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Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:04:21 2022 No.21047678 [Reply] [Original]

>Upper middle class drug-addict adjacent extended adolescent coastal trust fund hyper-liberal grad school NYT reading neo-hippie culture represents the lived experience of 0.1% of the world population yet makes up 80% the background of prominent contemporary authors of literary fiction
>MFW people tell me its my fault for finding reading boring nowadays
everything is self-aggrandizing regurgitation. How is the corpus of human thought supposed to progress when 10 schools and 5 organizations determine 95% of what we read and consume?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:07:38 2022 No.21047685 >>21047678 Read non-fiction anon. It's actually pretty fun and useful. I can't force myself to care about any form of fiction anymore, non-fiction is just superior in every way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:13:19 2022 No.21047708 File: 23 KB, 600x400, Culture_smoothbrain_149424962.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21047685

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:21:59 2022 No.21047743

>>21047708
>"noooooo you have to read the heckin fiction book, how else are you gonna see the message or experience whatever stylistic trend is currently popular!!"
>look up an essay or two on the book, read a summary of the narrative, the themes and the technical elements and absorb all of that information in 1/20th of the time require to read the full book
>"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT, STOP, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:23:27 2022 No.21047749 >>21047743 Akin to reading about what drunkenness is like

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:32:10 2022 No.21047790 >>21047749 Is that supposed to be a negative comparison?

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:36:00 2022 No.21047804

>>21047685
2 pages of ideas followed by 500 pages of justification.
Everyone fresh out of their teens goes through a nonfiction phase. It's probably a rite of maturity. But good God you'll get bored after a few years. Except with history, history is eternal.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:39:35 2022 No.21047818
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>>21047678
Sorry sweetie but women run the literary business now and that's the sort of milieu and lifestyle they're most attracted to. Big city, influential friends, liberal politics, expensive clothes, drugs and casual Chad dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:46:37 2022 No.21047843 >>21047790 Yes, as I value direct experience more than non-fiction.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:47:23 2022 No.21047849

>>21047804
History is pretty good. Lately I have been reading more about religion. IMO, Plato is the absolute peak - the dialogues are a perfect combination of drama and philosophy. I certainly did not expect to laugh when reading Plato, but I did end up laughing, and rather often at that. Plato is a good writer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:48:36 2022 No.21047853 >>21047843 Direct experience of what? I don't suppose you act out everything you read in fiction books, so I doubt you are really having direct experience of the books you read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:54:35 2022 No.21047884 >>21047853 What? I was comparing reading a wikipedia summary of a book to reading about being drunk. Do you have autism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:54:45 2022 No.21047885 >>21047685 You should read both fiction and non-fiction instead of being a ride or die on this side of the line fag. Crazy oin'it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:58:43 2022 No.21047908 >>21047678 You're absolutely correct.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:02:50 2022 No.21047933

>>21047884
Bro you are literally just reading in both cases, the "directness" of the experience isn't affected. Only the object of experience is. The takeaway is the same regardless of whether you read a full book or a good summary.
>>21047885
I've tried, just can't, I used to read a lot of fiction as a kid, but now I just can't be bothered. I can get through novels much more quickly and easily by reading summaries. One of my friends is currently reading Kafka - an author I have never read - but I actually know more about the book he is reading than he does and have to be careful not to spoil him, simply because I've read summaries of it. Especially when it comes to serious fiction books that make a point, there is basically no reason to read the full book over a summary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:04:13 2022 No.21047939 File: 236 KB, 1200x1200, 2992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>21047933 The dangers of learning to read from public school.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:10:57 2022 No.21047960

>>21047933
>but I actually know more about the book he is reading than he does and have to be careful not to spoil him, simply because I've read summaries of it.
I am going to take a shot and guess you are talking about the "Metamorpheses". You watched "thug notes" or something and got that he transformed into a bug and it represents some existential fight or something. You infer this because you read Kafka's wikipedia page. Come on man, you want to be some intellectual elitist with your supposed aversion towards fiction yet you pull shit like that. I doubt you read many non fiction books, you look up those as well, most likely read the wikipedia page of something you want to learn about and a quick summary of the non-fiction book you want to read. You are young most likely. Grow out of this mindset. The only people that hold this are what we call "pseuds".

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:11:05 2022 No.21047963 >>21047685 /thread

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:17:36 2022 No.21048195

>>21047939
Poast private school adventures, poshboy.
>>21047960
I am referring to The Trial.
I prefer to read non-fictional sources in full, but if something is really boring and irrelevant to my life but I want to stay informed on it, I do get my information from secondary sources, yes. Although the strat is to always look at essays on the topic penned by good essayists rather than Wikipedia shit.
>You are young most likely.
Probably older than you lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:18:19 2022 No.21048198 >>21048195 >Probably older than you lol. Then you are even sadder!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:33:41 2022 No.21048260 >>21048198 Cope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:38:37 2022 No.21048278 >>21047678 Just read older stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:38:51 2022 No.21048281 >>21047678 You're right, it can't. It's impossible to write great literature within the constraints of political correctness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:44:45 2022 No.21048299 The only art left is to buy a gun. You know it’s true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 09:14:21 2022 No.21049116 >>21047678 Just read older stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 09:15:22 2022 No.21049117 >>21047678 Accurate and painful greenpost.

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