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Logical positivism was correct - all philosophy consists of illusory problems that can have no sensical answers. There is only one hero that survived. Thus reading anything beyond Aristotle is a waste of time. Only Aristotle can withstand modernity, only his books are worth studying in depth. Plato is dead.

>> No.21371192

plato and aristotle ARE modernity. to escape this trap you need to go back to the sophists and pre-socratics.

>> No.21371213

>>21371156
the views of logical positivism are irreconcilable with aristotelianism on so many levels, for example in their position on empiricism and on the primacy of inductive vs deductive reasoning in philosophy or science

>> No.21371346

>>21371213
Aristotle created empiricism contrary to what those positivists would like to say.

>> No.21371425

>>21371156
>Philosophy is dead because... BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OKAY?
Long after this gay civilisation and its technomaterialist ideology collapse into oblivion, the name "Plato" will echo throughout history as a hallmark of perennial wisdom

>> No.21371713

>>21371156
Counterpoint: Hegel, Schmitt and Žižek
All of them were right

>> No.21371733

>>21371213
I've read Simondon and he seems to think that Aristotle was inductive in his methodology

>> No.21371761

>>21371156
How do you establish basics like identity using tools like logic that rest on those basics existing? You don't mind being completely disconnected from reality?

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21372167

>>21371156
Masturbating over the definitions of words isn't philosophy, you faggot. True Philosophy as the ancients understood it is an active praxis that brings one into communion with the divine. Get fucked.

>> No.21372207

>>21371192
What is this pre-socratic meme I always see? Are you such a contrarian that you feel the need to argue that fucking PLATO AND ARISTOTLE are too modern? What do you like so much about the pre-Socratics anyway?
>Everything is made up of.... LE FIRE
I understand they were influential, and Aristotle and Plato clearly think highly of many of them, but why do you think that their philosophy is superior?

>> No.21372211

>>21372167
Based and noesis-pilled

>> No.21372277

>>21372167
Based. I fucking hate these retards who get hung up on definitions and never actually arrive at any meaningful conclusions.