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Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:00:42 2011 No.2128528 [Reply] [Original]

So why is Ayn Rand considered a proponent of objectivism?

She sounds more like a subjectivist.

inb4 "ur so dum", and superiority because you've read some books, I just want an answer, there was a time when you didn't know this either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:02:42 2011 No.2128532 bump for better-than-thou

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:05:42 2011 No.2128538 where's my angry book nerds

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:06:42 2011 No.2128540 File: 32 KB, 485x364, bowl of tripe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2128538 >wannabe troll thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:07:42 2011 No.2128541 >>2128540 Yuck, that looks like a plate of shit. Who would eat that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:10:42 2011 No.2128544 >>2128541 Ayn Rand fans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:11:42 2011 No.2128545 because she sucked at philosophy.

Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:13:42 2011 No.2128547

No, but seriously, I watched this documentary on her life on Netflix that was obviously a low budget thing but was composed entirely of videos of interviews with her and she was forever on about how you should pursue you dreams and let no one else get in your way. Basically be selfish. That sounds pretty fucking subjective to me, to me objective would be what benefits humanity the most.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:17:42 2011 No.2128554

you're using the term "objectivism" as an antonym of "subjectivism," which is obviously correct. But the philosophical "objectivism" hasn't this name because of the objectivity of their philosophers. Objectivist (as part of the philosophical) philosophers can be subjective, the fact that they belong to the Objectivist movement is determined by other patterns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:20:42 2011 No.2128559 >>2128554 Do you want my subjective view on this matter?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:21:42 2011 No.2128562 its almost as if her ideology was poorly thought out

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:41:42 2011 No.2128590 >hey guys you'd never guess it but I actually discovered a flaw in Ayn Rand's work. That's gotta be a first, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 10 04:49:42 2011 No.2128606 File: 32 KB, 597x392, dsfargeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2128590 At this point, it's like finding a flaw in neoclassical or Austrian economics. Right-wingers have no place in philosophy.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 10 05:09:42 2011 No.2128645

>>2128528

She's an objectivist in the sense that there are objective laws of ethics which can be discovered by the application of reason.

According to her, those objective laws state that you should confine yourself to your subjective interests. But not entirely, though. Otherwise her philosophy might make sense. I'm not entirely sure when you're allowed to be entirely selfish and when you must be a good citizen and not murder, steal, etc. I'm hardly a Rand scholar, nor am I inclined to become one.

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