/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.21062696]

Post-apocalyptic Inquisition Edition

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[Anonymous No.21062776]

First for Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.21062829]

Is there any good sci fi novel that explores technology in a non-romantic/non-utopian light? Where tech has a degenerative affect on humanity and causes more or an equal amount of problems relative to those it supposedly fixes?
The only fiction I can think of is the movie WALL-E

[Anonymous No.21062860]

read cradle

[Anonymous No.21062867]

Occasional reminder that this is one of the best litrpgs you'll ever find.

[Anonymous No.21062871]

>>21062829
1st and 2nd book of Hyperion. Pay attention to the Hegemony and how it has affected the worlds it rules over - how the interconnectivity of the galaxy has crushed cultures and local fauna.

[Anonymous No.21062878]

I need a book recommendation fellas.
Hard(ish) sci-fi, goes into autistic detail about organisations and funding and technical developments.
If you've read Invisble Sun by Stross you have a pretty good idea of what I want.
Ideally I'd like a deep dive into our present society forced into action by some OoCP to develop new technologies which change society.
Please and thanks.

[Anonymous No.21062908]

[Anonymous No.21062911]

[Anonymous No.21062938]

>>21062696
Are old D&D novels actually good?

[Anonymous No.21062965]

>>21062938
like in all cases where you have a fuckton of fiction it varies. cleric quintet specifically is solid.

[Anonymous No.21063225]

>>21062829
Basically any cyberpunk novel...?

If you're okay dipping into /a/ territory Kaiba and BLAME! are particularly good examples of worlds warped by technology and not for the better

[Anonymous No.21063259]

>>21062829
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep considers technology philosophically and it does have negative things to say about it, but I don’t think any view of technology is going to be entirely negative.

[Anonymous No.21063380]

For me, it’s Phil Resch — the best bounty hunter.

[Anonymous No.21063410]

>>21062938
I've only read Baker's City of Towers and it was bland and predictable. Although it did well in creating a sense of wonder in this strange magical city. So it helped me build out my dnd world, but holy shit the read was a slog.

I like Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser is a better series, and while it isn't directly dnd, it does have the same feel.

[Anonymous No.21063432]

Why is Neil Gaiman famous? I've never heard anybody recommend him, and the two fan-fictions of his I've read were bad. Yet he is quoted on the cover of every book like his endorsement means something.

[Anonymous No.21063444]

Where should I start in order to get into WH40K?

[Anonymous No.21063448]

>>21063432
He is famous bc his books appeal directly to the fedoras of reddit.

[Anonymous No.21063450]

>>21063444
Eisenhorn

[Anonymous No.21063455]

>>21063432
he's twitter famous and is really well connected in the industry, he knows everyone and has a lot of pull

[Anonymous No.21063470]

>>21063432
>kneel gayman
He got big from comic books and should have stayed there.

[Anonymous No.21063488]

Black Company > Malazan > The blade shit Itself

[Anonymous No.21063510]

>>21062938
Yes, they are pretty fun and have good banter
And most female characters have that 80s hairstyle that i like so much

[Anonymous No.21063522]

Well?
>>>/tv/174879507

[Anonymous No.21063595]

I didn't see anything in the mega so I'll ask. My gf and I take turns choosing monthly books to read and she suggested I choose a book by a woman. Any recs that aren't awful?

[Anonymous No.21063608]

>>21063595
The Curse of Chalion by Bujold.

[Anonymous No.21063623]

>>21063595
Black Sun Rising

[Anonymous No.21063669]

>>21063259
>but I don’t think any view of technology is going to be entirely negative.
Not asking for Ted K just something that's not as overtly optimistic or that thinks technology can fix every problem from cancer to fucking aging. Something that might paint a 'post-scarcity' in a very unattractive light

[Anonymous No.21063697]

>See apparently shitty reddit litrpg + isekai chart from last thread
>look at it any way because I haven't seen it before
>Book called Portal to Nova Roma
>Get excited because I'm a bit of a Romaboo
>Look it up
>Get sad because it is, indeed, not about reviving the Roman Empire

[Anonymous No.21063719]

Bakker spoiler regarding Lord K, do not read if you havent finished THE SLOG OF SLOGS

Kosoter isn't dead and neither is it the first time he has died.

He was the "man with the iron eyes" dressed as a beggar, the one who drenched himself in oil and and kept the Thing That Called Itself Sarcellus (the guy's skin eater doppelganger, dont remember the exact name) in his kamikaze embrace while Kellhus' other assassin fired the flaming arrow at them. During the brief exchange between him and Not-Sarcellus, he even admits to being Zaudunyani and despite looking like a beggar at first, Not-Sarcellus immediately recognizes something wrong with his "iron eyes". The thing says that despite looking battered as fuck, this was a man who was doing the battering to others or something along those lines.

When he leads the Skin Eater's expedition into Cil-Aujas, they reach depths so far below the surface that they end up on a literal lake of lava (while being hunted by Sranc and other monsters). Sarl starts crying and laments how fucked they are because they've walked into literal Hell (with the lava everywhere etc). Kosoter just says that this was definitely not hell and when Sarl asks how he knew, Kosoter answers "Because I would remember". Kosoter is also known by the name "Ironsoul" (see iron eyes above)
Sarl and Mimara talk about how Kosoter's soul bounces back from the afterlife and that the Captain simply doesn't go to hell, even after being killed by his men near Sauglish. Sarl might look like an insane maniac 99% of the time, but there is some low key prophetic quality to him that shines through between the lines. So, is Kosoter really ded?

Just a theory tho.

[Anonymous No.21064004]

>>21062867
What a low bar that is, though.

Sell it to me, why should I read it as someone who doesn't normally read litrpg

[Anonymous No.21064020]

>>21063595
Grunts! By Mary Gentle.

Go into it with no prior knowledge beyond "old lotr parody" and enjoy the Salvia trip.

[Anonymous No.21064053]

>probably

[Anonymous No.21064058]

>>21064004
Ever wonder what it'd be like to exploit your position as NPC in a video game? Better yet, what if you try to exploit your position as a time traveler to stay keep the best quests to yourself and farm the players like cattle?

On top of that you have solid action scenes that eventually turn into a space opera.

[Anonymous No.21064075]

>>21064058
I can tell you with absolute certainty I have never once in my life even remotely entertained even a speck of a thought in any way shape or form similar to what you just described.

[Anonymous No.21064086]

>>21062696
>beautifully painted atmospheric piece (even if it is digitally painted)
>nonstandard utility poles for literally no reason
Absolutely ruined

[Anonymous No.21064118]

>>21064086
It's AI generated.

[Anonymous No.21064164]

>>21062938
Some are, but they are targeted at a 75 IQ, so you just have to be prepared and accept that.I enjoyed the one in your picture.

[Anonymous No.21064248]

>>21062938
Only Dragonlance Chronicles (Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Dragons of Winter Night, Dragons of Spring Dawning) and Dragonlance Legends (The Time of the Twins, The War of the Twins, The Test of the Twins) by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman.

[Anonymous No.21064328]

>>21063432
Jewish subversive whose works mostly haven't aged well for obvious reasons. Stardust and Coraline are decent novellas.

[Anonymous No.21064384]

>>21063522
Arguing with retards is like playing chess with a pigeon.

[Anonymous No.21064595]

>>21064086
>nonstandard utility poles for literally no reason
I see you are one of those burgers that think that you get electricity from under the ground.

[Anonymous No.21064723]

>>21062878
The commonwealth series by Peter F. Hamilton, read 'em in order

[Anonymous No.21064732]

>>21063595
>My gf and I take turns choosing monthly books to read and she suggested I choose a book by a woman.
So your girlfriend is choosing the book you're supposed to choose.
Dude.

[Anonymous No.21064781]

>>21064732
damn I didn’t notice that the first time I read that post. anon is pussywhipped
>>21063595
anon you’re pussywhipped

[Anonymous No.21064830]

Cradle #12 won't be good, will it?

[Anonymous No.21064837]

>>21064732
I no longer have a girlfriend

[Anonymous No.21064977]

>>21063595
Thief by Megan Whalen Turner

[Anonymous No.21065023]

>>21064830
I'm disappointed we won't see Lindon and co replace the Abidan. That seemed like where everything was heading so it feels like the story will be left pretty unfished.
But even without that, there is still a ton of stuff to wrap up. I don't see how the author can do so in a satisfying way with only a single book.

[Anonymous No.21065029]

>>21064977
Is that the one where the mc gets an older gf?

[Anonymous No.21065084]

>>21065029
>Is that the one where the mc gets an older gf?
Is there a reading list for Fantasy books where the MC gets an older woman? I think I saw one, but for all genres.

[Anonymous No.21065186]

>>21065029
It's the one where the chatacters do nothing but walk down the road and whine for the middle 80% of the book. Don't bother.

[Anonymous No.21065667]

>>21064248
Dragonlance sucks
t. read it and hated it

[Anonymous No.21065669]

Chinese cultivation novel recs?

[Anonymous No.21065675]

>>21065669
Lord of the Mysteries is the only one worth reading.

[Anonymous No.21065676]

>>21062860
Yerrin isn't black stop it

[Anonymous No.21065689]

>>21065084
all the fantasy books I've ever read involving a younger guy and an older girl typically involve a guy between the ages of 16-20 and a woman between the ages of several thousands to ∞
I mean I like that, don't get me wrong, but there aren't really any relationships between, say, a 19 year old guy and a 35 year old woman, at least not that I've read
excluding erotic literature anyway

[Anonymous No.21065704]

>>21065675
Too bad I've already read that. I do agree that it's one of the highest quality works in the Chinese whateverthefuck genre

[Anonymous No.21065753]

>>21064248
Dragonlance rules
t. read it and loved it

[Anonymous No.21065754]

>>21065676
And chinks aren't so tall and muscular. Your point?

[Anonymous No.21065769]

>>21065754
A chink in a world of chinks can be tall and muscular. Like being the tallest dwarf.

[Anonymous No.21065872]

>>21065675
Why the fuck was this deleted jannie?

[Anonymous No.21065905]

This showed some potential in the middle, but took a turn for the worse. Disappointing.

[Anonymous No.21065953]

>>21063595
Piranesi is great

[Anonymous No.21065967]

>>21062938
No. I tried to read dragonlance and it was like baby's first YA novel tier. The drizzt books are like two chapters worth of interesting shit padded out to novel length by autistic uber bland descriptions of everything.

[Anonymous No.21066028]

>>21065905
The sequel is worst.
Don't read past book one, it does not get better.

[Anonymous No.21066060]

>>21066028
But you get what I mean with book 1, right? The casual child rape, semi murderhobo thing but without edgelordism (I mean fuck these amoeba people), the mc named MC, it was sort of a vibe. Then he met a girl and it all went to shit and he's back to Dudley Do-Right from chapter 1. Yeah, I went to book 2 and you're right -- it's just bland and lifeless.

[Anonymous No.21066088]

>>21064723
Thanks mang, I've already read it tho.
It was okay except I'd prefer somerthing quite a bit harder, and its autism was insufficient to satisfy my vast autistic hunger.

[Anonymous No.21066104]

>>21066088
>its autism was insufficient to satisfy my vast autistic hunger
For what reason do you want to rrad trash instead of good fiction (just asking in general, not saying commonwealth saga good)

[Anonymous No.21066203]

Is the Foundation series worth reading?

[Anonymous No.21066282]

>>21066104
I'm fascinated by the idea of how governments choose objectives, then structure their organisation to meet those challenges. The development of new technological capabilites is especially interesting.
Of course we have real-life examples of the Manhatten Project or Oxcart etc, but I enjoy thinking about OoCP like an alien invasion. Blindslight by Peter Watts is a really good example.
These ideas don't need to be an extended infodump, that's largely up to the skill of the author.
My ideal book would be a series of near future hard sci-fi where humanity has to effectively restructure society and in order to survive an existencial threat, dusting off plans for Project Orion, SDI or Marauder
as well as creating new technologies that wither away for lack of funding or patent hoarding.
So dear Anon, I hope that sufficiently illuminates you.

[Anonymous No.21066310]

>>21066203
Yes, it's fantastic. Particularly if you've read Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. If you haven't, it's still great. Just don't expect a plot driven by characters. It's a plot driven by autism. Book 1, 2 and 3 are thesis, antithesis and synthesis. They are aimed at you or not, I don't know you so can't say.

[Anonymous No.21066426]

>>21063595
>>21063595
I love the realm of the elderlings but I don't think I would suggest it to a girl I was dating

[Anonymous No.21066560]

[Anonymous No.21066563]

>>21066203
That's really a question of whether you like Asimov's style. I've read the first three and I thought they were alright. Foundation and Empire is the stand out book mostly because the Mule is such an interesting character

[Anonymous No.21066567]

Does anyone know if there is a single well-formatted epub file I can download from somewhere which includes everything ever written by HP Lovecraft?

[Anonymous No.21066601]

>>21066563
For me the first stands out due to the premise and the third stands out due to that sexy triple climax at the end. I admire the second mostly for being willing to violate the successful premise of the first.

[Anonymous No.21066622]

>>21066567
>Does anyone know if there is a single well-formatted epub file I can download from somewhere which includes everything ever written by HP Lovecraft?
Try z-lib, maybe there's a collection

[Anonymous No.21066636]

>>21066622

Found it, thanks.

[Anonymous No.21066781]

>>21063595
The Curse of Chalion and Black Sun Rising.

[Anonymous No.21066787]

>>21064053
Is Redemption Blade any good?

[Anonymous No.21066789]

>>21065669
Reverend Insanity for darker themes. A Will Eternal for comedy. Once upon a time, there was a Spirit Sword Mountain for the more intelligent reader. Against the Gods for tragedy. Warlock of the Magus World for bio-chip cultivation. Aspiring to the Immortal Path for thorough immersion and pushing plots to the maximum. Desolate Era for sword immortal.

[Anonymous No.21067001]

>>21066203

boring but canon. you need to read it to have context for everything that came after. it's a really easy, light read though.