He was right though?

[Anonymous No.21271167]

[Anonymous No.21271182]

>>21271167
>>21269268

[Anonymous No.21271258]

>>21271167
He was not.

[Anonymous No.21271270]

>>21271167
His targets were wrong. He sent bombs to some literally who smalltime computer store guy. Rather than tech millionaires or someone more influential. This is why I think he was a psyop. Have you guys noticed that? All these supposed radicals only go after nobodies. They never attack the status quo, the powers that be.

[Anonymous No.21271280]

>>21271270
Is this a copypasta now?

[Anonymous No.21271293]

>>21271280
No, it's alphabet soup.

[Anonymous No.21271325]

Right is subjective, a neet who jerks off to anime porn and plays vidya all day thinks society is perfect as it is right now, but from a human animal pov, yes, society after the indrev fucked everything up, just because we are naturally drawn to the machines.

Theoretically, and practically we could live in small settlements (think CHOP/CHAZ but functional) where we share technology and resources. Trade and wealth are pretty crazy concepts, to think we evolved empathy to be able to look out for fellow men to keep social cohesion and then to think about the horrors of a selfish massive society just points out how the modern human ecosystem has changed the way we think to be more selfish and disconnected, which is not surprising if you live with another 230 million people all inside the same society. If we limited ourselves to small societies that interacted with each other in small ways rather than a globalized system that tracks every single person in the borders of their territory we could be happier even if you just reduce it to brain composition; our brains are still somewhat adapted to african mud huts and we cannot evolve fast enough to embrace technological progress.

TLDR; technology isnt the problem, a society built around industry is, however, since it pushes to dehumanize the workers it needs just by the sheer amount of people it draws into a small area.

>>21271270
retarded post, he got what he wanted, his manifesto published, the bombs were just a method to get his word out

[Anonymous No.21271340]

>>21271270
I believe it’s actually more effective if you go after literal whos compared with if you go after the people in positions of power as it effectively makes anyone a target, and the people in positions of power already have little choice but to continue to adhere to their hardline ideology but literal whos can be swayed.

[Anonymous No.21271366]

>>21271270
To add to what the others are saying, when you reach the level of tech millionaire, there's a good chance they having someone screening their mail or opening it for them, which makes killing them via mail bomb difficult.

[Anonymous No.21271395]

one of the few philosophers who actually lived his ethos

[Anonymous No.21271397]

>>21271167
>he doesn't want to ascend
Cringe

[Anonymous No.21271399]

[Anonymous No.21271409]

i never understood the foreign policy of all these anti tech fags
you know, the thing that is half of the fucking budget
how do you deal with technologically superior foreigners and enemies?

anti tech fags dont have an answer, they never did

[Anonymous No.21271412]

why are there like 5 fucking threads about discount ellul right now, fuck off

[Anonymous No.21271414]

>>21271167
He has been refuted by historical materialism

[Anonymous No.21271420]

>>21271409
It is written in ISaiF. No policies should restrict technology in a nation because that would allow pro-tech nations a competitive advantage. The only goal is destabilization of the entire globe. He literally wrote that any revolution must be global because of the reason you stated.
Read the source material weiner.

[Anonymous No.21271427]

>>21271420
>just become global bro
how tf does one man act globally? especially if he lives in a wooden shack and doesnt use any technology???
>cooperate
leads to glowie infiltration and prison cell

i dont know why do people read ted like some great revolutionary who had everything figured out, guy is a fucking convict rotting in a cell

[Anonymous No.21271434]

>>21271340
had never thought about it this way, but that's also why the Zodiac killer or school shooters are so scary, because they could target anyone

[Anonymous No.21271445]

>>21271167
He was a deranged eleutheromaniac terrorist. End of.

[Anonymous No.21271448]

>>21271397
autisticaly fascinating

[Anonymous No.21271461]

>>21271409

>not thinking globally

u, sir are quite the retard

[Anonymous No.21271469]

>>21271420
All you need is one country to create a secret underground stash of high tech, wait for everyone else to return to monke, and then conquer the world. And then you realize each country will be thinking the other countries are already doing this and then everyone ends up with a secret tech stash.

[Anonymous No.21271482]

>>21271469

so the revolution must be total

got it

see u on the flip side, friend

[Anonymous No.21271494]

>>21271167
I bet most chuds don't know this but it is well know that he was a trans ally , who couldn't freely transition in his oppressive times and thus wanted to create a world free from any restrictions.

[Anonymous No.21271504]

>>21271427
Holy mother of God are you just ironically retarded

[Anonymous No.21271517]

>>21271397
wonderful, thank you.

[Anonymous No.21271942]

>>21271325
Humans will always band together because it's the immediate easier way

[Anonymous No.21272543]

>>21271942
I guess the massive communities are some form of exploitation we weren't ready for

[Anonymous No.21272641]

>>21271427
He wrote an entire book on this stuff, Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How. He says an anti-tech movement needs to have a few characteristics to succeed, including:
- Being utterly committed and having zero moral qualms about the fallout of destroying tech
- Actively turning away anyone who isn't utterly committed
- Having knowledge of tech for the purpose of overthrowing it
- A single, simple goal: destroy the infrastructure of the system when it is in a crisis. No goals of seizing political power.
- Actively destabilise the system, but do not try to unilaterally start a revolution too early, which would inevitably fail

I think he realises it's a very long shot, but the impression I get is that he thinks presenting it as a realistic possibility increases the chance of it happening, so as a strategy he makes it sound as plausible as he can.

It relies on his assumption that a catastrophic failure of part of the system will cascade and make the whole thing irreversibly collapse. He does explain why he thinks this, in chapters 1 and 2, but because he's talking about global phenomena he's very broad and admits his theories can't be proven.

So I think he is quite a strategic writer. No matter how unrealistic he actually thinks this revolution is, he knows that any anti-tech group would need absolute belief in their cause, so he won't discuss the shortcomings. Kaczynski isn't a philosopher, his interest is confined to practical 'common sense' reality. I imagine he would reply to philosophical objections by saying that revolutionary movements don't succeed or fail depending on what philosophers think, and his goal is for a successful revolutionary group to form so anything else is secondary.

From the perspective of his world view it makes total sense, but his world view might be wrong!

[Anonymous No.21272655]

>>21271397
What is this from?

[Anonymous No.21273377]

>>21271167
who keeps editing his height markers

[Anonymous No.21273383]

No idea, but his life is a sad story.

[Anonymous No.21273402]

>>21271340
Maybe back in the day it might have caused terror but nobody gives a shit now. Killing literal whos changes nothing. Killing billionaires destabilizes things, it might even destabilize an entire industry.

[Anonymous No.21273460]

>>21271494
>his oppressive times
I think you mean *her* oppressive times, chud

[Anonymous No.21274139]

>>21273402
When was the last time a billionaire was assassinated?

[Anonymous No.21274163]

>>21271399
Transhumanism will be pushed by all the terrible actors in the current western metapolitical order - and will be abused and twisted by those who push the current cultural waves i.e. modern radical gender/opression etc etc politics. The only way it could ever be a positive is if it were pushed by men seeking to follow a trajectory of great quality and achievement, rather than political elites who are stupid and 'third worldist'

[Anonymous No.21274188]

>>21271399
Read man and his technics by Spengler

[Anonymous No.21274459]

>>21271167
No

[Anonymous No.21275017]

>>21271167
No and stop making multiple threads about this.

[Anonymous No.21276173]

>>21275017
He made threads before?