"The Cantos" /lit/'s next collaborative project?

[Anonymous No.21349112]

It's been a year or two since /lit/ did a collaborative project and I was thinking: we've done what, five novels at this point, what if we did a collaborative poem, something akin to Pound's cantos, or The Waste Land, or something like that? We could do it in two phases:
>PHASE ONE: we write the cantos, at least 120 of them. Some anons can submit early and claim a specific number for their canto and submit it independently, other anons can set up a Google doc and write their canto(s) together, etc., and we'll do this for a couple months so everybody has plenty of time to write
I like the idea of cantos because this allows us to write whatever kinds of poems we want without any regard toward continuity; of course, some anons might get together to write a "movement" spanning multiple cantos too.
>PHASE TWO: after the cantos have been written and compiled into a single reference PDF, we all write a commentary for the entire poem, à la Singleton's commentary on the Divine Comedy, or Nabokov's actual commentary on Eugene Onegin, or (better yet), Pale Fire, complete with line references (hence the need for a compiled reference PDF)

[Anonymous No.21349130]

I like it..

[Anonymous No.21349356]

>>21349112
absolutely; post googledrive link asap

[Anonymous No.21349415]

I like this idea, especially since we haven't done a poetry project. The autocommentary is also a good idea. The Cantos already exists though. From Lyrical Ballads and The Waste Land how about something like Lyrical Badlands?
https://board.net/p/litpoem

[Anonymous No.21349429]

>>21349415
I like that name.
Also, you fucker, I was going to use etherpad as well! Great minds think alike. I'm currently setting up an email address for anons to submit their own cantos, for those who don't want to write collaboratively.

[Anonymous No.21349435]

>>21349415
Also, we need to make sure that we're downloading the entire document every couple of hours or so, just in case (as usually happens) somebody deletes the entire thing or copy-pastes something massive in the middle of it.

[Anonymous No.21349470]

Alright, email is up:
>[e-mail]

[Anonymous No.21349508]

>>21349429
>>21349435
Cool, yeah I want to submit something. How do we coordinate submissions and the doc? Update the doc with submissions, mark them and compare with the submitted version for the final pdf version?

[Anonymous No.21349527]

>>21349508
We can do either, or we can just combine all the email submissions with the document. If anons want their canto to be a specific number, they'd have to specify which number in the email (unless the number was already taken, or there currently aren't enough cantos to fill in the space; for example, an anon emails his canto and says "I want this to be canto 142," but there are currently only 63 cantos.)

[Anonymous No.21349634]

Bumping because this sounds interesting. Don't mind the poem I just added, just a placeholder until I figure something else out.

[Anonymous No.21349672]

Just curious, is everything going to be included regardless of quality? Or do we have some sort of standard all the cantos must meet?

[Anonymous No.21350581]

>>21349672
bump and a good question -- with a total jokework editing would only be limiting, but if we have to write a commentary too...

[Anonymous No.21350959]

>>21349672
I'm not sure how we'd approach this. On the one hand, excessive editing goes against the spirit of /lit/'s collaborative works, but on the other hand, if some anon writes 200 cantos of Rupi Kaur-style poetry with random sentences and line breaks, then obviously we're not going to print that shit (worst case scenario, they'd be cut down by half and combined into one canto).

[Anonymous No.21350971]

>>21350959
yeah i'm 50 into a kaurrun to destroy this doc & i should be stopped

[Anonymous No.21351015]

>>21349112
absolutely, post googledrive link asap

[Anonymous No.21351383]

>>21351015
https://board.net/p/litpoem
>>21349112
bump

[Anonymous No.21351931]

>>21349112
What's the theme for it? Do we have some central idea? Otherwise it would just be a scattershot collection.

[Anonymous No.21352073]

>>21349112
I'd like to claim number 8 ahead of time, I should take a break from my current esoteric Egyptian schizobabble to write a different variety of esoteric Egyptian schizobabble.
It'll be the Ogdoad sitting around kvetching about Creation. If there's time, I might be able to manage an intro in hieroglyphs.

[Anonymous No.21352087]

>>21352073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP0kCO7_YmE

[Anonymous No.21352516]

where are the ones about jews?

[Anonymous No.21352544]

>>21349130
Same

[Anonymous No.21352715]

I plan to write and another in a collaborative movement. If anyone wants to join that message me on discord.
duck feet#9379

[Anonymous No.21353372]

>>21352073
Sounds good, Canto Eight is hereby reserved for you, anon.

[Anonymous No.21353375]

>>21351931
Not really, no; the main theme or idea is that its written by us. Anons can write their own individual cantos, or, like I said, anons can write a movement spanning multiple cantos that are connected.

[Anonymous No.21353416]

>>21353375
Sounds more like a collection or anthology.

[Anonymous No.21353440]

Can i schedule a reservation for 61, 62, 63 and 65. (Skipping 64 rat number) for a collab project?

[Anonymous No.21353595]

this is great

[Anonymous No.21353996]

>>21349112
this is great

[Anonymous No.21354025]

>>21351931
No, the theme emerges organically. Then it will be the job of us as annotators to elucidate what it is

[Anonymous No.21354031]

>>21354025
This
bros if we pull this off it might as well be one of the greatest things we've ever written

[Anonymous No.21354033]

>>21354031
it already is, anon. toss a canto in early!

[Anonymous No.21354335]

I think that- if other anons do not object to this- we should throw in allusions to Pound's cantos throughout. We could even have a couple written as a parody or a variation on one of his themes.

[Anonymous No.21354837]

>>21354335
not too much usurylarping tho pls

[Anonymous No.21354960]

>>21349112
bumping where tf you boys at

[Anonymous No.21355306]

>>21354960
yeah the thread has a lot less engagement than I thought it would desu

[Anonymous No.21355327]

>>21355306
Too vague. I don't think /lit/ can create something with any cohesion without some kind of direction beforehand. You will just get all the shitposter's crude poems, that are sometimes funny I'll admit, but mixed in with more serious posters of all different styles. It won't feel like an epic or narrative at all. I think the goal is in conflict with the means to produce it.

[Anonymous No.21356293]

>>21355327
What would your solution be? I'd like to see this project go somewhere.

[Anonymous No.21356725]

I want to contribute but I'm no good at poetry

[Anonymous No.21356734]

>>21356725
If Rupi Kaur, Bukowski, and Robert Frost got their poetry published, so can you

[Anonymous No.21357104]

>>21356293
A very simple, broad direction at least. Make it just /lit/ culture, or "Anon on a journey", really anything to give it some semblance of unity.

[Anonymous No.21357105]

>>21356734
Robert Frost is actually good though. Does not deserve to be lumped in with those other two.

[Anonymous No.21357133]

>>21350959
I think a balance between high quality poetry and base level shitposting should be struck. A 50/50 split would be juxtapositional brilliance and completely in line with the culture of the board and 4chan in general.
>cantos 29 is an 24 stanza effortpost about the beauty of nature and the indomitable human spirit
>cantos 30 is a collection of how to say the n word in a dozen languages
Kino.

[Anonymous No.21357228]

>>21350959
I'm working with several others in making a small movement within the project that follows a list of semi strict rules. While this doesn't change the wholistic view of the project, it will make it feel more connected as several styles all ahere to said rules.
The movement will be based on these three rules, 1) It must be Fantastical in nature 2) Some amount of words must be made up, but feel connected to the used language 3) Time and place should be loose. One anon may make a miniature epic like a quest for the holy grail using strict hexameter while another may have a more freeform pure love poem, so while the whole collection of this movement may only be 5 or 6 canto's long, it would be indicative of the project as a whole especially if more groups made other multimember movements.

also >>21352715
This is me if anyone wants to work with that movement

[Anonymous No.21357697]

Bump!

>>21356725
No need to be "good" anon. Just write something from the heart!

>>21357133
This would also be in line with the rest of the work /lit/ has written (which we've gotten increasingly better at; There is significantly more funny stuff in our later works than there is in our early works, but maybe that's just due to board culture changing or something).

[Anonymous No.21358137]

I think there's something inherent in poëtry that makes it less popular to a 4channel project such as this (regardless of (lack of) quality or form – tho p’rhaps this plays a part: given /lit/‘s conservatism qua poetic form and probable self-confessed lack of talent – tho then again, why not: why not just lots of doggerel rime?) – inherently less popular than prose, which constitutes (ofc a propitious time is also always part of it) the other /lit/ books, which, under a postmodern pretext (again, maybe more welcomed wrt fiction than poesy or felsefe – tho p’rhaps this too is already, within a relatively short span of time, some of an older /lit/ – Devs vvlt?), can be vaguely styled ‘novels’.

[Anonymous No.21358224]

>>21357697
>Just write something from the heart!
Is there a maximum amount of times I'm allowed to say nigger?

[Anonymous No.21358228]

>>21357697
nevermind just realised it's been done >>21357133

[Anonymous No.21358539]

bump

[Anonymous No.21358561]

>>21358224
As long as it conforms to good taste, no.

[Anonymous No.21358581]

>>21358137
Do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.21358588]

>>21355306
There are at least 3 or 4 anons here who are willing to keep this project bumped and alive.

[Anonymous No.21358654]

>>21358581
Because of a digressive sentence and satyrical alternative spellings??

[Anonymous No.21358744]

>>21358654
Thank you for answering my question.

[Anonymous No.21358901]

>>21356734
>Robert Frost
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.21358928]

>>21349415
I definitely recall a poetry collab a few years ago that was never finished. In fact there were many projects that were started and never finished, including a philosophy and Platonic dialogue one.

[Anonymous No.21358929]

>>21349112
this has potential. will send my submission.

[Anonymous No.21358991]

>>21358928
>including a philosophy and Platonic dialogue
Now that seems too difficult to pull off.

[Anonymous No.21359168]

>>21358588
hellobump

[Anonymous No.21359234]

>>21350959
For Hypersphere it was decided by anons voting out submissions. Effectively, if an anon bothered to add a comment and defend it (if it was his work) he likely cared enough to keep it. But that book actually saw print.

[Anonymous No.21359268]

>>21358929
Thanks

[Anonymous No.21359276]

>>21356734
>having never read Frost besides the two poems in high school

[Anonymous No.21359837]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.21360813]

I wrote a haiku a while ago and I'm going to try to turn it into a full cantos if I can.

Winter pepe
As the autumn ends
Frog lays down to rest again
Finally at peace

Also if cantos 69 isn't just the word "nice" I'm going to be disappointed

[Anonymous No.21360920]

can toes be a topic? im a foot fetish poet

[Anonymous No.21360922]

>>21349112

[Anonymous No.21361541]

>>21358991
It actually went pretty decent until it just lost steam.

[Anonymous No.21361565]

>>21360813
you have to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.21361573]

Does someone have a link to all the stuff that lit has written? I only have The Coronameron saved.

[Anonymous No.21361811]

>>21360920
Sure

>>21361573
ANNOTATED CLASSICS
>Moby-Dick by Herman Melville, a collaborative commentary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rbY7SQNd1-T15L89XyOVk0Ekm6gQz_rI4UFCPyVO-Jo/edit

MAGAZINES
>&amp: https://lampbylit.com/magazine/
>Ideology: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykeUJpSG13dG5Zalk
>The April Reader: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykODRFX2hfdVNQekk
>The Metric: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykRjNSQmRxQ3hrbFk
>Zine Writer's Guild: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykdHNUSzdEVlZGOEE
>Pinecone (00000): https://files.catbox.moe/cqy414.pdf
>Pinecone (00000 again): https://d182a970-4c7a-4707-a668-1069357878e0.filesusr.com/ugd/43a6e3_8fd5555ccca045608ef09f0243232c08.pdf
>Pinecone (10000): https://d182a970-4c7a-4707-a668-1069357878e0.filesusr.com/ugd/43a6e3_2c702f9b9bba4a2fbedd1f5b4c5bb515.pdf
>Pinecone (4/20): https://files.catbox.moe/yk172h.pdf

POETRY COLLECTIONS
>9gag only has four posters: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTtD6-Pqfg87wJ4NKwdjMxXGfXd1D9n0SNzX3Nun2KJ_8ePqY4ALAe_-kSlosuzaMovx-77TLOnTwA1/pub
>Poems by a nameless Irishman: https://4poet.tumblr.com/
>Sophisticated Rapping: https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Classics:Sophisticated_Rapping
>The Flyting Thread: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hGrs03hSeU3MHzC6drv0R7No7ZSl4MSb/view

STANDALONE WORKS
>A Walking Aphrodisiac: https://archive.org/details/AWalkingAphrodisiacByNicholasBlacksmith
>Coronameron: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0AOCE7OvTX90eYH3fllNyTXSYVj6_fu/view
>Hypersphere: https://monoskop.org/images/7/7e/Anonymous_Hypersphere.pdf
>L'anomie: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CVIcBJmk5IEvcu7zMI3SbLT82r5VgLmG/view
>Leftopia: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CTAVK9ikIb87kl8KUQjYhRjeXoWwDU2m/view
>Manifesto of Saint Marx and Pope Doug: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XYAIMWSa4afNDs-E6BTfAabfXUhbqp0NhQad3bLfAEQ/edit
>The Complete Works of God II: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AevE5EPkxt43E4kT5j_Twz4Gyq39XG_ACl0WjTn-a5c/edit
>Story of JLINGZ: https://pdfhost.io/v/okAHzuCnZ_JLINGZ_An_Biography_Of_A_Young_But_Talented_Youngster.pdf
>BURGERPUNK: https://burgerpunk.github.io/
>Project Nano/lit/: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1COym8YxM-c0Ql_BClQK45xy39Bx4ANjk/view

STANDALONE WORK DUMPS
>Hyperlit (seven works): https://lampbylit.com/magazine/hyperlit/
>Misc (ten works): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykZ1M2dDM3YVg4eHM

THE LAST BINGE EVER SERIES
>Volume I: https://markdumanon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/LondonFrog-The-Last-Binge-Ever-Vol.-1.pdf
>Volume II: https://burgerpunkhome.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/londonfrog-vol-2-final-draft.pdf
>Volume III: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cDyQ4AGISzKJsymNjDndc54KBxMlxbO9/view

THE TUNDRA SERIES
>Collection (Volumes I-III + Kolaski): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0aJnaOl7gykLS1IRjZialJ4RU0

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[Anonymous No.21361815]

>>21361811
>>20722344
THE /FFA/ ANTHOLOGIES
>Gifts Evil and Good: https://archive.org/details/gifts-good-and-evil
>Rags and Bones: https://archive.org/details/rags-and-bones
>Simian Deluxe: https://archive.org/details/simian-deluxe

CRITIQUE THREADS
>Critique Thread Compilation: >>>>>>/lit/thread/S17435133#p17448974
>Worst of /lit/: https://pastebin.com/GW4Kjt67

Things I'm still looking for:
-Spare Change and Other Stories
-Dreamscape

Partial mirror at: https://lampbylit.com/magazine/works/

I didn't compile this list BTW some other archive anon did

[Anonymous No.21361832]

>>21361811
>>21361815
thank you anon <3

[Anonymous No.21362251]

>>21360813
I hope you experience great and interminable suffering.

[Anonymous No.21362307]

People really should at least scan through a sample of Pound's cantos before posting their faggy ass haikus and meme poems. I can understand light hearted and satirical works but some of these are genuinely retarded.

[Anonymous No.21362317]

>>21361811
You missed this one in Standalone works:
>>/lit/thread/S20703306#p20703306

[Anonymous No.21362324]

i suck a writing, but good luck anons of /lit/

[Anonymous No.21363204]

not quite catching on, is it

[Anonymous No.21363210]

>>21362307
>>21363204
Pound cantos format is probably too restrictive honestly.

[Anonymous No.21363811]

>>21361811
>>21361815
The Lit Quarterly
Volume 1:
https://pdfhost.io/v/KEa7gwRTa_lit_quarterly_Margins_v1
Volume 2:
https://pdfhost.io/v/Tlh1w2BNG_2_Winter_2020_The_Lit_Quarterly_FINAL
Volume 3:
https://pdfhost.io/v/ufzSCiPUG_3_Spring_2020_The_Lit_Quarterly_FINAL
Volume 5:
https://pdfhost.io/v/.pyI8DvbW_KD_LitQuarterlyV5_v621indd

[Anonymous No.21365038]

>>21363204
We're at sixteen in less than a week, which isn't terrible.

[Anonymous No.21365044]

>>21349112
nice pinkies.
hope they're stinkies.

[Anonymous No.21365366]

>>21362251
I do every day, thank you

[Anonymous No.21365427]

Honestly, I believe /lit/ should collaboratively write a libretto. Writing an opera seems a lot more fun and open to collaborative effort than cantos.

[Anonymous No.21366308]

Bump

[Anonymous No.21366539]

This sounds fun. Definitely more interested in analyzing the poems upon completion, but I'll try to write something still.
A sampling of my analytical genius that I have shared on lit a year ago or so:
>>If Nausea was a terrifying look at a grim life come true, the book about the French Revolution was an exhilarating account of revolt and the power of the crowd.
First of all, obviously, it should say "If Nausea were..."
>But even more irritating is the following. That the book on the FR is an exhilarating account should be Ed's unconditional opinion. The state of the book on the FR is not dependant on the characteristics of Nausea, yet Waldun presents the following from the text: if Sartre had written Nausea any differently, the French Revolution would not be as interesting to Eddington. Furthermore, by Waldun's assertion, in the case where Nausea is not a terrifying look at a grim life come true (which I could argue to be the case; Ed is having an existential crisis sure, but he does not question his own existence), then this book on the French Revolution has no meaning to him, or more precisely, is not an exhilarating account of the revolt and the power of the crowd. Surely Wally was intending to highlight the strong effect this history book full of characters had on Eddington, but by doing so poorly, he is cosmicly entangling Ed's understanding of two unrelated books, and worse, he is stating the exact opposite of his perhaps intended assertion.

[Anonymous No.21366541]

>>21366539
>The tiger
A fearsome and yet majestic animal. Immediately, our imagination is seized. What is the tiger doing? Where is it? Or perhaps there's no specific tiger, and the author is talking about tigers in general. With just those 2 words, our mind has been flooded with images and questions that spring directly from our deepest and truest self. Such is Nael's mastery of the written word. He has us right where he wants us, intensely contemplating this hypothetical tiger and all that it represents...

>He destroyed his cage
While we were busy thinking about 'the tiger', he broke free of his man-made prison, asserting his reality and the urgency of now. At the same time, we're forcefully taken out of our mind and back to the present scene. Man locked the tiger in the cage so that he could safely retreat into himself, but that illusion has been shattered now. Or did we lock the tiger just so he could escape, and in so doing, save us from ourselves?

>Yes
The tiger roars. Our heart is beating furiously in our chest. Every muscle in our body is tensing as adrenaline levels go up and up. This is what it means to be alive. How could we ever have forgotten?

>YES
The tiger's roar grows louder, covering every other sound, the vibrations resonating through the air, the walls and even our own chest. We understand nature better than every philosopher ever did. This is what Evola must have been looking for when he went for a walk during the bombing raids of Vienna.

>The tiger is out
The last verse, with the lack of action and material references, is a return to the linguistic ambiguity of the first. After the crescendo from verse 2-4, there's a moment of silence, and it's as if the border between reality and our mind has been blurred. We're left wondering if there was ever actually a tiger, or if it was just a projection of our desire for freedom. Are we free now? But there's also something vaguely ominous about this verse. Was Nael trying to warn us about the danger inherent in the spirit-soul duality?

[Anonymous No.21367248]

>>21366541
>>21366539
wait are you the one that wrote this? I remember reading this both in the Coronameron and the annotated Moby-Dick. Good shit

[Anonymous No.21367413]

the pissant cantos

[Anonymous No.21368253]

>>21367248
L'Académie was after both of those but yeah I wrote them and put the Tiger analysis in Moby-Dick