Thomas Aquinas/Thomism.

[Anonymous No.21211024]

What are the best books by and on Thomas Aquinas? Also, what are the best books by later Thomists?
LARPagans and gaytheists need not reply.

[Anonymous No.21211030]

>>21211024
>LARPagans and gaytheists need not reply.
Tradcath larpers always say, without fail, whatever will most effectively push people away from Catholicism.

[Anonymous No.21211046]

>>21211030
Bro no one cares what you do, we all know you're retarded

[Anonymous No.21211064]

>>21211046
"Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. "

[Anonymous No.21211082]

>>21211064
Yeah 4chan Christians are not saints, great discovery

[Anonymous No.21211092]

>>21211082
It's their duty to become saints, however, and thus need to be corrected.

[Anonymous No.21211103]

>>21211092
Yeah corrected by a shitposting gaytheist

[Anonymous No.21211108]

>>21211103
I hope one day you join an church of some variety and are able to moderate your behavior.

[Anonymous No.21211144]

>>21211108
Why are you saying this on this forum? Is it from a genuine wish to help, or is it to satisfy your need to be right? Be careful, pride is the great sin, it creeps in through the backdoor and replaces charity with a parasite. I typed this because I suffer from this addiction myself and it has at many times disrupted my peace

[Anonymous No.21211162]

>>21211144
As far as I can tell many seem to be under the misconception that we get a free pass to behave however we want as long as it's done here. I think in your post here and this one >>21211082 (I don't know if you're the same poster) there were two attempts to insulate this mindset from any criticism.

[Anonymous No.21211175]

>>21211162
>dodges the question
Uh oh

[Anonymous No.21211176]

>>21211030
>>21211064
>>21211092
>>21211108
>>21211162
I merely made a suggestion, spicy phrases are hardly the height of sin. You need to stop being so ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.21211183]

>>21211176
Christians are supposed to be perfect or gaytheist will seethe at every word

[Anonymous No.21211193]

>>21211175
My answer to your question is that I would like to help them.
>>21211176
>>21211183
The witness that you present to others is important. We are to be above reproach from those who would slander us.

[Anonymous No.21211196]

>>21211193
You are reproachable for your affected LARPing pretentious tone that no one falls for

[Anonymous No.21211197]

>>21211193
Noted. Now, any suggestions on the original question in the OP?

[Anonymous No.21211201]

>>21211162
I was the one with the monk pic, that was my only message. I was accusing you of criticising not out of a charitable desire to direct, but an ugly and sanctimonious habit. I wasn't attempting to insulate anything. The other poster pointed out that you dodged that.

[Anonymous No.21211202]

>>21211196
It's always pointless it seems.

[Anonymous No.21211205]

>>21211202
You simply don't understand Christianity because you're more interested in concern trolling

[Anonymous No.21211208]

>>21211193
This idea of the bleached asshole Catholic is unapproachable and inhuman. No one in the Catholic Church should claim themselves righteous but merely forgiven and repentant and to say Christians should be beyond repraoch is merely naïve. I am, and will always be, comfortably reproached. I am not higher or lower than gaytheists or LARPagans, but the tone matters - to affect a nun like calmness is not even imitative of Christ it is outright wrong. Jesus Christ calls people what they are without judgement, as we cannot judge gaytheists as bad people but merely as hypocrites and to say that judgement is wrong is to ignore that judgement is a narrower category than well intentioned chiding as to criticize chiding is to criticize Christ. So yes, gaytheists should know that their beliefs will burn and being aggressive in the domain of 4chan does not invite scandal.

[Anonymous No.21211210]

>>21211024
G.K. Chesterton's Aquinas is supposedly good
Fr. Chad Ripperger's Introduction to Mental Health and Dominion are profoundly Thomstic

[Anonymous No.21211211]

>>21211208
You don't even realize what you're actually saying, do you? I'll stop bothering you though.

[Anonymous No.21211222]

>>21211208
based

[Anonymous No.21211229]

>>21211211
>cuck reply
You got BTFO bro

[Anonymous No.21211237]

[Anonymous No.21211244]

>>21211237
How did that work out for your church? Oh wait, we all know: modernists destroyed you.

[Anonymous No.21211282]

>>21211244
If only he had called the modernists faggots, then we might never have had Vatican II.

[Anonymous No.21211466]

>>21211030
>you NEED to cater to me

[Anonymous No.21211472]

>>21211466
"For the sake of food, do not destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to become a stumbling block by eating; it is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble."

[Anonymous No.21211516]

>>21211472
>calls christians "tradcath larpers"
>then immediately adopts a holier than thou attitude upon being called out on his bs
Standard tranny behavior

[Anonymous No.21211520]

>>21211472
>to stumble
Means to be immoral.

[Anonymous No.21211534]

>>21211024
Can someone answer the question? There is 1 (ONE) post recommending a book(s). In a thread with 30 posts. /lit/ is dying.

[Anonymous No.21211535]

>>21211534
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.21211541]

>>21211516
He keeps doing it!

[Anonymous No.21211548]

>He keeps doing it!

[Anonymous No.21211579]

>>21211024
We're sorry about your thread sir.

[Anonymous No.21211586]

>>21211579
I'm not. Thomism is heretical and needs to die. It's crypto-secularism proto-modernism pretending to be anti-modernism. It's a circus just like the Catholic Church and its entire deplorable history.

[Anonymous No.21211598]

>>21211586
This. Catholicism is Talmudic legalism, spiritual death.

[Anonymous No.21211626]

>Catholic art

[Anonymous No.21211769]

>>21211024
>>21211534
I'll help you out anon. I'm probably more familiar with the Thomist literature than anyone who isn't a specialist (I'm just an autist). I'll admit up front that I think the Neoscholastics (both the originals like Garrigou-Lagrange and the revival like Ed Feser/Steven Long/etc.) have a lot of problems despite having some useful material. The best introduction to the Classical tradition in general is Eric Perl's book Thinking Being, which covers Parmenides, Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus, and Aquinas. It's a short book but absolutely essential. I also still like Gilson, although some of his work is a bit dated, and would recommend his books "Thomism" and "Being and Some Philosophers". Norris Clarke also had some quality books, his essay collections are great and his book "The One and the Many" is in my opinion a much better introduction to metaphysics and Aquinas than Ed Feser's, which I see mentioned a lot in these circles. My favorite contemporary Thomist is Rudi te Velde. He has three books, all of which I would highly recommend once you've read the other ones I mentioned. Come back after you've read a bit and you can get more specialized recommendations.

[Anonymous No.21211912]

>>21211024
>thomism
Aquinas wasn’t the first guy named Thomas, nor the last, it should be Aquinasism

[Anonymous No.21211934]

>>21211626
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroque

[Anonymous No.21211936]

>>21211586
>Buzzword Buzzword Buzzword

[Anonymous No.21211937]

>>21211934
Woah that isn't very Inclusive, you know? Try to get with the times okay?

[Anonymous No.21211951]

>>21211937
This kind of thing is the most sophomoric shit ever. Almost every historical Catholic of note affirmed that the Church was constantly besieged. Even Fulton Sheen said that the antichrist would arise within the Church visible.
I'd recommend spending less time on this tepid trolling and find a nice book to read.

[Anonymous No.21211959]

>>21211951
All of these things are happening because Rome dogmatized heresy at Vatican I.

[Anonymous No.21211992]

>>21211912
yeah but that sounds weird

>>21211769
does anyone want to comment on this to help OP or just continue retarded sperg fights?

[Anonymous No.21212029]

>>21211951
This is a defense based on unfalsifiablity. No matter how bad things become, no matter what happens, you can just claim it's an assault of the devil that will be fixed at some indeterminate point in the future. In effect you have to reject all of the marks of what should objectively constitute the true church, because to you it doesn't matter whether those things currently apply or not. It's a propositional commitment that has no connection to the state of the church in reality.

[Anonymous No.21212077]

>>21212029
>unfalsifiablity
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.21212084]

>>21212077
Well you shouldn't. If you are going to claim that there are certain things that God guarantees to the church, then it matters if those things are not there. If it doesn't matter whether they're there or not, then it means there is no way to distinguish the true church from false ones.

[Anonymous No.21212269]

>>21211024
I read the Oxford World Classics collection of hsi writings, it was good. Brian Davies 'The Thought of Thomas Aquinas' is a good academic intro. I've not read it but apparently Chesterton's Aquinas is good. I'd really recommend Josef Pieper's 'The Four Cardinal Virtues'.

The Summa Theologiae is free online. The Summa Contra Gentiles by Notre Dame Press is good, book 1 is worth reading at least.

[Anonymous No.21213598]

>>21211936
>filtered

[Anonymous No.21214190]

christopher shields & robert pasnau are respectable philosophers

[Anonymous No.21214217]

>>21214190
robert pasnau should be beaten for his treatment of aquinas

[Anonymous No.21215174]

>>21211210
>>21211769
>>21212269
>>21214190
Thank you, God bless.

[Anonymous No.21215591]

>>21211030
They're not real Christians nor do they read or listen to Jesus' teachings.

[Anonymous No.21215689]

>>21211024
Recent'y been thinking of this fellow's influence on Heidegger through a mediation of Aristotle's De anima. Is his commentary worth it? I read bit of the Summa and was pretty bored, desu. I don't really respect the man too much as a philosopher, yet thinking over this Heidegger dimension and the crucialness of this line of thought is making me demur.

Part of why I don't respect him is that I believe this main innovation of his—the soul, logos, being the universal informing principle of individuals—was solely a theological necessity.

[Anonymous No.21215715]

>>21215591
Roman Catholic Church >>>>> Heresies

[Anonymous No.21215803]

>>21215715
Whatever you say.