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>Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake
>The King of Elfland's Daughter and The Sword of Welleran and Others by Lord Dunsany
>Kingdoms of Elfin by Sylvia Townsend Warner
>The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson
>Puck of Pook's Hill and Tales of Horror and Fantasy by Rudyard Kipling
>Gloriana by Michael Moorcock
>Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell and The Ladies of Grace Adieu by Susanna Clarke
>Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar series
>Orlando by Virginia Woolf
>Conan The Barbarian by Robert E. Howard
>M. John Harrison's Viriconium Series
>The Worm Ouroboros by E.R. Eddison
>Dictionary of the Khazars by Milorad Pavic
>Jack Vance's Lyonesse
>Ursula K. Le Guin's Wizard of Earthsea and Orsinian Tales
>Lud-in-the-Mist by Hope Mirlees
>Perdido Street Station and The Scar by China Mieville
>American Gods and Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman
Thoughts?

This is what he has said on the more known stuff:
>Robert Jordan: Wheel of Time (aimless, bland rewrite of Tolkien)
>C.S. Lewis: the Narnia series (erratic, condescending, flat characters)
>George R.R. Martin: Game of Thrones (lackluster writing, poorly-structured, full of unimportant characters, never goes anywhere)
>J.K. Rowling: the Harry Potter series (some interesting characters, but the plotting is needlessly drawn out and chaotic, author uses magic to cover plot holes, the world doesn't make sense, the conclusion is sudden and convenient)
>J.R.R. Tolkien: Lord of the Rings (an impressive intellectual exercise, but overall stodgy, unromantic, and convoluted)
>Gene Wolfe: Book of the New Sun (the few interesting ideas present are not explored, story centers on a narrator who is both unpleasant and dull, arbitrary magic solves plot conflicts)

>> No.21059302

Not a bad list, though Gaiman feels out of place. Wonder what does he think of The Black Company and Malazan.

>> No.21059322

>>21059302
>Not a bad list, though Gaiman feels out of place.
Yea, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Very reddit.

>> No.21059332
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>>21059098
Ok but what does he thinks of Bakker (pbuh) ?

>> No.21059335

>>21059098
>>Gene Wolfe: Book of the New Sun (the few interesting ideas present are not explored, story centers on a narrator who is both unpleasant and dull, arbitrary magic solves plot conflicts)
And Wolfefags hate J.G. Keely for saying this, yet they never managed to refute him.

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>>21059332
He said that his series makes for a good queer fantasy.

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>Yrku the Wise, son of Arku the Strong whose father built the Bridge of Tears in the Fifth Era of Darkness when Tupor still ruled Fumia with injustice and cruelty thanks to the power of his mighty sword Uyy-na'rin and his magic Oyalinian armor, was on his way to hunt some Jekko goblins in the old city of Yumuleth founded by Muya-T'len who was [...]
Any fantasy book that is not like this?

>> No.21059428

>>21059098
>gormenghast
>conan
>fucking worm ouroboros
>"""""""""modern"""""""""
contrarians shouldnt be allowed online

>> No.21059469

>>21059428
Well, although not contemporary, they certainly aren't ancient.

>> No.21059487

>>21059341
What is this fucking garbage?

>> No.21059533

>>21059487
Queer fantasy. It's for the LGBT community.

>> No.21059576

>>21059487
That's Scott Bakker's masterpiece.

>> No.21059893

I don't share his opinions. But if you are just looking for recs then download some George MacDonald, like The Golden Key or Phatastes, and get Little, Big by Crowley.

>> No.21060254

bump

>> No.21060416

>>21059335
But he has been refuted.

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>>21059098
>Gormenghast
>Fantasy
Gormenghast is pure, beautiful, schizophrenic poetry, it has nothing to do with the modern concept of 'fantasy'

>> No.21060513

>>21060478
>it has nothing to do with the modern concept of 'fantasy'
How about you read it before making a post about it.

>> No.21060693

>>21059098

His dismissal of Wolfe alone makes anything he's ever written in terms of review garbage.

>> No.21060752

>>21059098
There's not a single "critic" worth considering. All criticism is worthless for anyone not a sheep. I include the opinions of my favorite writers in that. Think for yourself.

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>>21059098
Clearly a contrarian

>> No.21062383

>>21060693
No, it elevates him since wolfefags tend to elevate that hack for no reason.