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Well /lit/?

>> No.21301548

i read manga by woman

>> No.21301551

what are the real world implications

>> No.21301553

Because women are stupid and weak.

>> No.21301556

>>21301543
I read Tove Jansson. Only plebs still read shit like Rupi Kaur or overrated poet #82582546.

>> No.21301560

the last short story I read by atwood was three pages long and was about how men are compelled to rape women. This is what it takes to be a prizewinning author in canada folks

>> No.21301569

>>21301560
Well, we are, but the issue is how little she has to say about it. Women write endlessly about rape, yet they never push the envelope or offer any insight.

>> No.21301571

>>21301543
I wouldn't even read a cookbook written by a woman.

>> No.21301574

i really enjoyed atlas shrugged by ayn rand

>> No.21301578

>>21301569
I mean what “insight” can you really give about rape

>> No.21301579

Typical actual bullshit. I haven’t been n this board for ages and this is the first shit I see….? Fuck off

>> No.21301584

>>21301569
the problem was such an obviously trashy political statement was considered powerful enough to include in an anthology collection

oryx and crake was also assigned reading garbage. Atwood is a Canadian icon only because this country has mediocre talent

>> No.21301585

>>21301578
That it makes women come harder than grinding a sybian while sucking off a 10-incher on livestream to a million people

>> No.21301596

>>21301585
dangerously based

>> No.21301604

>>21301551
probably some made-up nonsense

>> No.21301611

>>21301551
There probably aren't any. Most of these articles make retarded hyperbolic claims which are strung together by non sequiturs. I read an article today from NBC titled something like "Tarantino's words are offensive to Women". Basically, Tarantino said we are currently "the worst era for movies ever". The NBC writer went off on a complete tangent to rant about there aren't any women directors and Tarantino is being a misogynist to women directors by saying films suck now. It was weird and had nothing to do with what Tarantino said. But it has all the right buzzwords and the "correct" political spin to get clicks.

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she also wrote this piece of peak pseud claiming the entirety of Canadian literature is a reflection of trying to survive in a harsh wilderness environment. Academia and snobby CBC book clubs still reference it

imagine having a feminazi infamously known for belittling the people around her at speaking events, while also being completely unread outside of the institutions, be the face of Canadian literature (TM). That's canada, right up there with David Suzuki

>> No.21301628

>>21301585
ok

>> No.21301630

>>21301627
That book isn't by MA Sieghart, the author of the article in the OP picture. Ask me how I know you're from /pol/.

>> No.21301632

>>21301630
this thread is exclusively about Atwood being an institutionally promoted old crone and you know it

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>>21301627
Everybody laugh at Canada now! ho ho ho! fucking lmao!

>> No.21301645

>>21301543
I read books by women just not a*glo women

>> No.21301682

Direct from the wikipedia entry on Survival:
>To Atwood, the central image of Canadian literature, equivalent to the image of the island in British literature and the frontier in American literature, is the notion of survival and its central character the victim. Atwood claims that both English and French novels, short stories, plays and poems participate in creating this theme as the central distinguishing feature of the nation's literature.
>The central image of the victim is not static; according to Atwood four "Victim Positions" are possible (and visible in Canadian literature). These positions are outlined below.
>Position One: To deny the fact that you are a victim.This is a position in which members of the "victim-group" will deny their identity as victims, accusing those members of the group who are less fortunate of being responsible for their own victimhood.
>Position Two: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim (but attribute it to a powerful force beyond human control such as fate, history, God, or biology.)In this position, victims are likely to resign themselves to their fate.
>Position Three: To acknowledge the fact that you are a victim but to refuse to accept the assumption that the role is inevitable.This is a dynamic position in which the victim differentiates between the role of victim and the experience of victim.
>Position Four: To be a creative non-victim.A position for "ex-victims" when creativity of all kinds is fully possible.

anyone wanting an accurate representation of the melodramatic state-sponsored industry that is "canadian literature" should refer to the parody chapter in how to be a canadian by will ferguson. Fuck this country

>> No.21301693

>>21301543
>Reading what some kike has to say

>> No.21301703

because reading literature is and always has been a feminine activity and most men are just too male brained to even want to be in a woman's headspace ever. most women could save themselves a lot of butthurt if they realized that this type of shit makes them coom and be at peace with it.

>> No.21301713

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVeGcfpn1Y4
Here's a random video that popped on top of the page when I searched "what I read in 2021". I went through it at 2x. Literally all of the books she read are by female authors, for whatever reason half of them featuring shitless dudes on a cover
Selection bias, right? Lets see another random selection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDMizxEsjDs
Again, nearly all of the books here are female writers with a couple of what I assume are brown people through in for the flavor. All yt male classics appear in the "worst" section, predictably

Point is, the fuck are women pretending that its a man issue when they show the exact, or even worse, tendency to read only their own gender?
At least my reason to stick with penis writers is logical - women can't fucking write. Women read women simply because they share genital areas.

>> No.21301719

>>21301543
massage a knee

>> No.21301723

>>21301556
Tove is great, she was the first female writer that came to my mind
The second one was Camille Paglia, who is ironically read more by men than by women

>> No.21301732

>>21301543
Flannery O'Connor

>> No.21301735

>>21301551
The distortion of male perspective in regard to the history of fiction and the quality of female writing, I guess? The narrowing/ignorance of the male viewpoint in regard to stories portraying highly specific and subjective non-male experiences? If you value those things I suppose it’s important to care about those disproportionate statistics. I guess I care about this to an extent but I am confident the average lit user could not give less of a shit.

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>>21301551
An autistic attempt at actually answering:
Suppose that phenomenological experience between men and women are actually distinct, in some part. Suppose then, only women writers can express this phenomenology clearly. The only way to glean a glance at these facets of the manifold of experience you don't have access to then, is to read works by women.
If we grant this, let us suppose another thing.
Suppose that policy should be fair. Suppose then that policy can affect different phenomenological points of view differently. Here comes the impact:
If policy makers don't read works written by women then those policies risk being unfair. Now let us bring it into the real world.
Without reading women, congressmen will make laws that don't consider the female perspective and thus will not be fair to the female perspective. One example policy would be the one of abortion, without understanding female perspective, we can only imagine abortion from the point of view of the prospective child and prospective father, and not from the prospective mother. Thus our policies may favor women unfairly as children are half/half women/men and fathers are always men. So we have 3:1 men:women honoring policy (at worst)
Other things that may be affected: technical standards being defined in accordance with the typically stronger and taller men, leading to cupboards having shelves potentially inaccessible to the primary kitchen worker. Women having greater access to disposable income in single income homes, leading to consumer products development targeting female only insecurities, such as skin clarity, or cultural expression through clothing, or camera technology developed to manipulate women more strongly to gain power over their culture.
Some of these things are less impactful as a whole than others, but I hope it's clear here that if the above suppositions are correct, even somewhat, there are downsides at the individual organism level and new avenues to exert power at the organization organism level. Bad for you, good for The Man.
Picrel: me

>> No.21301753

>>21301735
if you're interested in newspaper pot-stirring pieces you're essentially trolling yourself

>> No.21301789

>>21301574
Also the Fountainhead and We the Living.
Anthem was basically 2112 in book form.

>> No.21301795

Because the absolute best of anything doesn't consist of women.

>> No.21301806
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21301806

Why do so few women (none) have sex with me?

I'll start reading books by women when women start having sex with me.

>> No.21301818

>>21301806
Chicken, or egg?

>> No.21301879

I don't read many books by women because women are generally weak, stupid, whiny, and narcissistic to the point of solipsism. If their book isn't just plain bad, and they have some innate talent for expression or an interesting inner life, it will still be narcissistic and solipsistic most of the time. All their talent will be applied to talking about themselves in one way or another, and their inner life always turns out to be hedonistic and lacking any form of self-transcendence.

In the rare case a woman's book is good, I'll read it. But even the best ones, relative to women's abilities, are often still boring to me. Most of the time this is because, even when a woman manages to transcend her own easy mode habitus, and has talent, and somehow manages not to apply that talent entirely to talking about her own materialistic, dick-filled fishbowl of a life, even when she clears all these hurdles, often she will still only talk about utterly banal, bourgeois, late modern frames of reference. Like a derivative, decadent depiction of a Roman emperor's life, with neither the campy fun of Graves' Claudius nor the polysemic irreducibility of Ibsen's Julian. Or even worse, just endless social realism as bourgeois social commentary.

Thus even woman writers so far out on their gender's mile-high bell curve of ability still barely rise above a "pretty good" male contemporary's second or third best book. The vast majority of them make it to the plateau of

Women simply lack the instinct and the desire for true transcendence. They are generally comfortable with life as it is. When they do have lots of talent by some freak accident, they squander it on being the third-best Flaubert or Dickens imitator of their generation, "pretty good for a woman, don't you think!," or they crash and burn into "ironic" meta-commentary on their own shallowness and hedonism. Or they write sentimental short story slice of life crap that seems only to interest other women. Women are very good visualizers, and seem to enjoy watching quaint little domestic stories about quaint dowdy women in their heads like movies. I don't think that's literature.

When was the last time you heard a woman say something truly intelligent or groundbreaking, that she came up with on her own? The same principle applies to their books. They just have nothing to say, most of the time. They talk about themselves, they write sappy saccharine go-nowhere stories about quirky people, they write adequate social realism that "demonstrates how hard life was in the Dustbowl!!," like I give a fuck about any of that, that shit is for busybody social activists and television-watchers.

The only people who actively (as opposed to incidentally) read woman writers are midwits and degenerated men who think the female mind is fascinating just because it's innately sensuous, hedonistic, and presentist, basically dionysian and bacchic without any shame or guilt, and they wish they could be that depraved.

>> No.21301883

>>21301879
>The vast majority of them make it to the plateau of breakout book-tier self-confessional social criticism and never leave it.
Fixed.

>> No.21301903

>>21301543
Because they're garbage.

>> No.21301930

I’m a man who enjoyed the Austen and Brontë I’ve read, and I enjoyed Frankenstein as well, but I’m not gonna read modern YA tier novels about the female experience or other bullshit, sorry.

>> No.21301932

>>21301548
This is something i noticed about Nips. Their women seem to be competent and not just in the arts. Female developers are a joke in the West while Female Japanese programmers are actually technically proficient. And of course Genji Monogatari was written by a woman too. And they are a lot more patriarchal than we are so it cannot be that.

>> No.21301937

>>21301932
Japs are superhuman level competent at everything though, it could just be a relative advantage. 14 year old Japs doing rough sketches of robot inflation porn make 100x better art than the best robot inflation artist in the entire west. I bet japs even shit more efficiently than us.

>> No.21301943

>>21301543
I tend to only read geniuses, people on the extreme end of intelligence or creativity. At that level, it's about 100 males to every 1 female, so that's about the split in authors I read.

>> No.21301953

>>21301713
Wow, women are cringe. My girlfriend does this stuff too, she goes "I finished another book today!" and it's invariably some trashy romance that she instantly forgets about 5 minutes after finishing. It's just so shallow.

>> No.21301963

>>21301543
Because most are garbage. No man is against reading George Elliott or Alice Munro, but how many female writers are at that level?

>> No.21302008

>>21301963
Carson McCullers
Flannery O’Conner
Toni Morrison (yes, fuck you)
Anna Kavan
Sylvia Plath
Joyce Carol Oates
Isabelle Allende

>> No.21302015

>>21302008
anglo apoetic bs

>> No.21302019

>>21302008
>Carson McCullers
>Flannery O’Conner
>Toni Morrison
They are pretty good.
>Anna Kavan
Never heard of her.
>Sylvia Plath
>Joyce Carol Oates
You must be baiting.
>Isabelle Allende
Oh, you're definitely baiting.

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Andre Norton is the only great female author. If other women want the same respect, they should write better.

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Guilty as charged. When I go to buy a book I always check the author and look them up. If it's a woman, the book goes right back on the shelf. I have read plenty of books and I can safely say I have never read a single book in my life written by a woman.- and never will.

>> No.21302116

>>21301806
Based Chudcel.

>> No.21302143

>>21301543
It cannot be denied.

>> No.21302145

>>21301543
I’ve always been very happy reading male authors.
And isn’t my happiness all that really matters?

>> No.21302176

>>21301543
Most women do not write the kind of stories I'm interested in reading. However I have read and enjoyed many books by women.

>> No.21302189

>>21302008
>Isabelle Allende
do gringos really...? lmao

>> No.21302199

I think men just dont find the following entertaining

>werewolf billionaire Schlick fantasies
>ah bloo bloo bloo men are providing for me properly
>ah bloo bloo bloo men aren’t kissing my arse properly
>girl twirls light saber better than boys, girls rule boys drool
>scolding men for having fun while women are forced to wear burkas in Afghanistan
>just plain scolding men in general
>virtue signaling
>mom and dad cut off my trust fund now I have to camwhore for my daily avocado toast and eightball of coke
>feelings. An entire fucking book of feelings

And unfortunately that is most of women’s published books today

>> No.21302272

I enjoyed Pride and Prejudice and The Wuthering Heights
I got filtered by To The Lighthouse

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21302544

why should I feel even remotely compelled to read things like atwood's low-brow smutty persecution fantasy?

what possible reason is there for me to stop and read that when I have stuff like ovid's metamorphoses and dostoyevsky's crime and punishment sitting on my shelf in my backlog still?

there is literally no justification for this

>> No.21302638

>>21301937
They do shit more efficiently than us.
The Asian-style squat toilet is an absolute spine-emptying experience.
You have not shitted, until you have mastered the Japanese toilet.

>> No.21302647

>>21302638
redpill me on slant ultrashitting

>> No.21302665

>>21301548
Based.
Kaoru Mori singlehandedly changed my mind on the romanticized 19th century.

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>>21301543
Women tend to deal with subjects differently than men, and to gravitate to subjects different than men. Unsurprisingly, an intrinsically feminine perspective on a given subject resonates more with women than with men.

It also has to do with the current tone and subject material of most modern female authors. It is generally preachy, jaded, and propagandically manufactured to infuse some sense of moral superiority (in the sympathetic audience) or guilt (in the target audience - which is typically straight men). This is obviously alienating, in the sense that no man who isn't a masochistic subservient is likely to read more than one or two of those works - even if he is exceptionally open minded. Therefore, the majority of current female authors would likely be pushed aside.

For my part, despite enjoying the writing of some women, I am far more skeptical when looking into a work by a modern woman than that of a man - in the sense of whether to expect some sort of gender justice fueled agenda - and therefore, whether to avoid the work altogether.

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I could engage with this clickbait quackery and devote precious mental resources to feeding it, but instead I have recognised what the OP and the article is trying to do and I detach myself from it completely, leaving only this whimsical image.

Join me my friends, and let us be free of being cogs in the manufactured outrage clickbait machine. Disregard the poor souls who have let their fragile minds become colonised by its malicious influence.

>> No.21302684

>>21301879
Pretentious, but at least clear.

>> No.21302689

>>21302647
A sitting position puts strain on your anus, as well as leaving your colon at a slight angle.
by entering the full squat, your anus can completely relax, and your colon is kept vertical, minimizing chance of compactions.
master the art of squat shitting, and you will never strain or push again.

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>>21301548
basado

>> No.21302699

>>21301543

They know perfectly well that men aren't interested in what woman have to say in general, and aren't interested to read romance narratives from a woman's point of view in particular.

>> No.21302718

>>21301543
men shouldn't read any books. they're slave-gorillas, why bother educating expendible servants?

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>>21301548
Jap women are great writers

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>>21302718
why did women fight for the right to be slave-gorillas?

>> No.21302743

>>21301543
Unable to empathize

>> No.21302744

>>21302734

They look like fucking legos lmao

>> No.21302747

>>21302734
>a monkey is speaking to me while posting angloid swamp goblins
go tar a roof or something, scrote.

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>>21302747
thanks for the feedback corporate powerpoint girlboss

>> No.21302761

>>21302754
spoiler that shit, that bitch forehead needs its own diaper. even as ugly as she is she'll still never fuck you.

I haven't done 10 minutes of work at my job in the last month and I still pull paychecks. meanwhile scrote-gorillas are worked like slaves for minimum wage performing manual labor. That's your natural place.

>> No.21302767

>>21302744
>legos
I literally lol'ed!

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>>21301879
>When was the last time you heard a woman say something truly intelligent or groundbreaking
I genuinely dont think this has ever happened to me, though I definitely dont hate women for it or hold it against them like many closet homosexuals do

>> No.21302775

>>21302761
>woman
>doesn't work
You're just helping the mysogynists brainiac. You're definitely not the kind of woman whose opinion would be respected here, nor the kind with any capacity to rule.

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>>21302761
thank you for your feedback as a leech to society as you read YA in your cat piss apartment

>> No.21302787

>>21301543
Atwood is the only female author I've read that I hated. I could only get halfway through handmaids tale.

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>>21301879

>> No.21302809

>>21302761
you're trying too hard

>> No.21302811

>>21301879
Ouch. You're definitely right.
Just don't become a womanhating retard because they can't help their nature.

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>>21301879
Undeniably and dangerously based

>> No.21302851

>>21301543
I liked Gone Girl because it was written by a woman who knew and wrote about how terrible women can be.

>> No.21302876

>>21301574
trans btw

>> No.21302890

>>21301543
Many of them are absolute shit about how they want to fuck a werewolf... or a billionaire... or a cowboy... or a Navy SEAL.

>> No.21302972

>>21302876
Stop larping.

>> No.21303009

>>21301548
Sangatsu No Lion is both my favorite manga and anime. It has the most realistic and gorgeous character development I've seen from either medium. Female manga writers are really something else

>> No.21303016

>>21301548
It's weird that japanese female manga authors are much better than their male counterparts

>> No.21303020

>>21302890
To be fair this would also be true about many novels by men - just less directly relationally oriented most times.

>> No.21303023

>>21303016
Not even true, but most manga and anime in general are trash, both as art and as literature.

>> No.21303046

>>21301630
He didn't reply to OP, take a breath and reread.

>> No.21303054

>>21301543
Recently I got in some hot water because the references of my paper featured something like 45 men and no women. I calmly had to explain to the women critiquing me that no woman has yet contributed to the field.

>> No.21303062

>>21301553
This but unironically. Women barely understand themselves, 95% of the world is a complete mystery to them.

>> No.21303091

>>21303062
Have you checked/lit/.

>> No.21303124

>>21301543
Men write literature, women write literature written by women.

>> No.21303125

>>21301932
>Genji Monogatari was written by a woman
>and so was most Rance games

Hmmmmm....

>> No.21303133

>>21303054
What field?

>> No.21303158

>>21301543
The amount of good male writers outnumbers good female writers by so much that the disparity is probably the largest in any artistic medium. Maybe only cinema has a greater disparity.

>> No.21303159

Because there aren't many women writers like Emily Bronte

>> No.21303174

>>21303158
Cinema definitely has the largest gender disparity when it comes to greatness. Virtually all of the greatest directors are men. The most acclaimed female director of the 20th century was a Nazi and only made documentaries. There are a handful of good female directors but nowhere near the significance of male directors. Literature at least has some canonized female writers like the Brontes, Austen and Woolfe, meanwhile cinema’s “greatest” women are literal military propagandists like Kathryn Bigelow and Nazis like the aforementioned Riefenstahl. Notice the trend there? Women can’t be good directors most of the time because it requires authoritative command, something they’re very bad at.

>> No.21303192

>>21301543
I will never read anything written by a woman, ever. Letting a woman's ideas into your mind is the equivalent of letting her peg you and make you the woman.
When women talk I only hear the Charlie Brown noises that the adults make.

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>>21303192
By this logic shouldn't you forbid your woman from reading books written by men besides yourself?

>> No.21303201

>>21303197
And reading books written by men yourself is basically the equivalent of letting yourself get pounded in the ass by the author.

>> No.21303207

The last book I read that was written by a woman was a german history of Yugoslavia. Before that a book about the application of cybernetics to economics in Chile during Allende. I don't give a fuck about the sex of the author, either the book is interesting or it isn't.
(Non-genre) Fiction written by women isn't interesting because I'm unable to relate, I lack the socialisation and the biology to do that. Reading Bronte gave me nothing, Wuthering Heights is still a complete mystery to me but one I don't care about so I don't have a reason to solve it. Atwoods Oryx and Crake was an okay read, but that's science fiction.

>> No.21303286

>>21303133
It doesn't really have an established english term, but translated it would be something like "the history of the technique of media" or "the history of medial techniques". Basically it's the study of certain cultural objects like books or computers.

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>>21301543
Because I hate women.

>> No.21303307

>>21303286
I'm pretty sure Le Guin wrote about something at least remotely related. Get familiar with her non-fiction work simply so you can always quote at least one woman.

>> No.21303322

>>21303192
Emily Brontë pegged me and I liked it. No apologies.

>> No.21303343

>>21303192
This somehow comes across as gay. Like, such a fear of gayness that he couldn't possibly not be gay. Like, if everywhere you look, all you see is gayness - you're probably gay, right? Lol.

>> No.21303382

>>21303307
I could, but why would I?

>> No.21303412

>>21303382
You seem to be a moaning bitch so you really shouldn't.

>> No.21303415

>>21301543
If you have ever listened to a woman tell you what happened and then compared it to how a man tells you, then you would know the answer to this.

>> No.21303432

>ask classmates what they're researching
>male classmates are all researching fascinating, unique, or at least ambitious things
>woman: "Misogyny in Rome"
>woman: "Misogyny and Hamlet"
>woman: "The intersection of misogyny and periods in Hamlet"
>woman: "Women"
>woman: "Opinions about women having sex in Weimar newspapers"
>woman: "Women in the work of Robert Musil"
>woman: "Vagina"
>woman: "I have a vagina"
>woman: "I'm a woman btw. Vagina here"
>woman: "Sex and periods in gender"
>woman: "Woman perceptions of woman, ,vagina, cooters breasts woman period I'm on my period clitorises in the work of the band Oingo Boingo and Hamlet's Perception of Clitoris Vagina Gender Studies"
>woman: "Queering Gender in Medieval Manuscripts: Your period or MY period?"
>woman: "Misogyny, Periods, and You: Ernst Cassirer on Substance, Function, and My Gay Love Affair with Gender Studies"
>woman: "Women in 'Woman's Work': Gendering Gender in the Social Sciences"
>woman: "Prostitution and Gender in Antebellum Calcutta"
>woman: "Gender"
>woman: "Sex and gender studies"
>woman: "Tampons, pads, and ironclads: Stonewall Jackson and Freebleeding"
>woman: "Einstein contra Bergson: Who rapes me more by having existed?"

>> No.21303450

>>21301879
>even when she clears all these hurdles, often she will still only talk about utterly banal, bourgeois, late modern frames of reference.

This, in particular, is unimpeachably true.

>> No.21303454

>>21301713
>shitless dudes

Underrated.

>> No.21303460

>>21303432
HAHAHAHA! YES!! This captures the modern essence PERFECTLY! I'm in tears.

>> No.21303462

>>21303412
I just think it would be disingenuous to cite women merely by virtue of them being women. I'd rather be honest about what texts have impacted me. And the reality is that women, in general, do not write texts that I, a man, find interesting or illuminating.

>> No.21303467

>>21303382
This person >>21303307 >>21303412 is not >>21303133 me, btw. Your field sounded novel to me.

>> No.21303476

>>21301543
Not a lot of women write the type of books I like to read.

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>>21303432
>Einstein contra Bergson: Who rapes me more by having existed?

Never fails to get me no matter how many times I see it lol

>> No.21303494

>>21301543
Women don't tend to write about stuff I'm interested about. Point me to a woman who has something interesting to say about epistemology, or means of dealing/understanding the unavoidable suffering and hardship that comes with life, or overscrupulous guilty consciences, or profound alienation from your fellow men, and I will give it a shot.

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>>21302673
Perfect post.

>> No.21303511

>>21301543
Dear profound misogynists:

Does it diminish with age? This burning fire that flares the moment I see one's face, let alone once they've opened their mouths a regurgitated the ready-made societal norms which are the sole nutriment on which their minds 'subsist'?

>> No.21303516

>>21301548
This. I enjoy Rumiko Takahashi, Kaoru Mori and Hiromu Arakawa just fine.

>> No.21303667

>>21303494
The Heart is a Lonely Hunger by Carson McCullers
We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson.

>> No.21303676

>>21303667
*Hunter

>> No.21303680

Women don't write interesting stories. It's all love triangles and sappy family drama. Oh, boo hoo, my mommy doesn't love me enough. Boo hoo hoo, I want to know my father better but I stubbornly refuse to actually do the obvious thing and fucking talk to him, I must do things in a roundabout way for hundreds of pages. Woe is me, which man will I fuck, the millionaire brain surgeon or the millionaire bad boy? I know, both!

>> No.21303689

Maybe I'm blinded by this as a man, but most books written by men feel "universal", women can read it as well and get just as much value while books written by women is centered around the female experience

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>>21301560
I've never read her, but my favourite writer is a Canadian woman. Guess I'm invulnerable to this criticism.

>> No.21303697

>>21301543
Yes, I read books by women. I try to avoid femoids. Modern female books are shit, but it wasn't always like this.

There are many good books by females in medieval times. Mostly christian. A few buddhist and hinduist. It's just a matter of dyor.

>> No.21303706

Once you’re out of school, you can read whatever you want. Or not read whoever you don’t want. You don’t have to impose affirmative action quotas to your reading. And even if you do get sick of reading white men exclusively, you can branch out and read male Greeks and Catholics from time to time.

>> No.21303836

>>21303697
Like Heloise?

>> No.21303854

>>21301963
Flannery is, and I'm a big fan of Fleur Jaeggy, thought comparing her to those writers feels weird because she writes weird.

>> No.21303855

>>21301543
I dont have anything against female authors (because I have not read them kek) it just so happens that for whatever reason when I become interested in a book it just so happens to not have been written by a woman. I dont intentionaly avoid them, their books just dont pique my interest.

Like why would I seek out to read a female author when I still have not read most of the works from authors like Kafka,Tolstoy,Cervantes,Nabokov,Dostoevsky I will read female authors once I have time and that may or may not ever happen.

>> No.21303859

>>21302761
>even as ugly as she is she'll still never fuck you.
Your post is so low IQ it hurts. lol.

>> No.21303884

whenever they say "men don't read women" the unstated thing is "they don't read CONTEMPORARY women"

nigga, I don't even read contemporary men

all the classics still to go, like fuck i'm gonna waste my time with some literal who

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>>21303836
Yes, and also:
Hildegard of Bingen
Hadewijch
Frances of Rome
Marguerite d'Oingt
Marguerite Porete
Catherine of Siena
Catherine of Genoa
Julian of Norwich
Mechthild of Magdeburg
Gertrude of Helfta
Beatrice of Nazareth
Teresa of Avila
Jeanne Guyon
Tullia d'Aragona
Louise Labé
Christine de Pizan
Akka Mahadevi
Yeshe Tsogyal

>> No.21303952

>>21301932
>Their women seem to be competent and not just in the arts.
You are stupid. You only get this impression because Japanese society is more systematically cucked to its foundations than Western ones so women have an easier time manipulating men to their advantage.

>> No.21303964

>>21301548
>>21301932
>>21302665
>>21302695
>Kaoru Mori
>>21302723
>>21303009
>>21303016
>>21303516
mtf trans btw if that matters

>> No.21304018

>>21301543
>we want to be FREE to do this!
>OK, do it
>NOOOOOO! You have to pay us attention while we do it!
Women are literal children

>> No.21304075

>>21302647
Google “the squatty potty”

They have a whole video that explains the problem with sit shitting

>> No.21304153

>>21301879
Male writers are narcissistic too but it usually comes with self loathing. Women do not have the capacity for self reflection. Women externalize their narcissism.

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>>21301543
>implying

>> No.21304163

>>21304153
>externalize their narcissism
Can you give me an example? I'm struggling to imagine what you mean.

>> No.21304197

>>21303432
Perfect

>> No.21304244

>>21303046
I suggest you do the same. "She also wrote..." GEE I WONDER WHAT THAT ALSO COULD BE IN REFERENCE TOO???? SURELY IT'S NOT THE ARTICLE QUOTED IN THE OP????

>> No.21304256

>>21303697
>>21303836
>>21303931
>>21302008
>>21302111
>>21304157
Is this stuff really any good? Anything more you could say to motivate me to read this?. By ‘good’ I mean I want to be obliterated by a type of real femininity that actually seems unconditional. Like Shakespeare’s Venus and Adonis, I can’t read regular romance or I’ll start self inserting as the girl, I need a type of romance where the woman is like a spider subduing her boy prey, and this is important because I need a cosmic drop of the original source that femininity derives from in its most pure state as a I’ve already conquered and attached true value to existence through maleness when no man could, preferably written by a woman so I can rest in the believability of the fantasy more. It seems this doesn’t exist, but it would be the sweetest thing, like a true piscean fantasy where we don’t have to hide anymore from big daddy. I’m not just saying this to ramble I need this to be real so bad. It’s gotten so bad I’ve started listening to intense feminine hypnosis just to be connected to the cosmic drop. Girls have always liked me everywhere I went but they just don’t have any reality for me, I need a woman, but im loosing hope if such a thing even exists. It’s gotten so bad I feel physical pains of jealousy when I see the effects on estrogen on the body.

>> No.21304264

Nearly every single book by women is the same shit
>buckteeth Judy goes about her day when local gigaChad criminal drug dealer falls in love with her and buys her puppies and buys her a house and gives her jewelery and....
why the fuck would a man read this shit

>> No.21304294

>>21301746
Great read anon, I love this post! Made me think about my status in society in respect to women, hell I might even read more women made books. Stuff like this really does have an impact anon, remeber.

>> No.21304332

>>21304256
um, meds?

>> No.21304450

>>21301543
>data shows men are reluctant to read women
I am reluctant to read any modern shit. I haven't finished with the Greeks yet, and I prefer non-fiction to fiction.

>> No.21304463

>>21301627
This country is embarrassing

>> No.21304473

>>21301879
Which are good then?

What is true transcendence ?

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>>21301627
Seems correct tbqfh.

>> No.21304540

>>21301543
I'll read the Brontes someday. And I've read some good manga by women.
But generally women don't write stuff that interests me.

>> No.21304548

>>21301543
On one hand, blame men, kill all men, write them as the prime evil in every imaginable subject, "not for you", "you don't get it anyway", no men wanted, kick men from every gathering.
On the other hand, why don't men read our books.
A captivating yet typical woman moment.

>> No.21304568

>>21301543
Why do so few women write books worth reading by men?

>> No.21304575

>plebs are poorly read
>a toxic fan culture can kill your total market domination
They shouldn't be so down; it can only ruin your market about as much as 4chan's anime fanboying can ruin anime's destiny, which is not much.

>> No.21304585

>>21304568
Very few are real lesbians who understand rejection by women like you do.

>> No.21304608

>>21304548
Seems like a pretty balanced and level-headed response.

>> No.21304616

>>21301548
95% of manga written by nip men is wish fulfillment dogshit for depressed and lonely office workers in either 1. a high school romance setting (because they missed out on it) or 2. reincarnation/isekai where the main character has everything handed to him

on the other hand probably only about 80% of manga written by nip women fall to similar escapist categories, so if only by that virtue alone they already are superior

there are like 10x more male authors though, so the total number of read-worthy manga is still higher for men, even if you have to weed through more trash

>> No.21304646

>>21304608
He's exaggerating for shock value, however, similar processes have happened in other media (not so much in books, I beleive). Chastise your predominatly male fandom and then blame men when they refuse to watch your movie or show that you explicitly told was not for them.

Anyway, I've actually bothered googling the article in question and read throught it. One of the premises is that women's works having a mostly female audience might jeopardize women's authors access to status, authority and money (literal words from the article). This is presented as a problem for women. Automatically the author jumps to putting the responsability of fixing it on men, demanding they open up to women's works.

>> No.21304660

>>21303964
Wait, Kaoru Mori is trans? Any source on that?

>> No.21304667

>>21301548
True, Dorohedoro is based.

>> No.21304669

>>21304616
Most women write BL or josei garbage, so I don;t think they write less wish-fulfillment trash than men.

>> No.21304677

>Read more women authors bigot!
Okay, I’m reading Virginia Woolf
>She did blackface sweaty!
Okay, I’ll read Flannery O’Connor
>She was racist!
Fine, I’ll read some poetry. Sylvia Plath
>She was racist too!
Okay how about Anne Sexton
>child molester!
What would you recommend I read?
>Well there’s this YA fantasy series by an obese disabled trans afro latinx womxn I really think everyone should read!
FUCK. OFF.

>> No.21304686

>>21304294
Reading a couple of women authored books will quickly sour your enthusiasm. They can;t help themselves but write melodrama soup opera trash.

>> No.21304690

>>21301746
But policy is already fair in the developed + developing world.

>> No.21304695

>>21301543
they never wrote anything after Frankenstein

>> No.21304711

>>21301543
Is it because no man wants to rape Margaret Atwood?

>> No.21304730

>>21304695
Shelley did write several books after Frankenstein but all of them suck and the only reason Frankenstein was good is because she was influenced by Percy Shelley (who wrote 1/5th of it) and Byron

>> No.21304767

>>21303432
If we shut down women's studies topics outside of the major would enrollment in the humanities dry up? Real question

>> No.21304785

>>21301574
I remember reading Anthem in a single day. For better or for worse, it had a big impact on my mental development when I read it as a first-year highschooler. Still enjoy the story years later, but I suspect it's partly due to nostalgia.

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>>21301879

>> No.21304928

>>21303192
>When women talk I only hear the Charlie Brown noises that the adults make.

Similar, and I find just go "really?" or "yeah." suffices to continue the conversation with them without taking in anything they're saying.

>> No.21304962

>>21304646
The funniest part is that women consume far more than men do. That means that, besides the signaling, posturing ones, no women read this shit either.

>> No.21304969

>>21304646
>Chastise your predominatly male fandom and then blame men when they refuse to watch your movie or show that you explicitly told was not for them.
Lol this literally just happened with She-Hulk

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I think it’s a question of focus.
Male writers tend to focus on creating things I love and enjoy.
Female writers tend to focus on taking things I love and enjoy away from me, killing them and desecrating their memory

>> No.21305249

>>21304332
The only medication I need is estrogen in it’s most pure undiluted form dripping and oozing down my throat drunken from the original source spring herself. I need it in literary form, why doesn’t this exist, why is this so impossible. True unconditional femininity.

>> No.21305268

>>21304667
based based based
love that mango

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>>21301746
Wrong, for several reasons. You're overestimating the influence of literature on people's perspective and general outlook on life. It's certainly secondary in that matter to real social interactions, and probably to TV and movies as well, at least in our generation. More importantly, for the last five decades, or more, policymaking hasn't been an all male activity. Which nullifies your whole hypothesis.

>> No.21305395

>>21304785
>I read Anthem in a single day
It's roughly 60 pages long. It'd be worrying if you didn't.

>> No.21305408

>>21304646
Women’s main problem solving skill is complaining until men fix whatever is bothering them.
It’s also interesting that they never frame this problem as women’s failure to interest or entertain men. They always frame it as men’s failure to find women entertaining or interesting.

>> No.21305519

>>21301746
That is a well-thought post and you are correct on many things, but mixed many other things. Have a good day.
>>21304294
Not correct? Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel is a very good book, came right off the top of my head.

>> No.21305638

>>21304767
The problem is Sociology.
I’m taking Intro to Sociology right now and it’s basically “Why SJWs are right and there is no other opinion”

>> No.21305737

>>21304616

Baseless statistics pulled from your ass prove that you should be ignored.

>> No.21305742

>>21305638
I was lucky enough to take it before drumpf and even then it was just lite socialist class analysis with political activist topics thrown in. Never seen an academic field so utterly ruined by the entrance of women

>> No.21305867

This is a bait thread
More interesting is the question why such threads can reliability generate so many responses
It is because they touch upon status, which is the reason why almost all things pertaining to people are interesting
As detailed in the book Improv
Which was written by a man, describing what he himself observed and took away from the observation

>> No.21306047

it's funny how men know what women want to read, ie stories about crime, sex and gossip, and false introspection ''i am so lost in life, i don't know how am i anymore'' that women love so much, , as proven by the 50 year old soap operas all vaginas love and all the crap stephen king writes, yet no roastie manages to make story that men love lol

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so this is the power of the feminine mind

>> No.21306151

>>21306047
>he doesn't like Mrs. Dalloway
I remember everyone on lit being like "I'm LITERALLY Peter Walsh" one time. She's buying the flowers herself, faggot.

>> No.21306191

>>21301543
majority of women are writing very specific fandom-oriented genreshit wish fulfilment for other women

>> No.21306266

>>21301543
Because there's only ever been a single truly great female novelist. Many great novels by females, but only one great female novelist.

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>>21301543
A genuine reason is that women just think differently from men and thus the literature they write won't be as relatable or interesting to men. Women don't typically read John Grisham and men don't typically read Harlequins.
I tried reading Atwood. I thought she was crud and I also didn't find what she had written to be interesting.
Someone like Alice Munro I can appreciate on a technical level - she's like a female Raymond Carver - but I just can't enjoy her because she doesn't write about things I find interesting. I prefer Carver.

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>>21303432
This is brilliant. Kek.

>> No.21306526

>>21301543
Why do so few women write well enough to hold a reader's attention?

>> No.21306541

>>21305519
? I never claimed that they didnt?

>> No.21306617

>>21304473
>What is true transcendence ?
Judging from his use of "dionysian and bacchic" as pejoratives, and holding up "shame or guilt" as ideals to strive for, he's probably got some christcuck shit in mind.

>> No.21306650

>>21301627
>>21304525
I thanks God every day that my dad left Montreal.

>> No.21306657

>>21301548
FPBP. For me, it's Riyoko Ikeda

>> No.21306726

>>21306657
Who?

>> No.21306761

>>21301543
Becuase most women writers are doing genre fiction shit and I don't read genre fiction. It's really that simple. I adore writers like Karen Blixen, Clarice Lispector, Anna Kavan and Selma Lagerlöf. Dickinson is also my favorite poet. I just don't read shitty genre fiction.

>> No.21306767

>>21306726
Riyoko Ikeda

>> No.21306768

>>21306726
>Anon doesn't know
You're just pretending to be retarded right?

>> No.21307097

>>21305395
? Pretty sure it was 120-130 or more. My copy is anyway. Besides, I was like 13.

>> No.21307186

>>21301806
This but unironically.
If I'm going to be an incel in a dark room my whole life I'm not going to pay for books by a demographic who has rejected me at every attempt I've made to have them be a part of my life.
I can think of many men who have made actual or made attempts at helping me to improve myself, help me have new experiences in life, stand up for me or encourage me.
No woman has ever afforded me that and have actively lied to me or lied about me to avoid having to be associated with me.
Their opinions just don't matter to me or will ever have any bearing on my life and their the ones who have decided that that was going to be the case.

>> No.21307370

>>21307186
Take meds.
Touch grass.
Have sex.

>> No.21307385

>>21301543
I liked Harry Potter and Animorphs as a kid. With adult fiction though I often run into weird sheik fantasies.

>> No.21307391

>>21303494
hannah arendt

>> No.21307472

>>21301543
I think everyone should stop reading the Grauniad.

>> No.21307475

>>21307391
>jewess desperately wanting to be fucked by a nazi

lol, literature post the atheist revolutions has always been a joke

>> No.21307491

>>21301627
>she also wrote this piece of peak pseud claiming the entirety of Canadian literature is a reflection of trying to survive in a harsh wilderness environment.
what else is there in canada

>> No.21307492

>>21307475
it's an interesting contradiction to say the least

>> No.21307495

>>21306617
i love how atheists hate when their precious hedonism is shited on

>> No.21307527

>>21306334
>doesn't find alice munro interesting
Her stories are often emotional page turners with grotesque twists and turns that keep you guessing masterfully you piece of human garbage

>> No.21307585

>>21307495
Just keep waiting for your reward in the afterlife, christcuck. Your death preoccupation will surely pay off eventually.

>> No.21307596

>>21301543
they don't write anything worth reading change my mind

>> No.21307617

>>21301543
What about J. K. Rowling?

>> No.21307627

>>21307617
She doesn't count because she's a TERF, is what the author of the article in OP would probably say.

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>>21301543
Women are incapable of taking accountability for choices in their lives, therefore cannot properly introspect. Most women can't write good fiction, nor give serious, pragmatic advice to other women.

Women just DO, they flaunt convention and break all rules shamelessly where they can, and I have a kind of appreciation for that, but when they try to convey any higher truth in art it all becomes some disingenuous horseshit. They're pathologically dishonest.

Most works of fiction by women is basically 'In Defense of Plausible Deniability', & they write that same book over and over again.

>> No.21307797

>>21307596
>change my mind
Nah. What's in it for me?

>> No.21307814

>>21307585
>death preoccupation
Eh hem, *clears throat politely*, I couldn't help over hearing, but you seem to be mistaken. Our Lord is alive and well, and we are immortals among men. You mortals, on the other hand, worship a fantasy of something from nothing and law to chaos. You enshine death as the sole arbitrator between you and the future, between success and failure, between intelligence and a vegetable. "If it hasn't died yet, it is good." This is the religion you practice. One which hold death as god, and mankind as a malfunctioning chimera, shambling along - eternally scraping at relevance, eternally on the cusp of doom at the hands of nature. Athiesm is no different than the pagan religons of the past, which viewed a lighting strike or a tornado as a divinity, and the shaking of the ground as an angry god, you've merely replaced those with viruses and meteor strikes, gamma ray bursts and the "inevitable" heat death of the universe.

You should choose life, and life abundantly in Christ. It is more sensible than petty animisms of modern barbarians.

>> No.21307817

>>21307617
>>21307627
Read the article, guys

>> No.21307825

>>21307814
>we are immortals among men
Why would you ever want to be an immortal

>> No.21307840

>>21307825
Really, it was a bit facetious of me to say. You're an immortal too, to a degree, in that your soul will persist even after the dusty nebula you know it by regains its earthy nature. It is simply that the true immortal is the man who sheds this cloudy exterior and enters the presence of God, while the rest will enter something else entirely. So you see, it isn't that I want to be immortal, but that I am immortal. What I want is to endlessly partake of the source of that immortality through Him who it is.

>> No.21307855

name 10 of each category worth reading written by a woman.
Philosophy
Religion
War

>> No.21307866

>>21307840
>What I want is to endlessly partake of the source of that immortality through Him who it is.
Well enjoy your quest I suppose.
I'd rather have immortality through my children. One mortal life is enough for me.

>> No.21307870

>>21307855
Bro. This is /lit/! Anons can barely name 10 men from each of those categories that they've actually read. How do you expect them to have read 30+ female works, when they've prolly read 1 to 5 books all year? Disingenuous.

(Also, your categories suck, and such an arbitrary and subjective measuring stick is meaningless.)

>> No.21307871

>>21307866
A Christian can have both, an Unbeliever can have neither (though your children may yet gain both).

>> No.21307899

>>21307855
>Philosophy
Hannah Arendt
G.E.M. Anscombe
Grete Hermann
Patricia Churchland
Ruth Millikan
Maudemarie Clark
Lynn Hankinson Nelson
Nancy Cartwright
Penelope Maddy
Maureen A. O'Malley

>> No.21307906

>>21301543
I believe literature died with Woolf in 1941, and I have read the interesting women from before that.
Everything - and I mean everything - written after 1941 is worse than what came before. It gets progressively worser the closer to our present day we come. This coincides (though I do not personally believe any causation is at play, rather, it is just modernity that is gay) with women entering the literary field in much greater numbers For that reason, I do not read many women - because the age they write in is one of terrible literature.

>>21301611
I think you are quite right. Just to add a bit.

The raw impetus of publication has always been profit. At times, this impetus has been supplemented by more lofty ideals about aesthetic or intellectual value, but at all times, these elements have been subservient to profit. During print publishing, where profit was made by people buying physical copies of your publication, you needed some aesthetic or intellectual value in it - otherwise people would not want to buy it.

In our current age of digital publishing, and digital publishing at a rate and ease hitherto never seen (there were already more blogs than species on earth by 2008), the techbros have found out that intellectual and aesthetic value is not at all necessary for profit, because we no longer pay for the media we consume, so we have no standards. Spending 5 minutes reading some bullshit article is a waste of time, certainly, but we do it anyway, because it is free.
All that is needed now for profit is engagement, for people to read your shit so they look and click on the ads. In order to secure engagement, intellectual and aesthetic value can actually be a detriment - it requires concentration and dedication. Much better is outrage, which explains the article you have read, as well as 99% of all other internet publications. Schizophrenic word-salad outrage-bait is triply effective, because it engages both a) the proponents and b) opponents of whatever stance is adopted, as well as c) people capable of thought, who, regardless of stance on the topic, are outraged that the topic is treated so fucking stupidly.

It works exceedingly well at what is was designed to do, securing engagement. The fallacy is assuming that it is supposed to have intellectual merit.

>> No.21307919

>>21301543
"Why do so few Men read books, full stop," would be the real question and the answer would be the same either way:

Shit, boring and overly dull authors are promoted and interesting, engaging and overly explicit authors are not. Thus writers water down their own work and render themselves boring to the reader, the reader then believes - correctly from their experiences - that literature is boring and stale.

Austen and Bronte are goods example; I don't know who Atwood or Booker are, but Austen and Bronte are cited whilst Crompton, Buck and Anna Freud are not.

>> No.21307924

>>21307906
Thoughtful but wrong in implying that the internet is responsible for a decline that started in 1941
Also you're now giving attention to the clickbait

>> No.21307934

>>21307899
you failed reading comprehension try again with book titles not what the first google results are

>> No.21307939

>>21307855
>Religion
Julian of Norwich
Savitri Devi
Helena Blavatsky
Dion Fortune
H.R. Ellis Davidson ("Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe. Early Scandinavian and Celtic Religions")
Brittany Erin Schorn ("Speaker and Authority in Old Norse Wisdom Poetry")
Frances Yates ("Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition", "The Art of Memory")
Laura Feldt ("The Fantastic in Religious Narrative from Exodus to Elisha")
Francesca Rochberg ("In the Path of the Moon. Babylonian Celestial Divination and Its Legacy")
Ingrid Hjelm ("The Samaritans and Early Judaism. A Literary Analysis")

>> No.21307978

>>21307939
TERRIBLE LIST

>> No.21307994

>>21307906
>>I believe literature died with Woolf in 1941,
literature died when with the secular revolutions

>> No.21307999

>>21301543
Women are mean to me and won’t give me love plus they haven’t written hardly any classics. And no philosophy.

>> No.21308125

>>21304525
>women.pgn

>> No.21308156

>>21304525
So their women dream of getting fucked by BBC (Big Bear Cock) whilst their men enjoy doggy action?
What a fucked up nation.

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>>21304525
This woman is a Canadian editor, publisher and literary critic. She called it the greatest canadian novel ever penned.
Sorry Chuds, you just can't compete with the BBC (Big Bear Cock) or BBB (Big Bear Balls).

>> No.21308224

>>21307994
>literature died when
"trans"gender became a thing

>> No.21308617

>>21307370
> Take meds
I don't have any clinically diagnosable psychological disorders. Taking medication would be unhealthy
> Touch grass
I have a day job and until very recently had a good number of friends and was tied into the local art scene. I've met people who have been featured on semi-popular television programs. That isn't me bragging just to explain that I'm more than well socialized and capable of handling myself in social situation.
> have sex
If the only way to like women is to penetrate them and that excuses every mistreatment every women I've met has directed at me then all you've done is proven why disliking them is not only prudent but virtuous.

>> No.21308688

>>21301806
BASED
HEIL CHUD

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>>21304660
She's not. He's just a meming retard. This is a rare photo of her.

>> No.21308746

>>21301543
they literally suck dick, I'm not reading anything by a dicksucker who isn't a man

>> No.21308761

>>21303174
women can carry out a great man's intent in ways that please him, this explains those rare female directors. but in every other public task woman prefers to tease.

>> No.21308789

I just pick up books without even peeking at the author's name. I see a cool cover or a nice name and then I read. I just checked my collection to see if I've read female authors and I have, but I would've never known otherwise.

>> No.21309016

>>21307385
>weird sheik fantasies.
This, when I read I don't want to be reminded that women will forgive rape if it's by a rich chad

>> No.21309027

>>21301543
women read books by and for women as well.

>> No.21309054

>>21309027
Yes and what's the problem with that?

>> No.21309065

>>21307495
No one cares about hedonism being shat on, it is just that christcucks are completely fucking retarded life-deniers, and it is especially cringe when people christcuck on 4chan, because it is most definitely a LARP.

>> No.21309080

>>21301879
>All their talent will be applied to talking about themselves in one way or another, and their inner life always turns out to be hedonistic and lacking any form of self-transcendence.
Someone is both a) extremely angry that he will never experience motherhood, and b) should really stop writing incel essays that are transparently about hating his own mother.

I'm willing to bet real money that you cannot define or give an example of "true transcendence". It is a pretentious placeholder for "stuff I like".

>> No.21309123

the last three books i read are by women authors, ursula k le guin and jean rhys.

>> No.21309476

>>21309054
He's saying that there's no problem with men reading books exclusively by and for men in the same vein. Like science textbooks or economics.

>> No.21309480

>>21301543
i'm postmodern, i don't believe in the grand narrative that women have valuable insight to offer about anything

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>>21301543
Listening to women is a shrill, unpleasant experience that men loathe but tolerate when they listen to their mothers and wives. It's an irritation to be avoided in any other context. Women make trite observations, ramble and gossip about nothing because there is zero pressure in nature or nurture to make them interesting or to peel away the layers of awkwardness beaten out of boys as they mature. Women are never told "nobody gives a fuck" enough times to become selective with words or comments. Young boys chatter, betas chatter, women chatter, men are silent and then speak what needs to be said.

Reading a book written by a woman is like letting a woman you can't even fuck talk into your ear for 20 hours straight. That's torture.

>> No.21309533

>>21309514
>t. boring cunt that can't hold eye contact and zero conversational ability when speaking to people in the real world
"Speaking only what needs to be said" is code for "I have no real personality and nothing interesting to say"

>> No.21309554

>>21309533
You seem very upset by what he had to say. Almost as if your tampon is soaked through and it is irritating the lips of your vagina.

>> No.21309558

>>21301879
This post comes off as incredibly harsh but it's painfully accurate. I'm sure women would be very offended by what you wrote and call you an incel (Their usual recourse to any criticism) but no less true.

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>>21309514
I like talking to women and I've always gotten along well with them.

>> No.21309568

>>21309563
As do I, but I don't learn anything when I do. If I did learn anything from a woman talking, I would be incredibly ashamed of what a fool I was.

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>>21309568
You just need to talk to some more women my bro. They're really great to have around. Read some J K Rowling, chicks love her and it gives you an good way to start a conversation.

>> No.21309583

I do read books by women. Flannery O'Connor, Alice Munroe and E. Annie Proulx are my favorite short story writers. I just don't read books by bland, pompous, sanctimonious, overhyped battle axes like Atwood.

>> No.21309592

>>21309554
No, but the people that pride themselves on being mute only unless "something needs to be spoken" are typically airheaded twats who think they're much smarter than they really are and somehow deeper and more mature than everyone else. It reeks like a 17 year old social outcast who just skimmed Aurelius' Meditations for the first time and now fancies himself a calm, collected stoic

>> No.21309595

>>21303511
No, it gets worse. Especially if you get married.

>> No.21309607

>>21309577
How can you carry a conversation with a creature whose intellectual high bar is repeating phrases from the television and who is overly preoccupied with petty superficial appearances of the women around her to the point that all she does is complain about them? It's bad enough running into a man who does this but at least with a man you crack his neck and nudge him into the river.

>> No.21309610

>>21309592
No, it reeks of an unchanged tampon irritating a vaginal opening.

>> No.21309614

>>21309577
This is solid bait. Anyone who grew up with sisters knows that they're as airheaded as can be in general conversation, even when they're highly accomplished academics.

>> No.21309619

>>21309577
On the other hand, almsot all media; when you think about it, is tailored to brainwash Women into being the way they are. Very little media or anything actually targets Men, beyond pornography or childrens ball games.

It's not unlike the terrible position of Jews; imagine growing up being brainwashed all the time into thinking everybody hates you. Kind of similar.

>> No.21309667

>>21304525
lol this is something i'd write as a surrealistic short story in 20 minutes, good to know there's a market though i .. can't say i'd ever be inclined to devote more the 20 minutes to writing something like it.

>> No.21309672

>>21301543
I don't look into who writes a book

>> No.21309687

/lit/ confirmed more based than wizchan. Miracles happen!

>> No.21309689

>>21301543
Non-fiction can be decent but their fiction is rarely enjoyable for men to read.

>> No.21309720

>>21301543
The girl has made a poo in the toilet, applaud her. It was so unlikely she would ever be able to accomplish this,

girl, "wow, it's like I'm jesus christ I have so much power over everything"

>> No.21310194

>>21303432
>>woman: "Women"
lostg

>> No.21310247

I have only two women on my bookshelf, one's Emily Brontë and the other's Agatha Christie
I like it like that

>> No.21310254

>>21309514
>t. average midwit deadbeat larping at alphism

>> No.21310262 [DELETED] 

>>21309614
>painfully true

>> No.21310268

>>21303432
>woman: "Queering Gender in Medieval Manuscripts: Your period or MY period?"
Still makes me huehuehue

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>>21301548
otoyomegatari and dungeon meshi are masterpieces

>> No.21310382

>>21303009
Sangatsu no Lion made a story about depression interesting, when books about depression usually aren't.

>> No.21310395

>>21301937
>Japs are superhuman level competent at everything though, it could just be a relative advantage. 14 year old Japs doing rough sketches of robot inflation porn make 100x better art than the best robot inflation artist in the entire west. I bet japs even shit more efficiently than us.
It's no superhuman, it's that their education isn't fucking dogshit.

>> No.21310399

>>21303516
Did you know, aside from her mainline series, Rumiko Takahashi put out a bunch of OVAs. I was surprised, since I came across like, three entirely by accident.
Some of them are pretty decent too

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>>21301746
i just want to let you know that this is one of the clearest, most thought-out posts i've ever read on this accursed website
A++ work anon, great job

>> No.21310462

>>21301543
I read books to escape females and female thought, not immerse myself in it.

>> No.21310920

>>21303432
>Queering Gender in Medieval Manuscripts: Your period or MY period?

Just yesterday this bi girl I know posted a paper she was writing to her instagram entitled "When We Were Monsters: Queer Pain in Medieval German Culture" and I physically gagged.

>> No.21310967

>>21301571
spbp

>> No.21311226

>>21310395
>their education isn't fucking dogshit
Yeah. It actually goes to the other extreme. It still makes them good goy drones like our system does. Life in Japan after high school is basically over. You kiss up to old men hoping for a chance of a chance that your connections will let you be a slightly better salaryman. But the ones who show interest in doing alternative things seriously actually get supported, usually.

>> No.21311234

>>21301645
This. Anglo women are boring, Austen makes me fall asleep. Read a book by a Russian lady a few days ago and I had tears in my eyes

>> No.21311415

>>21301578
A lot, I would think.
It's a topic that's completely divorced from the life of the average person in the modern world, so if you have any personal experience on the subject you could give a unique perspective that people would find interesting.
Even if your experience was as indirect as simply knowing a person before and after they were raped and seeing the effect it had on them I imagine you would be able to leverage that into creating a powerful, meaningful story.
Alternatively, if the idea of rape has attached itself to your mind to the point where it has become a personal obsession, that would likely cause you to have a unique perspective on it, even lacking any real-world experience. Asanagi and Kenkou Cross, however you feel about them (if you feel anything about them at all) have made entire careers around this.
If you have nothing original to say and no impetus to express you probably shouldn't write about a subject, no matter how important it may be. I believe authors should focus their efforts on writing stories no other author but them could ever write.

>> No.21311423

>>21310325
>Dungeon meshi
MY NIGGER

>> No.21311468

>>21307186
based

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>>21304157
Love her <3

>> No.21311635

>>21308617
>I have a day job
ngmi
>a good number of friends
ngmi
>tied into the local art scene
NGMI
>I've met people who have been featured on semi-popular television programs
Like what shows? Million Dollar Extreme?

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>>21309533

>> No.21311776

>>21301879
stop reading literary fiction and memoir

>> No.21312054

>>21309080
I love how you can tell when a post is made by an assblastes woman that clearly can't engage with a post past the surface level, so she resorts to a string of insults that are all generic as fuck. Clam down bitch lol.

>> No.21312081

>>21312054
>asks someone to provide a simple definition or example of the one term that is doing all the heavy lifting of the post
>YOU CAN'T REASON, YOU'RE ILLOGICAL!!1
OK retard.

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>>21312081

>> No.21312135

>>21312120
What is true transcendence? Last chance.

>> No.21312139

>>21301543
They should ride about more dragons. And comely lasses.

>> No.21312145

>>21309080
>b) should really stop writing incel essays that are transparently about hating his own mother.
Holy armchair pseudoscience.

>> No.21312148

>>21312135
A catch-all term pseuds on lit use to label stuff they can superficialy and intuitively sense but don't really understand and can't explain.

>> No.21312231

>>21303432
>woman: "I'm a woman btw. Vagina here"
Lol, this reminds me of the phrase, "Pills here!".

>> No.21312282

>>21312135
>Last chance.
Or what?

>> No.21312294

>>21312282
>folds under minimal pressure to defend his point
Predictable and boring.

>> No.21312324

>>21301543
Everything the best woman can do, in her distance from her mean, the best man can do better, not just in his distance from her, but from his distance to the stars.

>> No.21312330

>>21312294
Why should anyone defend their point to a hysterical menstruating retard like you?

>> No.21312335

>>21301548
fpbp peolple dont realize how much doujinshi is made by women

>> No.21312616

>>21306047
Nah only a gay man could ever hope to actually succeed in this market, you're vastly underestimating the social awareness and empathy required to successfully mimic it

>> No.21312645

>>21307633
Would you like to name some examples of fiction that is basically "In Defense of Plausible Deniability"? Or are you just making shit up because you're so emotionally invested in perpetuating a baseless stereotype? It's funny so many on this board believe women lack the ability to be truly introspective when it's the women in my life who've demonstrated self-awareness and empathy to a far greater degree than any of my male friends or family. I can't help but assume you shut-ins assume women to emotionally unintelligent automatons simply because you don't actually know many women

>> No.21313506

>>21312330
Precisely this. A voice has to be valuable before its worth engagement. They engaged with you, admitting your value, and you did not engage with them, exposing their lack of value.