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If metanarratives no real why enlightenment values/liberalism good?

>> No.21239727

>>21239517
Name 3 metanarratives

>> No.21239809

>>21239517
>If metanarratives no real[...]

It is not a problem of whether metanarratives are real, but, rather, it is a problem of which ones are in syncord with the truth of architexture; architextural explication comprehends contextual implication, and inversely, hence how some things can be implicatorily comprehensive —exempli gratia: the Holy Trinity.


>[...]why enlightenment values/liberalism good?

They are the spawn of evil.

>> No.21239852

>>21239727
1) germany bad
2) anglo-saxon culture good
3) communism prevalent in social media

>> No.21240060

>>21239852
If a german says germany bad then one could not trust him as he's german and germany is bad. Therefore germany=/= bad

>> No.21240067

>>21239852
1.) german guilt is a metanarrative

>> No.21240126

>>21239852
those are not metanarratives, you american mongrel

>> No.21240134

>>21239852
second to >>21240126

Metanarratives are God, Progress and Knowledge (its ontological ground)

>> No.21240135

>>21240126
They are metanarratives because they dictate how we perceive other cultures you double-nigger.

>> No.21240144

>>21240134
>ww2 has nothing to do with ontology
>what is analytical vs continental philosophy

>> No.21240149

>>21239517
wouldnt a meta narritive just be a narrative?

>> No.21240197

>>21240135
>>21240144
Do you really thing 'meta-narrative' is some kind of youtube-video-essay category? It is intrinsic to Cont Philosophy. Filthy illiterate americans...

>>21240149
Its a category inherent to the continental critique of modern thought. They are 'narratives', but the kind of 'great narratives' post XIX century philosophy needed to critique (post nietzsche, marx and freud: from heidegger to 1960-70 german and french philosophy)

>> No.21240227

>>21240197
>marx
kikestianisty
>nietzsche
kikestianisty
>heidegger
kikestianisty + weeaboo about zen buddhism
>freud
anglo saxon darwinism

see how it can all be easily explained

>> No.21240437

>>21240227
you must feel really smart

>> No.21240438

>>21240437
>explained easily by cultural context
>proceeds to move the goalpost
waow...theory is....a waste of time & money..

>> No.21240452

>>21240227
>nietzsche
kikestianisty
can you explain? genuinely curious (marx and freud makes sense, dont know much about heidegga to opine)

>> No.21240459

>>21239517
Neither claim is cited son. Go read.

Also watch 2nd half Foucault/Chomsky and explain how Foucault scores.

>> No.21240468

>>21240452
He will not explain, for he has not read any theory whatsoever... just look at his retarded posts...

>> No.21240477

>>21240468
i'll give the guy a chance

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21240492

>>21240468
>theory

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21240501

>>21240477
there you have --> >>21240492

>> No.21240513

>>21240501
Holy furrytroongif

>> No.21240530

>>21240501
aw shucks

>> No.21240535

>>21240477
>>21240452
you dont see it? what about nietzsche larping as a prophet wallowing about eternal recurrence; he also likes to larp as a frenchman and hates his prussian upbringing. that's his entire transvaluation

>> No.21240551

>>21240535
pagans had lots of prophet larping too, but yeah i get that christianity was something nietzsche couldn't get over

>> No.21240565

>>21240197
I guess, though they do still fit within a catagory of narrative. and isnt the critique itself a narritive? as it must stratify its object and set it up in such a way to break it down. a deconstruction first requires a construction to be made by the same hands. and at that point it kind of circles in on itself. Think foucoult mentioned something like this and the necissary paralysis one has to admit for a degree of self honesty in this sort of persuite. think it was in his interveiw with chomsky.

I think this often comes into mind for me when people do attempt to get into meta narritives, where they describe constructs, but then I see source material that oftenbreaks the idea of that construct even existing as a solid thing to begin with, rather a fuzzy vague domain of ideas that often bypasses the "problems" found in something pinned as a metanarrative, and subsequently the deconstruction comes off as a sort of scapegoat or less useful simplification in that retrospect.

>> No.21241446

>>21239517
Name 3 metanarratives

>> No.21242199

>>21239517
>why enlightenment values/liberalism good?
it's not, and the "real" postmodernists (frogs) never said it was

>> No.21242212

>>21239727
Progress
Humanism
Anthropocentrism

>> No.21242232

>>21239517
>why enlightenment values/liberalism good?
not good

>> No.21242579

>>21241446
me, myself, and I.

>> No.21242640

>>21240135
>They are metanarratives because they dictate how we perceive other cultures you double-nigger.
Well said.

>> No.21242663

>>21239809
>It is not a problem of whether metanarratives are real, but, rather, it is a problem of which ones are in syncord with the truth of architexture; architextural explication comprehends contextual implication, and inversely, hence how some things can be implicatorily comprehensive —exempli gratia: the Holy Trinity.
Go on....
>please expand anon

>> No.21242670

>>21240149
>wouldnt a meta narritive just be a narrative?
Yes , that is implied in the Name ;
The use of it is to refer to Context so Vast that numerous Human Activities are all Tied-In ; tangled up in a "Narrative" from which others are in relation to and stem from, either reinforcing the Meta or spawning from it.

>> No.21242683

>>21239852
>1) germany bad
objective truth

>> No.21242732

>>21242670
wouldnt greater narrative or supernarative be a better term then? because meta implies being beyond a narrative structure.

>> No.21242754

>>21239517
ops pic looks like zanik from runescape

>> No.21242969

>>21242732
I always took the use of "meta" as meaning "from above" ; "Higher" ; Beyond as in Upwards ; that which encopases , has further reach ;

>>meta-
>>word-forming element of Greek origin meaning 1. "after, behind; among, between," 2. "changed, altered," 3. "higher, beyond;" from Greek meta (prep.) "in the midst of; in common with; by means of; between; in pursuit or quest of; after, next after, behind," in compounds most often meaning "change" of place, condition, etc. This is from PIE *me- "in the middle" (source also of German mit, Gothic miþ, Old English mið "with, together with, among").

>>The notion of "changing places with" probably led to the senses of "change of place, order, or nature," which was a principal meaning of the Greek word when used as a prefix (but it also denoted "community, participation; in common with; pursuing").