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21037024 No.21037024 [Reply] [Original]

How fascist is this guy?

>> No.21037056

>>21037024
>born before 1900
>asks: how much fascist am i?
Good Morning Sir, I'm sad to inform you that unless you develop a vampire/werewolf/mysterious millionaire alter ego you will be listed as 100% fascist.

>> No.21037069

The general will becomes the national will for fascists (it's the same thing but internationalism and the confusion of the idea of a principle of universal brotherhood with substantive political equality made the terminology change necessary)

>> No.21037076

>>21037024
He predates fascism by more than a century.

>> No.21037077

>>21037056
Excuse me?
>>21037069
Huhuh. I know his romanticism influenced nationalism, and I might be wrong...particularly German nationalism?

>> No.21037094

as much as he was a communist and an ancap

>> No.21037109

>>21037024
I read the social contract and it was 100% fascist. I don't know about his other books

>> No.21037114

>>21037076
I assume he meant what tendencies of Rousseau are compatible with or contributed to fascism. I think it's also fair to say that liberalism, when it was actually a revolutionary ideology struggling against monarchy, contained strains of thinking that would become fascism and left-socialism
>>21037077
I'm not sure but I would say that's plausible. Schmitt is insistent that Rousseau's not a liberal in the same way that he means when he attacks liberalism, because he's anti-parliamentarian. On the other hand the whole idea of a peaceful state of nature Schmitt very much dislikes. I also know that Primo de Rivera had a particular disdain for both romanticism and for Rousseau, though Primo de Rivera was a very different kind of fascist than Schmitt.

>> No.21037125

>>21037114
>I assume he meant what tendencies of Rousseau are compatible with or contributed to fascism. I think it's also fair to say that liberalism, when it was actually a revolutionary ideology struggling against monarchy, contained strains of thinking that would become fascism and left-socialism
You took the words right out of my mouth.
>I'm not sure but I would say that's plausible. Schmitt is insistent that Rousseau's not a liberal in the same way that he means when he attacks liberalism, because he's anti-parliamentarian. On the other hand the whole idea of a peaceful state of nature Schmitt very much dislikes. I also know that Primo de Rivera had a particular disdain for both romanticism and for Rousseau, though Primo de Rivera was a very different kind of fascist than Schmitt.
Interesting
bump

>> No.21037226

>>21037024
total fash bro

>> No.21037840

>>21037024
He's a liberal

>> No.21037856

He was republican, which by modern standards is fascist because it believes
>natural groups or collectives will always exist (like the French, or the Genevans, or the Americans)
>the general or national will of the collective is what matters
>the general will is always sovereign in the final analysis
For the modern brainwashed digital serf who thinks all human beings should be forced to accept atomistic individualism and borderless societies, this is right wing. But most liberals and republicans in the Enlightenment and the 19th century were "nationalists." Liberalism and nationalism went hand in hand in almost all national liberation movements in the 19th century.

>> No.21038055

>>21037856
Well said.

>> No.21038909

>>21037114
>liberalism, when it was actually a revolutionary ideology struggling against monarchy, contained strains of thinking that would become fascism and left-socialism

what your thinking of is nationalism.

>> No.21038924

>>21037076
OP doesn’t care.

>> No.21038966

>>21037856
>For the modern brainwashed digital serf who thinks all human beings should be forced to accept atomistic individualism and borderless societies
read Mao

>> No.21039098

>>21037056
You know most Fascists were born before 1900 right?

>> No.21039132

>>21037024
dont know what it is, but i love this portrait. something about it is just so pleasing

>> No.21039198

>>21037024

Hardly. By popularising the idea of the noble savage he indirectly helped to create the leftist cat ladies of today who view brown people as innocent, morally pure children.

>> No.21039490

>>21038966
Why Mao? What did he say?

>> No.21039502

>>21037024
Everyone in the past was a fascist.
Only now we are starting to acknowledge this fact, absolving ourselves from this vice and moving towards progress.

>> No.21039526

>>21038966
Dilate

>> No.21039643

>>21039132
It shows some of the best of 18th century portraiture. Not overly frilly or idealized, but it would absolutely be a portrait that you would hang up and pass down to remember someone before photography was invented. And even beneath the artistic smoothing over you can still get a sense of Rousseau and perhaps even an approximation of what he looked like, especially with that touch of color for his shaved beard. He wasn’t a dandy or wild romantic, nor was he an itinerant smirker like you see with portraits of Voltaire, but you can yet see a glimpse of an artistic sensitivity and self-assurance in the face. At least that’s one interpretation, I’m sure a very different one could be made by an enemy of Rousseau, of which he had several