Lit bros. We won.

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Anonymous Tue Nov 15 01:38:19 2022 No.21258052 [Reply] [Original]

Lit bros. We won.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 01:39:55 2022 No.21258064 >>21258052 As a philosophyfag I had a deep sigh of relief when I didn't find philosophy there. Even biofags regret their major more than us kek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 01:41:50 2022 No.21258072 >>21258064 That's "liberal arts" you were probably combined with History, African Studies, and Gender Studies

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 01:44:16 2022 No.21258082 >>21258072 As far as I know "liberal arts" is a separate major that has a combination of different humanities and sciences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:37:21 2022 No.21258521 >>21258052 I'm surprised medicine and biology are as high up there as they are. Anyone care to explain why this is? I remember dating a biologist girl who was pretty miserable and having trouble finding a job, but I didn't know there was a pattern.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:46:11 2022 No.21258561

>>21258521
Many more students than applicable job openings due to very low turnover. Means you'll need to hoof those student loans while taking unpaid internships to even get a foot in the door at any major employer. Also, labs fucking suck and its all you'll do most of your career across a lot of disciplines. Softer disciplines that aren't job focused are largely completely useless or are being automated/digitized/outsourced.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:46:43 2022 No.21258563

>falling for academia pyramid scheme vanity degree mill
If you went to university and come out unable to do triple bypass heart surgery or build nuclear reactors, congratulations, you branded yourself with a retard brand. You are a low iq person. No matter what the facebook test says, you know the one where everyone is 110. You fell for the 80 iq trap.

Enjoy being filtered out of real economy. Have fun minwaging in the hr, fast food, or adult daycare office at pseudojobs where you lose 50% of income on day 1 to rent and other 50% to taxes. You will now die as subhuman cattle, permanently filtered out of self employed aristocracies who have marketable skills and can just set up offshore holding companies and bid on billion dollar contracts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:47:13 2022 No.21258564 >>21258561 >Softer disciplines that aren't job focused *lab focused

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:49:44 2022 No.21258578

>>21258521
Biology is a bad combination of student and job prospects. Students: sensitive souls who liked butterflies growing up and drew horses in their notebooks. Job prospects: ruthless competition for a small number of jobs at soul sucking corporate labs

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:51:59 2022 No.21258584 >>21258561 >>21258578 Interesting

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:54:30 2022 No.21258592 >>21258563 Someone’s mad they spent 10+ years doing their PhD and still earn less than an e-thot selling nudes on OnlyFans

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 03:57:24 2022 No.21258602

>>21258592
average engineering students get 6 digits part time internships before they even graduate tho
you dont need a phd if you studied the correct degree
aerospace industry for example is bigger than most other sectors of the economy while employing less than 1% of the workforce
and you also get to love your job

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 05:04:20 2022 No.21258795 >>21258052 I'm a history major and I refuse to believe we didn't make the top 10.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 06:09:36 2022 No.21258973 >>21258052 Pretty sad to see education up there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:18:30 2022 No.21259150 >>21258563 >>21258602 >undergrads can do heart surgery and generate power from fission Why are people who use the words "real economy" in a sentence such ignorant retards who fixate on nuclear reactors?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:20:33 2022 No.21259153 >>21258052 Who the fuck even goes for libarts degree? >yes, I'm going to need 6-7 years of education to learn how to ...enjoy reading If you're not in uni for STEM you're wasting everyone's time

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:35:35 2022 No.21259176 Only the top 1% of people can do something they like and make money. You must get a job you won't care for. Engineering, something technology related, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:39:36 2022 No.21259182 >>21258973 Education is a terrible discipline and not necessary to get a job as a schoolteacher

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:50:52 2022 No.21259212 >>21258521 Biology Bachelor's, prepare to work as a lab tech. Gotta have at least a Master's degree to get the jobs everyone wants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 07:55:02 2022 No.21259223 >>21259153 Universities used to be more well rounded, before they dumbed them down. Having an actual quality liberal arts education is not a waste of time at all. It's just that a liberal arts education now is garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 14:17:32 2022 No.21260048 File: 2.98 MB, 720x480, 1666766160333119.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21258052 >mfw psychology major

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 14:25:41 2022 No.21260072 Do we have a bottom 10 most regretted majors list? I'm about to get out of the military and get that sweet sweet free university, and I was planning on going into either political science to go abroad or urban planning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 14:28:52 2022 No.21260087 >>21260072 >I was planning on going into either political science to go abroad or urban planning. You really hate yourself, don't you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 14:29:49 2022 No.21260089 >>21260087 If I hated myself I would be doing STEM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 14:58:27 2022 No.21260175 >>21260089 Stemchads like their jobs much more than the average (code monkeys aren't stem).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:18:10 2022 No.21260229 >>21260175 They don’t lmao, STEMbugs hate their jobs because they’re only in it for the money

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:21:51 2022 No.21260239 >>21260229 >only in it for the money Have you ever had a job? Or rather, needed one? Getting paid is pretty important.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:46:46 2022 No.21260299

>>21258052
Honest-to-God journalism major here and yeah, kinda regret it. I actually work in the field but there's not much of an advantage you gain from it. Any other trained monkey can do my job and all I've done was pigeonhole my career prospects while I would have had a broader horizon if I went into any other arts degree. And with fewer journalism jobs around, you're either going into something entirely different or just marketing and content writing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:51:13 2022 No.21260308 >>21260299 You could consider law school.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 15:52:17 2022 No.21260309 I studied economics. I have many regrets about college, but the field is not one.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 16:58:13 2022 No.21260474

>>21260229
No? Have you ever set foot in an electronics office or manufacture? Chemical engineering? Applied mathematics?
They are relatively comfy jobs all things considered. Especially now that "working from home" is normalized for all but the lower level lab rats.
>they’re only in it for the money
The fact that we're propelled to the comfy class even doing the minimum is certainly a bonus but those working in industry would have been paid more recycling their skills for an insurance company.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:02:35 2022 No.21260487
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>have physics degree
>hundreds of options for well-paying jobs
>refuse to apply for most of them because they contribute to a souless bugman system.

I hate the antichrist so fucking much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:06:25 2022 No.21260505 >>21260309 I'm biz management honestly just feels pointless I really don't feel like I've learned much over the course of my """studies"""

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:28:12 2022 No.21260555 >>21258052 What about law

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:34:32 2022 No.21260573

>>21260474
I quit my last engineering job because everybody there was working 10+ hour days and ruining their health to meet the retarded demands of our pajeet boss who got the general managership job due to an in with the pajeets who bought the factory. This was a historically rural American large equipment manufacturer.

Job before that was nice but I got laid off along with some others specifically because management couldn‘t keep up with other companies who weren‘t sociopaths without adopting sociopathic practices. Job before that was a yuppie larp where everybody who had 5+ years with the company just made sales and pawned the work off on the recent grad eager to start a career and willing to do inordinate work with inordinate stress.

Getting an EE degree was the biggest mistake of my life only slightly redeemed by that it gave me enough fallback money that now I can just be a security guard and read several hours of the working day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:41:18 2022 No.21260598 >>21259176 The problem is the jobs and especially careers are not there. I can count the number of peers under 35 who have managed to establish themselves in any sort of career on one hand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:44:07 2022 No.21260616 >>21260505 Honestly, I think business management is a good bit more pointless than economics. You should switch if you still can. If you want to just vaguely work in business or be an entrepreneur, economics is probably the best choice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:46:13 2022 No.21260625 >>21258082 isnt "liberal arts" the catch all over catagory of that stuff though? like the "liberal arts department" would include phil, his, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:48:32 2022 No.21260633 >>21260487 Unless you're painting, writing poetry, sculpting, or some other sort of traditional art, then you're working within a soulless system no matter what you do or what you study.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:53:29 2022 No.21260654

>>21258052
Just from experience it seems like most college students regret their studies in general. I have no idea why it’s still seen as a necessity for everyone to go to college when they turn 18. We all know how unbelievably fucked the academic system is, how downwardly mobile younger generations are, how difficult it is to obtain a valuable job if you’re not STEM, how much easier it is to just go to community college or learn a trade, etc. But none of that matters it seems. Normies are still choosing a lifetime of student debt and mediocrity because having a special piece of paper is really important to them. They complain so much about the university system but still attend them.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:56:20 2022 No.21260674

>>21258052
I regret getting a degree in psychology. Professionally, I would've been better off with an English, journalism, or communications degree. Not that these degrees would've actually contributed to my skillset--employers just prefer hiring people with these degrees in my field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 17:56:40 2022 No.21260675 >>21260487 hell yeah ted

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:00:02 2022 No.21260688 >>21260633 I think there is a difference between things that are corrupted by the modern world but are good in principle, e.g. medicine, and things that are just rotten to the core, e.g. finance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:34:50 2022 No.21260789 >>21260674 what's your field? law?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:37:26 2022 No.21260797 >>21258052 If you attend Oxbridge or Ivy then you can get away with any of these degrees to be fair

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>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:47:40 2022 No.21260840 >>21260789 I'm an editor. Getting past HR with anything other than one of those subjects was tricky.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:48:58 2022 No.21260846 >>21260688 I don't see why you suppose finance is inherently rotten or medicine inherently good. Many financiers finance good and necessary things and many doctors write terrible prescriptions that do a lot of harm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:50:44 2022 No.21260850 >>21260654 I work in education and have a lot of time to think and read about these things. My conclusion is that liberal society overvalues what it calls "education" to a huge degree because it perpetuates liberal society.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:51:27 2022 No.21260858

>>21260072
Can I get a response to this question that isn't just resentment and spite from an insecure asian, please? I'm open to considering other majors/fields but I'd prefer to stay away from sheerly corporate or office jobs. My ideal is in the intersection between liberal arts and real material work. I've considered law as well, but working as an attorney seems like hell and I know nothing about the non-representational side of the field.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:54:20 2022 No.21260882

>>21260812
They don't regret their majors because they simply lack introspection and are incapable of imagining any other fate for themselves (especially true for CS and engineering)
>t. CS major who regrets getting into this soulless bugmen-filled trade

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:54:21 2022 No.21260883

>>21258521
Because working in medicine is a horrible, thankless task. Most people think you make so much money, but to get to that point is difficult and the job itself is terrible. A lot of people study medicine because their parents want them to as well, maybe that plays a part? For lots of people it's great, but for lots it is not.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:55:07 2022 No.21260885

>>21260850
Precisely this. Liberal education is obedience training, and you are incentivized to signal your degree of obedience training to a huge degree - though behind the curtain of the ethos its all just a debt mill, as all of liberal society is ultimately a bent of capitalist materialism.
The Prussian Model is a disaster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:56:35 2022 No.21260902 >>21258064 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:59:03 2022 No.21260915 File: 1.24 MB, 900x1327, 1619193358617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21258064 Philosophy in my country has a ~85% placement rate. Feels comfy.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 18:59:21 2022 No.21260917

>>21260797
It's partly. I had a terrible experience during and after college, and so I thought about it a lot. It only started to make sense in a civilizational phenomenon once I considered it as a socio-professional class sorting mechanism more than anything.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:00:07 2022 No.21260922

>>21260846
>inherently good
In the sense that healing the sick is inherently good, except maybe people who are so sick that keeping them alive is pointless. An individual doctor might be corrupt but the field itself has a noble cause. Finance is the opposite. A individual investor might finance good causes, but the global finacial system is out of control. It's educated gambling at best, and parasitic at worst. However, I will admit that maybe I'm being too harsh because I'm sick of job website sending me emails about finance jobs despite me never showing any interest in them.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:01:50 2022 No.21260929

>>21260885
Well, it's socialization, isn't it? The people with the best outcomes are the people who can socialize their way through particular circles and relationships in elite schools, and not people who demonstrate raw intelligence or work ethic. These people meet the right people, say the right things, in the right way, and that's why they have good outcomes.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:02:02 2022 No.21260930

>>21258052

More like /sci/ won. Love how hard STEM is nowhere to be found (Biology is important and can be an interesting subject, but at the undergrad level it's commonly studied by women who want to amuse themselves with a subject of general interest/a "different" major).

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:07:10 2022 No.21260956

>>21260797
This is only sort of correct. If you are going to an ivy because your parents are business owners and can setup their artist child with a job when they graduate, then yes you'll do fine. If you were not already upper middle class or above then those kids actually do poorly with a degree in art or whatever.

>>21260882
Just make your money and get out. Ridiculous middle class careerism. You think the guy on the deep sea crab boat is moping about his life choices? Your job isn't that shit. Just do the work, save your money, and retire to Tahiti in your thirties already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:09:11 2022 No.21260960 >>21260930 STEMbugs are miserable and hate their jobs, can't tell you how many whine about not getting into their lab of choice or having to compete with a million pajeets for their codemonkey soulless grind

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:09:41 2022 No.21260962 >>21260915 Philosophychads will never stop winning

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:12:11 2022 No.21260971

>>21260850
>because it perpetuates liberal society
I view it as a rite of passage for the (upper) middle class. When viewed from outside it looks really dumb. It is comically inefficient in terms of job formation in most fields. It is just as terrible as an indirect filter. A two hours IQ test would be about as reliable as (if not more than) obtaining a diploma and I say this as someone having mixed ideas about IQ, which makes it double lolsy when the state bans hiring based on IQ and other psychometric tests. It is perpetuated because it participates to a cultural identity and entrenched interests.
African spear chuckers making ridiculous dances (even in their own eyes) around the fire at least only takes one evening instead of the three/five years of current diploma mills, and they don't get into debt for it (or plumb public budgets for communist funding of diploma mills).
Having said that I fully understand why young adults still go there. It's just a matter of fact that many fields are closed without the holy diploma. It's ridiculous in 90% of cases but changing that state of affairs involves far reaching transformations of society completely out of reach of the isolated 18 yo or his parents.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:16:52 2022 No.21260992

>>21260971
That alone doesn't make sense because nowadays, the large majority of high school graduates go to college, including middle and working-class students who will go on to be middle and working-class. It also doesn't make sense because other countries have upper middle classes but colleges aren't as much of a cultural force as they are in English-speaking countries. That's true even for most European countries.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:24:49 2022 No.21261029

>>21260992
Aside from the Anglo world, it's certainly the case in France and Italy for which I can attest. The big exception in Europe would be Germany which has maintained a massive more classical system of job training. Hence they aren't locked out of the upper middle class by not attending college type institutions, but it is not the norm in the rest of Europe.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:25:15 2022 No.21261035

>>21260960

I'm sure you are right, but it's beside the point because the survey question is not "are you miserable at your job". The survey question is "do you regret your major", and the results clearly indicate that hard STEM majors do not regret their majors as much has humanities/"softer" majors do, as the former are generally unlisted in this purported "top" group.

There's a glut of STEM majors and many of them are unhappy with their jobs, yes. But the data strongly suggest that they nevertheless have a positive emotional attachment to the completion of their majors because they perceive it as having greater value and higher status than the "soft" majors. Basically they completed the basic credential which says to the world "I am a smart person", and they'll always have that. Basically, they feel that they are better than the others and they have a piece of paper to prove it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:26:48 2022 No.21261043 CS here. I never regretted anything more than finishing with this soul sucking major. I will chop off my cock before I go back to working IT or being a code monkey, most of my previous coworkers already are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:29:03 2022 No.21261051 >>21261029 I believe it is the case in Spain, Portugal, and Austria as it is in Germany, in which case, you should be able to see how the demarcations here support what I said.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:30:52 2022 No.21261061 >>21260812 Psychology is very surprising, I barely know anyone who has a good job with that major. Maybe they just like the topic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:34:33 2022 No.21261072 File: 69 KB, 678x590, 1665368090701818.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21260487 and yet you still gave money to a souless bugman system for your degree? damn kid you're so deep

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:36:45 2022 No.21261086

>>21258521
Medicine has gotten fucked over and while it still has some social status and tends to have decent to good wages and career prospects, the toll of bureaucracy and assembly line medicine means there’s little meaning and a ton of stress with the job. Idyllic ideas of family practice docs or “doing good” are dead. It’s industrial warehousing of bodies. Docs get maybe 15 minutes with a patient and don’t have time to form connections or do proper anamnesis. Everything revolves around hastily guessed diagnoses and pushing pills on patients and then assuming it worked unless the patient comes back to complain.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:37:00 2022 No.21261089

>>21258052
English being such a poor area of study is definitely a result of bad education instead of the actual subject. Learning the literary canon and and refining your writing can be vital to many jobs if you focus on critical thinking, technical writing, analysis, etc. But instead if you take English courses in America you're just gonna learn about how oppressed trannies, blacks and woman are. That's the entire field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:44:12 2022 No.21261118 File: 62 KB, 817x857, 1657573068724.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21260882 >CS major who regrets getting into this soulless bugmen-filled trade and here's the cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:51:31 2022 No.21261141 >>21261043 then quit crying about it here and work towards a better path for yourself or fix my computer, it keeps on shutting itself off

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 19:55:43 2022 No.21261162 File: 188 KB, 428x305, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21261072 If I could go back in time and make my teenage self read techno-skeptic writers I would, but unfortunately my degree never taught me how to build a time machine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 20:17:18 2022 No.21261225 I was an english lit major but work in finance/portfolio mgmt. Is the grass greener? Lately been thinking of jobs in publishing, or if i'd continued to a ma or phd?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 21:02:02 2022 No.21261334 >>21261141 I am. Got a job as a wilderness firefighter

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 21:03:18 2022 No.21261339 >>21261225 I left finance to get an MA and ended up dropping it within the first year, so I can't recommend it even though I would never go back to finance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 21:45:38 2022 No.21261516 >>21260929 >its socialization >completely static peer group for 12+ years in controlled environments and authoritarily appointed leadership >socialization Its obedience training.

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 22:04:54 2022 No.21261585

>>21258521
Biology is too broad. It is encompasses all off plants, microbiology, physiology, genetics, ecology and some bioinformatics in one. Then you specialize in a smaller area later. This causes you to follow a bunch of stuff that just doesn't matter and a lot of people will have less interest in pretty big areas of their degree. They will also often be less specialized in areas then full degrees which are far more focused on one of those. Things like biotechnology for microbiology and genetics, bioinformatics for the whole computational branch or agrotechnology or plant science for plants is far better than just doing biology. It is also one of those studies like law, economics or business which people choose if they don't know what they want to do. It also doesn't help a bunch of girls specialize in things like ecology, again because cute animals, which is pretty useless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 22:26:35 2022 No.21261655 File: 48 KB, 494x433, i_kekd_7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21260072 >political science >for people who don't know what "science" means

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 23:20:40 2022 No.21261857 >>21261339 Where did you go instead after dropping the MA?

Anonymous Tue Nov 15 23:36:43 2022 No.21261925

I studied accounting, and I deeply regret it. It amazed me going into the workforce is that people actually seem to like this stuff, and I always feel like the odd one out because of it.
I think studying some humanities subject would have been far more fulfilling. I always feel that I am intellectually malnourished because I spent my time learning a glorified trade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 15 23:48:41 2022 No.21261966 >>21258052 Topkek. I'm a civil engineer and making over $80,000 just four years into the job.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 00:07:36 2022 No.21262047

>>21261225
It's just bizarre to me that a self aware person can look at the publishing industry in 2022 and think that they have a snowball's chance in hell if they're male and white. All your coworkers would hate you and you'd literally never be promoted. You'd have a higher chance of getting a job as a nail technician.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 00:24:00 2022 No.21262091 >>21262047 Book publishers barely sell any books anyways. It's a dying industry.

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Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:24:53 2022 No.21262335
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STEM here.
I work in a quiet lab, all by myself. No cube farm, no open office.
I have my own thermostat. It's as warm or cold as *I* want it to be. Not someone else.
It's dead silent all day. I can actually concentrate.
I do R&D for a major aerospace manufacturer.
Our team doesn't have "guest workers" because we do government work.
I worked very hard to get here.
And you pseuds with your phony-baloney non-STEM degrees deserve the Hell you're burning in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:30:47 2022 No.21262360 >>21258052 >tfw fell for the engineering meme

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:37:34 2022 No.21262383

>>21262065
possibly one of the worst takes of all time, truly lit has been invaded by idiotic anti-intellectual 'just be manly make things' idiots who will always be ruled by and dominated by forces greater than them, and always wondering why things never turn out in their favour
fuck off and never return

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:48:21 2022 No.21262417 >>21258602 >average engineering students get 6 digits part time internships before they even graduate tho t. californian/coastie

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:50:38 2022 No.21262423 File: 1.26 MB, 1440x1421, 1668563383944.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw art student >everyone says my degree is useless and I'm wasting my time >I'm having fun in school for the first time, and developing a skill I treasure

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:56:01 2022 No.21262434 >>21262423 Let us know how you feel when you have to pay bills every week

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:57:54 2022 No.21262444 >>21262434 >paying bills Are you a faggot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:58:21 2022 No.21262448 >>21262423 Yes, as a matter of fact, I would like fries with that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 01:59:53 2022 No.21262454 >>21262448 Fuck you fashist

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:00:19 2022 No.21262456

>>21260072
>urban planning

The two things you can do with that are 1) become a local government bureaucrat approving blueprints all day or 2) work for a real estate developer planning out new soulless housing estates. Money is pretty decent tho, depending where you are.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:08:42 2022 No.21262477

>>21260992
>That alone doesn't make sense because nowadays, the large majority of high school graduates go to college, including middle and working-class students who will go on to be middle and working-class

Right, which is exactly why a degree is becoming increasingly worthless. It's supposed to be a ticket for social mobility, but now there's an oversupply of tickets and not enough places. Goes a long way to explaining the sort of accelerating social breakdown we see in the Anglo world today - overproduction of potential elites tends to be corrosive for any society that experiences it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:11:03 2022 No.21262484 >>21262454 >art student >spells phonetically ngmi

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:13:10 2022 No.21262495 >>21262335 Do you like working like that? I have a remote job with very little work to do and I hate it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:17:08 2022 No.21262508
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>>21262495
I have plenty of work to do. No chance to get bored.
My company lets me WFH, but the lab is more comfy (and has no yappy neighbor dogs).
And it's one of the best sets of working conditions I've ever had.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:20:48 2022 No.21262521 >>21260087 He’s a low-IQ zogbot, what did you expect?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:23:16 2022 No.21262529 >>21262047 He’s a finance bugman, he has zero self-awareness

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 02:30:38 2022 No.21262561 File: 70 KB, 592x334, joyce-carol-oats-on-young-male-writers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21262047 All too true. Which is why I self-publish on Amazon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 03:07:27 2022 No.21262654 >>21262383 Someone regrets their degree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 03:34:11 2022 No.21262750 >>21262495 >I have a remote job with very little work to do play video games in your free time

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 03:57:30 2022 No.21262837 >>21258052 how is this a win? this is a list of the most "regretted" college majors i don't see mathematics, accounting, or engineering there at all this is similar to saying you're the happiest kid in a mental institution

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:36:30 2022 No.21262936 >>21260175 stemcels are the most miserable people I've ever encountered outside of the top 1%

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:39:05 2022 No.21262941 >>21262456 What would you recommend as an alternative, then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:41:20 2022 No.21262944 >>21262941 Not the person you are replying to, but my brother majored in urban planning. He is currently working at a university, planning new builds and stuff like that. It's not a horrible major, if you are competent and capable.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:44:31 2022 No.21262955

>>21262944
That sounds exactly like something I'd like to do. In my understanding the field is split roughly been practical (government planning approvers and developer planners) and theoretical (more similar to what your brother does). I'd more like to be on the theoretical side.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:46:00 2022 No.21262958 >>21262434 >>21262448 I only care about developing my spirit, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:46:33 2022 No.21262960 >>21258064 Why would you ever wanna major in Philosophy? Philosophy is a fun thing to do on the side. Majoring in it is cringe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:48:24 2022 No.21262961 >>21262960 Its a solid major for people that just want to stay in the cradle of Academia forever, alongside History and English. There's a ton of extant material for teaching and developing critique of (read: masturbating to).

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 04:55:12 2022 No.21262974

>>21262955
There's still a lot of practical stuff that goes into what he goes, like seeking municipal approval for certain things. And you will have to be able to deal with a fair amount of bureaucracy if you plan to work in any form of urban planning, unless the job is entirely theoretical. But honestly, you can make a good living of it. Since he works for a university, they helped pay for his masters degree as well. Not a bad gig.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 06:36:28 2022 No.21263192 >>21262335 Deadass bragging about the years and hours invested in getting the great satan to let you climate control your servitude lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 07:24:39 2022 No.21263276 File: 249 KB, 446x446, 5646238769693.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >loved history more than anything else in college >it's completely useless

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 07:36:16 2022 No.21263311 >>21258064 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 07:38:52 2022 No.21263320 >>21258521 If I had to guess either zero jobs, or people that thought they wanted to be a doctor realizing they didn’t or couldn’t and now have a worthless premed type degree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 07:46:13 2022 No.21263335 >>21262960 I just can't bring myself to care about anything else. If I weren't studying philosophy, there isn't much I would have liked to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 07:49:34 2022 No.21263344 >>21258052 another way to view these statistics is that they are meters of how uncertain people attracted to different majors are. In other words, the higher up a major is on that scale, the more it attracts people without clear goals in life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 08:34:51 2022 No.21263406 >>21262335 worst thing about STEM is that they turn people into awfully boring figures, the most I ever hear from STEM people is gaming or a pastime that makes them forget their job is stagnating their lives buttfast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 08:36:22 2022 No.21263408 >>21262434 >>21262448 >go to art school >begome NEET >never pay tuition fee back >keep expenses low, bills dont sink you

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 08:59:46 2022 No.21263459 >>21260573 If you got another chance, what STEM degree would you choose instead?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 09:07:49 2022 No.21263473 >>21262335 Sounds good, how many hours do you work and how mmuch do you get paid?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 09:25:53 2022 No.21263521 >>21260812 How tight is your pussy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 09:25:58 2022 No.21263522 >>21258521 Stress, during exam season, med students have the highest suicide rates.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 09:26:59 2022 No.21263523 >>21263522 suicidal thoughts*, fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 11:55:09 2022 No.21263750 >>21262750 Not exactly a solution

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 11:58:04 2022 No.21263756 >>21258052 What's the point of journalism when you basically write stories/articles according to the values of whoever hires you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:05:49 2022 No.21263766 >>21260882 No they don't lmao, they don't regret it because they get easy jobs for life

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:06:18 2022 No.21263768

>>21258521
Girl I know did biomed but didn't end up getting a related job. Just worked retail for a few years then went back for another science degree but specialising in radiology or something

Think she is going to have better luck? She is 30 next year and her bf who she has been with since she was 24 still hasn't proposed either. So I don't know what the plan is considering she still has 2 more years of her degree. Then if she is lucky to finally get a related job by the time she is 33 or 34? But when is her bf going to propose for her to start a family? Is she going to have wasted the employers time and fucking them over by getting married and getting pregnant shortly after finally getting a radiology job? If she does, will she go back immediately or was going for that degree just awaste of time and effort?

I feel kind of bad desu because she is middle eastern and dating a white guy. And I think he whole family is wondering why TF they aren't married yet. She probably already gave the pussy up too to him (i rmembered her posting some article a few years ago about sex releasing endorphins) so I'm guessing white guy doesn't feel he needs to get married anymore? She is also not as hot as she used to and starting to lose her looks and body

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:08:40 2022 No.21263775 The absolute cope and seethe that STEMchads generate in this illiterate board will never not be amusing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:10:47 2022 No.21263781 >>21262417 NTA but duh, that's where all the good schools are. (You did go to a good school didn't you?)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:16:47 2022 No.21263792 The absolute cope and seethe that STEMchads generate in this illiterate board will never not be amusing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:32:16 2022 No.21263825 File: 106 KB, 738x688, pepe-suit-glasses-nerd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21263192 It's better than hot, noisy, and/or low-paid work. Where the hell are my fries already?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:33:22 2022 No.21263826 File: 137 KB, 860x819, pepe-nerd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21263406 Then they retire early, because they can afford to, and enjoy life far more than you ever will.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:35:25 2022 No.21263831 >>21263473 40/week, and enough to put me in the top 20% of U.S. earners.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:36:23 2022 No.21263832

>>21263406
Do you think any other office job is any different? Do you think excel jockeys are interesting, passionate people? No. I've always felt like if you find yourself at 30 in an office career, you've already lost whether you're programming or using Excel sheets.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:38:11 2022 No.21263836

>>21263756
People mistakenly believe that the way to do that is by getting a Journalism degree. In reality, it's being someone's kid and schmoozing at a prestigious school. The biography of now Senator John Ossoff, formerly Journalist Ossoff, is the quintessential case.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:42:47 2022 No.21263847

In a capitalist system people only care about the ratio of how much money they make to how much effort it takes.
The idea that capitalism is a system in which creativity and passion thrive is one of the greatest lies ever told.
If I told you to watch paint dry for a million dollars a day you'd do it.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 12:59:38 2022 No.21263867

>>21258521
As a current bio student (not terribly far along mind you), most of my peers seek to not really be all that into biology and they're just doing it because it seemed like the most fun STEM subject. Few of them really seem too psyched about research papers, cell mechanics and biochemistry.
In other words, fucking normies get out of my field REEE

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 13:22:03 2022 No.21263914 >>21263847 Well, it wasn't a lie. It was just true for tech that made money only, consumer products, Ford Model Ts, microwaves, etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:09:37 2022 No.21264134 >>21262335 AHAHAHA you sound insufferable to be around, no wonder why they shunted you off to some corner of the basement. If you learned how to socialize you would probably have a better career/life. t. 6fig “team player” map designer

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:14:49 2022 No.21264146

>>21263825
I‘m a security guard and basically read full time in a temperate room at a quiet desk

I know you have to cope about lost time but maybe you can stop projecting any basis of reality in le gifted child or you’ll be flipping burgers propaganda

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:19:56 2022 No.21264158 >>21258052 I'm in the 52%. I hate my life, sometimes I wish I was illiterate

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:23:22 2022 No.21264166

>>21262335
Good stuff anon. STEM is definitely the way to go. A lad only has to suffer for about 4-5 years, after that you can coast it all and invest in your hobbies while working a good job. Many sour humanities and liberal arts retard will try and be smug with you, but the truth is you have made it. Godspeed STEMbro.
>>21264146
Until you get laid off and have to go find your next security gig, which won't be so good. Save yourself the suffering, go to college for Engineering or Math, it will only take a few years - a massive payoff.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:34:54 2022 No.21264186
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>>21264166
You don't understand. If we don't like a post we find a new post. if we don't like the hours we decide our own hours. We do exactly what we want at all times.
If you want to monetize your passion you should be a security guard, you don't ever have to concentrate on someone else's vision.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:36:35 2022 No.21264191 >>21260299 So does that mean you're a journalist? If so, can you explain how someone becomes a journalist without a journalism degree?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:40:09 2022 No.21264196 >>21264186 I worked in security for several years. My experience was that it was secure and easy, but paid very little.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:44:38 2022 No.21264212
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>>21264166
>a good job.
STEM jobs can be judged on a 3-point scale.

>well-paid/reliable
>not morally questionable
>interesting

You can pick two of these points. For example, if a STEM job is well-paid/reliable and interesting, you're probably doing military research or something related to military research. Whereas if a job is well-paid and not morally questionable, you're probably designing incredibly specific components of industrial machinery. Interesting and not morally questionable would be research jobs that have a thousand applications for every place, making them unreliable as a career. Therefore, the only way to have an easy time finding a 'good' STEM job is if you're a one in a million genius, you don't care about contributing to the military industrial complex, or you're willing to work on stuff that would put most people to sleep. Most people will make peace with working on the boring stuff, but it takes a while to accept that ater 4 years of learning interesting science at university.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:45:34 2022 No.21264217 >>21258563 >NNNNOOOO you can't graduate with a History and Economics degree and then work for an investment bank thanks to family connections! Lol have fun spending 9 years in medical school or whatever

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:49:42 2022 No.21264236 >>21263408 This. Unless by some struck of divine fortune I become rich, why would I ever pay them? I don't care about Jewish inventions such as "credit score." You can literally just refuse to pay kek.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:53:49 2022 No.21264247

>>21264212
Not that anon. My problem with stem jobs is that everyone who gets into them ends up being a soulless, insect-like, apparition of a human. I say this as someone who changed his major from CS to philosophy even though I was enjoying it and I was doing well.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 15:57:58 2022 No.21264265

>>21258052
sociology is a good field of study, but a shitty misapplied college degree by students

gender studies did to sociology what twitter did to journalism, even the professors visually hate it generally - classes are full of bleeding hearts that have a tough time holding an actual conversation

>t. sociology for prelaw

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:02:55 2022 No.21264275 >>21258563 There is no way you are not a NEET

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:04:09 2022 No.21264284 >>21264191 learn ap style and message editors at your local paper with story ideas

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:08:05 2022 No.21264294
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>>21258052
Journalism major just about to graduate
Intense regret
A workplace filled with fags and everyone you try to interview is skeptical of you because said fags have ruined a once prestigious craft.
I am unironically learning how to code (and cope)

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:10:03 2022 No.21264300
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>>21258052
My friend who majored in Russian studies literally works for Glowsticks International now. He never said he works for them ofc, but it's kind of obvious when he lives in McClean, Virginia and had a security clearance process.
I honestly wonder what that career is like. We argue so much about STEM vs Arts when it comes to finding private sector jobs, I forgot that Intelligence Agencies just hire people like normal companies do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:11:53 2022 No.21264303 >>21264247 Being dispassionate is a happier state of being

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:12:21 2022 No.21264304

>>21264294
You’re not going to make it in comp sci now, anon. Don’t you fucking dare become another half-assed techie retard who goes into the industry just to fuck up the same shit that’s been working fine for years. Don’t fucking do it, you piece of shit

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:13:22 2022 No.21264308

>>21258052
I wonder how the list would be organized if salary and employment wasn't a fact. I imagine little soul ventures such as accounting and finance would be top of the list. Which interesting man takes artistic pleasure to indulge in such bores? On the other hand, the subject matters presented on that list- sans journalism- I could study in my free time with no expectations of accolades

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:23:30 2022 No.21264337 >>21264308 >I wonder how the list would be organized if salary and employment wasn't a fact. Higher education wouldn't exist and the masses would be starving to death you retarded communist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:26:46 2022 No.21264347 >>21264294 You're in luck. In the age of YouTube and Substack, you don't need to work for anyone if you don't want to.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:35:43 2022 No.21264374

>>21258521
>i remember dating
You meant to say you were in an unlawful relationship to fornicate. Just because you hide your illicit actions and disguise them with elegant words doesn't make them right. This is like saying you remember "borrowing" something that you stole, or "expiring" someone that you murdered. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. Repent zoomer or your sins will drag you to hell. Just because it is legal according to man's laws, doesn't make it right with God. He views and chastises all mortal sins equally and with eternal punishment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:42:05 2022 No.21264395 >>21258064 Philosophyfags have no regret due to their sophisticated method of copiums

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:44:28 2022 No.21264403 >>21261966 CS broz be capping over a 100k as freshers. Kys poorfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:56:13 2022 No.21264439 >>21258521 Lots of students, not enough jobs In my country PhDs holders are underpaid and no one can have a stable job until they're 35 People literally work retail after their masters

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 16:56:20 2022 No.21264440 >>21264403 Don't start this shit. You'll give me flashbacks to when I still lurked /sci/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:01:19 2022 No.21264463 File: 130 KB, 511x510, chud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21264374 t.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:09:04 2022 No.21264488 File: 61 KB, 435x659, 432432s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21258052 mathematician chads rise up. we undertake a test where verbal IQ is all that matters and we still mog everyone else specializing in verbal IQ.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:41:54 2022 No.21264568 >>21264374 Fucking lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:44:21 2022 No.21264573 >>21260882 CS majors have the ultimate freedom in an Information Age civilization

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:46:46 2022 No.21264580 >>21264573 Become a lawyer with your CS degree

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 17:51:11 2022 No.21264593 >>21264580 I have a moral aversion towards lawyers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:07:47 2022 No.21264646 >>21264300 >I honestly wonder what that career is like Ask him?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:25:55 2022 No.21264718 File: 137 KB, 1080x810, 23985d38397e042fc8ea8af4287f53da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21262960 I'm autistic retard with high viq low everything else and this is the highest income major income that lends itself to that

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:27:17 2022 No.21264723 >>21258052 I'm surprised there's no law.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:44:33 2022 No.21264776 >>21264723 Lawyers are soulless parasites, of course they love their jobs

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:47:27 2022 No.21264781

>>21260654
Speaking from the perspective of a drop out, lots of people flat out don't respect you if you don't have a four year degree.

And yeah, university is a four year babysitting program for rich teenagers, but it's also an opportunity to party and sleep with rich teenagers.

When you're out you're mostly stuck to go nowhere jobs surrounded by boomers and married X-ers, and the kids who did go to college stay in those gated work-from-home communities and circles that you don't have access to.

I don't think a degree has any real financial or moral value, but the university system does a very good job at creating a class society while making sure the people who's opinions matter have the right opinions.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 18:54:39 2022 No.21264806

>>21264781
We've been living in a world utterly dominated by the middle class for the last 200-300 years and the University system has evolved into the over-valued monstrosity that it is precise because university degrees are exactly the sort of thing the middle class overvalues. It's a symptom of bourgeois values running amok. They use them as a signal to say "I can fit into this social circle, this professional class. I have money and connections and I'm a careerist. I can be an intellectual and a socializer." So the reason you are not respected is not that you missed out on something intrinsically respectful per se, but because this society is dominated by people who care about them way too much.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:05:30 2022 No.21264858

>>21258521
It's the same thing as philosophy degrees and law school. A lot of people take the biosci track to become doctors, but getting into med school is hard, especially if you're the average biosci major who goes to an average school, gets a 3.0 gpa, and parties for 4 years with no extracurriculars/ internships/ volunteering/ relevant medical experience. So you get passed over in favor of the Nigerian with a 4.0 and an immigrant sob story or the girl who worked as an EMT while in CC, and you're left with a degree in an oversaturated field with no real job prospects,.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:08:23 2022 No.21264871

>>21260625
No, some universities have a general degree that is called liberal arts or general studies. Philosophy can be part of such degree, but the degree has no such emphasis. As I understand it, you mix and match classes and complete gen eds to the satisfaction of your advisor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:17:08 2022 No.21264908 >>21264580 I suspect CS majors would probably perform pretty well on the LSAT, since Math Majors tend to be one of the highest performing groups and CS is basically just applied math.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:27:44 2022 No.21264951

>>21264806
No, I realize that anon. My parents are perfect examples of those bourgeois values and have treated me with contempt ever since I dropped out. It's interesting hearing them talk with their upper middle class friends, because there really is a sense that if everybody without a degree or a COVID vaccine we're rounded up into death camps tomorrow they'd just be getting what they deserve. The college I dropped out of was considered fairly elite (not Ivy, but close) so I also saw firsthand that bourgeois careerist mentality, where you'd have students who dedicate years into pet causes for the poor and disenfranchised, but refuse to even consider the idea of opening their respective job fields to "the uneducated", regardless of talent.

My biggest takeaway from elite universities, and meeting lots of students from elite prep schools, is that the upper class cheats like motherfuckers and fully expects the deck to be stacked in their favour. If the poor do this they generally go to jail. There's nothing respectable about our current system, and it should be resisted by any means necessary

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:32:31 2022 No.21264968

>>21264951
You shouldn't view your parents with resentment though. It's just part of the culture now and they're bred into the culture. On an individual level, I do think that given the way things are, you should go to university and finish if you can do so cheaply and agreeably enough. You do yourself a disservice if you don't because like I said, it's the way things are now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:33:24 2022 No.21264974 >>21258052 i'm in the 64% percent, probably just gonna switch to economics even though i have no interest in it and am awful at math. gotta graduate in 2 years with something of value at least

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 19:33:32 2022 No.21264976 >>21264781 >>21264806 Finishing a four year degrees is a reasonable measure of conscientiousness (as in the big 5 trait). It is a poor measure of intelligence, but for some reason society is convinced it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:05:53 2022 No.21265089 >>21264951 I've seen generic sales jobs that will only hire people who graduated from a top ten university, but don't give a fuck what their degree is in. It's a blackpill to realise how much class still matters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:09:44 2022 No.21265107 >>21265089 Class isn't worth talking about anon, haven't you heard about how hard biPOC have things?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:36:00 2022 No.21265233 >>21264974 Economics typically involves a lot of math.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:36:17 2022 No.21265234

>>21265107
I think the powers that be might start running into problems with the old 'increase diversity and get the races to fight amongst themselves trick'. Pitting people against each other requires them to be separate, but the elites keep pushing for diversity. The more people that grow up around other races in the same shit community, the more that are going to realise that they have more in common with each other than the educated elites telling them how oppressed they are.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:46:57 2022 No.21265276

>>21265234
They'll cross that bridge when they come to it. For now Princeton had to make sure it stays relevant. That's they started the whole diversity push when occupy wallstreet was growing. They have the sons and daughters of African oligarchs at ivies, (and most of the blacks at those schools are not descendents of American slavery) but they can't claim to be both the elite and the poor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:49:11 2022 No.21265284 >>21265233 ive got no choice, im too paranoid to continue with communications and end up doing nothing after college

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 20:59:33 2022 No.21265317

>>21264968
Unfortunately going to university would require moving and going into a lot of debt/working 60 hours a week. Since I dropped out, higher tier universities/colleges don't want me, so it's a matter of attending community college for two years then transferring.

Right now I make a comfortable wage working three hours a day in a satisfying and intellectually stimulating field. When I need a degree I lie about having one and falsify documents.

>>21265089
A phenomenon I've noticed recently is people who are clearly upper class inventing sob stories about themselves because their grandma was half brown or their dad worked two jobs one summer and they had to sell their third house.

Class is extremely important, but there's this fantastical delusion that's sold to people where it's not existent and everyone has earned their position through merit and hardwork. This is obviously good for the ruling class, since it both makes them invisible and also sets them up as being inherently superior to other people (and therefore deserving of their position). But it's toxic for the health of society in general.

>>21265107
Pierre Vallières once wrote that while black and brown people are horribly exploited and disparaged as niggers, it's the white working class people that imagine themselves as somehow superior to their fellow working man on account of race who are the true niggers. They're doubly niggers, on account of their niggardly disregard for their fellow man.

The new generation of POC activists who are comfortably middle class, but still weaponize racial resentment for careerist self advancement, the legions of upper middle class socialites who have no problem using words like "White Trash" while pontificating about why the white working class is both contemptible and not discriminated against in any way (but they should be) who are the double niggers of the modern era. I have no problem calling these people niggers squared, and neither should you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 21:11:34 2022 No.21265344 >>21265284 If your school offers a BA and a BS, do the BA.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 21:15:31 2022 No.21265357

>>21260072
>>21260858
If you want to get your hands dirty but also draft academic papers then it's going to be STEM (especially civil engineering in your case), medicine, or something low-paying and stressful like archaeology or geology. Maybe Forestry/Forest Management?

Personally I'm in law and it's not too bad, but that's probably because I'm borderline autistic about torts and personal injury.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 21:26:25 2022 No.21265409

>>21265317
>A phenomenon I've noticed recently is people who are clearly upper class inventing sob stories about themselves

I think that 'my great-grandmother was an immigrant' is the modern, Western equivalent of kings claiming descent from some great conqueror. It's the heroic origin story they use to justify their position. The difference is that an explicit 'the weak should fear the strong' mentality contradicts the values of the modern world, so the rich have to come up with some bullshit about how they are just like everyone else instead. They want the appearance of being humble, but it's buried multiple generations back so they don't have to deal with the negative aspects of being truly working class.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 22:02:00 2022 No.21265524

>>21265409
Yeah, some rich fag tried that shit with me because his mom was an /immigrant/ from Sweden. Then he went off bragging about how he wants to travel to Africa to feed the niggers and tried to cuck me with some girl I'd been fucking.

I pissed in his milk and destroyed several thousand dollars worth of his property so I could bait him into starting a fistfight and pull a knife on him. In the end he just slinked off with his tail between his legs.

What I hate most about this humble posturing is that these pussies have no idea how hard it is to actually be working class. At least I can respect the kings of old for their brutality. The new aristocracy of prissy faggots claiming some tearjerker origin story is insane. I'm supposed to live a life of inferiority to these bitches because... their cousin was addicted to drugs or something but then they went to a 100k/year private school for ten years? Fuck that.

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 22:04:44 2022 No.21265541

>>21265317
>A phenomenon I've noticed recently is people who are clearly upper class inventing sob stories
It's so fucking bad at major rich people universities, they ALLLLLLLL call themselves "middle class" when their parents make mid six figures to seven figures combined

They ALL call themselves "workers" because they do a SHIT job working an absentee-owner cafe next to their university campus less than 20 hours a week and don't even make half their rent on their own

I fucking hate rich people

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 22:13:02 2022 No.21265606 >>21265344 It offers a BA in economics. Only a couple required math courses, heavily considering switching to it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 22:22:09 2022 No.21265640 >>21262423 see ya in 10 years buddy

Anonymous Wed Nov 16 22:25:54 2022 No.21265655

>>21265317
they're called bohos and are their upward social mobility combined with ebony tower politics is the #1 reason the west is dying. Progressivism is unironically a class war, the majority of MSM pundits are upper class and connected by university degree brainwashing

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 23:47:56 2022 No.21265951 >>21265606 If it's a somewhat reputable university, it's probably a fine choice. I got mine from a "public ivy" and it wasn't hard to find employment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 16 23:53:40 2022 No.21265968 >>21258052 Least regretted are probably quantitative fields like math and stats, as well as economics and finance.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 00:27:31 2022 No.21266081

>>21264806
>It's a symptom of bourgeois values running amok
This isn't the thread for it but can anyone recommend books about development of bourgeois, or even "The Bourgeoisie", conceptually speaking? I know nothing, the words mean next to nothing to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 00:52:40 2022 No.21266169 >>21264463 >>21264568 >The sinner shall watch the just man: and shall gnash upon him with his teeth. >But the Lord shall laugh at him: for he foreseeth that his day shall come.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 00:53:41 2022 No.21266171 >>21264580 You can unlike medical school which requires pre-requisites even if you know everything. Ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 00:57:00 2022 No.21266182 >>21266081 Manifesto of the Communist Party by Karl Marx and Fredriech Engels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:07:49 2022 No.21266218 >>21258052 >Education >61% Can confirm. I'd say the percentage may be even higher.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:11:05 2022 No.21266229 >>21266081 It's an interesting question. I think most people come to the term either through Marxists or Conservative Revolutionaries, but none of them wrote a whole book about the bourgeoisie afaik.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:35:11 2022 No.21266287 >>21258072 It's "liberal arts/general studies," so basically doing a liberal arts degree without an actual specification. If it was an umbrella for all liberal arts degrees then "English language + literature" would be part of that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:38:10 2022 No.21266296 >>21260882 That just means you're part of the 28%, it doesn't prove anything except that you're a weak-willed faglord.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:44:40 2022 No.21266318
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>>21264134
Not in the basement...on the 1st floor, right next to a door outside, so I can get fresh air any time I want.
And I'm there by choice.
People come by all the time.
And I'm amused that you're faulting anyone for their ability to socialize, given that 4chan is basically a refuge for antisocial autistic nerds.
In short...you suck.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:50:29 2022 No.21266338
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>>21263406
Not true, at least among my immediate team.
One plays drums.
One is an incredibly good rock guitarist; he even gives lessons on the side. But making it in the entertainment business is nigh-impossible.
One is a green thumb & has an extensive garden.
One is a double kung-fu black-belt.
One restores classic autos.
And I write fiction, mostly short stories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:51:35 2022 No.21266343 lmao at you plebs. every time some atheist faggot or whatever other redditor calls me retarded I just remind myself that I studied law at oxford and get paid 6 figs for doing fuck all work. eat shit the lot of you

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:52:49 2022 No.21266350 File: 14 KB, 310x326, 0149 - WYr3lct.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21264212 I have all 3. I work in aerospace. The intensely perfectionist, safety-critical nature of our work filters out a lot of pretenders, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:54:46 2022 No.21266356 >>21266343 It’s not hard to believe in God born with a silver spoon in your mouth, faggot.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:54:50 2022 No.21266357

>>21264300
Indeed.
One of the few decent jobs a liberal-arts type can pick up is being an intelligence analyst.
Of course, you have to have a clean record and pass a drug test...which filters out most liberal-art types.
>>21264646
He can't say what his job is like...it's classified.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:56:14 2022 No.21266360 >>21264580 If you're so inclined, go for it! You could probably clean up as a patent attorney if you actually understand CS. Lord knows the patent attorneys I have to deal with don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:56:40 2022 No.21266365 >>21258052 As limited as Lit is; you can still enter a variety of careers while journalism is dying bevause libs hijacked it to create propaganda. Respect for journalism has plummeted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:58:02 2022 No.21266370 >>21258561 Sounds rough...then again usually low IQ atheists are biology majors

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 01:58:53 2022 No.21266378 >>21266365 Respect for college has also plummeted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:00:22 2022 No.21266384 >>21260573 I'm getting real sick of Indians coming here and taking our best jobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:00:38 2022 No.21266385 >>21266343 And yet, here you are on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:02:32 2022 No.21266390 >>21260812 I am surprised by Psychology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:02:33 2022 No.21266391 File: 2.64 MB, 1920x1080, homeless-camp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21262423 Here's a glimpse of your future. Now get off your dead ass and prevent this atrocity!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:06:17 2022 No.21266403 >>21260971 It signals wealth or discipline. Either you starved yourself and signed up for debt slavery or mommy payrolled.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:13:51 2022 No.21266421

>>21262335
Housewife here.
I relax in a quiet, cozy living room, all by myself. No cube farm, no open office.
I have my own thermostat. It's as warm or cold as *I* want it to be. Not someone else.
It's dead silent all day. I can actually concentrate on my soap opera.

I didn't have to work at all for this and feel sorry for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:16:32 2022 No.21266432 >>21262561 Nobody wants a man critical of his own priviledge. Sounds like another stupid liberal

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:20:08 2022 No.21266437 >>21263768 I know a similar situation. Ethnic girl throws everything at white guy. He gets attached to situation but can't get out because she's not marriage material but hes addicted to the sex.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:21:57 2022 No.21266443 >>21266378 Also the fault of liberals (who are just Commies)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:35:50 2022 No.21266488 >>21266421 Hopefully your husband isn't getting some on the side. How much does he "work late"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:36:57 2022 No.21266491 >>21266432 Anarcho-libertarian, actually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:43:38 2022 No.21266519 >>21263768 >late 20s-to-early 30s females hitting a dead end in life after failing to get married and putting their college education to use many such cases, i might even say too many

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:45:02 2022 No.21266524 >>21264212 Good analysis. My last job was well-paid and interesting, but I was coding for a fucking hedge fund. I had to leave eventually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:48:19 2022 No.21266536 >>21262561 I'm curious: got a link to the page for your Amazon book?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:49:21 2022 No.21266540 >>21264284 Or literally just start interviewing people and pítch your findings to media outlets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:49:58 2022 No.21266544 >>21264374 Chill out bro we didn't even fuck. Just cuddled naked a few times.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:51:34 2022 No.21266546 >>21258521 biology has no jobs medical has jobs that wear your spirit to dust

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 02:58:34 2022 No.21266574

I am a failure of a person with no careerist ambitions, no friends and no job. I genuinely have no idea how so many people my age can balance university, a job and going to the gym every day. I can barely attend a lecture without fighting the urge to kill myself

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:00:44 2022 No.21266586
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>>21266536
I do, but I don't want to be a spam-shiller.
Instead, why don't you look through the author pastebin in >>>/lit/wg/ .
Read some of the "Look Inside" portions on Amazon.
See if you find something you like.
We could all use a break.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:00:57 2022 No.21266588 >>21266574 >balance university, a job and going to the gym every day Either they're doing an easy major or they're incredibly smart. If you're having an urge to kill yourself then you don't belong there/chosen the wrong major.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:04:56 2022 No.21266600

>>21264304
Don't listen to this guy
>>21264294
Listen buddy. I majored in applied mathematics, despite not knowing what the hell I wanted to do with such a degree. There's a chance you might be impressed by that: I tell people about my degree, and it always seems to make them think I'm smart or something. But I'll level with ya: applied math is basically just a business degree for smart people. We didn't even do any theorems.
So anyway, after graduating and coming home to my parents, I found they were furious with me for not having put any work into internships and developing real skills. So I was forced to teach myself to code, and let me tell you: that was not fun.
It was hard work, and harder still to do it under my the disapproving gaze of my mother. But I pulled it off, and managed to land a job at that hedge fund I mentioned in the other comment. So it's possible to pull through, you just have to work for it.
My advice is: there are staffing agencies out there that teach people the in-demand skills. You work for them for a while in exchange for their training, but after that, you're free. So I'd say you should start by doing online courses through Coursera or LinkedIn Learning or whatever. And then after that, once you've learned enough to do the coding assesment for one of these places, you can take their boot-camp course and learn what's REALLY in the market. After that, you should be good to go.
Mind you, I got a little lucky. The staffing agency I trained at was Cook Systems, and I was able to weasle my way out of the contract that would've forced me to work for them for two years. Still, I've done pretty good, all things considered. My life has had its ups and downs, on account of my choices. But a little hard work and you can get back on track.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:11:00 2022 No.21266620 >>21265655 > ebony tower politics Lol I like that.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:14:43 2022 No.21266636

>>21265409
>I think that 'my great-grandmother was an immigrant' is the modern, Western equivalent of kings claiming descent from some great conqueror. It's the heroic origin story they use to justify their position
You hit the nail on the head, here. I'm gonna start bringing this up

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:18:27 2022 No.21266650 >>21266586 Thanks. Is your work in that pastebin?

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:38:56 2022 No.21266704

>>21258052
Don't send your kids to public school guys.

My brother's kids are in public school and my sisters kid is in Catholic school.

We went to Catholic school and I always thought it wouldn't have mattered much, especially in primary school but fuck. Shit is night and day

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:41:37 2022 No.21266715

>>21266704
Also don't marry a dumb bitch or lazy bitch. Not saying that she has to be a career woman or anything. But if you met her in HS or university just observe if she's the type who puts effort in to get the best grades she can or if she just does the bare minimum. THAT attitude will be transfered to how she raises your kids

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:45:24 2022 No.21266727

>>21266356
Then what the fuck are you complaining about you westoid faggot?
You are the global elite. Atheism has actually declined since the heyday of communism for example except in the West, because aside from secularizing populist politics (which is now dead) atheism is the province of the comfortable urban classes, which is realistically the majority of the western population.
It was also such for the Epicureans in Greece and the Charvakas in India and those movements only lasted as long as the golden ages of their civilizations. For good reason

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:49:38 2022 No.21266740

>>21266574
Most people get shitty degrees at crappy low-tier institutions, work a brain-dead job on the side, and are naturally somewhat athletic.
I'm an autistic PhD student at a top global research hospital and after my workday I just go home and shitpost or watch YouTube for several hours before going to sleep - or I read something for fun, on rare occasions. I can't muster the energy to do anything productive after a 10-12 hour mentally rigorous workday
As far as how this applies to your situation, maybe you have a treatable condition like ADHD or maybe you're just low functioning and doomed to NGMI.
Just find something halfway enjoyable that isn't intolerably hard and do that

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 03:54:06 2022 No.21266753

>>21265409
>>21266636
This reasoning is also why Lebanese immigrants are so successful these days. They're minimally-brown and vaguely religious in a way that's distinctive but not alarming to westoids and also they come from a failed state which regardless has a quite proud elite class
The same would apply to balkanites I expect, except they're too reactionary and / or retarded by nature

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 04:19:41 2022 No.21266828

>>21266704
This is similar to going on /lit/ vs. other boards. /lit/ is on average smarter, but often painfully fucking boring and retarded in a way that only the 'well-educated' are. Like a bunch of stuffy old fools standing around the Gordian knot debating how to untie it. Alexander channeled public school monke energy when he just said fuck it and used his sword.
There are pros and cons to each.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 04:27:56 2022 No.21266852 >have computer science degree >make 200k to click clack on the computer a few hours per week at home in pajamas seethe

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 04:30:14 2022 No.21266854

>>21266740
>maybe you have a treatable condition like ADHD
Honestly considering this possibility at this point. My hyperactive behavior as a child morphed into severe procrastination, with how much anxiety I have and how much my mind wanders I may have some disorder

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 05:12:43 2022 No.21266922 >>21264908 >CS is basically just applied math You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 06:53:19 2022 No.21267088 >>21266828 Alexander was literally privately tutored by Aristotle, who formed the basis of all Catholic education by way of Thomas Aquinas, you retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 06:54:48 2022 No.21267090 >>21266378 Among contrarians. Normal people still like college >>21266852 >Male >Wears pajamas Ngmi

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 06:56:40 2022 No.21267098 My one and only desire is to get a job where I can just work from home a few hours a day and still make good money. I do not want to devote my life to a career unlike most other people.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 07:55:05 2022 No.21267198

my bros, why are you paying tens of thousands of dollars to study at a university/college when all information on the internet, the greatest library ever made in history, is free?
you just need a little bit of motivation and self-control to sift through the useless information to get to the nuggets of gold, you don't even have to be an autodidact because once you figure out where to look, finding information becomes as easy as breathing
t. learning how to make aerospace grade composite parts without getting molested by student loans

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 08:30:14 2022 No.21267263 >>21267198 >living in a country where you have to pay for education >and not in one where you get paid for education It's like you enjoy being cucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 08:33:30 2022 No.21267270 >>21267198 >paying for education I truly pity the American

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 11:23:25 2022 No.21267714 >>21267198 Education entirely free due to perfomance at entrance exams (and now getting paid twice minimum wage for a research fund)

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 11:31:57 2022 No.21267734
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>>21258563
>STEMtrash actually think they aren't factory worker tier peasants
ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhaha
this nigga really thinks he's part of the ruling class with his PMC salary holy fuck ahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahhhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhaha
>self employed aristocracies
Yes, everybody knows the self employed nuclear engineers and heart surgeons

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 11:35:28 2022 No.21267743 >>21258602 My dad makes $500k+ a year building kitchens for richfags Imagine being an engineer holy fuck lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 11:38:55 2022 No.21267747 >>21264908 CS majors are retards >t. wasted my life majoring in math

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 12:46:02 2022 No.21267863

>>21267098
I have a remote job where I have basically no work to do at all. I have meetings and phone calls a few times per week and I manage some spreadsheets once per week. I actually find it pretty terrible. If you despise the work you do, who you do it with, don't get paid much, have nothing to do, nowhere to go, and get little interaction, it's not like it's fun. It feels like a waste of your life.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:03:47 2022 No.21267900

>>21264646
I can't lmao, or at least he can't tell me about it really. Like I said, he doesn't even say he works for them, he only provides vague details about being employed at the Federal government and doing work that required a security clearance background investigation. Obviously none of it is James Bond type shit, but he's probably still contractually obliged to keep his mouth shut since these low level people are often the worst at security leaks.
I can only guess what he does based on his skills, probably translating documents they have there or providing some sort of Russian cultural insights into analysis

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:09:23 2022 No.21267915 >>21266357 >Of course, you have to have a clean record and pass a drug test...which filters out most liberal-art types. Rumor has it they don't really care about weed these days, but they'll kick your ass out if you lied about not consuming it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:15:29 2022 No.21267932 I got a bachelors in law and a masters in political science and I work in a fucking call center selling worthless garbage. Every day I think about killing myself and I regret not studying philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:23:46 2022 No.21267952 >>21267932 Why didn't you become a lawyer?

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:31:57 2022 No.21267963

>>21267952
I never wanted to go to law school and was forced into it by my parents. I thought I could get a masters in a different field (that's why I went for pol sci) and leverage that for work in academia, but unfortunately I live in the Balkans in a highly corrupt country. I cant get a teaching position for pol sci since I'm dirt poor and cant afford a bribe. I never wanted to be a lawyer and just went to law school to please my mom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:33:45 2022 No.21267966 >>21258052 >general studies who is this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:34:45 2022 No.21267969 >>21267963 So do you regret studying law or poli sci more then? In the United States, you can't even study law until you've already received a Bachelor's degree. Did you try getting a job in academia but not on faculty?

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:40:22 2022 No.21267987

>>21267969
I dont regret pol sci since I like reading about history and sociology, and pol sci was the only non law, non economics masters study I could qualify for. Here we have a system where your masters is tied to your bachelors and you can apply for a masters degree for any subject you had in your bachelors. Since my law degree had classes in pol sci I chose that for my masters thesis. I had the option between that, a masters in law or general economics.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:44:48 2022 No.21267999

>>21267969
Also I tried to get a position as faculty but couldn't get anything since every time I applied I just got a response that all positions are filled for the foreseeable future. I'm thinking of saving money for a doctorate and then trying my luck again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 13:51:03 2022 No.21268010 >>21263826 > yeah my life sucks b.. but at 50 I will be able to do what I what

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:09:00 2022 No.21268063

>>21267987
Why didn't you want to study economics?

>>21267999
In the United States, there are more administration than faculty posts. I work in administration for a University and many of my administration peers are people that found themselves in a situation similar to yours.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:24:40 2022 No.21268107

>>21268063
Administration is corrupt here as well you need bribes or a party membership just to get a job as a janitor in public administration. I always preferred history, sociology and philosophy over law and economics. I am trying to get an administrative post in a music school as an archivist but I need to wait a few years until the current one retires. And I can only get that job through connections since my sister works there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:27:12 2022 No.21268113 >>21268063 We have a saying here, "When a new government is formed the janitor in every public office is replaced".

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:28:14 2022 No.21268115

>>21268107
I see. It sounds like it's more difficult than in America. I got an administration post as soon as I graduated and I was not a good student or well-connected. It's possible I just got lucky I guess. I also work frequently with budgets and forecasts so maybe that's not what you want to do. I just figured I'd propose it in case it helped.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:29:01 2022 No.21268117 >>21268107 And its slightly over minimum wage. 5000 dollars a year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:30:14 2022 No.21268119 >>21268113 In the United States, every college has faculty and administrators. The administrators of public colleges are state employees, but the administrators of private colleges are private employees and they have nothing to do with the government.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:31:14 2022 No.21268123 >>21268117 Do you get a pension?

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:33:55 2022 No.21268127

>>21268115
Thanks man, sometimes I forget that the western world isn't as corrupt as us and people can get ahead a lot easier. It's so frustrating living in a corrupt country. As a brief example we have people regularly drunk driving here or getting in first fights on election day and getting no punishments since they have party membership. Cherish your freedom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:35:29 2022 No.21268128 File: 119 KB, 479x635, 4105 - SoyBooru.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >third year of Communication degree at the very least I'm more apt for it than 90% of the other students

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:37:27 2022 No.21268134 >>21268123 Yes, you get a pension. It's small but you can live off it if you are frugal with your funds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:39:07 2022 No.21268141 >>21268127 We still have corruption here. It's just less severe and far more subtle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:44:00 2022 No.21268155 >>21268141 Yeah I know but at least an ordinary person doesn't need to jump through hoops for a starting position.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 14:46:20 2022 No.21268163

>>21268155
But that's because many companies and colleges are so flush with cash that they can just be liberal with their hiring practices. There is still a large amount of nepotism, and in fact, I've seen ranks close in the last few years and it seems not the only people who get in are people with connections, a very particular education, or very particular education. That is a sort of corruption honestly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 16:15:12 2022 No.21268455 File: 198 KB, 1920x1080, 1665363690480789.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21267088 >reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 16:32:36 2022 No.21268497 >>21266350 >intensely perfectionist And then the parts turn out to be out-of-tolerance copies from Mexico.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 17:28:49 2022 No.21268673

>>21260616
it's way too late, buddy, I'm in my last semester
beside that I absolutely do NOT want to work in """business"""
I just chose this major since my mom wanted me to go to college
I'm much more of a liberal arts guy, history and whatnot, but it's not like those sorts of degrees would be useful either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 17:50:50 2022 No.21268734 >>21268128 >I'm more apt for it what does that mean

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 18:29:36 2022 No.21268840

>>21268673
No, it's not too late. It's never too late to change your degree. Please understand that a degree is like a biographical tattoo. As long as you've not yet graduated, you can change it to get a better degree, or better tattoo. But once you graduated with a bad degree, a bad tattoo, it will stay there and you won't be able to rub it off. Give yourself a few years to go somewhere else and do something else for a few years if you're not sure what might be worthwhile, and when you come back with a better idea what to stamp yourself with, it will only take you maybe another year to do it, which in your twenties, will end up looking like the blink of an eye. You might even be able to upgrade and go to a better school. Continuing to get a shitty degree from a shitty school is just a mistake.

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 18:40:24 2022 No.21268870

>>21268840
well I mean it's not that shitty of a school or degree. either way if I want to go back to college, having my management bachelor's won't hurt me. hell if I went to the same school (or someplace which accepted its credits) I figure I could have all my gen ed accounted for. plus I took minors in history and french and those could transfer into a number of subjects I'm more interested in (history, linguistics, etc)

the biggest thing for me is that I often feel like too much of my subject matter is stuff that feels extremely common sense. perhaps it's just hindsight and I really have learned a lot, but it definitely doesn't feel that way.
either way I'll have my good boy sticker so it'll help me get a job, even if I haven't learned a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 18:57:22 2022 No.21268931 >>21268870 I disagree based on my experience but I also realize you aren't going to take my advice so I'll just say I wish you good luck and hope things work out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:01:50 2022 No.21268967 >>21262423 Post art, if its some corporate goyart gtfo

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:13:42 2022 No.21269002

>>21268931
thanks man.
I mean I'll take any advice into consideration, but stopping when I'm three weeks away from graduation would seem awfully silly, wouldn't it?
I suppose you might say that the degree I get could reflect on me in the future, but if need be I can just not mention it, should I ever meet someone who's especially biased against business management majors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:25:27 2022 No.21269051 >>21269002 I still think the best strategy is to go to the best school you can and get the best degree you can, but everyone has to do what they think is best at the time in the end.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:26:58 2022 No.21269058 >>21268840 I'm also planning to switch to economics but I don't care at all for the field and don't know what fulfilling jobs I can have with that degree. But I need to finish college with something of worth so I'll roll with it for these 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:43:54 2022 No.21269124 >>21259182 In Michigan it is. You have to have an education related degree to be certified.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 19:46:08 2022 No.21269136 >>21260048 Ummm anon… fellow psych bachelor holder here… our major falls under liberal arts and sciences

Anonymous Thu Nov 17 23:21:41 2022 No.21270032

>>21258563
Stop being so passive aggressive and say what you mean you fucking flattened featureless faggot.
>enjoy
>have fun
You mean "I hope you're miserable."
Why would you hope that anon?
>subhuman cattle
No matter if you became king, emperor, or God, ceaselessly would you have the soul of a livestock farmer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 23:25:14 2022 No.21270045 >graduated in CS >have a reasonably well paying salaried WFH job with plenty of PTO and "flexible hours" that mean I'm only at my work laptop for maybe an hour a day if that feels cozy man

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 17 23:58:51 2022 No.21270177 >>21260812 Construction CHADS we did it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 00:10:27 2022 No.21270206 >>21264374 Ma'am....

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 01:19:52 2022 No.21270481 >>21268497 You mean Malaysia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 01:46:19 2022 No.21270568 >>21268734 I do good in class

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 02:54:23 2022 No.21270807 >>21269136 No it doesn't. Liberal arts is its own major. See: >>21260812 Psych is still awful though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 03:02:18 2022 No.21270829 File: 157 KB, 1080x730, 1645476985655.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21266753 Oh yeah.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 09:27:05 2022 No.21271783 >>21264217 holy based

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 10:35:28 2022 No.21271878 >>21258064 Phil graduates make some of the biggest cash out of the humanities. Isn't this like common knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 10:39:26 2022 No.21271886 >>21266081 Early Habermas books.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 18 11:43:49 2022 No.21272015 >>21258521 It's a lot of work and at the end of the day I'd rather live humbly and have more free time for friends and family

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