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write what's on your mind
vinland edition
previous: >>21397975

>> No.21406155

Remember when there was a guy who always made this thread with dragon ball gifs?

>> No.21406164

>>21406155
No

>> No.21406176

>>21406114
Could I please have a link to the official /lit/ discord server?

>> No.21406184

Why do guys fuck with girls?
Say the most obscene shit to see if they believe it and then you are called naive and gullible but the truth is I just don’t lie and don’t expect others to either especially for the shits and giggles

>> No.21406208

>>21406114
was gonna post this in this other thread but it appears the jannies cleaned it up. good riddance

>>21406122
well considering how France is doing nowadays, one look at the world cup will tell you its just projection as of late.

>> No.21406213

>can’t stop biting my nails
>anxious over finals
>excited to have drunken sex tomorrow
>happy my ex is moving on but also a bit sad about it since I know a gulf will now open up between us and we will slowly become strangers
>afraid to have anal becuase I don’t want butt juice leaking out after he fills my ass with his cream
>going to try to have coffee and people watch in NYC since I’ve always wanted to do it and new experiences build confidence, amirite
>pumped to listen and sing and snap fingers to Christmas jingles in my car
>dying to cuddle with my furball
>don’t know how to be less of a judge mental prick
>want to ride him cowgirl but I have a soft tummy that jiggles so I just ask for him to serve me doggy
>want to be vocal sexually but I’m too much of an awkward cringeball to do sexy baby talk - what about you like seeing my lopsided boobs jiggle

>> No.21406347

planet earth is a passing phase. paradise in heaven lasts much longer.
not much matters here besides friends made and love interests.
and your spiritual journey of course.

>> No.21406350

>>21406347
Maybe the real heaven is the friends we made along the way.

>> No.21406357

>>21406114
at least wait until the bump limit you fag

>> No.21406364

>>21406213
do you have penis

>> No.21406387

In a LDR and it's combined with a lot of negative emotions at times. I'm not willing to let go and risk just being alone. Hopefully I'll be rewarded in the future, hopefully these doubts will be washed away when I get to be with her again. But as time goes on I miss her less and less and it's harder to remember why we enjoyed each other's company so much.

>> No.21406401

>>21406387
Can’t stay friends? Don’t stay just out of fear of being lonely. I wouldn’t want my bf saying this about me and I would encourage him to leave.
>>21406364
About the size of a bean

>> No.21406408

>>21406387
Poor lad, she's cheating on you and probably has been the whole time.
Discord relationships are so funny to me! :D

>> No.21406426

Imagine, if you will, a world in which police officers used weed grenades to calm and disperse crowds of would-be rioters.

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watching a television show with this rather stereotypical "chad" in it, i realized that i'm literally unable to walk in that slow, confident swagger that is one of the key characteristics of masculinity. never appearing to be in a hurry and taking up as much space as he likes, effortlessly parting the throng of inferiors as he strides on. i, on the other hand, only move to get from A to B as quickly as possible without breaking into a jog. "taking a stroll" is utterly foreign to me. my gait is at all times that of an unsuccessful rapist scampering away from the crime scene

>> No.21406438

>>21406401
>Can’t stay friends?
Not an option.
>Don’t stay just out of fear of being lonely
It's not simply that, but it's hard imagining having the same chemistry again.
>>21406408
Bitter cuckposter. No way I'd get involved with someone over discord lol.

>> No.21406444

>>21406401
>About the size of a bean
i'll take it

>> No.21406457

>>21406438
You could be having that relationship over zoom for all I care.
She's still definitely cheating on your boring ass, you really think you're that entertaining?
She has a myriad of guys in her dms that are 10x more exciting than you.
Talk a girl in person you loser.

>> No.21406474
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>>21406430
Whites use flattery to try and get a liking out of you. Asians employ subservience which works especially well on whites. Making a white man feel like he is your senior will make him predisposed toward liking you. This technique is often used by Asians and Mexicans.

>> No.21406489

>>21406114
A couple years ago a couple of my professors were ecstatic with my literary work and asked me to publish them, I got embarrassed and didn't. After that year, I dropped out of college and started working. I make a lot of money now but hate it.
I started writing again in private, but don't know if I should go back to school for it or just pursue it as a hobby.

>> No.21406492

>>21406489
Write as a hobby and have your works published by your brother after you die.

>> No.21406510

>>21406474
ok, cool. that's a load off my mind. i still dart around like raskolnikov though

>> No.21406735

>>21406114
the worst thing about having a perpetually paranoid, cynical view of the world is being constantly proven right. why cant i be wrong even once?

>> No.21406749

>>21406735
That's because everything will either be a nothingburger(doesn't prove you right but doesn't prove you wrong YET) or bad(proves you right). You cannot be proven wrong because good is not proof bad won't happen and bad is guaranteed to happen eventually.

>> No.21406770

>>21406749
give me one (1) material reason to hope for the future

>> No.21406780

Is 24 old? I feel old.

>> No.21406793

>>21406770
Delicious burger. Tasty soda. Cool book. If you're homeless, nice breeze. Cool view. Shanked and wnd up in a comfy hospital bed with tasty burger and soda. If dying, you get to look forward to respite.

>> No.21406818

>>21406780
Me too, I’m 24 and I feel ancient.

>> No.21406941

>>21406770
Because maybe, just one day, you'll stop being such a giant faggot

>> No.21407029

>>21406184
It goes both ways. I know what you mean though both sexes have done that to me in the past.

>> No.21407064

>>21406114
I would rather have a statist technocracy controlling things than corporate marketing/advertising; moreover, there is a fallacy whereby we are conditioned to believe that crushing misguided idealism is inexplicably worse than allowing for the natural evolution of history when the natural evolution of history is simply a code-word for the maintenance of the status quo. The entirety of human history is characterized by the nigh absolute subjugation of mankind (those divorced from the offices of power) to the elite (those that occupy positions of power or, in the modern case, influence them through extra-governmental means), and the progression of history indicates that the commoner's sense of freedom is, in fact, flattered most readily by the will to power operating under a democratic disguise: the more pervasive the slavery, the freer man believes himself to be.

If the choice is between a democratically elected politician and single-party rule, the latter is unironically the lesser of two evils. For the commoner, freedom is the freedom to masturbate yourself into psychosis and gorge yourself into terminal obesity; the societal structures that were conducive to virtue cultivation were systematically dismantled following WW1. The societies that we live in now are characterized by "the worst kind of peace" but worse because we don't have a monolithic "evil" figure to fight again: we don't have hope.

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>>21406114
Is it a sensible idea to use Tinder to find someone to go to the movies with? I want to see The Whale this week but have zero friends or social connections (I'm doing online school and the few people I knew from college already graduated) and I really don't like going alone. Been really lonely lately to the point where I'm pretty constantly unhappy and miserable. The only concern I have is possibly being recognized by someone from my old high school. I'm not sure if they'd recognize me but I plan to use my middle name for a profile.

>> No.21407083

>>21406387
What kind of negative emotions, related to the gf or not? Also how long have you two been apart? I am also in a LDR

>> No.21407162

>>21407065
Have you ever gone to the movies alone? I saw The Lighthouse alone, it was the first and only time I've ever been to the movies by myself. Kinda sad because it was also the last movie I saw at the theater 1 block from my apartment (and it had $5 tickets for uni students holy fuck it was the god tier location) before it closed due to covid, and eventually for good. It's a different experience though. I'd strongly recommend everyone go to the movies solo at least once in their lives.

I do think your plan to use Tinder isn't a bad one.

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>>21407065
>Have you ever gone to the movies alone?
Nope, but that's because I rarely ever go to the theater. Last time I did was a year ago with a classmate but she's virtually ghosted me.
The problem is that I'm always alone and rarely go out. I go to church alone, I eat out alone, and I rarely ever go outside due to all my classes being online for the past year. I haven't even done anything for my birthday these past 3 years. Nobody ever calls or texts me personally either. The whole thing is taking a massive toll on me.

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>>21407162
>Have you ever gone to the movies alone?
Nope, but that's because I rarely ever go to the theater. Last time I did was a year ago with a classmate but she's virtually ghosted me.
The problem is that I'm always alone and rarely go out. I go to church alone, I eat out alone, and I rarely ever go outside due to all my classes being online for the past year. I haven't even done anything for my birthday these past 3 years. Nobody ever calls or texts me personally either. The whole thing is taking a massive toll on me.

>> No.21407333

>>21406780
No

>> No.21407543

Handing her a slip of paper that I would go on to set puerile crusting in, he turns around to head out and smear his nearest grass salesman with translucent neon Joker radioactive materials. With psycho bitch face, I, Allison, say 'I love fucking druggies. I have the burden of life, and it's a pain. Things always seem to finalize like I have no opportunity to matter and can't be who I really am. Things are like a big fuck you Allison, all over the place. I and me, we're not. I get too cocky,' I ask him begrudgingly in a slipping death grip, 'Have I been naughty?'
'I need your fucking face in the hills,' he says, 'those with eyes.' I visualize this now.
He beseeches, with scornful smirk, 'What do you have in mind?'
Finding that he and I are in a pool waking up out of a virtual simulation when a conjuration disarms us in its cyber domain, they incarnate as awake beings to the fact they are in a world filled with streaming ethereal minds embedded in spring mines.
He whispers drearily, darkly, eternally, that he wants to cast my wish to Malbolge.
As I desperately yelp, in marry-go-round clock-wise decompression creakily, like a relic'd and musky shame-y yucky, 'I sucked two cocks in my life- I'm still pretty much a virgin! One guy put his penis up to my ass and didn't even fuck my butthole! I must be a dirty little secret. Unless I had amnesia! He said something and we were done. Or I have too large a dildo stretching it at all times so I can't feel anything!' As we swing down hard with full force the locomotive ship's bridge we find ourselves in the air, tightly swerving swiftly down through the mists evermore.
He says it's okay to be too tight, but he has doubts about getting hard enough for a whole, as she shoves his dirty antic cock up my furnace. 'I don't think he has. But I wasn't really getting him that erect. I could've been so much more. The hormones hadn't taken much effect during this time,' I, spilling my scene. The dog barks greedily in the fortunes aft, dominion of Lucifer eating the pie crust that never was.
I wrote this GARBAGE and he blocked me. w/e.

>> No.21407556

>>21407543
Everyone knows you're a tranny. Touch grass and get help; NOW.

>> No.21407576

>>21407556
Everyone knows, so
So shut the fuck up.

>> No.21407586

>>21407576
Based reaction. Now touch the grass and get help. NOW

>> No.21407607

>>21406770
>>21406735
Embrace the Honk Pill. The pandemic was man-made, the US is 30 Trillion in debt, 81 million "people" voted for Brandon. Just Honk it up.

>> No.21407608

>>21407586
Ok.

>> No.21407620
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I LOVE THE MUSKY SMELL OF COCK AND BALLS SO MUCH AHHHHHHH

WHY DOES IT SMELL SO GOOD

>> No.21407646

Is it weird for father and daughter to go on vacation together?
For context my parents were separated

>> No.21407651

>>21407646
Not even a little bit, unless you're planning to have sex with her.

>> No.21407674

>>21406114
How am I gonna break up with this girl when I want her so bad.
I literally started crying today while making dinner thinking about how I'm gonna start easing her into this before I break up with her in a week and then folded when she started sending me cute messages over Telegram

>> No.21407695

>>21407651
ok :) so I’m just worrying for no reason

>> No.21407733

>>21407674
You want her and want to break up?

>> No.21407768

>>21407733
Nta but I try to make people dislike me before I ghost em. Prob similar.

>> No.21407780

>>21407646
I dont understand the context

>> No.21407790

>>21407768
extra effort nothing

>> No.21407802

>>21407790
What does that mean

>> No.21407808

Im so angry. Angry about things.

>> No.21407828

>>21407733
It's complicated my dude. We can't be together but I want her more than I've ever wanted anyone in my life.
>>21407768
I've never ghosted anyone. Unless they're being really nasty and abusive, it's just so rude. Even if I've only gone on one date with a girl, I still give her that closure.

>> No.21407848

>>21407733
>>21407828
I know she's in love with me and that we'll never be able to be together and I want to end it before we both become too invested. I know that the longer things go on, the more it'll hurt her down the road.
I know I probably sound like a total fag, but this is literally the first time I've ever been in love.

>> No.21407854

>>21406114
i am binge drinking lemon extract i purchased with my food stamp card

>> No.21407885

>>21407808
What makes you angry the most?

>> No.21407900
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>>21407885
That Hitler didn't win WWII

>> No.21407910

>>21407828
>>21407848
I think that's pretty similar, although I never get to know someone long enough for it to matter because I just ghost them first.
Poor guy, although it hurts you're still probably doing the right thing if you'd resort to that kind of tactic.

>> No.21407986

>>21406114

I'm looking forward to moving to Japan next month (or so) because I've missed the women. I last visited a few years ago, before I was even 20, and there I learned how much I love these women and the drama of their lives. Something special to watch their mouths move. I love that I know them by sight - these days I can usually guess which country they come from and often their city or region by observing their presentation. If you knew what to look for you can recognize them by gait. It's yellow fever with an extremely high level of connoisseurship.

People love to smear their disgusting myopic perspectives on East Asian women across every board on this site, across every site really, about women in general really, so its funny how few of these posters (you) have not even once fucked an Oriental girl. Really hilarious.

Over the past 12 months in London, I hooked up with (fucked) more than 25 of these girls. I met them at the museum, the gig, the art exhibition, the street, etc., and after a short chat we exchange numbers, later leading to a date, a first kiss, a few more drinks, etc. Many become tristes, but more become good friends, girls who will invite me out for some fulfilling play, pay for drinks, get me backstage, drag me to parties where I can meet more such women.

I just wrote this to articulate publicly my sunshine-joy reaction to such miserable posts like

>"if i could get a korean gf i could die happy"
>"my dream girl"
>"i want a japanese to suck me like that"

It's a sinister emotion, but I'm tangled up with these "dream girls" and I remember these posts, I can never suppress the smile that comes. It's not like I care that much, I don't know these dogs - but the smile comes anyway, like primal muscular twitch.

>> No.21408003

I love the smell of ass

>> No.21408005

>>21406818
I turn 51 in 13 years and I still shitpoast here. I have no family and have given up on dating. I don’t live at home and I make decent money.

>> No.21408062

>>21406387
>I'm not willing to let go and risk just being alone
ahhh i know the feel, fear of loneliness can be so crippling... i think its important to cultivate some joy and comfort in solitude. or at least indifference to solitude, so that you can make descisions without being clouded by fear of being alone.
'
lately the fear of loneliness has been stirring heaps of confusion, vacillation, and difficulties in my life too... i thought this woman was wrong for me, so i cut off contact with her, but then like 2 weeks later i start stressing out thinking i need love and hit her up again. And now she seems to have lost interest, so i'm just left feeing uncomfortably glued to facebook.

>> No.21408069

Realistically how can I become an English professor doing the least amount of work possible

>> No.21408113

>>21408005
I would love to hang out with you irl

>> No.21408118

>>21408113
i would love to plow your ass irl

>> No.21408120

>>21408113
>>21408118
I was just gonna tell him not to do it because he's probably gonna get his bussy raped.

>> No.21408124

>>21408118
>>21408120
I am not a tranny or a man. I've been on here for 17 years, since I was in high school.

>> No.21408127

>>21408124
So who's doing the ass plowing? Were you going to plow anon? Wtf now I'm confused

>> No.21408139

>>21408124
>tranny or a man
so you're a fucking woman? disgusting

>> No.21408143

>>21408124
ewww, an after wall woman.

>> No.21408147

>>21408139
>>21408143
lmao
all anon wanted was a bussy
whad a plodd dwisd :D

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>>21408139
There are heaps in this thread
>>21408143
Doesn't even matter, randoms think I look 18 :^)
>>21408147
:DDDD

>> No.21408165

>>21408159
>i'm unwittingly talking to women 24/7
pls say it aint so

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>>21408159
This is probably the worst place on the earth for a woman. The guys who want to interact with you are psychotic and will make your life fucking hell, and the somewhat normal guys are either so cynical and jaded they can't form human relationships any more or unironic flaming homos on the prowl to buss or get bussied.
Why do you even come here?

>> No.21408201

>>21408159
>randoms think I look 18 :^)
because they want your pussy. lying is just a means to an end.

>> No.21408341

It's time of the year for artists to advertise their neat-but-honestly-overpriced works in category of personalized gifts. One did stand out, a ceramic round container, about the size of a mug, called keeper of beautiful memories. It's basically a combination of piggy bank and time capsule, instead of money you put in little papers with date and something nice written down, and then at the end of the year you open it to read everything.
One could easily do it with a regular piggy bank, and unlike with journals you don't feel pressured to write a lot, or get to cringe at your writing until the year is over.

>> No.21408363

>>21408176
It doesn't matter that much ultimately. I've met tons of people from the site irl and 2/10 were spastics. Rest are fine.
>>21408201
Yeah the 21 year old girl serving me at the shops was wanting my pussy. You have been tainted by the internet.

>> No.21408374

"Lovecraftian" has to be the most abused term by critics.

>> No.21408380

My eyes have been bloodshot for so fucking long. I just want white eyes again. I should probably sleep more and smoke less weed and drink less caffeine.

>> No.21408396

Having a gf is overrated man. I just want to play video games and read evola. What's the point of all the sex in the world if it's sterile

>> No.21408403

>>21408396
The point is to make babies dumbass

>> No.21408406

>>21408374
"Orwellian" and "tour de force" want to have a word with you

>> No.21408440

Please refrain from making normie muh dick posts when in my holy digital presence. There is no flesh on the internet. No dicks and no pussy, just disembodied spirits manipulating pixels.
If your concerns are worldly then go to the world instead of hanging out with spirits. This is a sacred space meant for higher pursuits like exercising the ancient art of racism.

>> No.21408447

>>21408403
I'd rather play video games
>>21408440
my racism is sexual by nature

>> No.21408588

Finally got covid, I was able to avoid this shit for years through my NEET lifestyle but now it got me.

>> No.21408634

i am better. But im no less confused about what i want. In an abstract, vaguely perceptible way, the belief that i can do anything is blooming within me. I have nothing to show for this audacious claim. I could sink back into doubt. Why am i feeling better? Where is the stress, the anxiety, the sadness, the restlessness born of inaction, the grief that comes with reciting my regrets, my failures, etc.
Could it be that i am better? This isn’t mania. That much i know. And it seems as though i have accepted (maybe finally) my past failures and am moving past them. The thing is, in place of longings unfulfilled, the painful desires that i craved but could not manage to achieve due to my learned helplessness, an emptiness now sits. It seems all my past desires were of no concrete nature. They were merely escapist scenarios, born out of frustration and deep dissatisfaction with my then place in the world, not true ambition. Well then, what is my ambition. I, despite the current placidity, naturally gravitate to the thought. “greatness. I want to be exceptional and I want to be envied and I want to be perceived and remembered”. Maybe this desire is an old reflex. I may have made peace with past failure but it seems that i have yet to accept how ordinary and unspecial i seem to be.
Like a gangrenous limb that finally fell out, the last 6 years and their unceremonious finality have sloughed away leaving a rot in my soup that i may have to deal with for the rest of my life.

>> No.21408639

>>21408634
relatable

>> No.21408642

I hate having large breasts. I'm tired of being a woman.

>> No.21408652

I have never felt guilt, only embarrassment at failure. I wonder if I'm morally deficient.
>>21408642
please post your fat milkers

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Just saw a webm of some argentinian falling and bending his knee the wrong way
Why do joint injuries make me cringe so hard? Theyre worse than most gore.

>> No.21408811

>>21408642
I know, Im tired of having a big dick.

>> No.21408866

Should I just get a PhD? I'm too old to start one in my mind, but I already work at a University. It seems like the only obvious thing to do.

>> No.21408871

>>21408866
How old are you?

>> No.21408930

Testing my fathers patience in conversation. He's not receptive to my half thought out religious theories. Better to relay information at autismal level. I can make that compelling enough.

>> No.21408937

>>21406387
>In a LDR
You are, but she's not.
>not willing to let go and risk just being alone. Hopefully I'll be rewarded
Slave mentality. I'd try to save you from yourself but honestly you deserve it.

>> No.21408948

>>21406213
Show tits whore

>> No.21409246 [DELETED] 

All I want for Christmas is non official gf

>> No.21409255

All I want for Christmas is a gf but without her officially being my gf.

>> No.21409265

what's on your mind

>> No.21409292

>>21408396
Sex is kinda meh, but cuddling and kissing and gazing into one another's eyes as she cracks an uncontrollable grin and you pull her in closer and whisper into her ear about how much you love her?
Literally everything else is cope.

>> No.21409297

Do you ever look at the path you're on and think it's one of the worst possible paths you could've ended up on?

>> No.21409298

Books to cope with the deep, chronic spiritual loneliness of not having a significant other.

>> No.21409299

>>21409265
sadness
what about you?

>> No.21409362

>>21406114
I wonder how other people would have coped with going bald in high school. This has been on my mind for quite a while, and I can't help but think there is a book in here somewhere.

>> No.21409385

Bros, my naked ivory-white body floats above a bubbling bronze bucket of lava, and only the frantic flapping of my butterfly wings saves my elven soul from premature rebirth.

>> No.21409552

>>21409297
i don't think that i would've been much happier on any other path

>> No.21409679

>>21409297
Oh yeah, all the time

>> No.21409689

>>21407885
Just all these haunting regrets. I feel like everytime I was faced with a major decision, I made the wrong decision. And I'm angry that these aren't normal decisions people make, but ones imposed on me by circumstance. >>21407900
The real redpill is that Germany should have won WW1.

>> No.21409703

I gotta start a new wagie job this week but I have this nasty, haunting cold. My sinuses are pressurized, I have a headache, I feel weak and tired. Ugh.

>> No.21409710

>>21406114
I do not understand her, year later. Nothing. Can't even tell if she likes me, dislikes me or is just indifferent.

>> No.21409713

>>21408642
MILK TRUCK HAS ARRIVED

>> No.21409715

Has anyone else experienced periods of incredible inspiration where thoughts, memories, and perceptions seem to come together seemingly automatically, resulting in the exploration of narratives, tangents, and angles in an effortless and obsessive creative flow, culminating in a singular, focused, perfected work?

I live for that shit.

>> No.21409743

>>21408642
I know that feel. *hugs*
Hang in there wasn’t supposed to be a pun…

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>>21408642
>>21409743
>you are now imagining these two slags smothering you with their jumbo tits at the same time
>you are now imagining reaching for your wallet sheepishly to pay them for their time
>you are now imagining them saying "anon you thought we wanted money? we just thought you were really cool"
>you are now imagining saying "r-really"
>you are now imagining them saying "no" and smothering you to death with their tits

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>>21409767
I hate you Blowjack posters so much.

>> No.21409790
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The more i read about National-Socialism and Fascism, the more convinced I become that such a means of government would be greatly rewarding and a far better way to live.

Ethno-Cultural Collectivism, not Economic Collectivism, is the key aspect that European decedent nations are missing. When they finally embrace it and use force against those who are not of the people, we will finally know another Golden Age.

>> No.21409800

>>21409790
Even Franco's strain of fascism imploded. It scales much worse than variants of socialism / communism.

Only Romans were based enough to run it for centuries.

>> No.21409817

>>21409790
Try reading Christopher Lasch's Revolt of the Elites now, it will probably convert you to nationalist classical republicanism which is a gentler ride into fascism town. From there read Sternhell's books.

You only need three ingredients to make 90% of normal decent people support fascism:
>1) Fascism isn't totalitarian, this is a meme. Totalitarian systems are something completely different.
>2) "Spontaneously moral liberal individualism, we just need to get more people VOTING!!" is just as much a myth as the fascist "moral state, irresponsible individualism has limits," so you have to pick your political myth poison either way (and the way we currently have is the individualist myth, so how bad can it be to try the other way)
>3) Liberal individualism is or has its own form of totalitarianism anyway, totalitarian ANTI-moralism, anti-statism, and this has been weaponized by even more totalitarian world government fags who don't believe in individualism either, so again, pick your political myth - at least fascism lets you fight back against the world government fags

>> No.21409824

>>21409785
Why dont you use your trip anymore

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>>21409824
Just passing through

>> No.21409839

>>21409833
Ah well, until next time

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>>21409800
No system can survive the entire world uniting against it. Fascism, specifically National-Socialism, may be the only scalable and sustainable means of organizing society.

>>21409817
I am already there, anon. I have progressed through the rough ride that was leaving the Liberal Democratic system to find a better way that can preserve what I love and strive for while attacking and destroying that which threatens it.

As for your recommendations of Sternhell, I think not, I have no interest in how the system came to find its genesis least of all from somebody who may of been one of the victims of the system they research. Even were I not a firm anti-semite I still would not trust such a person to be biased and impartial, anymore than I would a black about slavery.

>> No.21409846

>>21409843
>specifically National-Socialism, may be the only scalable and sustainable means of organizing society.
This is just historically ignorant, that is, they were both historical phenomena tied to a space-time in middle-europe and against the-then communism.

None of that shit even worked or is coming back. Only way out is through.

>> No.21409850

>>21409843
Sternhell is great, Armin Mohler loved his work. You should read Vu de droite by Benoist, it will change your thinking on how to appropriate things from sources that are not sympathetic in themselves to your cause. That's a far greater power than just reading things in your own echo chamber.

>> No.21409879

>>21409843
Creativity is the only scalable and sustainable means of organizing society.

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>>21409846
>This is just historically ignorant, that is, they were both historical phenomena tied to a space-time in middle-europe and against the-then communism.

We have had this conversation before, this is true of every way of organizing society they are all products of the historical phenomenon that allowed it to arise, but once it is discovered it can be replicated anywhere with the correct means of manipulating society. But what is more we have an increasing repetition of what allowed National-Socialism to gain support happening in society. What was Communism then is now Global-Homogeneity.

I can not have this debate with you a fourth time.

>>21409850
No thank you. There are far better and more meaningful writers to read, though I won't deny many overlap with the Conservative Revolution which Mohler appears to been part of. It may be near sighted, it may be just plain racism on my part, but I will never be able to trust the word of a jew in anything but their thoughts towards Israel.

>> No.21409888

> take a university job and plan to use it to get a graduate degree
> 4 years later and not even a single course completed

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>>21409879
wat

>> No.21409894

>>21409883
anon for christ sake those are cod stats
nazi germany got fucking wiped off the face of this earth
they have a holocaust museum in middle of berlin
they have us troops still occupying them

>> No.21409897

>>21409817
>Fascism isn't totalitarian, this is a meme. Totalitarian systems are something completely different.
Nigga what, I read Yokey's Imperium where he explicitly defines the Total State and how it's a function of fascism

>> No.21409899

Totalitarian state just means the head chief guy is the personification of law and state.

>> No.21409944

>>21409899
No that's just monarchy. Totalitarianism is about how the state and party is integrated into everything the individual does.

>> No.21409953

>>21409894
Yeah sure, almost every single Great Power teamed up to take Germany down. They succeeded at a massive loss of human life, the dissolution of their empires, complete financial or military cuckoldry to the USA or USSR, and then the gridlocking of the whole world in the Cold War. And for what? What is Britain or France or Russia or America today? Bunch of mongrelized shit holes. WW2 was a self immolation, and now we have to deal with the ascendancy of a Bug People world order.

>> No.21409955

>>21409894
Why would that preclude it from happening again?

>>21409899
No, it is not. That is not what the word means, regardless of how you may of convinced yourself of it. Totalitarian means the state fully encompasses all of society, there is nothing permitted outside of the State. The State being the ultimate expression of the people that inhabit the land which the State governs.

>>21409897
That is on my list. Though the above is the definition of Giovanni Gentile, the Doctrine of Fascism which he wrote.

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21409962

though my heart stop beating
my spirt wanders the world weary
for the love that never happend
and the life never lived

in this other world of dust
in this land i now call home
i wait for you
so that one day i may rest

there is no night here
there is no day
just memories
slowly fading away

>> No.21409961

>>21409955
Well that doesnt make sense to me either. The Party begetting the State and organizing all its constituent pieces is the Total State.

>> No.21409963

>>21409955
>That is not what the word means, regardless of how you may of convinced yourself of it.

I was quoting the jurists of NSDAP but ok you do you

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>>21409961
That may be a definition Yockey uses, but I have not read him. He was a fan of Spengler, who had unique ideas of his own and often changed definitions from commonly excepted ones. Civilization for example was one Spengler added a negative further meaning to, so I am reluctant to take Yockey 's definition as legitimate in a broader sense, regardless of if I agree with him or not. Fun fact, I do for the most part.

I have read Schmitt, Gentile and others who share what I mentioned above and with whom I agree with far more than Yockey.

>>21409963
I don't think you were, it may be more accurate to say you speed read a wikipedia page and cobbled together a rough hypothesis of what you think it says. As said, I've read some Schmitt, which I am assuming is who you refer to when you say NSDAP Jurist, and I lifted his definition straight from On Dictatorships. That is not to say what you say is also agreeable to him, that the source of all law comes from a singlular source, that Führerprinzip is not important.

If I'm wrong, I would gladly rescind what I have said but I don't think I am in this specific case.

>> No.21410043

>>21410023
I know Yokey cites Schmitt for his definition. The friend-enemy distinction divides a country and so the State has to "totalize" all aspects of life to prevent that divide.

>> No.21410070

>>21409897
The total state isn't totalitarian. Schmitt's development of the idea has nothing to do with total regulation of life. The total is the POTENTIALLY total. Everything in the society is teleologically oriented toward the society's good, and it can always potentially be actualized in this light, just like in Schmitt's friend-enemy distinction society generally goes along as normal but can always be activated by the state of emergency. This has little to do with totalitarianism in the sense of the administrative, regulative, biopolitical state.

Ezra Pound:
>[N]ote that Mussolini is NOT a fanatical statalist wanting the state to blow the citizen’s nose and monkey with the individual’s diet. IF, when and whenever the individual or the industry can and will attend to its own business, the fascist state WANTS the industry and the individual to DO it, and it is only in case of sheer idiocy, incapacity or simple greed and dog-in-the-mangerness that the state intervenes to protect the unorganized PEOPLE; public; you me and the other fellow.

>The rest is political “machinery,” bureaucracy, flummydiddle. Jefferson, Mussolini, Lenin, all hated or hate it. Lenin wanted to get rid of it: “All this is political machinery, want to get rid of it,” as Stef reported Lenin’s opinion in 1918. Jefferson started to clean up the social flummydiddle, etiquette, precedence, etc.

>As far as financial morals are concerned, I should say that from being a country where practically everything and anything was for sale, Mussolini has in ten years transformed it into a country where it would even be dangerous to try to buy out the government. In other countries they excuse inexplicable perfidies by saying “These men are personally honest.” I am now quoting an admiral : “All I know is that all these men are my personal friends and I assure you that they are personally honest.” The implication being that they play the super-crooks’ game because they are stupid and hoodwinked.

>Rephrase Jefferson’s saying: “The best place for a nation’s reserve of credit is in as many individual pockets as possible.”

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>>21410043
Cites it how? As an inspiration to build upon or something to contrast against? The Friend-Enemy distinction in Concept of the Political is what the state ultimately has power to do, you have put the cart before the horse here. The friend-enemy distinction is one of the ultimate means by which political power is exercised by the State, which is an expression of the singular people whom occupy the land we call a nation. I am not following your thinking here, I'm also looking through Yockey and can find nothing in support of what you are saying.

>> No.21410085

>>21410084
Huh?

>> No.21410093

>>21410070
>The total state isn't totalitarian
I figured the common usage of the term totalitarian was divorced from its orginal meaning which just meant The Total State. I get that it doesnt mean government micromanaging personal affairs, but was more a type of corporatism where the state integrates different aspects of society to operate holistically

>> No.21410100

>>21410084
What you just said is basically verbatim what Yokey cites. I'm not sure where we're disagreeing

>> No.21410110

>>21410093
You could even have extreme corporatism to the point of basically libertarianism within a fascist framework if the culture seriously thinks that non-intervention and self-reliance are the best possible goals. But I think it's important to avoid terms like totalitarian that make people who could potentially see value in fascism from having knee-jerk reactions.

Nobody likes colloquial totalitarianism, everybody has a gut reaction of hostility to any state claiming to be total in the biopolitical sense, except maybe some air-head kept woman from San Francisco who thinks the government should print more AIDS needles for the temporarilly dis-homed. And a lot of people think that fascism was basically 1984 style regimentation of every aspect of life. This creates a false dichotomy in the mind of the sympathetic/potential fascist between 1984 and "well at least it's not 1984" status quo.

>> No.21410122

>>21410110
Yeah I know the rhetorical use of the term is loaded down with all kinds of baggage, but I figured since we're both fascists we could just use the word for its original meaning.

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>>21410085
I'll try to make it clearer.

>I know Yokey cites Schmitt for his definition
Cites it how? As an inspiration to build upon or something to contrast against?

>The friend-enemy distinction divides a country and so the State has to "totalize" all aspects of life to prevent that divide.
The State can have no divide, if it is not the singular expression of a singular group it. It is not meant to be a personal friend/foe distinction but a broader, societal one.

>>21410100
The State can not be a State as Schmitt suggests if it the friend/foe distinction is being used internally or at the point of a civil-war as this would completely undermine the legitimacy (an important concept for Schmitt) of the State itself. As a multi-group State can not exist in the same manner as a singular-group State.

What I am disagreeing on here is the idea that the friend/foe distinction is needed to establish a State, it comes after and is the means by which the state justifies aggression and ultimately war.

>> No.21410165

>>21410132
>What I am disagreeing on here is the idea that the friend/foe distinction is needed to establish a State
You've misunderstood me. I meant to say that to Yokey a real, true nation is headed by a state, and a state must be total as a necessary condition to be called a state. The friend-enemy distinction is what divides a country, and in order for this to be mitigated, a total state must be established to truly create a nation.

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>>21410165
>The friend-enemy distinction is what divides a country
This is the part I have issue with. The Friend-Foe Distinction is the means by which an existing state justifies actions. It is not a means to sort and divide an existing society. That is perilously close to a Commissary Dictatorship, one in which is set up to achieve a specific purpose.

>> No.21410189

>>21410182
Forgot to add, if a State is divided, it ceases to be a State. The idea of a state being 'true' is a meaningless term but you mention it several times. What does this mean?

>> No.21410194

>/lit/ - fascism

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>>21410194
>stop discussing the wrong ideas

>> No.21410215

>>21406114
I'm the embodiment of North America. My parents and grandparents are a mix of Anglo-Saxon/Germanic, French Canadian, Native American, and Mexican.

>> No.21410232

>>21406770
nothing new under the sun, worse has occurred in the past and will occur long after your lifetime

>> No.21410235

>>21410194
Give it a break, we have a shit load of Marxists here all the time. At least we're actually discussing literature relevant to the topic

>> No.21410236

Hitler more like SHITler lmao

>> No.21410241

>>21410215
I too am an atomized, deracinated, uncultured, comercial mutt

>> No.21410248

>>21410182
>>21410189
Lemme reread the book. It's been 3 or 4 years

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>>21410248
I do not profess to be an expert at all and I fully admit I may be in the wrong here too.

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>>21406770
Because life's a never ending wheel. The sun may be setting but it will rise again. Even if you can't fix the world you can always try your best to carry the light into the future.

>> No.21410300

>>21410241
I'm jealous of homogenized cultures as they can focus all attention on one language and one culture. I strongly believe in racial memory, so I've been learning about each of those groups and their languages that my family belong to, which is difficult since they conflict with each other in certain values.

>> No.21410302

I have been reading books for twenty years and yet I am an uneducated person. I have been studying history and philosophy for five years and the world is every bit the mystery it was before.

>> No.21410369

>>21410275
So there's two "Laws" at work here. The Law of Totality abd the Law of Sovereignty.
The Law of Totality is just descriptive. It encompasses all "organisms" the "Culture-State" being one such organism. All entities in a Culture State which are potentially political are subject of the Total State. If these political entities are in a state of enmity, the Organism is sick. The sickness is either conquered or the Organism faces death.
The Law of Sovereignty is the entity which decides political decisions. Sickness is when there is dueling Sovereignties. When there is meaningful challenge in this way, the Culture State is on the brink of Civil War.
These are descriptive Laws and describe every existing state.
Then you get the Totality of Organization. This is the manifestation of political organization and is relative to the time.
When there is a healthy Total State, internally there is no politics, because politics is defined by the ability to determine enmity and make war. This is in contrast to the Pluralistic State, which you see attempted in such places as England or America (as described by Spengler) and is the manifestation of such sickness.

>> No.21410373

>>21410302
That means you're really smart or really dumb but introspective.

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All the women I work with tell me to treat the customers like shit because they don't believe in anything and want to see me treat people like shit
well I believe IN GOOD SERVICE MOTHERFUCKER

>> No.21410417

I wanna be the world's best friend and hold everyone's hand.

>> No.21410424

>>21410417
hold

>> No.21410425

>>21410300
I honestly don't know how to feel. It's like I'm in a constant state of alienation, but I've grown comfortable in that condition. It defines me. I wouldnt know how to behave in a real culture.
To me this is very tangible. I'm a first generstion american. All my family still lives in Europe, but I grew up away from all them. I was raised in a "diverse" major metropolitan area. Given that I'm white, the only real culture I could grasp was that of radical individualism. Its so surreal living around ethnic enclaves, mingling with them but never being a part of any.
I went back to Europe a few years ago to meet my family. I did get a sense of that racial memory, where it felt like the lityle village was a place I'd seen in my dreams. But I'm not one of them and I never could be. I'm much too atomized and much too urban. Coming back to the city and being invisible, a face in the crowd, a lone Wolf, a Jünger style Anarch was very comforting. Describing that feeling to my aunt evoked envy from her because she hates living in a small rural village where everyone knows your every move. But then again,she was from a big city and is only my aunt by marriage so she probably had a similar upbringing.
I've tried to replace a sense of ethnic belonging with spiritual belonging by joining a church. Spiritual belonging is real and valid, and a higher reality, but the displacement in worldly terms still disrupts my proper integration spiritually.

>> No.21410470

>>21410394
>I believe IN GOOD SERVICE
Good god, why? Most customers absolutely deserve to be treated like shit

>> No.21410477

>>21410470
Personal integrity

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>>21410425
Read Mein Kampf and similar literature. What you are feeling is the natural reaction from being cut off from your ethnic group. What is needed is ethno-cultural collectivism, the very thing that Peterstein has rejected. You can not maintain culture alone, it takes a group, you need to establish an ethno-group and associate based on that very fact.

>> No.21410522

What broken vase is this? What disfigured
pottery? Whose porcelain visage did
once gleam, which now I sweep unto the drought?

>> No.21410544

cant sleep but cant be bothered to get ot of bed

>> No.21410547

>>21409892
A civilization in creative stagnation, that doesn't actively pursue new ideas and encourage each and every member of it's society to do so, is a civilization that will inevitably crumble due to inability to solve it's ever-changing problems. No cultural evolution, and the result is devolution.
This is the root of the issues behind modern global human civilization.

>> No.21410546

>>21410498
Yeah bro I know. I got into White Nationalism back in 2017. Didnt really solve any of my problems. In hindsight it felt more like me raging against a system that made me feel so alienated. Which isn't bad desu, but after the initial razing of thr atomizing values I head nothing left to reconstruct myself.
In a way it was another form of alienation. I had to leave behind a tangible ethnic legacy to which I still have real ties to in order to join some ill defined "White American" group. After travelling Europe I learned just how meaningless "white" is. And of course, not to mention that I've literally not ever once in my life lived in a white community. I'm not from Middle America. So much of what Middle America does is alien to me. I probably have more cultural understanding of the Chinese or Armenians or Mexicans than White Americans in Indiana or Ohio.
It's over for me anon. I never had a chance. I'll always just be a tumbleweed, blowing through different cultures, absorbing whatever they have to offer and then tumbling off again.

>> No.21410554

Feel like becoming racist wont really slove my problems

>> No.21410556

>>21410554
Correct

>> No.21410560

>>21410554
No it wont, but at least it'll save you from being murdered by a nigger.

>> No.21410575

>>21410560
based
>>21410554
It won't but don't be a cringe racist. A cringe racist is resentful and hateful, while a racist knows each race is different, some superior and some inferior, but that what makes a pwrson good or bad is not their race but their actions. You can want and try to realize an ethnically homogenous society, just don't hate people because of their level of brownness(or whiteness).

>> No.21410589

ahem l *said* cant sleep but cant be bothered to get ot of bed

>> No.21410591

>>21410589
Get a job. Or some friends. Or any kind of responsibility at all

>> No.21410595

>>21410589
do you want some chamomile tea

>> No.21410597

>>21410591
l already have a gf thats quite enough

>> No.21410607

>>21410597
Then go see your gf. Dirty layabout.

>> No.21410610

>>21410607
Shes in another country right now

>> No.21410617

>>21410610
Uh oh

>> No.21410620

>>21410617
l've gotten out of bed now anyway, too much typing to do laying down so thanks

>> No.21410621

eh im learning japanese even though im not asian because i like animes

>> No.21410622 [DELETED] 

>>21410575
>You can want and try to realize an ethnically homogenous society, just don't hate people because of their level of brownness(or whiteness).
agree. I do not hate them because they are brown, I hate that they are brown in a place that should be white. it is not wrong to want to be around people who look and act like yourself. I am not sorry that I cannot conquer my monkey brain's desire for familiarity. racism is a dirty word but I still have a strong, seething hatred for the plague of Indians brought upon my country. a friend of mine's kid brother couldn't even get a job at McDonalds because the entire kitchen spoke Hindi and nobody would speak English, at all. disgust and shock are still appropriate emotions and opinions for what the kind of place I was born in has become. guess the country btw

>> No.21410626

>>21410622
Has to be bongistan

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I have realized that love is infeasible and that all human relantionships follow an abuser-abusude module, where do i go from this?

>> No.21410635

>>21410627
Stop projecting your personal dysfunctions onto the entire world and get help.

>> No.21410642

>>21410626
close. a descendent

>> No.21410650

>>21410627
Now you become a TERF

>> No.21410660

Where can I download L'Académie by R.C. Waldun? It's not on libgen.

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>>21410546
You strike me as a jew. Your demoralization attempt is a obvious and offensive as your nose.

>> No.21410680

>>21410627
ur retarded and don't have any conception of love
love is the motivation behind all human movements

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>>21410676
>Anyone who dares threaten the integrity of my echo-chamber with an alternative perspective is The Enemy.
Not who you replied to.

>> No.21410700

>>21410676
I'm not jewish and I have a petite upturned nose. I'm just explaining that I've been thouroughly atomized. Maybe I am demoralized. I dont know. I just know that deep diving into white nationalism did nothing for me. Kind of annoying actually. I was investigated by the feds over it. Knew one guy who got kicked out of the military. Another two who went to prison. Feds showed up to friends house and interviewed him. My personal life never improved, I made no impact on the world, I'm on the radar of the government, and I get called a jew or a glowie by people online. The whole thing is just so absurd.

>> No.21410718

>>21410425
>Describing that feeling to my aunt evoked envy from her because she hates living in a small rural village where everyone knows your every move.
You have no idea how blessed you are, hell is not having personal space.
>t. ethnic

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>>21410547
>A civilization in creative stagnation, that doesn't actively pursue new ideas and encourage each and every member of it's society to do so, is a civilization that will inevitably crumble due to inability to solve it's ever-changing problems. No cultural evolution, and the result is devolution.
If this was true, America would be the pinnacle of the world instead of the backwards, immoral pornographer and destroyer of all things. Not all creative endeavors of worthy of pursuit, some of them are the antithesis of creativity.

>>21410554
It will fix societies problems, blacks with and for blacks, browns with and for browns, whites with and for whites. In a generation, Africa will be almost gone as they fail to feed themselves. Then the world can finally progress to greater goals than sustaining almost half of the population who can neither feed, clothe, home or educate themselves.

>>21410546
>>21410689
>>21410700
Nothing you have said can be taken as truth because it all plays in to the behavior we have seen demonstrated time and time again. That every effort is made to subvert and derail an ethno-cultural movement for Europeans and their descendants.

I can and will profess the opposite, since find a community of like-minded people of a close ethnic relation my mental and physical health has improved tremendously. We discuss we have a few drinks a few times a month, we have families that raise and support and most of all we all have similar values, beliefs and intentions. We don't shit post online, we don't say edgy things. I imagine it is how our great grandfathers behaved. It is a wonderful thing and worth pursuing, despite your transparent attempts to belittle it.

>> No.21410753

>>21410720
Well I'm glad it all worked out for you anon.
>We don't shit post online, we don't say edgy things.
If thats what makes yiu think got the feds on our asses you're wrong. I was involved in activism. Protests, training sessions, poster runs, etc. The system came down hard on some of the guys. I really think I was lucky in a lot of ways.
>despite your transparent attempts to belittle it.
I didnt belittle anything. I identified that my root problem is atomization and alienation. I even identified that this is so thourough that I feel atomzied from my own kin in europe and my co-ethnics in america. It's even more alienating that someone with a similar philosophy should call me a jew just for talking about my personal experiences.

>> No.21410763

>>21410720
Creativity doesn't rule America, greed does, and always has. Greed rules the entire world, and is sucking humanity dry of it's creative potential.
Addictive loops of behavior aren't creative.

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>>21410753
>It's even more alienating that someone with a similar philosophy should call me a jew just for talking about my personal experiences.

I doubt the sincerity of your words, hence why it is useless to engage with you on any realistic level.

>>21410763
America is the most creative nation in existence right now, it has the largest and most diverse collection of values, peoples, opinions and leaders. What most people call creativity is simply subversion, it takes rare talent and artistry to create something beautiful. Everything else is just mimicry, subversion or destruction.

The only way to sustain a civilization with the mindset and philosophy of continuation of Blood and Soil. Especially when you are in possession of the most coveted Blood and Soil the world has.

>> No.21410806 [DELETED] 

>>21410626
hope you are still here, pajeet somehow tried to rangeban for that post describing how indians naturally cause the deterioration of every society they reside in

>> No.21410811

>>21406114
Men who write/talk about relationships a lot are such shallow effete losers and their only rebuttal to this is to call you a non-sexhaver.

>> No.21410812

>>21410786
Well theres that then. It doesnt matter what I do or say. I could post my face, show you how pale I am under my shirt, give you my whole autobiography. Doesnt matter that the FBI was handing out pictures of me to people and asking them for details about me. Doesnt matter that I was out in the real world, organizing. My sense of alienation never lifted so there's no alternative than me being Jewish, being specifically assigned to blog post general on /lit/ just write to a fantasy story to demoralize you. Years and years of my life have come to this. It's all very exhausting and unfortunately typical of the right wing.

>> No.21410816

>>21410806
Jannies are exactly equal to trannies.

>> No.21410821

>>21410786
>it has the largest and most diverse collection of values, peoples, opinions and leaders.

You're so close to understanding what makes America great (the free exchange of ideas between people of diverse perspectives and experiences) but then you offer hegemony as the answer. All I can do is LOL.

>> No.21410823

>>21410816
i wasnt even being racist by my own standards

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>>21410821
>Diversity is our strength anon
It is literally teetering on the brink of starvation, bankruptcy, civil-war and societal collapse you utter fucking mong. It has not been great since the 1960s.

>> No.21410837

>>21410816
>>21410823
When it comes to the hot-button issue of whether moderators are qualitatively identical to transwomen, it's important to play the devil's advocate and consider all the evidence. On the surface, it may seem like an easy case to make that they are not alike. After all, moderators are born male and transwomen are born female. However, when you dig a little deeper, there are some compelling arguments to be made that they are actually quite similar.
For starters, both groups have a strong desire to be seen as the opposite sex. Moderators go to great lengths to dress and behave in a way that is traditionally associated with women, while transwomen undergo hormone therapy and sometimes even surgery to change their appearance. Additionally, both groups feel a strong sense of discomfort with their assigned sex and feel a strong need to express their true identity.
Moreover, both groups face discrimination and prejudice from the mainstream world. Moderators are often ridiculed and ostracized by their peers, while transwomen face even greater discrimination, often being denied basic rights and privileges. Finally, both groups are striving to create a more inclusive world where everyone is respected and valued, regardless of their sex or gender identity.
So, when you consider all of the evidence, it becomes clear that there are more similarities than differences between moderators and transwomen. Both groups are fighting for acceptance and equality, and both groups deserve our support.

>> No.21410844

>>21410833
Why is that? Because the cult of Greed Above All is increasingly sucking America dry of it's creative potential in its effort to maximize profit at any and all costs to others.
Not only should University be free, but the boundaries between University and community should fall completely.
We need creativity for all.

>> No.21410869

>>21410844
Depends on what we see the function of university as being. Desu I never witnessed much creativty in university. They all follow the same script and teach the same values like dogma. Even moderate dissenting voices get "cancelled."
But supposing we could fix that and permit a genuine atmosphere for exchange, whatsthe function? Does every person go to university? Whats the economic function of that. Who pays for it, and what type of employment does it guarentee? What are the standards for admittance? Who becomes the tradesmen and technicians?

>> No.21410872

>>21410844
If races breed intellectual differences that are useful for the nation, then races are qualitatively different. If they only allow for differences in perspectives that are useful in the context of a diverse society, then why did we need the diversity to begin with?
If we must have racial tolerance for a proletarian revolution, then why did we need diversity to begin with? Why is it that billionaires bring them in by the millions yearly?
Is it not that race is an obstacle and tolerance is a concession, "yeah it would be better if we were homogenous but we're not so we need to tolerate each other and revolt against the people that are shipping in millions of different peoples from different races."
Societies functioned just fine while homogenous. You're a brainwashed fuck, and I'm not white. Now become racist or eat shit.

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>>21410844
Because diversity is not a bonus, it never has been.

The free exchange of ideas is important but only between those with intelligence, your unique and different perspective and experience offers nothing to anybody. The idea that some average person will have the solution to a problem that a more intelligent person will not have realized is a fabrication of the modern media circus you have.

University should not be for all, but for the best. The vast majority of University students are simply obstacles for the more intelligent students to navigate around in order to receive the education they need to better society. The idea that everybody can be raised to a better level with more comprehensive education is also a lie of the modern system.

You say creativity for all, yet most lack the ability to even think. They do not lack training to think but lack the most fundamental capacity to think of anything abstract.

>> No.21410953

>>21410874
>>21410869
Consumer culture has warped our perception of creativity by considering it to be the production of shiny objects. The most powerful form of creativity is co-creative relationships: love, friendship, community, cooperation. That is the bedrock of humanity, language and communication evolved to facilitate co-creativity.
The primary function of University should be to nourish co-creative relationships, and so it should become fully integrated with its community.

>> No.21410967

>>21410953
Seems like universities are an emergent property of healthy community by your definition. This backwards act of reintegrating the university into the community is putting the cart before the horse. Surely we should be able to achieve creativity without universities if we can rebuild communities on a foundation of co-creative love i.e. the family unit.

>> No.21410991

>>21410967
Who has experience with resolving problems in relationships between family members so they can grow stronger?
Yes let's demonize psychologists and therapists, I'm sure that will work great.

>> No.21411005

>>21410991
>Yes let's demonize psychologists and therapists
based
>“Mental health” programs, “intervention” techniques, psychotherapy and so forth are ostensibly designed to benefit individuals, but in practice they usually serve as methods for inducing individuals to think and behave as the system requires. (There is no contradiction here; an individual whose attitudes or behavior bring him into conflict with the system is up against a force that is too powerful for him to conquer or escape from, hence he is likely to suffer from stress, frustration, defeat. His path will be much easier if he thinks and behaves as the system requires. In that sense the system is acting for the benefit of the individual when it brainwashes him into conformity.) Child abuse in its gross and obvious forms is disapproved in most if not all cultures. Tormenting a child for a trivial reason or no reason at all is something that appalls almost everyone. But many psychologists interpret the concept of abuse much more broadly. Is spanking, when used as part of a rational and consistent system of discipline, a form of abuse? The question will ultimately be decided by whether or not spanking tends to produce behavior that makes a person fit in well with the existing system of society. In practice, the word “abuse” tends to be interpreted to include any method of child-rearing that produces behavior inconvenient for the system. Thus, when they go beyond the prevention of obvious, senseless cruelty, programs for preventing “child abuse” are directed toward the control of human behavior on behalf of the system.

>> No.21411028

>>21410991
>let's demonize psychologists and therapists, I'm sure that will work great
I'm not sure how that relates to my post
>Who has experience with resolving problems in relationships between family members so they can grow stronger?
Anyone with a family? Ive always been the natural mediator in my family and I only have an associate's degree

>> No.21411031

>>21411005
>Demonize education.
>Demonize psychology.
>Demonize science.
>Demonize philosophy.
>Demonize cooperation.
>Demonize democracy.
>Worship punishment.

At the end of the day you have to ask myself, "Am I the dummy?" Am I truly with intelligent, creative people?

>> No.21411035

>>21411031
>Demonize education.
>Demonize psychology.
>Demonize science.
>Demonize philosophy.
>Demonize cooperation.
>Demonize democracy.
>Worship punishment.
Holy shit BASED

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>engaging with the retarded rockwellfag
>for half the goddamn thread
when will they learn

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>>21410953
>Consumer culture has warped our perception of creativity by considering it to be the production of shiny objects.
That is the most creative field we live in and the one with the most immediate results for success. Because the creativity does not match your own personal criteria makes it no less valid for your world-view, you have a double-standard here which you ignore because your values are well thought out.

>The most powerful form of creativity is co-creative relationships: love, friendship, community, cooperation.
This sentence means absolutely nothing, what you have described here is not co-creativity but the standard family attached to the land. That is the very core of Blood & Soil, it has nothing to do with co-creativity but strong bonds built on objective concepts.

>The primary function of University should be to nourish co-creative relationships, and so it should become fully integrated with its community.
No, the primary function of University is to cultivate special skills and talents which are not within reach of the average person nor would they be understandable by the average person. What you have described is the family, which is of the utmost of importance.

>Who has experience with resolving problems in relationships between family members so they can grow stronger
Broken families produce broken people, what was once left to the Matriarch and the Patriarch of a family is now outsourced because they can no longer afford the time and resources to resolve disputes. Psychologists and most non-physical therapies are a dangerous trade that can not accurately or reliable predict any results. The fact that we have spiraling problems shows that. That the insistance that everybody can be healed or is worth something is a toxic mentality to have in a family.

>> No.21411084

>>21411069
rockwellfag is good enough with rhetoric that when he's wrong(about 25% of the time) he can just switch the topic to something he knows he will win. Marxtards can't into rhetoric.

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>>21411069
When you convince me of a better position, simply shit-flinging Marxist slogans and the financial merits of anarcho-kiddy-fiddlerism is not a compelling argument for me to embrace Liberalism.

>>21411084
I follow the conversation, I don't switch topics when I lose.

>> No.21411104

>>21411084
giving her any attention at all is the first and only mistake

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>>21411104
: (

>> No.21411119

>>21411069
He has a fair grasp on fascist theory, he just gets obnoxious when he starts accusing everyone else of being a jew.

>> No.21411150

>>21411119
I'd be interested to see how accurate the accusations are, I suspect they hit more than they miss.

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>>21406114
Using ChatGPT as a friend/therapist

I for one, welcome our robot overlords.

>> No.21411167

>>21411150
Somehow I dont think /wwoym/ is crawling with Jews

>> No.21411187

>>21411150
>>21411167
It's probably enough for them to be intellectually or spiritually a jew.

>> No.21411189

>>21411167
there are lots of jews on /lit/, only thing is a lot of them are antisemites

>> No.21411190

>>21411187
What does that mean

>> No.21411201

>>21411190
They may not be a jew racially, or even religiously, but their goals are exactly aligned with jews. Obviously the jew seeks to advance his race, while the "spiritually jewish" white seeks to advance equality or some shit while effectively fucking everyone to the advantage of jews.

>> No.21411213

i dont know how much longer i can keep this charade going...

>> No.21411215

>>21411213
Whats the charade

>> No.21411261

I just found out we passed 12 billion people on Earth.

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>>21411190
A support of global-homogenization, of the destruction of the concept of a sovereign country. The reduction of the food chain to literal low-value slop. The mocking of nationalism, ethnic-solidarity (except Israel) and the further reduction of society to the extreme individualism.

>> No.21411295

>>21409962
I liked this, very nice anon

>> No.21411316

It's okay if you make a mistake, but you have to recover and quickly. That's a difficult lesson to learn too late.

>> No.21411320

>>21411261
The global population is 8 billion and probably won't hit 9 billion.

>> No.21411376

As someone who "grew up" on the internet from the late '90s onward, I sometimes wonder if it's easier for me to distinguish between WWW and IRL than it is for the people who viewed it as a novelty for a long time, until it became embedded in daily life with smartphones and social media (the latter of which I tend to avoid as much as possible).

When a family member passed away, the funeral home (without consulting us) set up an online obituary where people could post their condolences and "light" digital candles. It struck me as completely bizarre, if not downright tacky, but to them it was just another completely ordinary part of the preparations.

>> No.21411405

It's over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukiB2GfLxRY

>> No.21411418

Am I losing if I start to fully blame myself for how our relationship ended? I'm thinking that it really was my fault and I wronged her deeply, but maybe it's just long term manipulation paying off into making me believe that she was right. How common is this with women in regard to failed relationships?

>> No.21411431

>>21411418
What did you do to her? Some things you may have done but not noticed are emotional manipulation(acting like a sadboi to get her to feel bad), over-dependence, and not putting in enough effort(for example, she works but you don't).

>> No.21411502

>>21411431
We lived about 400 miles apart and I didn't visit her enough because I had to take care of my parents, couldn't leave them alone + i had no means of transportation. And I was closer with my friends than I was with her, eventually choosing to side with them whenever the expected ultimatum happened. She was blaming me of not loving her and treating her as if she was worthless when I never said a single bad word to her the entire time and I was always nervous about saying something that might have hurt her even if unintentional.
It was probably the distance that killed the whole deal.

>> No.21411506

>>21411376
That’s ducking weird and I’m 26 for reference. People have always been lazy and not genuine but interested in presenting themselves as caring so I’m not surprised. I don’t think it’s an interest thing rather an easy cop out that has been generally accepted.

>> No.21411512

People poke fun at me becuase I’m naive and gullible but I just don’t lie

>> No.21411536

I feel depressed when I look up a school's website and it has a bunch of typos.

>> No.21411559

>>21411502
Sounds like you're both mentally unhealthy people. A long-distance relationship is incredibly difficult to maintain and I doubt the two of you were up to the task.

>> No.21411579

>>21411512
You can be honest and not naive and gullible. You probably don't speak honestly when you risk confrontation.

>> No.21411580

>>21411559
You are not wrong in your assessment. We most likely got together because we were (or are) not so well up there. But we're not doomed to remain unwell, are we? Maybe if we were to talk again in a more mature and well balanced mindset, we would make peace. Sorry if this all seems so juvenile, but I'm more inexperienced with people than I'd like to admit.

>> No.21411604

>>21411502
>We lived about 400 miles apart
Well there's your problem bucko

>> No.21411609

>>21411580
Of course you're not doomed to remain unwell but that's a journey you need to go on mostly alone and the odds of another person coming along for the ride is fairly low, especially when the hope is that they, starting from a similar place as you, are also going to get better alongside you. Most people who are unwell stay unwell and they die unwell because the pain that originally caused them to develop the maladaptations that have led to their misery is too much for them to confront. People do everything in their power to make themselves comfortable to lessen their pain when in reality pain is informing you of changes that need to be made and a path that needs to be taken which cannot be discerned until you understand it.

>> No.21411610

>>21411580
Long distance relationships dont work.

>> No.21411630

>>21411093
>anarcho-kiddy-fiddlerism is not a compelling argument for me to embrace Liberalism.
audible kek

>> No.21411748

I'm not feeling very christmasy bros

>> No.21411789

>>21406114
something I've dwelt on for a while.

why, by any stretch of the imagination, and I've said private property limits freedom of speech, that if, by any chance, I'm having a private, polite conversation about, lets say, the eccentricities of black or jews, why is it any of your goddamn business, what say, me and a couple friends are discussing, especially if we're not causing any type of social disturbance by being loud, or being outrageous in public? I mean I don't care who you are, woman, man, tranny, don't care, what are you gonna do when some jacked motherfucker at my table, etc etc, breaks your fucking jaw, because "oh no, we're making people uncomfortable five tables over"? you need to get a fucking life and mind your own fucking goddamn business you little faggot.

sorry, I was stewing over that for several minutes. it came to mind and haven't thought about the implications of "le its a pRiVaTe CoMpAny" in some time.

>> No.21411795

>>21411748
End of empire.
Maybe even "Christmas at Ground Zero"

>> No.21411798

I just realized that tranny shit is basically gnosticism. The idea that your body as it was created is a lie and there's a "real" you that's hidden, and that can only be brought out with arcane procedures, is straight out of some 2nd Century mystery cult.

>> No.21411801
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There needs to be distinctions between person private property related to home, hearth and local family business and supranational entities that can effectively manipulate the national stage to their own advantage and create local areas of complete control.

>> No.21411811

>>21411119
That's their "theory" in a nutshell

>>21411150
And this is all it take. Don't even need to be an actual Jew. Just shoot them and claim it so.
Stupid fascist posters

>> No.21411813

Do authors really truly know dozens of different species of trees and flowers and other plants? Does the average person? Reading novels I find myself looking them up and then eventually forgetting them.

>> No.21411829

>>21411609
Thank you for your time and your advice, man. If I can ask for one final clarification, what were you exactly referring to by "understanding it"? Understanding the coping mechanism? It's a stupid question but I'd like to be sure nonetheless.
>>21411604
>>21411610
Should have figured as much.

>> No.21411848

>>21411801
I get the feeling that the person that drew that graphic did not know how greatly it conflicts with his beliefs. The only way this makes sense is if the guy is an overt authoritarian. (Not that I'm anti-authority, but the artist seems to be making a stab at "populism" assuming populism contradicts true democracy)

>> No.21411856

>>21411795
What?

>> No.21411863

We'll I've officially been on 4chan all day

>> No.21411869

>>21411863
Being a female must be a lot of fun.

>> No.21411872

>>21411863
please don't let it become a common occurrence in your life. it is not good.

>> No.21411886

>>21411869
Yeah I bet it is
>>21411872
Doing my best but theres literally nothing else to do. School is over until January, and this fucking wagie job is dragging its heels to get me started.

>> No.21411893

>>21411886
you could be listening to author interviews or lectures instead of being here

>> No.21411901

>>21411893
Yeah probably

>> No.21411905

>>21411795
Fishbone?

>>21411376
I've been online since 1993 at the earliest. I miss those days

>>21411886
It probably is. Society doesn't really expect much out of you and you can just live on daddy's money for as long as you like. I don't think women are really capable of handling an actual life crisis. They're not mentally equipped for it.

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I like the feeling of this fatboy in my hands

>> No.21411979

>>21406114
For several years, whenever I took hallucinogens I would find myself obsessing over deer’s ears. There was something comforting about thinking of them, imagining touching them. One time I filled a page with what I thought was a more or less random spiral shape on the LSD comedown, and showed it to a girl I had slept with several times two years before and had intense, unrequited feelings for. She immediately said “wow dude, that’s a lot of vaginas.” I hadn’t noticed or intended it at all, but the spiral patterns absolutely looked distinctly vaginal. She must have been extremely weirded out. I then realized the deer ear obsession was actually a sublimated obsession with the vaginal shape as well. I watch a lot of porn btw.

>> No.21411987

what a life it would be
if you could come to mine for tea
i'll pick you up at half past three
we'll have lasagna

>> No.21412073

>>21411979
I've had several long term girlfriends and regular sex for ten years and I don't think I could draw a vagina. Sometimes when I'm putting my penis or my fingers in I still think, is this where it goes? It always goes in the right place by itself and I always just shrug and assume you can't mess it up but I've had some close calls where I was fumbling around there for more than a second and really thinking about how the vagina is both my best friend and still a stranger.

>> No.21412077

Ever had one of those days, where the day immediately passes by and the next day is already here? Feels that way right now. And I don't like it.

>> No.21412087

>>21412077
i slept for 16 hours today

>> No.21412107

How do you deal with always being disappointed by people? By family?

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>>21412073
Just return to warm mommy vagina vagina belly vagina

>> No.21412120

>>21412077
Ive had one of those but with the last 5 years

>> No.21412132

I don't understand authenticity. I heard that it's sticking to your own personal values contra the values of the masses, but I bring up whether Hitler was being authentic and they say it's not appropriate to consider Hitler or Nazis as "authentic" because their values aren't acceptable, but that literally fits the definition they gave for authenticity, and they keep going on about how Hitler's ideas are unacceptable no matter what.

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>I don't understand authenticity. I heard that it's sticking to your own personal values contra the values of the masses, but I bring up whether Hitler was being authentic and they say it's not appropriate to consider Hitler or Nazis as "authentic" because their values aren't acceptable, but that literally fits the definition they gave for authenticity, and they keep going on about how Hitler's ideas are unacceptable no matter what.

>> No.21412147

>>21412132
>December 20th, 2022: Anon realizes most people are literally retarded and can believe "X is circle" and "X is square" at the same time depending which social/emotional connotations are more relevant to them

Now you are free. Any time you ever get mad at someone for the rest of your life, and your instinct is to go "what the fuck! how dare that bitch say X and not X just five seconds apart! how could she possibly do that? why would she do that?!" you can save yourself all that time by remembering she's dumber than a rat and it's not even her fault

>> No.21412149

Why is /k/ the weapons board? Because the character looks like an assault rifle?

>> No.21412164

>>21412147
>December 20th, 2022
>a date that will live in infamy

>> No.21412170

i like the word “booklet”. it’s cute

>> No.21412176

>>21412170
You are either a femboy with severe issues or a female. It's time to stop posting.

>> No.21412178

>>21412176
Men can find things cute

>> No.21412179

>>21412137
I dunno. Seems like they're just trying to save face by telling him that. The whole argument "bee yourself" is really a misnomer, because it only applies if your authentic self aligns with mainstream values of the day. Its bad advice if you tell someone whose values aren't aligned with this basic premise, because it will just lead them to become ostracized. Such is life.

>> No.21412183

>>21412178
Yeah but booklet? That's too weird. I'm going to need a timestamped picture of your balls, sir.

>> No.21412189

>>21412179
Yes, spazzes gonna spaz. Such is life.

>> No.21412212

>>21412176
You are a raging homosexual, in the Jungian sense

>> No.21412223

>>21412212
I imagined this in Jordon Petersons voice

>> No.21412225

>>21406114
is it a sin to steal from walmart?

>> No.21412246

>>21412225
yes. stop undermining free enterprise

>> No.21412252

>>21412225
The Walton's are some of the worst thieves in the country. Take whatever you can.

>> No.21412253

>>21412246
>>21412252
Duality of Man

>> No.21412256

>>21412223
You just typed this >>21412183
You are a homosexual

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>>21412253
Bootlickers can hardly be considered men

>> No.21412272

>>21412256
That wasnt me

>> No.21412281

>>21412267
Desu, licking a pair of knee high, shiny boots would give me a raging hardon

>> No.21412282

>>21412281
least homosexual fascist

>> No.21412286

>>21412281
I've licked multiple girls docs, its alright.

>> No.21412292

>>21412282
Its only hot if its a pale goth girl
>>21412286
Lucky bastard

>> No.21412397

Do girls really Google your name when they're interested in dating you, or when they match with you on a dating app? It would never occur to me to do something like that.

>> No.21412411

>>21412189
Fair enough, but I don't understand why people are not willing to step outside their comfort zone when they expect the same of us. I mean I probably know the answer but I'm willing to form a separate society if worse comes to worse.

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Next thread

>> No.21412423

Next thread
>>21412413
>>21412413
>>21412413

>> No.21412861

7AM and a new day of dreaded work begins anew. The world is, for the next 8 hours, the work I most perform. It is drab work and could be performed by another easily, I'm replaceable and the hypothetical other in my place would do the same, better or worse, as me. It's drab but it is also labor. Labor that exists and motivates me, financially, to complete it. One day it will be non-existent as it will be replaced by AI. It probably already is. The labor won't exist but the work will be done. Realizing this, the work takes on a different shade. It ceases to be dreadfulness and turns into a blessing. The work is meaningless but labor isn't. Labor is purposefulness in distilling. Giving whilst receiving immediately from the constant positive feedback loop. It's realizing that i am privileged for being slave wagie, while realizing others in the future will envy me for doing these menial tasks. I am meaningless as my work but i have purpose as the labor force.
Felt dread, now feeling blessed after exorcising these thoughts. The world gets as much as we can give and get from the world as much as we can take. Today i take meaning from the world and in return it receives rambling platitudes.

>> No.21413450

Literature and business feel to me like diametrically opposed opposites.