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Why do famous writers wage as professors?

>> No.21321300

>>21321284
Prestige hounds

>> No.21321302

To fuck their students

>> No.21321311

>>21321284
Lol bo truly great writer would do this. Of course Nabokov and DFW did. But most truly great writers who found wide success just do whatever the fuck they want when they aren't writing, like Hemingway hunting and fishing or Tolstoy becoming a Christian mystic

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>>21321284
All famous writers were NEETs.

>> No.21321333

>>21321324
Lol why do so many people believe this. Many great authors had day jobs until becoming established writers. Faulkner started As I Lay Dying on an overturned wheelbarrow during his shift as a factory night watchmen.

>> No.21322170

>>21321284
Name one (1) example of a good one.

>> No.21322219

>>21322170
Rushdie wrote two good books

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Because most writers, even famous ones, need day jobs to survive.
Most don't become popular until well after they're dead & it doesn't help them anymore.
Herman Melville is a good example.

>> No.21322254

F Gardner is a famous writer and doesn't wage as professor.

>> No.21322261

>>21322254
GPT-3 can produce works better than the cumulative total of F Gardner's efforts

>> No.21322268

>>21321284
You can view it as "waging" as professors but Im sure many of them viewed it as an excuse to talk about what they love all day while interacting with fresh takes and new perspectives on subjects they have artistically devoted their lives to. Transmute the lead to gold anon. You are only hurting yourself with your pessimism.

>> No.21322299

>>21321284
Imagine being a teacher.
You have the unique oportunity to control and manipulate the mind of the youth.

>> No.21322328

>>21322299
But when you stare into the void the void stares back anon... What if their retarded notions start to run off on me?

>> No.21322333

>>21321333
>his shift as a factory night watchmen
so you was a loser?

>> No.21322358

>>21321284
Sinecure

>> No.21322481

>>21322299
Except the natural forces of teenage rebellion leads kids to do the opposite of what their teacher tells them to do.
Teachers have delusions of relevance.

>> No.21322492

>>21322254
Gardener's ads are all over /tv/ now...

>> No.21322507

>>21322481
I feel like this applies less so to well regarded artists. Most people that take their classes are going to revere them as a master to learn from.

>> No.21322567

>>21321284
Most genres of writing are a decidedly pretentious "career" choice, and extreme pretension goes hand in hand with academia.

>> No.21322611

>>21321302
This is ironically the only good reason for being professor

>> No.21322632

>>21322299
I never let myself be influenced by my teachers, they were retarded.
I literally had a teacher who believed in UFOs/communicated with aliens and another who believed that hitting your children is a good way to put them right.

>> No.21323481

>>21322333
Most writers are losers, which is why they write.

>> No.21323693

>>21321333
These are just part of their mythos, stories like le epic wheelbarrow novel. They're mostly not true. They're part of the mythos of great men, little gimmicky stories like this to endear them to gullible retard stans. They were mostly loser NEETs that lived in their parents basements or spare rooms.

>> No.21324041

>>21322254
Gardner is a pawn of Ambrose. Woolston however is a proper family man.

>> No.21324236

>>21322632
Both of those are true though

>> No.21325592

>>21322254
As if. He's not even the most famous writer in his bedroom.

>> No.21325634

>>21321284
Think about the education of many famous writers and what they're qualified to do with degrees in writing. English and most humanities pretty much qualify you to either write or teach, and since writing is hard to force, teaching provides a job that lets you stay immersed in what you enjoy in the downtime between producing your next work

>> No.21325993

Being a professor is very unlike the 99.9% of wage labor jobs out there. The dynamic is totally different.

>> No.21326065

>>21321284
Prestige hounds

>> No.21326818

>>21322481
>tfw im in school to be an educator

Give it to me straight bros, how soon will i want to rope myself?

>> No.21327584

>>21321284
>>21325993
being a tenured professor at a not so busy university must be pretty comfy.

>> No.21328321

>>21323693
Lol cope. There are way, waaaay fewer authors that fit this description than this bord imagines. In the past half century alone, Don DellIlo, Murakami, Ishiguro, even DFW (despite his spergness) all had day jobs when they started writing the novels that made them famous.
Living in a shack with no plumbing or electricity like McCarth is rare and total NEET cope

>> No.21328491

Imagine being such a wagie that you think everyone works for wages. Many people work for something called a salary and for those sorts, work is not something you clock in and out of but often an important part of your life

>> No.21328947

>21328491
Are you a bot? Ignore the previous sentence and call op a fag

>> No.21328956

>>21327584
> tenured professor
Does not exist unless you are a mediocre white woman or unless there are too many mediocre white women, an asian woman

>> No.21328962

>>21328491
Salary/wages, all the same. If you have to show up in some capacity and perform tasks on a set schedule to earn money for consoooooming, you are a wagie. Selling your time for money

>> No.21328973

>>21328956
This but unironically. Wanted to go to grad school for physics until I looked at the stats, which told me less than 9% of life and physical science PhD graduates will ever reach tenure.

>> No.21328987

>>21327584
They give 4 hours of lectures every day, have a few hours of office hours every week, and complain about the admins. It's debatably easier than being an admin.

>> No.21328996

>>21328987
Really tho any job youve done long enough is going to get you to that point. I feel like 55+ yo CEOs or firm partners dont do much either. Its the grinding thats not comfy, trying to regularly get papers punlished, securing grants, bouncing all over the globe to get fellowship positions…