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not a good book, but definitely my favorite

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Mgs2

>> No.21181389

>>21180124
OP's picrel

>> No.21181421

>>21180124
Honestly it's either Tess of the d'Urbervilles or Klara and the Sun. One is a painting, the other is a simple yet overwhelmingly fantastic book. Picrel is up there too.

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>> No.21181595

>>21181421
>Klara and the Sun
Go back

>> No.21181755

>>21181595
Where?

>> No.21181794

>>21181481
>State and Revolution
He massacres the revolutionary working class of Petrograd in their own Commune.

>> No.21181832

>>21180124
American Psycho

>> No.21181854

>>21180124
>boner
>>21180130
>frederick foreskin
>>21180240
>jg ballsack
>>21180255
>moby dick
>>21180261
>the crossdressing
>>21181481
>scat and urination

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>> No.21182407

No Dostoevsky?

>> No.21182415

>>21181481
Based pick anon rightiods in full force seetheing

>> No.21182473

>>21180124
American Psycho

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>>21182514
based
marilynne is wonderful

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>>21180124
It may be a bit of a simple book, but I really enjoy it. A guy living on his own doing his best to survive.

>> No.21182623

1984. it's good but fuck that book. when you find something that perfectly articulates on your very personal schizo tendencies, it's a perfect storm of paranoia. every page reaffirms your fears. big brother is the antichrist. the state is the antichrist. fuck i should had stuck with tolkien.

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Unironically one of the most satisfying books I've ever read. Just the right balance of every element. It is perfectly and exquisetely pruned- a wonderful, subtle, exploration of the alien.

>> No.21182643

>>21182627
unironically a good review. 1984 is not a book about the future. it's about a different kind of hell. i've read it being described as "a fetishistic depiction of evil".

>> No.21182651

>>21182643
I think that depends on the country to be honest. If you’re firm a first world country, perhaps it’s difficult to imagine 1984.

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Pulverizing

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>>21182643
>1984 is not a book about the future
Unless your live in Russia or China. Then this thought is nor so far fetched as one might think.

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>>21180124
The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy

>The verbs auxiliary we are concerned in here, continued my father, are, am; was; have; had; do; did; make; made; suffer; shall; should; will; would; can; could; owe; ought; used; or is wont. -- And these varied with tenses, present, past, future, and conjugated with the verb see, -- or with these questions added to them, -- Is it ? Was it ? Will it be ? Would it be ? May it be ? Might it be ? And these again put negatively, Is it not ? Was it not ? Ought it not ? -- Or affirmatively, -- It is ; It was ; It ought to be. Or chronologically, -- Has it been always ? Lately ? How long ago ? -- Or hypothetically, -- If it was ; If it was not ? What would follow ? ---- If the French should beat the English ? If the Sun go out of the Zodiac ?
>Now, by the right use and application of these, continued my father, in which a child's memory should be exercised, there is no one idea can enter his brain how barren soever, but a magazine of conceptions and conclusions may be drawn forth from it. ---- Didst thou ever see a white bear ? cried my father, turning his head round toTrim, who stood at the back of his chair : -- No, an' please your honour, replied the corporal. ---- But thou could'st discourse about one,Trim, said my father, in case of need ? ---- How is it possible, brother, quoth my uncleToby, if the corporal never saw one ? ---- 'Tis the fact I want ; replied my father, -- and the possibility of it, is as follows.
>AWHITE BEAR! Very well. Have I ever seen one ? Might I ever have seen one ?

>> No.21182755

>>21180240
rare fellow crash enjoyer

>> No.21182766

>>21180124
Finnegans Wake. I'll be rereading it til the day I die.

>> No.21182767

>>21182755
Better than High Rise, not as good as Empire of the Sun. Crash doesn't have diseased children being sold for meat after nobody will take them for sex.

>> No.21182779

>>21182724
BEST PICK

>>21182766
alright, i'm starting it soon & need advice from a true enjoyer -- should i really just read it all the way through, no aid for the first time? any tips?

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>>21180124
Unironically Stoner

>> No.21182841

>>21182767
Sounds like a Spielberg movie

>> No.21182855

>>21182767
>Crash doesn't have diseased children being sold for meat after nobody will take them for sex.
Could be taken as either a positive aspect of the book or a negative one to be honest.
I like Crash mostly because of my obsession with motorized vehicles. I also always saw motorcycles and everything about them as very sexual and envied a death in a crash on mine.
Sucks it's so focused on cars but there's not a lot of media about the erotic aspect of motor vehicle crashes I guess.
I'll agree that I did enjoy it more than High Rise but I haven't read EotS yet, I like Ballard so I'll check it out. What brought you to like it so much?

>> No.21182866

>>21182841
If only Croenberg had directed Empire of the Sun.

>> No.21182878

>>21182779
Read it slowly. A few pages at a time. Use Joseph Campbell's "Skeleton Key to Finnegans Wake." There's also a site that unpacks the multivalency of nearly every word in the novel . . . I used that at first, and it admittedly helped me appreciate the scope of Joyce's punscape, but it gave me a right headache before long. Bon voyage

>> No.21182879

>>21182855
>but I haven't read EotS yet, I like Ballard so I'll check it out. What brought you to like it so much?
I'm a historian.
EotS attacks British Imperialism via the physical manifestation of it in a class of elites directly ruling. Despite moments of dangerous chaos typified by disease, the war is mostly quiet and safe for the MC, apart from a bit of pædophilia. Deals well with the bomb thematically. Child eating and sex. Chinese civil war as a vast dark curtain. Contrasts the Chinese Civil War and the US Pacific Campaign as determinant, with only the weakest softest British East Asian campaign mentioned at the symbolic level: the utter uselessness of British Asia.

Also its anti-biographical while playing in the space that Ballard was there as a child in the camps.

Also Batman gets sold for meat. Gotta love that.

>> No.21182881

>>21182878
what's the site? thanks for the campbell endorsement; i wasn't sure on it.

>> No.21182888

>>21182881
>what's the site?

http://finwake.com/1024chapter1/1024finn1.htm

>> No.21182891

>>21182888
too many thanks, my friend. anything else going in? have you read anything that's helped on rereads? should i read the campbell before, or chapter by chapter?

>> No.21182902

From long to short:
Les mis by hugo
The death of ivan il'ic by tolstoy
The overcoat by gogol
The dialogue between an almanac seller and a passer-by by leopardi

>> No.21182911

>>21182891
I read the Campbell alongside the Wake, usually staying a bit ahead of the narrative (lol) but not too far ahead. You'll probably become tempted at some point to read Giambattista Vico, whose "New Science" was in many ways the Odyssey to the Wake's Ulyssean element; but honestly that is a rabbit hole no "casual" reader should entertain. There is very, very little written about the Wake that isn't speculative blathering

>> No.21182918

>>21182911
ah, ok. thanks so much again anon, i'm just going to follow you on this one as there're far too many retards around giving advice every which-away

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>>21182855
after reading that book I spent time looking at videos of car crashes trying to figure out what the F turns them on about it. The idea of lust becoming literally self destructive is so poetic I can't deal.

the writing sucked real talk, but it's the most unique story I've ever read.

>> No.21182945

>>21182918
No problem dude! The most important thing of all is that you have fun with the book. Make your own rules.

Also, here's a much better link than the one I dropped earlier: https://www.finwake.com/desktop.htm

>> No.21182946

>>21182779
Yeah I second that anon saying to take your time with it (especially once you get to Book II). In my opinion you shouldn't worry about trying to catch every single reference and meaning but instead focus on the overall flow and theme of a specific passage. There are several passages that become a lot clearer if you focus on the flow and rhythm of the words rather than the individual meaning if that makes sense, listen to some recordings of people reading FW out loud to see what I mean. You will notice that Finnegans Wake will vary with comprehensibility and some chapters will feel easier than others. "Wipe your glosses with what you know" as the book will tell you. When I read it for the first time I didn't really use any references but I did google phrases or topics in the book that I found interesting and it led me down some cool rabbit holes. It's mindblowing how much stuff Joyce put in Finnegans Wake.

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>>21180124
Yours is my second favorite, anon.

>> No.21183036

>>21182947
when I finished reading this I immediately read it again. Read it twice in an day.

>> No.21183124

>>21182945
i found that link right away. thanks for the last time, anon, and happy (re)reading!

>> No.21183714

>>21180124
>What is your favorite book?
Finnegans Wake

>> No.21184370

>>21182724
extremely based excerpt poster

>> No.21184401

>>21180240
I love Ballard.

Have read The Unlimited Dream Company? If not, check it out.

>> No.21184413

>>21182635
Nice capsule review. Rama is maybe Clarke's masterpiece. I like Imperial Earth a lot, too, but it'd got a different feel.

>> No.21184460

I liek everything

>> No.21184512

>>21184460
based liker

>> No.21184589

>>21182724
What am I supposed to get from this passage

>> No.21184898

>>21180240
can you shill this to me? I've seen the film a couple times, i could be retard, but is it more than just "look at this weird fetish"?

for what it's worth I enjoyed the cronenberg bits, but not too impressed otherwise.

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>>21184898
idk you pretty much got the gist.

it's just graphic descriptions of sex acts and wounds back to back without end. it turned me on one minute and made my bones ache the next. it was a visceral experience reading the book.
never seen the film, seemed like it tried to be cool, there's more of a loser-ish element to the characters in the book

>> No.21186094

Where are my Biblebros?

>> No.21186214

>>21180124
Why was Edith such a fucking cunt

>> No.21186253

>>21186094
In a Bible circlejerk thread hopefully

>> No.21186478

>>21180240
>not a good book, but definitely my favorite
>bad books are my favourite
So you're saying you have terrible taste and judgement. Crash is great book

>> No.21186492

>>21180240
I've wanted to read this book because of Siouxsie who wrote this song inspired by it: https://youtu.be/8LX7cgA0ZYw

>> No.21186504

>>21181595
>filtered by ishiguro
ngmi

>> No.21187024

>>21184589
It seems to be the passage that Cochran had based his Chewbacca defense on.

>> No.21187042

>>21181481
communism is gay no matter how you cut it

>> No.21187356

>>21186214
A woman should write a version of the story with Edith as the protagonist. Sort of like the book Wicked.

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Followed by Blood Meridian

>> No.21188028

>>21182724
Why is there a space before the question mark, it reads terribly

>> No.21189556

>>21187387
Good pick

>> No.21190444

>>21181481
Faggot

>> No.21191297

>>21182407
lit is dead

>> No.21191363

>>21183023
same. good taste, fren. what's your third on your list?

>> No.21192721

>>21191297
I wonder what happened

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>>21182810
>All Quiet on the Western Front

and pic related.

(WARNING) If you have problems or feel like you're on "the edge" don't read pic related, and I'd stay away from All Quiet on the Western Front if you're depressed or have a blackpilled view of life.

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I actually haven't read much fiction, to be honest. But I can't bring myself to pick a theology or political tome as my "favorite", cause I don't think I really engage with those types of works in that way.

>> No.21192874

>>21181481

>> No.21193363

>>21181854
Lol

>> No.21193384

>>21180124
That’s like being asked who the hottest girl is. There are way too many and it depends on my mood. I have ~50 that rotate around and hold a special place in my heart

>> No.21193398

>>21192765
Can you expand on this one being your favorite without spoilers ? Seems people know about it only because it was shilled by King.

>> No.21193550

>>21193398
>people know about it only because it was shilled by King

Yeah that's how I found out about it, and I'm not really a big fan of Stephen King, but I figured if King liked it then it couldn't be horrible, and at the time I had just gone through a string of books that sucked ass and I didn't want to read another disappointment, so I thought I'd play it safe with a book recommended by King that wasn't actually written by him....which I don't know, just made sense at the time....and I'm sure glad I did. To this day I can't compare that book to any other thing I've ever read, and I do believe that it's the only book that I loved reading that I'd never read again. It's a heavy read. I'd suggest maybe having a "happy book" on the side to read at the same time so you can take breaks, because this book gets dark. And I don't really think I can say much about it without spoiling it. In fact, stay away from online reviews because they might ruin the ending, which would in turn ruin the book.

It's not a long book either, and you'll know straight away if it's something you'll enjoy. Just a heads up though, I wasn't able to find it ANYWHERE online and got lucky that my local library had a copy. Maybe you'll have better luck finding it. All I'm going to tell you is that I can guarantee you won't regret reading it, and if you do, it'll be for all the right reasons.

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One of the most amazing books ever. I'll translate it and post it on /lit/ soon. The content is just like the cover.

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>>21180124
Tfw no Sonya gf

>> No.21193672

>>21191363
This is where it gets tricky for me. I’d say either Catcher in the Rye (it was really important to me when I was younger and drew me deeper into literature when I wasn’t reading quite as much) or Dubliners (got me into Joyce, which changed the trajectory of my life+Every story is total kino)

>> No.21193687

>>21180124
Stoner is Mediocre: The Book. If you are over 25 and you like this book, please kys.

>> No.21193800

>>21193562
Why hasn't any of his stuff been translated to English still

>> No.21193806

I can't pick a favourite
Nor song nor film, there's just too many
idk how you people do it, how can you just pick one
Unless it's not actually your favourite and just something you like?

>> No.21193815

>>21193800
He's a complete pariah in France. No one reads him nor wants to be interested in him because he is way too intense for modern society and reminds french people of fascist writers from WW2 so they act like he doesn't exist and will start to celebrate him when he's dead.

>> No.21193820

>>21193815
I'm aware, but still, he seems high profile enough and has been around for long enough for someone to have translated something of his despite that

>> No.21193836

>>21193820
The only translation of him that I know of is in japanese because he wrote an intro text for a Douglas Sirk movie and the japs kept it lol. No one else cares besides people of the young generation like me for whom he's been extremely influential and important.

>> No.21193844

>>21193836
damn
guess I'll just have to learn French...

>> No.21193860

>>21193844
I'll definitely translate excepts and post them soon.

>> No.21193867

>>21193860
based, godspeed

>> No.21193881

>>21182643
Did you ever think about the reason why the Newspeak appendix at the back of the book treats the language like a distant cultural object from a time long past? Think about it and you'll realize the true nature of the novel.

>> No.21193888

>>21193398
There's the assumption that it's some sort of realist war novel, which it is, but it mixes realistic sarcastic observations of war with poesy in the German vein. Think Rilke mixed into a WW1 scene.

>> No.21194405

>>21193562
thank you for the recommendation.Im so glad i learned french and can now read untranslated literature

>> No.21194655

>>21180124
1.) Moby Dick
2.) Suttree
3.) Stoner

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>>21187387
Literally finished this for the first time, last night. I'm by no means well read, but /lit/ has inspired me to try at the ripe old age of 45. I'm working on Shakespeare now, maybe some other things like Milton's Paradise Lost, so I can better understand Melville's and the novel's context, as well as Western Literature in general.

Haven't read or listened to any analysis on Moby Dick yet, as I like to give a book some time to "settle". Such a beautiful, frustrating, and unforgettable experience. If I could sum it up in one sentence: Moby Dick is simultaneously the best and worst argument for an editor.

>> No.21195520

>>21180124
The Long Walk by Stephen King

>> No.21196248

>>21182407
>>21180124
The Brothers Karamazov

>> No.21196441

>>21182724
sterne was so ahead of his time. criminally underrated masterpiece. it does read a bit funny like many "postmodern" novels

>> No.21197286

Finally a good /lit/ thread for once

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cunt of monte cristo

>> No.21197435

>>21180124
Outer Dark by McCarthy; also The Unnamable by Beckett.

My favorite Beckett is 'Ill seen, Ill said' but it isn't really a book or novella.

>> No.21197443

Has anyone here read the harry potter books? OMG SO GOOD

>> No.21197449

>>21197411
i was looking for this. whats your favourite chapter? mine is 83.

>> No.21197550

>>21197411
Ill read it soon. There's something really attractive about those thick ass smoothly written Alexandre Dumas novels. You feel like you could easily read 600 pages of pure sophisticated story telling without being filtered by stylistic faggotery or useless intellectualism.

>> No.21197587

>>21180124
Don Quixote

>> No.21198086

>>21180124
Name of the Rose

>> No.21198102

>>21198086
Tell me.

>> No.21199228

>>21186094
This

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>>21197587
Excellent Taste Anon, is it even possible in the english language to provide such combinations as poignant picture of contemporary life and cultural development with so much lightheartedness and mirth?

>> No.21199693

>>21180124
Catch-22.

>> No.21199696

>>21198086
By Umberto Eco? It's been on my radar for a long time, but I've never picked it up. Do you think it's a worthwhile read?

>> No.21199707

>>21199245
Why? Genuinely asking. I didn’t dislike it but I feel like I just didn’t get it. I might’ve gotten filtered idk. What am I missing? What’s the appeal?

>> No.21199984

>>21199687
Didn't read it in English desu.
Didn't read in Spanish either.

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>>21180124
Tied between pic related and Mason & Dixon.

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>>21180124

>> No.21200848

>>21195301
>If I could sum it up in one sentence: Moby Dick is simultaneously the best and worst argument for an editor.

Did you dislike the Cetology chapters Anon? I'd strongly recommend to go back now that you've finished and check them out individually, don't worry about where the plot is heading or what is going to happen, take it just like casually reading a book about whales. I think it has some of the most memorable passages of the entire book, and the prose in those sections are as memorable as any other part of it. Some of my favorites;

>Of a retiring nature, he eludes both hunters and philosophers. Though no coward, he has never yet shown any part of him but his back, which rises in a long sharp ridge. Let him go. I know little more of him, nor does anybody else.

>Another retiring gentleman, with a brimstone belly, doubtless got by scraping along the Tartarian tiles in some of his profounder divings. He is seldom seen; at least I have never seen him except in the remoter southern seas, and then always at too great a distance to study his countenance. He is never chased; he would run away with rope-walks of line. Prodigies are told of him. Adieu, Sulphur Bottom! I can say nothing more that is true of ye, nor can the oldest Nantucketer.

>The Killer is never hunted. I never heard what sort of oil he has. Exception might be taken to the name bestowed upon this whale, on the ground of its indistinctness. For we are all killers, on land and on sea; Bonapartes and Sharks included.

>This gentleman is famous for his tail which he uses for a ferule in thrashing his foes. He mounts the Folio whale’s back, and as he swims, he works his passage by flogging him; as some schoolmasters get along in the world by a similar process. Still less is known of the Thrasher than of the Killer. Both are outlaws, even in the lawless seas.

(Folio whales are the best, Duodecimo niggers do not interact)

Also good luck on reading Anon I wish you well

>> No.21200985

>>21199696
>Do you think it's a worthwhile read?
He just said it's his favorite book. Can you even read?

>> No.21201108

Has to be one of these:
Young hearts crying / cold spring harbor (Richard Yates)
The member of the wedding (Carson McCullers
)
Libra (Don delillo)

>> No.21201635

>>21200985
>Can you even read?
no

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>>21180124
For me it's a tie between Stoner and East of Eden

>> No.21201760

>>21199707
For me, its because its part of mishimas ideology
The sailor ryuji being a representation of japan being more open to the world and fusako owning a shop that deals in western imports
I also think its about identity since noboru is still young and trying to figure out his world view, which leads to the events at the end because he felt betrayed by ryuji
Mishima is my favorite author so i might be biased

>> No.21201768

>>21180124
I struggled with the top ten list and had to make 3 posts and I still have some ammo left over. I love too many books

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This one, don't really know why. I think of it all the time

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>> No.21203111

>>21202941
Why's this your favorite? Always been curious about Marias but never get around to checking out one of his novels

>> No.21203878

House of Leaves anyone?

>> No.21203962

treasure island because i liek pirates

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>> No.21205588

>>21186214
post partum syndrome

>> No.21205615

>>21193800
Because he fucking sucks as a writer

>> No.21205716

It's gonna sound like basic bitch pleb shit but One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Also kinda liked Catcher in the Rye. I do need to read more books in general. I didn't like Stoner much at first, thought it was just ok but as it marinated I like it more.

>> No.21205734

>>21181854
best post itt

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House of Leaves

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Ada or Ardor

>> No.21206706

>>21206239
That's a good book

>> No.21206707

>>21182945
>dude!
Based reddit-spacing high-fiving fweets of fin poster

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1) The Metamorphosis
2) No Longer Human
3) Picrel. Not even joking I read this every 6 months it's the ultimate comfy novel.

>> No.21207194

>>21206707
You're gonna go crazy some day