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I love the horror elements and creatures of Berserk. What are some good similar fiction books?
I am interested dark fantasy fiction involving demons, cosmic horror and religious themes.

>> No.21355485

>another bait thread for /lit/fags to seethe about "muh superior books"
Based.
Also, H.P. Lovecraft

>> No.21355495

>>21355485
Never read any Lovecraft books. Do they hold up? I feel like his monsters and premises aren't very scary. I watched the 1930s Dracula recently and it was pretty funny.

>> No.21355529

>>21355495
>Do they hold up?
His ideas are good but his prose us awful. He was a talented idea guy, not a talented writer.

>> No.21355536

>>21355529
TSMT

>> No.21355540

R. Scott Bakker - Second Apocalypse

>> No.21355543

>>21355479
Bumping out of interest, I know Between Two Fires but I found it to have near YA-tier writing, good but not great

>> No.21355548

>>21355540
What can I expect in terms of horror elements and worldbuilding?

>> No.21355549

>>21355495
I think they're great. It's not like they will make you go insane, shit bricks and call a niggerman to save you. But Lovecraft is good at building tension and atmosphere. He's just comfy to read, especially now.
My favourite one of his stories is "Shadow over Innsmouth". Highly recommend to read it and then watch this one video on yt, so you can boast about how you know the source not like pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTHn2tHhcI

>> No.21355556

>>21355548
There's a scene where a winged demon rapes a woman to death, then rapes her child to death, then rapes the husband to death

>> No.21355567

>>21355479
>>21355495
>>21355548
I fucking hate berserkids
retarded zoomers with no knowledge of the media that MIURA HIMSELF took from and then pretend that berserk founded dark edgy fantasy
it's a medicore manga, that's all, better than most manga out there but not that special

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>>21355567
There he is! That one fag who always seethe uncontrollably whenever Berserk is mentioned. Took you long enough to show up, nigger

>> No.21355588

>>21355583
why are berserk fanboys so insecure?

>> No.21355590

>>21355567
Here's the first seething gatekeeper. Chill out, man. You don't need to reafirm yourself to a bunch of anonymous strangers. And I didn't claim Miura created these concepts out of thin air either.
>>21355556
I will now read your book

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Looking for a book similar to Salo in its themes and depravity. Any recs?

>> No.21355602

>>21355540
do you mean the prince of nothing? becuase I don’t see any “Second Apocalypse” by Bakker on amazog

>> No.21355630

>>21355600
You know it comes from a De Sade book right?
I'd guess Interzone or Naked Lunch by Burroughs anyway

>> No.21355689

>>21355479
I mean if you want the same level of dread: I have no mouth and I must scream and House of Leaves

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>>21355479

>> No.21355731

>>21355479
He copy pasted Hollywood generic monsters + a sprinkle of Bosch like imagery.

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One fact that many people not know is Muira Berserk Author are sci fi novel fan . He read and draw scifi manga himself before berserk . The name of 4 god hand come from the name of scifi novel . He mix it with fantasy of hellrising cenobit . I can tell you he definite read the golden ass too.

>> No.21355904

>>21355810

Ubik
Slan

Who were the other two named after? Femto's name comes from a unit of measurement. I also want to say Michael Moorcock was an influence too because Corum definitely feels similar to Berserk in a lot of ways. Both Guts, and Corum lose an eye, and an arm and they have different spiritual planes of existence in both stories.

>> No.21355991

>>21355495
Read The Color Out of Space.

I know it has a silly name, but's it is genuinely the scariest thing I have ever read.

No one does dread like Lovecraft.

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>>21355479
You'll love the Book of the New Sun. It's basically Berserk of Dark Souls.

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>>21355495
>Monster and premises not scary
>Watched some crocked ass 30s action adaptation.

Bruh, another cumsomer is here to give his "mind".

"Horrors beyond human comprehension" - this is the hallmark of Lovecraft work, and if you think you comprehend them in any way, you missing the fucking point, and this is we're his contributions to world of ideas lies and shines, even though his "work" Is to describe them.

>t. only read him through random forum one liner recollections.

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>>21355904
The destinate void by frank herbert . Its story about. Super giant brain which become insane in the space ship

And the next book is "My name is Conrand" the post apocalypse guide of earth for alien traveler

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>>21355583
Niger Niger Niger

>> No.21356072

>>21355714
Ordered this yesterday, sounds pretty fuckong sweet

>> No.21356080

>>21356052
Herbert wrote more than just Dune??

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>>21356052
i want to FUCK this cat

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>>21355548
>What can I expect in terms of horror elements and worldbuilding?
Romantic relationship between two men

>> No.21358380

>>21355600
George Bataille's Story of Eye

>> No.21358508

>>21355588
Why are you bitching and moaning?

>> No.21358515

>>21355714
Looks sick, I’ll check it out.

>>21355479
Check out the Devilman classic collection. It was a major influence on Berserk and Chainsaw Man and it’s just good. They look sexy on a shelf too.

>> No.21358911

hans hanny jahnn - 13 uncanny stories

>> No.21358923

Some of Robert E Howard's both Conan and non Conan stories have such elements.

>> No.21359101

>>21355479
Goddamn those are some fascinating monster designs. Will the West ever catch up with Japan in terms of the sheer imagination of Japanese monster design? No one in the West to my knowledge has topped Giger's bizarre and almost Freudian horrors

>> No.21359143

>>21359101
There's the polish dude who is quite good
I don't remember the name, but if you write polish horror painting you should find them

>> No.21359144

>>21356052
>The destinate void by frank herbert . Its story about. Super giant brain which become insane in the space ship
That sounds really cool

>> No.21359147

>>21355904
Yeah Miura almost certainly read the Corum books. Even the event during which Corum loses his eye and hand is similar to the eclipse.

>> No.21359149

>>21359143
Oh you're talking about Beksinski right? I love him but he's still not what I'm looking for because for one thing he's long dead and his influence doesn't resonate that much in American media I don't think.

>> No.21359157 [DELETED] 

>>21355479
Some good similar fiction books to Berserk with horror elements and creatures are:

1. The Dark Tower series by Stephen King
2. The Hellbound Heart by Clive Barker
3. The Wormhole by Michael Joseph
4. The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty
5. The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
6. The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss
7. The Raven Cycle by Maggie Stiefvater
8. The Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett
9. The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson
10. The Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson.

>> No.21359158

>>21359101
There are a few fantastic illustrators in the west. Check out artstation and all the insane MTG artists. That being said, the evocative power of Giger feels unparalleled, but I don’t know how much of it is a feature of its historical position

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>>21359101
Berserk is wild. That one's not even a standout panel.

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>>21355529
>lovecraft's prose
>awful

>There were, in such voyages, incalculable local dangers; as well as that shocking final peril which gibbers unmentionably outside the ordered universe, where no dreams reach; that last amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the centre of all infinity—the boundless daemon-sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes; to which detestable pounding and piping dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic ultimate gods, the blind, voiceless, tenebrous, mindless Other Gods whose soul and messenger is the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep.

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>>21355479
I don't know about any books per se but as far as comics (I refuse to call it manga because I'm not a chinaman) go, I would say Tsutomu Nihei if you don't already know him. I've really only read some of his Blame! series but he has a really good knack for creating these incredible, sinewy characters and creatures. Blame! takes place in this collapsed, cyberpunk biomechanical labyrinth world that's overrun by posthuman cyborgs and weird synthetic lifeforms that seem to serve no known purpose. Very atmospheric and cold. Picrel is an example of his style, although I don't think this is from Blame!

>> No.21359196

>>21359158
>artstation
I've found a few good'uns on there but it's waaaaayyy too chockful of corporate video game concept artists for me. All the Blizzardified, colorful nonsense really turns me off.

>> No.21359255

>>21355479
Try reading H.P. Lovecraft

>> No.21359258

>>21359178
Yes Lovecraft was capable of bringing out the big guns sometimes but for the most part I agree with the guy you're responding to, most of the works of Lovecraft I've read have been full of plodding, repetitive, uninteresting writing interspersed with some very nice imagery and ideas here and there, although it's been a while so maybe I need to re-visit.

>> No.21359283

>>21359101
The author of Berserk definitely took a lot of inspiration from the works of Hieronymus Bosch.

>> No.21359309

>>21359283
I definitely see that, and Japanese creature designs often take a lot from Western creature designs, but my issue is that the West has largely left behind its own tradition of imagining the strange and the uncanny, many artists over here are afraid to take risks and delve into the "collective unconsciousness" or the psyche for whatever reasons, whereas Japan kind of took up the torch so to speak. Western design is more and more reliant on "aaargh gory and gross pustule covered thing" with some outliers.

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>>21355904
>Both Guts, and Corum lose an eye, and an arm
>>21359147
>Even the event during which Corum loses his eye and hand
Wait until you hear about Götz, the knight with a mechanical arm