The greatest book of the 20th century

[Anonymous No.21211539]

'The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times' is René Guénon's most prophetic work, which only becomes more relevant with each passing year. Having seen his telling analysis of 'The Crisis of the Modern World', swiftly overtaken by events, Guénon based this his final and most profound critique squarely on changeless metaphysical principles. But to unite social criticism with metaphysics is to beget eschatology, and so, where as 'Crisis' Guénon foresaw the end of Western civilization, in 'Reign' he presents us with the end of a vaster world-age, or 'Manvantara', that began before the dawn of history as we know it.

Guénon bases his critique on 'abstract' principles, but his examples are satisfyingly concrete. His chapter The Degeneration of Coinage could easily be updated to include the transformation of money into a web of electronically-stored information, while in its treatment of the occult dangers of metallurgy The Significance of Metallurgy points directly to our own well-founded fear of such man-made elements as plutonium. And his Cracks in the Great Wall gives solid metaphysical grounding to our twentieth-century demonology, including the UFO phenomenon. 'The Reign of Quantity' presents a vision of the End Times that in no way contradicts traditional eschatologies, but is one key to their deeper meaning.

Reign of Quantity PDF:
https://monoskop.org/images/4/48/Gu%C3%A9non_Ren%C3%A9_The_Reign_of_Quantity_and_the_Signs_of_The_Times_2001.pdf

Here's a qrd on Crisis:
>>/lit/thread/S20947799

Here is an introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WuX5kNu45Y

[Anonymous No.21211563]

>inb4 discord server invite
Don’t join it
Bunch of snitches

[Anonymous No.21211646]

>>21211539
people like you ruined this board.
you shit everything that's not your topic
and because your holy book is writ and everyone believes themselves to clearly understand what it means
you never discuss it

[Anonymous No.21211658]

>>21211646
Let’s discuss it then

What is /lit/ thoughts on the solidification of the world?
What about the transformation from sphere -> cube?

[Anonymous No.21211675]

>>21211658
Solidification of the world
That's good otherwise we'd float in a giant flying mass of soil and dung

>Transformation from sphere to cube
Dunno, but you can apply a translation in the opposite direction

Now, pros of your shitty book?

[Anonymous No.21211687]

>>21211658
Can you tell me what happened before the sphere? What was its shape?

[Anonymous No.21211697]

Some observations
I know Guenon didn’t have this is mind but picrel of satellites around the earth is a great example of the solidification of the world.

On the topic of sphere -> cube…
Guenon says that the sphere is the ‘primordial form’ because it’s the least specified of all.
The quantification of the world will likely lead to an AI super computer and it is curious that servers at data centers take the form of cubes.

[Anonymous No.21211709]

>>21211697
Also related how computer chips are cubes

[Anonymous No.21211713]

>>21211675
>Now, pros of your based book?
How else are you going to prepare for the coming of the Antichrist, cocksucka…?

[Anonymous No.21211721]

>>21211658
Reign of Quantity is pure schizo
Theres a part where he talks about how censuses are evil, because of the "traditional wisdom" of peasant herdsmen in india, who know that counting the number of livestock you have will lead to more deaths.
Westerners who do yoga are apparently contributing to the inversion and solidification of the world, as an example of people carrying on a practice which has been robbed of spiritual meaning.
his criticism of kant is just retarded and totally misunderstands the kantian antinomies. (Im not one of these autistic kant guys but its clear that guenon did not understand him at all.

[Anonymous No.21211744]

>>21211675
Sucking cocks, 'cause that's the way to please your imaginary friend, right?

[Anonymous No.21211750]

>>21211713
Meant to reply to him, whatev

[Anonymous No.21211753]

>>21211687
>>21211697
The sphere is the primordial form
However, it was never a perfect sphere

>it is as well to note in addition to this first state, so far as our world is concerned, belongs properly to the domain of subtle manifestation, inasmuch as the latter necessarily precedes gross manifestation and is its immediate principle. This is why the form of the perfect sphere, or that of the circle corresponding to it in plane geometry (as a section of the sphere by a given directional plane) is in fact never realized in the corporeal world.

>On the other hand, the cube is opposed to the sphere as being the most ‘arrested’ form of all, if it can be so expressed; this means that it corresponds to a maximum of ‘specification’. The cube is also the form that is related to the earth as one of the elements, inasmuch as the earth is the ‘terminating and final element’ of manifestation in the corporeal state; and consequently it corresponds also to the end of the cycle of manifestation, or to what has been called the ‘stopping-point’ of the cyclical movement.

[Anonymous No.21211770]

>>21211750
>>21211744
Fuck off back to discord tranny Marxist kun

[Anonymous No.21211783]

>>21211658
You can't discuss anything with Traditionalists because they don't know basic philosophical terms and don't admit when they're wrong.

[Anonymous No.21211799]

>>21211783
Sounds like cope
Refute something from Reign of Quantity or Guenon in general then if you’re so smart

[Anonymous No.21211806]

>>21211721
>his criticism of kant is just retarded and totally misunderstands the kantian antinomies.
Explain how he misunderstands Kant and where Trad/lit/ can improve upon

[Anonymous No.21211831]

>>21211721
> Westerners who do yoga are apparently contributing to the inversion and solidification of the world, as an example of people carrying on a practice which has been robbed of spiritual meaning.

Interesting, Jung says more or less the same thing

[Anonymous No.21211839]

>>21211831
>Jung
and Psychoanalysis were thoroughly refuted in RoQ

[Anonymous No.21211888]

>>21211806
>Explain how he misunderstands Kant
He thinks that kant is trying to "prove" the antinomies, and positions his argument that the antinomies are predicated on a wrong question as a refutation of kant. But Kant actually agrees with this conclusion. The whole point of Kants argument on the antinomies is that the antinomies only arise when you ask conceptually incoherent questions.

im not gonna dig up passages rn to make a detailed argument bc im feeling kinda lazy, watching dumb sitcoms and whatnot, but if you look in the relevant sections of Critique of Pure Reason and Reign of QUantity you cant miss this.

Although I should mention ive never read guenon in french. It might just be that the translator is retarded when it comes to philosophy and badly mistranslated that part.

[Anonymous No.21211902]

>>21211839
>thoroughly refuted in RoQ
Guenon doesnt refute shit, he just hurls a bunch of invenctive then asserts his opinion.
His books can be interesting from an imaginative or spiritual perspective and are often pretty fun to read just because of how iconoclastic they are, but whenever guenon starts talking about other writers you need to be a little bit sceptical of his opinion

[Anonymous No.21211905]

>>21211888
Okay I am planning to read Kant later this month and will examine this matter myself
What’s the relevant sections in Critique of Pure Reason

[Anonymous No.21211909]

>>21211539
He is too abstract for me. I can respect some level of abstraction but guenon takes it to another level , it's very hard to form a solid philosophy from his ideas.

[Anonymous No.21211943]

>>21211905
the chapter guenon is responding to is called The Antinomy of Pure Reason, especially the subsection The Antithetic of Pure Reason. he discusses four questions, -- whether the universe has a beginning in time, whether matter is infinitely divisible, whether the soul is immortal, whether events are causally linked in a temporal sequence. and he concludes that they are all based on philosophically incorrect questions which assume that categories of human understanding are essential aspects of reality.
now can i get back to watching Plebs?

[Anonymous No.21212002]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOZo5LfIbs
>Ivan Aguéli is best known in Sweden as an artist and a convert to Islam. He was also a key figure in the development of an international esoteric movement, however: Traditionalism, which today has followers from Moscow to Brazil, some in academia, some in the arts, and some in politics—including President Trump’s former advisor, Steve Bannon. In this lecture, Mark Sedgwick will describe the Traditionalist movement, consider Aguéli’s contact with its key philosopher, René Guénon, in Paris in 1910, and explain Aguéli’s contribution: his personal impact on Guénon, his writings in the French journal La Gnose, and his disputed role in initiating Guénon into the living Tradition.

[Anonymous No.21212007]

>>21211943
>watching TalmudVision
Fucking hell, normie
No wonder you can’t Guenon

[Anonymous No.21212061]

>>21212007
idk i think levity is a good thing. silly frivolous tv shows have their place in the good life. i agree its mostly goyslop but its good to laugh at dumb jokes every now and again

Well-produced clever 1 hr dramas like madmen and game of thrones are pretty cancerous though, and i definitely do watch tv too much. i watched every episode of bot of those, entertaining but obviously totally anodyne

[Strange Love No.21213068]

>>21211799

[Anonymous No.21213287]

>>21213068
STRANGE HIGHS AND STRANGE LOWS

[Anonymous No.21213949]

>>21211539
>changeless metaphysical principles
Lmao

[Anonymous No.21214176]

>>21211721
>autistic kant guys
?

[Anonymous No.21214197]

>>21211888
>He thinks that kant is trying to "prove" the antinomies, and positions his argument that the antinomies are predicated on a wrong question as a refutation of kant
Wow. Guenon is a midwit if this is true. No wonder he appeals to midwits, if true.

[Anonymous No.21214204]

>>21214197
All French philosophers are midwits. yes all. yes even that one you are about to mention.

[Anonymous No.21214255]

>>21212061
Sopranos is the only good show

[Anonymous No.21214274]

>>21211839
You should try reading sometime. Since you’re on lit and all.

[Anonymous No.21214287]

>>21214274
You’re in a Reign of Quantity thread you fucking pseud. There’s literally a chapter called “the misdeeds of psychoanalysis” and Guenon rips it apart.
Perhaps you should try reading sometime
Idiot

[Anonymous No.21214405]

>>21211563
fpbp

[Anonymous No.21214454]

>>21211539

Heidegger did a much better job at analyzing the new materialism of the 20th century

[Anonymous No.21214500]

>>21214287
Yeah every single letter Jung ever wrote only dealt with psychoanalysis, how dumb are you? You psueds sitting around scrolling your phones like zombies posting “X thoroughly refuted Y” every chance you get in hopes anons think you know what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.21215732]

>>21211539
Heidegger did a much better job at analyzing the new materialism of the 20th century

[Strange Love No.21216844]

>>21213287

Heh, currently quite high again ... ^^

[Anonymous No.21216881]

>>21214197
Basically, Guenon is who midwits run to after they get filtered by Kant to save whatever feelings of dignity their bruised fragile egos have left.

[Anonymous No.21217381]

>>21211539
>see thread
>control-f "pbuh"
>0 results
>mfw

[ἀταραξία No.21217392]

>>21211687
An indivisible point.