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[Anonymous No.21429201]

Stop being dishonest.

[Anonymous No.21429218]

*hangs myself*

[Anonymous No.21429286]

Memes aside the dude was completely right about irony and insincerity. Only insecure faggots with something to hide live their lives as ironic trolls 24/7

[Anonymous No.21429351]

>>21429286
But I have lots to hide desu, it gives me an air of mystique that helps me bed womenfolk

[Anonymous No.21429371]

i want to but i'm not strong enough
help me david

[Anonymous No.21429375]

>>21429351
You're talking about being mysterious. I'm talking about this faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p0sr2BejUk

[Anonymous No.21429391]

>>21429351
bitches love the great deceiver, tis true. but who cares what they love?
>>21429201
we're only just stepping out of the veil of irony into the wondrous world of new sincerity. took a few decades, but worry not. with the advent of semi-competent writing AI models, a quaint and pastoral genre will emerge, that seeks to prove its genuine human nature by the expression of sentimentality. those who escape mawkishness will be hailed as the great geniuses of their age, and emotion shall reign as titan above logic, as it must, for reasoning is a more primordial form of thought. emotions are extrapolations of meta-reasoning that operate faster, more efficiently, and often more accurately than reasoning ever could, and those who are not outright sociopaths and psychopaths will sense its lack in the repellent schlock of the utilitarian robo-menace.

[Anonymous No.21429405]

>>21429201
i want to but i'm not strong enough

[Anonymous No.21429423]

>>21429201
Why? Life wants and lives on deception. I’ll read IJ one day though.

[Anonymous No.21429441]

>>21429423
the illusion is not the truth. damn the masquerade, and damn the lies that pose as life.

[Anonymous No.21429455]

>>21429441
What is truth?

[Anonymous No.21429494]

>>21429455
that which is bereft of facade. what remains in the light after facing flood of scrutiny. it is the anchor which ties us to our souls, and silences whispers, dispels the faineant perfumed haze that lingers over our eyes. it is the agonizing, the piercing, the thorough, the cruel, and the concrete. it is that which cannot be misplaced, and casts out the rotten heart of falsity, mimicry, and transposition. It is not merely what we know or think, but what *is*, it is so pervasive uttering its meaning seems tautological, for it is the foundation on which we build the empire of dust. Truth is the vehicle through which God shows us the light.

[Anonymous No.21429544]

animals are sincere
only man can be honest and insincere

[Anonymous No.21429583]

>>21429455
Jesus

[Anonymous No.21429594]

>>21429544
What about when animals trick other animals?

[Anonymous No.21429603]

>>21429594
i think he suggests that animals practice deception from a sincere perspective, like a moth's camouflage, it's what the moth *is*, to survive, that it attempts to hide, but its motivations aren't nefarious. mankind is able to twist honesty in such a way that revealing it can be inconsistent with the tone of truth itself. poisoning it with irony, or sarcasm, for example. i'm not sure i agree with the premise, but i think that's what they mean.

[Anonymous No.21429647]

>>21429603
Animals practice deception for self-interest, same as humans. Truth is life. Truth is only so useful as it serves the purpose of life. Plus what are you against all comedy in the name of “truth”? How ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.21429667]

>>21429594
ok, occasionally they can be insincere. but I meant that honesty/dishonesty only pertains to rational mind, which animals probably don't have, and sincerity/honesty shouldn't be conflated.

[Anonymous No.21429676]

>>21429375
More like, the fag in my pic.

[Anonymous No.21429680]

>>21429603
The end is ultimately the same, considering man's survival depends heavily on his relationship with his peers and society at large. Not being dishonest is a detriment in sociability, especially the smarter one is. Living honestly means fighting against the webs of corruption and decadence laid out before you by institutions that understands everyone else prefers to look the other way, or be sedated. Living honestly means being honest, most of all, with yourself; to look at the rotting figure on the mirror and acknowledge that's what you are, as well as the shadows that lie directly behind and lurk ever in wait. It means acknowledging you're not going to figure much out and trying is worthless. It means being unable to stick with your philosophy until one day you can't really take it anymore and hang yourself.

[Anonymous No.21429687]

>>21429667
What is the difference between sincerity and honesty?

[Anonymous No.21429697]

>>21429687
Sincerity is short term while honesty is long term.

[Anonymous No.21429934]

dfw + oatmeal = holy shit. Just found out about this amazing combo last night. His interviews and writings feel hella profound that way

[Anonymous No.21430032]

I'll be honest when the world becomes real

[Anonymous No.21430040]

>>21429934
Get out whore

[Anonymous No.21430055]

>>21429286
We live in the age of post-irony. Ironically if you aren't being post-ironic or ironic you're attempting to imitate sincerity since you cannot organically and sincerely be sincere if you are a young person living today. It just simply isn't in our zeitgeist.

[Anonymous No.21430070]

>>21430055
Either bait or demoralization. Begone, antichrist.

[Anonymous No.21430073]

>>21429375
That was really funny, you're dumb

[Anonymous No.21430102]

>>21429934
It always cracks me up in that interview when the camera man buts into the conversation with a double digit IQ comment and DFW does that whincing grimace.

[Anonymous No.21430117]

>>21430102
Bruh, what happened to my copypasta about that interview I wrote when I was really drunk and sad.

[Anonymous No.21430213]

>>21429494
The truth is that an AI made this post.

[Anonymous No.21430217]

>>21429201
Honestly, dis

[Anonymous No.21430221]

>>21429687
Sincerity is about how aligned your internal state is with the emotions/character you present to others. Honesty is more broadly about whether you try to mislead people about matters of fact.

[Anonymous No.21430248]

>>21429201
by that do you mean I should kill myself? well i got news for you buddy

[Anonymous No.21430413]

>>21430070
t. Ignatius

[Anonymous No.21430456]

>>21430055
Genius poster. I lurk so I'm glad people like you exist.

[Anonymous No.21430494]

>>21429201
ok ill try more, thanks for the reminder

[Anonymous No.21430497]

>>21430055
I'm not sure this is necessarily true, but there's most definitely a lot of truth in this. Real life plays out like picrel. Maybe that's wrong and a depressing cultural phenomenon, but I've found that whenever I really talk about real problems with friends it kind of starts getting boring and feels inauthentic in a way that I can't really explain while the real bonding and good memories come from when we call each other gay and give each other shit and stuff

[Anonymous No.21430499]

>>21430213
psh.
you wish.
merry christmas fgt.

[Anonymous No.21431141]

>>21430497
CMC CCM. basic rules of Australian cunt. Wraj2

[Anonymous No.21431163]

>>21430055
Sincere play

[Anonymous No.21431198]

>>21429286
DFW sucks because he is both pretentious and right

[Anonymous No.21431649]

>>21429201
What do I gain if I do that?

[Anonymous No.21431963]

>>21429934
Wait till you try dfw plus a big bowl of pho or ramen.

[Anonymous No.21432033]

>>21429391
Dickensbros, we are back

[Anonymous No.21432324]

name a greater pseud than dfw in recent times
i know you cant

[Anonymous No.21432347]

>>21432324
Jordan Peterson

[Anonymous No.21432354]

>>21432347
Nevermind, you're right.

[Anonymous No.21432651]

>>21429201
Would that be honest?

[Anonymous No.21432666]

>>21430055
>we live in the age of post iron-
Yes, the silicon age.

[Anonymous No.21432693]

>>21432324
He isn't really a pseud since he never claimed to be an intellectual or anything like that. Correct me if I'm wrong, he was an author grappling with mental illness.

[Anonymous No.21432881]

>>21432693
For someone mentally ill he sure had a lot to articulate. To me, a pseud doesn't strictly have to identify as an intellectual to qualify. Anyone that puts out something of no value or wraps what is of value in layers of bullshit and dances around it qualifies as a pseud.