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Who's your favorite Bible character ?

>> No.21030974

>>21030971
samuel

>> No.21030976
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>>21030974
Great choice !

>> No.21030998

>>21030971
you already told us that you would never come back to this malaysian field hockey forum, lara you fucking attention whore.

>> No.21030999

>>21030976
>revelation is about america
oh look, it has schizophrenia

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>>21030998
I changed my mind

>>21030999
Everything is explained here :

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2022/Revelation-What-It-Means-for-Gods-Enemies/

>> No.21031009

>>21030971
Did they really look like that?

>> No.21031011

OP is a French jeovah witness, who spams her shitty drawings on every board she visits.
She has spread her cancer to /his/ and /int/ and now there she is on /lit/.
Fuck off whore.

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>>21031011
Not true

>> No.21031020

>>21031002
>I changed my mind
of course your """jesus""" told you to do so

>> No.21031032

>>21031011
>she
It's a boy. He gets off on people thinking he's a girl, though.

>> No.21031034

>>21031032
She's a girl. An Aussie on /int/ proved it.

>> No.21031047

>>21030971
Ialdabaoth

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>>21031009
Idk

It's my artist's rendition

>> No.21031061

Isaac because of the video game he got :)

>> No.21031075

>>21030971
The Serpent (Jesus)

>> No.21031351

>>21031018
>Hitler was evil
>Stalin excluded
I knew your cult was anti-american, but I didn't realize it was against Europe as well.

>> No.21031358

>>21031034
Link for research?

>> No.21031396

Zacchaeus

Mainly because my Lutheran wife told me about him but also his encounter with Jesus is deeper than it seems.

>> No.21031414

>>21030971
Saul/Paul

The Apostle John

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>>21031414
Me too

>> No.21031468

Joseph (Son of Jacob)

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>> No.21031486

>>21030971
Lot

>> No.21031500

the invisible guy who followed jesus around and wrote down everything he did

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>>21031500
The holy spirit is not a person

>> No.21031576

Necho II for being Egyptian, probably killing a king of Judah and replacing him with his own vassal and being an identifiable real person

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Satan.

>> No.21031600

>>21030971
Daniel ofc

>> No.21031601

>>21030971
Abraham

>> No.21031636

>>21030971
I liked David he seemed like a very "human" and relatable character.

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>>21031600
Daniel is cool

>> No.21031768

How does this sect of christianity still exist after its prediction of end times in 1918 already failed?

>> No.21031775

>>21031018
>Hitler was evil for killing Christ-killers
At least be consistent, dude.

Also isn't a theological problem that the most special, intentionally-created humans, who walked with and talked face-to-face with God, rank among the most evil people in all of existence to you?

>> No.21031794

Has there been any official JW response to the fact that their use of "Jehovah" is a proven incorrect rendering of the Tetragrammaton?

>> No.21031801

>>21030971
You're my favorite shizo

>> No.21031808

Job

>> No.21031915

>>21030976
The Great Whore looks fun. I wanna hang out with her

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>>21031794
Jehovah is english for YHWH

>> No.21031960

Say what you will about the JW, at least they are right about the trinity being a latter invention with no basis in scripture.

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>>21031960
True !

>> No.21032003

Emperor Nero

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>>21031768
True, JWs, in their eagerness for Jesus’ second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect.

However

Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’

Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.’

The Watchtower has said: “We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425)

“Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306)
“it does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157)

“The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263)

“The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18)”—February 15, 1981, page 19.

>> No.21032016

>>21030971
Yeshua Christ

>> No.21032023

>>21031351
>>21031775
Hitler put JWs in the camp with the jews

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>>21032023
Indeed

the true victims of the holocaust were Jehovah's Witnesses.

For starters, Satan is the one behind the holocaust.

Secondly, he tried, as many times before, to have all of God's people killed. That's why he really wanted to get rid of JWs.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses

1,500 of Jehovah’s Witnesses died during the time of the Holocaust.

Close to 400 Witnesses were executed in Germany and in Nazi-occupied countries.

We were persecuted because they adhered to the Bible’s teachings. When the Nazis demanded that we do what the Bible forbids, we refused to comply. We chose to “obey God as ruler rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)

As are Witnesses in all countries today, JWs living under Nazi rule were neutral in political issues. (John 18:36) Therefore, they refused to serve in the military or support war efforts.—Isaiah 2:4; Matthew 26:52.

But Hitler/Satan failed, because God always protects his loyal worshippers. Just like he brought down Pharaoh and liberated the Hebrews from slavery, our Lord has out an end to Nazi persecution so that my brothers can once again worship in peace

>> No.21032051

>>21030971
I is this loss?

>> No.21032076

I liked Joab because he was a bad mofo and didn't afraid of anything

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>>21030971
""""J"""" """W"""" are a heretical sect that teach falsities and lies, they entrap their victims by threats of robbing them of everything they hold dear
If you are a JW, you are morally evil and I hope that our Lord and God Jesus Christ will have mercy on your souls for rejecting his divinity
Go back to spamming funnyjunk and /his/, your snake cult isn't welcome here

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>>21032089

“People will reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.”—Matthew 5:11, 12.

>> No.21032099

>>21031526
Why would God need an energy to create the universe, to inspire or to help? Isnt he all powerful.
The right answer can be found in the trinity
Same reason Jesus is God and also the Son of God

>> No.21032106

>>21032096
>“People will reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake.”—Matthew 5:11, 12.
Thats exactly what you are doing to Catholic teachings
Dont you see that you were deceived by a snake?

>> No.21032118

>>21031954
https://youtu.be/__7t_bGI8oo
*Stops you in your path*

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>>21032099
> Isnt he all powerful

Yes, and his power is called the holy spirit !

>>21032106
The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in DISAGREEMENT with what the Bible declares !!

These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, the trinity, prayer to saints or Mary, papacy, hellfire, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, involvement in wars and politics, the sacramental system, and purgatory.

These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, NOT the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles !!!

>> No.21032135

>>21032099
Kek JW don't even accept Nicaea?

>> No.21032145

>>21032121
The Word of God only exists if you accept tradition. Everything else is cope.

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>>21032118
>Jehovah isn't God's name bevause it's not Hebrew

By this logic you shouldn't say Jesus because his name is ישוע (Yeshua) !

>>21032135
The trinity doctrine DISHONORS Jehovah God !

NO ONE is his equal; nor did he have a fleshly mother, since Jesus was not God.

the Trinity doctrine has confused and diluted people’s understanding of God’s true position. It prevents people from accurately knowing the Universal Sovereign, Jehovah God, and from worshiping him on his terms.

As theologian Hans Küng said:
“Why should anyone want to add anything to the notion of God’s oneness and uniqueness that can only dilute or nullify that oneness and uniqueness?”

But that is what belief in the Trinity has done

>>21032145
I believe the word of God, not the tradition of men

>> No.21032166

>>21031002
>Transubstantiation isn’t real
>Catholics are cannibals
Pick one.

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>>21032166
Jesus could not have meant that his followers were literally to eat his flesh and drink his blood

After the Flood, when God gave man permission to eat the flesh of animals, he directly forbade man to consume blood. (Genesis 9:3, 4)

This command was repeated in the Mosaic Law, which Jesus obeyed fully. (Deuteronomy 12:23; 1 Peter 2:22)

And the apostles were inspired by holy spirit to renew the command against consuming blood, making that law binding upon all Christians. (Acts 15:20, 29)

Would Jesus institute an observance that would require his followers to violate a sacred decree of Almighty God ?

Impossible !

Clearly, then, Jesus used the bread and wine as symbols. The unleavened bread meant, or represented, his sinless body that would be sacrificed. The red wine signified his blood that would be poured out “in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.”—Matthew 26:28.

>> No.21032181

>>21032121
>Yes, and his power is called the holy spirit!
Hmm, wouldn't that mean that the holy spirit is the same as God but also distinct? So the trinity is correct again
>>21032121
>apostolic succession
Peter is the rock, the foundation of the Chruch. The JW started from a doomsday cult in the 19th century
> transubstantiation
>not biblical
Of course, since you reject that Jesus is Lord
>worship of saints or Mary
Veneration and honoring people and asking them to pray for you in heaven isn't worship. Also Mary is the mother of God, only a heretic and 19th century misogynist would dare reject her holiness
>papacy
Peter the Rock, not Russell the freemason
>hellfire
Revelations
>Purgatory
Biblical, also God is the greatest good and everyone will eventually meet and return to God. I will pray for your brethren that in the afterlife their souls will realise the lies they were thought, but the sin of teaching lies for sure must be a heavy burden. Lets hope that they can forgive themselves for leading people astray from the true faith and our God Jesus Christ
https://youtu.be/iXDt8WHSPhU

>> No.21032184

>>21031018
>Hitler is evil for supposedly killing jews
>YHWH already wants to do this and has done it

So yahweh is basicslly confirmed evil then like we all suspected

>> No.21032186

>>21032148
>Jehovah isn't God's name bevause it's not Hebrew
Thats not the argument. The argument is that Jehovah literally isn't the name of God, it was made to avoid saying Gods real name
You are closer saying Kyle instead of Jehovah

>> No.21032189

>>21032023
After this thread, I can see why.

>> No.21032191

>>21032174
The Bible also says “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written: Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree”

>> No.21032192

La virgen was the best one, many believe she had a nice culo

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>>21032181
>Hmm, wouldn't that mean that the holy spirit is the same as God but also distinct?

The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. (Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35)

God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will. !
—Psalm 104:30; 139:7.

>Peter is the rock

The Gospels reveal that, on a number of occasions, they argued about who was the greatest among them. (Matthew 20:20-27; Mark 9:33-35; Luke 22:24-26)

If Jesus had already given Peter primacy, or superiority, could there have been any question as to who was the greatest among the apostles ?

Anyway, we should we see how did Peter himself understand Jesus’ words

Growing up an Israelite, Peter would have been familiar with various Hebrew prophecies speaking of a “stone” or a “cornerstone.” (Isaiah 8:13, 14; 28:16; Zechariah 3:9)

When he quoted one of them in a letter to his fellow believers, Peter explained that the prophesied “cornerstone” was the Lord Jesus Christ, the Messiah. Peter used the Greek term pe’tra (the same word found in Jesus’ statement at Matthew 16:18) for CHRIST ALONE.—1 Peter 2:4-8.

>JW started from a doomsday cult in the 19th century

Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Jesus Christ in 33 AD during Pentecost in Antioch

>you reject that Jesus is Lord

What do you mean ? The Bible calls Jesus 'Lord' in many places. How can you reject that ?

>Veneration and honoring people and asking them to pray for you in heaven isn't worship

The Bible shows that we should pray only to God, in Jesus’ name.

Jesus told his disciples:
“This is how you are to pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.” (Matthew 6:9)

NEVER did he instruct his disciples to pray to saints, angels, or anyone other than God !!

Jesus also told his followers: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6, NAB)

ONLY Jesus is authorized by God to intercede on our behalf.—Hebrews 7:25.

>> No.21032196

>>21032148
>NO ONE is his equal
Correct, that's why the trinity is 3 but equal
>nor did he have a fleshly mother
He had, and she was called Mary
>since Jesus was not God
That is a lie
>As theologian Hans Küng said
Thats outside the Bible :^)
Why dont you refute Saint Thomas saying "My Lord, my God" to Jesus?
Why dont you refute Jesus himself, who said "Me and My Father are One"

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>>21032181
>Russell the freemason

Russell wasn't a freemason.

But even IF (and I say IF) he was, we are not followers of Russell. We are followers of Jesus !

"The head of every man is Christ." (1 Corinthians 11:3)

>hellfire

Hell doesn't exist, it's a pagan doctrine that already existed in Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Indian and Greek religion. It was then adopted by professed "christians" and later by islam.

Eternal torment would violate God’s justice. (Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence:
“Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19)

God would have been LYING if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell !!!

God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is LOVE.”—1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31.

>Purgatory

Debunked

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/is-purgatory-in-the-bible/

>>21032186
Jehovah english for the Tetragrammaton. It retains the same consonants.

>> No.21032214

>>21032195
>The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force
Yeah, God is Being and he is pure act. God and the Holy Spirit are One. Its distinct but same as God
Or do you want to claim that its not actually "his" power, like the gnostics did with the Demiurge?
>Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Jesus Christ in 33 AD during Pentecost in Antioch
Jesus Christ didn't fail to predict the doomsday 15 times
Also JW started as a bible study group, and how could have the JW existed in the year 33ad if the Bible still hasn't been written? Its obvious that Bible exclusivity is wrong and that the ecumenic churches (Coptic, Syriac, Apostolic, Catholic, Orthodox) are the true churches

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>>21032196
>Correct, that's why the trinity is 3 but equal

Not in the Bible

>He had, and she was called Mary

Mary is the mother of Jesus !

>Why dont you refute Saint Thomas saying "My Lord, my God" to Jesus?

As Thomas was a strict monotheistic Jew, he believed that the almighty God was one person, the Father. (Deuteronomy 32:6, Isaiah 63:16; 64:8; Jeremiah 31:9, Psalm 89:26; Malachi 2:10)

He was also aware of Jesus’ preaching that the Father is the “only true God.” (John 17:1-5) Jesus even told Mary in John 20:17 that he will ascend to his Father and God. (Compare with Revelation 3:12.)

And in verse 31 John tells us that the point of his Gospel is that Jesus is the Son of God. Notice how John did NOT repeat Thomas’ exclamation.

This is consistent with Paul’s declaration in 1 Corinthians 8:6, where he clearly stated that God is the Father and that Jesus is the Lord. Thomas was also likely aware that Jesus told Philip that “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father also.” (John 14:9)

Thomas’ declaration also shows the fulfillment of Jesus’ prayer to his Father and God at John 17:21 that his disciples would recognize that he is in union with the Father, like what he said in John 10:30 that he and his Father are “one,” thus recognizing that seeing Jesus is like also seeing the Almighty God and Father, who is an unseen spirit. (John 1:18; 4:24)

Thus, Thomas seeing the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ was the “same” as seeing his Father and God.

>> No.21032229

>>21032211
>t's a pagan doctrine that already existed in Egyptian
Monotheism already existed in Zoroastrianism and Akhenatenism
The existence of souls is an even older tradition
And Jesus was prophetized by the Zoroastrians too
>Eternal torment would violate God’s justice
Yes, that's why hell isn't eternal and purgatory exists
>Jehovah english for the Tetragrammaton
No, its Jahve, Jehovah is simply wrong

>>21032218
>Not in the Bible
Cope

>>21032218
>As Thomas was a strict monotheistic Jew, he believed that the almighty God was one person, the Father.
none of these quotes claim that, they obviously show that Thomas believed in God, not that he was one person nor that Thomas rejects the divinity of Jesus
>Notice how John did NOT repeat Thomas’ exclamation.
Why would he, he already said "My Father and I are One"

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>>21032196
>Why dont you refute Jesus himself, who said "Me and My Father are One"

That this did not mean that Jesus claimed to be the Father or to be God is evident from his reply !

The oneness to which Jesus referred must be understood in harmony with the context of his statement.

He was speaking of his works and his care of the “sheep” who would follow him. His works, as well as his words, demonstrated that there was unity, not disunity and disharmony, between him and his Father, a point his reply went on to emphasize. (John 10:25, 26, 37, 38; John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38-40; 8:16-18.)

As regards his “sheep,” he and his Father were likewise at unity in their protecting such sheeplike ones and leading them to everlasting life. (John 10:27-29; Ezekiel 34:23, 24.)

Jesus’ prayer on behalf of the unity of all his disciples, including future ones, shows that the oneness, or union, between Jesus and his Father was not as to identity of person but as to PURPOSE and ACTION !

In this way Jesus’ disciples could “ALL BE ONE,” just as he and his Father ARE ONE.—John 17:20-23.

>>21032214
>Or do you want to claim that its not actually "his" power, like the gnostics did with the Demiurge?

Consider the virgin birth of Christ.

If the holy spirit is a person, the third person of the Trinitarian Godhead, then a person is responsible for Mary’s pregnancy. PERIOD. (Or in Mary’s case, no period, lol)

Thus, it sure sounds like Trinitarianism unwittingly teaches that God had SEX with Mary, thus not a virgin !

It looks like a sexual union of an alien person with a human female, giving the holy spirit the role of an INCUBUS.

It would also give the holy spirit the role of Jesus’ father and not the Father. But speaking of unwittingly placing the Trinitarian Holy Spirit person into the category of an incubus demon

Your belief is BLASPHEMY, and unwittingly confirms that Trinitarianism presents its Holy Spirit person as an incubus demon possessing Mary and thus not a virgin, which is anathema. Anathema on top of blasphemy !!!!

(◕‿◕)

>Also JW started as a bible study group

Jehovah is the personal name of God, as found in the Bible. (Exodus 6:3; Psalm 83:18) A witness is a person who proclaims views or truths of which he is convinced.

Thus, our name Jehovah’s Witnesses designates us as a group of Christians who proclaim the truth about Jehovah, the Creator of all things ! (Revelation 4:11)

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>>21032229
>Monotheism already existed in Zoroastrianism and Akhenatenism

The worship of Jehovah predates both !

>Yes, that's why hell isn't eternal and purgatory exists

“It is noteworthy that in the N[ew] T[estament] we do not find hell fire to be a part of the [early Christian] preaching.”—A Dictionary of Christian Theology.

“From the middle of the 2nd century [C.E.] Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in its terms . . . The philosophy that suited them best was Platonism [the teachings of Plato].” (Encyclopædia Britannica)

That philosophy included belief in fiery torment after death !

“Of all classical Greek philosophers, the one who has had the greatest influence on traditional views of Hell is Plato.”—Histoire des enfers (The History of Hell).

Sorry, I will NOT believe in PAGAN doctrines !

>nor that Thomas rejects the divinity of Jesus

I do believe Jesus is divine. That's what John 1:1 says. But I don't believe Jesus is Almighty God.

“My Father is greater than I [Jesus].”—John 14:28.

“I [Jesus] ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God.”—John 20:17.

“To us there is but one God, the Father.”—1 Corinthians 8:6.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”—1 Peter 1:3.

“These things saith the Amen [Jesus], . . . the beginning of the creation of God.”—Revelation 3:14.

He is divine because Jesus is a mighty spiritual creature, second only to God and he is now king in heaven !

Jehovah God used him as our savior in order for us to put faith in him and attain salvation !

>> No.21032272

>>21030971
The Serpent (Jesus)

>> No.21032279

>>21032023
And they'll never let you forget it. Never mind that they could just renounce their faith, even disingenuously, and get away and they were treated better than other antisocial groups.

They kvetch about it almost as much as you know who. Their identity is founded in a persecution complex.

>> No.21032292

>>21032238
>Consider the virgin birth of Christ.

>If the holy spirit is a person, the third person of the Trinitarian Godhead, then a person is responsible for Mary’s pregnancy. PERIOD. (Or in Mary’s case, no period, lol)

>Thus, it sure sounds like Trinitarianism unwittingly teaches that God had SEX with Mary, thus not a virgin !

This is completely false and a strawman argument. The Holy Spirit being a person doesn't mean that God physically penetrated Mary. This is just a ridiculous blasphemy that JW constantly use, and a false argument not to mention.
By your own logic, God uses a ENERGY to impregnate Mary. A different name for energy is force, thus is seems that JW teach that Mary was raped by force!

>It looks like a sexual union of an alien person with a human female, giving the holy spirit the role of an INCUBUS.
And giving the ENERGY the role of a rapist flying penis

>It would also give the holy spirit the role of Jesus’ father and not the Father.
Not because you reject that the holy spirit is God and God is the holy spirit. This is a false argument

>But speaking of unwittingly placing the Trinitarian Holy Spirit person into the category of an incubus demon
Says the rapist

>Your belief is BLASPHEMY, and unwittingly confirms that Trinitarianism presents its Holy Spirit person as an incubus demon possessing Mary and thus not a virgin, which is anathema. Anathema on top of blasphemy !!!!
You belive that God used a energy to forcibly impregnate mary
>Jehovah is the personal name of God, as found in the Bible.
KJV version isn't the Bible silly
>The worship of Jehovah predates both !
Zoroastrianism is older than Judaism

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>>21032229
>No, its Jahve

Or is it ?

https://religionnews.com/2018/01/25/the-original-hebrew-name-of-god-re-discovered-in-1000-bible-manuscripts/

>>21032279
we're the most persecuted religion

https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-the-worlds-most-persecuted-religion/
https://theconversation.com/jehovahs-witnesses-neglected-victims-of-persecution-114141

And that's OKAY.

We have the ALMIGHTY at our side.

"No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper." (Isaiah 54:17)

Satan always tried to use the government to persecute Jehovah's witnesses.

He tried with Pharaoh in the 16th century BC
He tried with Nero in the 1st century AD
He tried with Hitler during the 20th century AD
He tries with Putin right now

but Jehovah always protects his people !

Jehovah's Witnesses in the 1st century were thrown to lions and turned into human torches by the Roman emperors.

And yet, 2000 years later we still exist and the Eoman emperor is NO MORE !

Hitler vowed to destroy Jehovah's chosen people into oblivion

Now it is Hitler that is destroyed forever and JWs still live

Praise be to our LORD JEHOVAH !

>> No.21032295

>>21032293
>JW posts false JW sources
typical, you dont even use the real Bible

>> No.21032296

>>21030971
That dude who was gonna cut the kid in half because two broads were fighting over it

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>>21032292
But it isn't a person

By referring to God’s spirit as his “hands,” “fingers,” or “breath,” the Bible shows that the holy spirit is NOT a person ! (Exodus 15:8, 10)

A craftsman’s hands cannot function independent of his mind and body; likewise, God’s holy spirit operates only as he directs it. (Luke 11:13)

The Bible also compares God’s spirit to water and associates it with such things as faith and knowledge. These comparisons all point to the impersonal nature of the holy spirit.—Isaiah 44:3; Acts 6:5; 2 Corinthians 6:6.

>Zoroastrianism is older than Judaism

Is not

Judaism = 1513 BCE
Zoroaster (a near contemporary of Cyrus) = 7/6th century BCE

>> No.21032302

>>21032295
They aren't allowed to look at sources not approved by the Watchtower Society or even consult older WS publications that contradict present doctrine. You can't expect more.

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>>21032295
Truly it is not your eyes that are blind, but your heart.

>> No.21032307

>>21032301
Judaism wasn't Monotheistic until the 5th century BC

>> No.21032311

>>21032301
You are confusing person with human. Whats next? Are you going to explain how the concept of public and private person is wrong since a company cant have fingers? What about a legal person? Does the crown of England have fingers too?
>Judaism = 1513 BCE
Proving that JW are Moloch worshippers

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>>21032302
No offense but all the anti-JW arguments I've ever heard, this is the stupidest one I have ever heard !

Why don't you accuse us of sacrifing babies or communicating with aliens while you're at it ?

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>>21032307
Jehivah God gave the 10 tablets to Moses in 1513 BCE

>>21032311
The holy spirit is neither a human or a person, it is the divine impersonal force !

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>>21032307
Jehovah God gave the 10 tablets to Moses in 1513 BCE

>>21032311
The holy spirit is neither a human or a person, it is the divine impersonal force !

>> No.21032331

>>21032301
I know you're trolling with this chart, but come on with chart. It's just blatantly wrong. The old adage that what can be asserted without evidence can simply be rejected without evidence applies. You're just talking past the guy you are replying to.

>> No.21032333

>>21032301
"Yahwism" was formed from semitic paganism
African animism developed separately from the middle east
the "eastern orthodox" split from catholicism over the filioque controversy, not the other way around, and you skipped over the non chalcedonian churches
Jehovas Witnnesses didnt diverge from early Christianity, nor do they have anything in common with them, they are a result of the second (or third?) wave of protestant churches in the anglosphere
If anything you can claim that they are a revived branch of Arianism

>> No.21032334

>>21032320
>Jehivah God gave the 10 tablets to Moses in 1513 BCE
Exactly. During that same event the Israelites were busy worshipping Hathor. Probably as the wife of Yahweh.

>> No.21032340

>>21032325
Jesus died on the cross, you retards keep claiming that it was a pole based on extra-biblical sources

>> No.21032346

>>21032301
Damn, that near eastern pagan is one hot mama

>> No.21032351

>>21032325
Silly God waiting till the 19th century to chose for himself a new people, it wasn't a doomsday cult by any means just like the million others at that time :^)

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>>21032331
>It's just blatantly wrong

Proof ?

>"Yahwism" was formed from semitic paganism African animism developed separately from the middle east

Wrong. It's the worship of Jehovah.

Adam was the first human to worship Jehovah

>>21032334
>During that same event the Israelites were busy worshipping Hathor

Some Israelites may have adopted polytheism back in Egypt. That's why Jehovah set the record straight by giving the 1st commandment:

« I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You must not have any other gods besides me. » (Exodus 20:2)

>>21032340
I can't read ancinet Greek so I trust what Greek experts say. And Greek experts say that the Bible doesn't use the word cross at all !

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>>21032351
we still exist despite 2000 years of persecution

jw.org is the most translated website in the world

we are the only religion who have discerned Jesus' parousia in 1914

We are a united brotherhood with no distinction of race or social background unlike the people arround us

The logical implication is that we are under God's protection !

>> No.21032367

>>21032358
>You must not have any other gods besides me
It's "before me". They worshipped other Gods, Yahweh just held a chief position.

>> No.21032379

>>21032148
>Jesus was not God.
So JW are basically muslims

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>>21032367
Yes, the nations around them worshipped false gods. That's why Jehovah told them not to have other gods before him, since he is the ONLY TRUE GOD !

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>>21032379
I am not muslim !

Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the stake. They do not understand why Allah would allow His prophet Isa to die a torturous death. Yet the Bible shows how the death of the perfect Son of God was essential to pay for the sins of the world (Isaiah 53:5-6; John 3:16; 14:6; 1 Peter 2:24).

Islam teaches that the Qur'an is the final authority and the last revelation of Allah. The Bible, however, was completed in the first century with the Book of Revelation. The Bible warns against anyone adding to or subtracting from God’s Word (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6; Galatians 1:6-12; Revelation 22:18).

The Qur’an, as a claimed addition to God’s Word, directly disobeys God’s command.

Muslims believe that paradise can be earned through keeping the Five Pillars. The Bible, in contrast, reveals that sinful man can never measure up to the holy God (Romans 3:23; 6:23). Only by God’s grace may sinners be saved through repentant faith in Jesus (Acts 20:21; Ephesians 2:8-9).

Because of these essential differences and contradictions, Islam and Christianity cannot both be true. The Bible and Qur’an cannot both be God’s Word. The truth has eternal consequences.

“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world” (1 John 4:1-4).

>> No.21032390

>>21032364
>we still exist despite 2000 years of persecution
You mean 100?
>jw.org is the most translated website in the world
Pornhub is the second most translated website, so?
>we are the only religion who have discerned Jesus' parousia in 1914
Ah yes, the failed prediction that was true because it was invisible. You know that the flame doesn't boil the pot but that there is an invisible element called boilo that spawns whenever you place a pot on a fire?
>We are a united brotherhood with no distinction of race or social background unlike the people arround us
Mainstream Christianity teaches that there is no greek or jew in God. You teach that there is a difference between your cult followers and normal people. You also teach complete isolation and social rejection of people who decided to leave your cult (you teach difference based on social background)
>The logical implication is that we are under God's protection !
The only logical implication is that people tolerate your retarded asses because Hitler wanted you rightfully dead for rejecting the draft. The same reason all other degeneracy is tolerated
>>21032379
Yes, they are Arians

>> No.21032394

>>21032389
These images are so bizarre and creepy

>> No.21032395

>>21032389
>I am not muslim !
You do not submit to God? Repulsive

>> No.21032396

>>21030971
Aside from Christ, Peter.

>> No.21032397

>>21030971
Moses.
It was his duty to form the dissolute and formless husk of the Israelites into a nation, a people.
He also lead them to a land he knew he would never live to see.

In this, I see the ultimate expression of the task for right wing men in my generation.

If we are good stewards in our time, and faithful to God's plan - then one day our children's children might live in the Holy Land of the White Man's Christendom that was promised.

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>>21032390
>You mean 100?

I mean 2000 !

>Pornhub is the second most translated website, so?

And jw.org is the first ! Because Jehovah wants EVERYONE on earth to come to know him !

>Ah yes, the failed prediction

Not a failed prediction at all. According to the chronology of Daniel, Jesus was anointed king in 1914. It is also the year when the End Times started !

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/ebtv/kingdom-began-ruling-1914/

That is why we know the End is VERY SOON

>Mainstream Christianity teaches that there is no greek or jew in God

Correct. Despite being of different backgrounds, we are all united in Christ !

>they are Arians

Calling me an Arian makes no sense. Nobody calls the apostles arians. They existed before Arius was born. My faith is older than arianism.

>> No.21032413

>>21032389
Nowhere in the Bible does it say to only read the Bible, and the Bible is just a collection of Holy Books
You reject some of the Books that the Early Christians didn't
The Quran is the word of God through Muhammed, and God clearly wasn't about people like you and your brotherhood because you are false prophets (the invisible thing that didn't happen in 1914 is a lie, you are blasphemous and will not reach Jannah, because so is the will of the Almighty, of Allah)

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>>21032394
I do my best :(

I use MS Paint

>>21032395
Jehovah's witnesses are the true muslims because we are the only ones worshipping the True God.

Jesus (pbuh) was a muslim.
muhammad was not

>> No.21032418

>>21032404
>>That is why we know the End is VERY SOON
You people claimed that over and over again, and it didn't happen
The Bible clearly says that nobody know when its going to happen, thus all of JW is blasphemous and goes directly against the bible


No One Knows When Jesus Will Come Again
35 “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 But no one knows the day or the hour. No! Not even the angels in heaven know. The Son does not know. Only the Father knows.

You claim to have knowledge that is equal to Gods, may he have mercy on your souls

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>>21032413
the content of Muhammad’s revelations, in particular the teaching that salvation must be earned by works, and the denial of the death of Jesus Christ, Muhammad’s revelations are FALSE, coming from a source other than the One True God JEHOVAH !

the differences between the God of the Bible and the Allah of Islam are too great to consider them the same deity, despite Muhammad’s proclamations that his revelations came from the God of Adam, Abraham, Jesus, etc, Allah’s “mercy” is dependent upon the right actions of his followers.

The God of the Bible, in contrast, has always given His followers the promise of forgiveness dependent on His grace through faith, rather than on the ability of men (Genesis 15:6; Exodus 34:6–9; Psalm 130:3)

>> No.21032428

>>21032418
Not to mention the follow up

"If anyone says to you, ‘See! Here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it. 24 People who say they are Christ and false preachers will come. They will do special things for people to see. They will do great things, so that if it can be done, God’s people will be fooled to believe something wrong. 25 Listen! I have told you before it comes. 26 If they tell you, ‘See! He is in the desert,’ do not go to see. Or if they say, ‘See! He is in the inside room,’ do not believe them. 27 The Son of Man will come as fast as lightning shines across the sky from east to west. 28 Birds gather wherever there is a dead body."

JW instead of the desert claim that its an invisible desert! JW is the church of the antichrist, that's why it needs websites to be translated in every language instead of the love and mercy of God

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>>21032418
>You people claimed that over and over again, and it didn't happen

2 Peter 3:9
"God is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."

You only have to be patient and teust in God !

Jehovah knows what he's doing.

>> No.21032433

>>21030971
Job
he’s just like me

>> No.21032435

>>21032430
>"God is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."
Proof of purgaty
And yet again you claim to know when its going to happen, which is directly against the word of God

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>>21032435
>And yet again you claim to know when its going to happen

When did I say that ?

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."(Matthew 24:36)

God knows when he shall intervene. We just know it is very soon, for the reasons already evoqued.

We only have to stay alert and tell as many people as we can about God's coming Kingdom :D

>> No.21032448

>>21032441
>When did I say that ?
>We just know it is very soon, for the reasons already evoqued.
There

By saying "soon" you are claiming to have knowledge of when the end of days is going to happen. The only true answer is "i do not know", but JW, being a heretical cult, obviously needs to fabricate claims to keep its followers in check, thus you keept historically repeating different dates and coming up with excuses (either it was "damn we weren't ready" or "it totally happened but it was invisible")
Just face it, you are lied to, you were introduced to a heretical sect. Save your soul while you still can

>> No.21032454

>>21032441
>Only the Father knows
>We just know
Cringe

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>>21032448
>By saying "soon" you are claiming to have knowledge of when the end of days is going to happen

When did I say I know when it was ?

We just know it's soon, as Jesus foretold many things that together would be “the sign” to identify the last days (Matthew 24):

War on a large scale
Famine
Great earthquakes
Disease
Crime
Ruining of the earth
Deteriorating attitudes
Breakdown of the family
Diminished love of God
Religious hypocrisy
Increased understanding of Bible prophecies
A global preaching work
Widespread apathy and ridicule (you)

And last but not least, ALL prophecies fulfilled: Jesus said that the last days would be marked by the simultaneous fulfillment of all these prophecies, not just a few or even most of them !—Matthew 24:33.

>> No.21032500

>>21030971
Muhammad ﷺ

>> No.21032742

>>21032464
>When did I say I know when it was?
When does the train arrive?
>Soon

>> No.21033343

>>21031018
this is clearly 6 people stupid fuck

>> No.21033739

>>21030976
The two witnesses are Enoch and Elijah.

>> No.21033758

>>21033739
Explanation: they're the most likely choice because they'll die during the tribulation. The Bible says everyone will die, and they were the only two people who never died. There are two witnesses.

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>the jw tranny schizo has now started shitting up /lit/ as well

>> No.21033799

>>21030971
Satan

>> No.21034237

>>21032195
nice feet. can u do mary next?

>> No.21034271

>>21032166
>Transubstantiation
That meme clearly says TRANSUBSTITUTION

>> No.21034289

>>21032121
>apostolic succession

The role of apostolic succession in preserving true doctrine is stated by Paul: To make sure that the apostles’ teachings would be passed down after the deaths of the apostles, Paul told Timothy:
>“[W]hat you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also” (2 Tim. 2:2).

In this passage Paul refers to THE FIRST THREE GENERATIONS of apostolic succession—his own generation, Timothy’s generation, and the generation Timothy will teach.

This is consistent with one of the earliest extrabiblical Christian documents, the letter of Clement to the Corinthians:
>>“Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier.... Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (42:4–5, 44:1–3).

>The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in DISAGREEMENT with what the Bible declares !!
Your remarks are a cut and paste from this thread (and probably others):

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13959518/#13959624

Indeed, it goes back to November 2021, having evolved since then with CAPS and exclamation marks!!!

See: https://desuarchive.org/his/search/text/DISAGREEMENT%20with%20what%20the%20Bible%20declares/

I do quite enjoy your drawings, and wish you well. I don't really get the incredible hostility some posters seem to have in your regard.

>> No.21034329

Jehovah's Witnesses are heretics and will not be saved.

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>>21032174
Your image is parochial.

>> No.21034502

>>21030971
The donkey who carried Mary

>> No.21034540

>>21032009
>*ceased
If I were god, I’d punish my followers’ spelling mistakes with damnation.

>> No.21034798 [DELETED] 

>>21034289
>Your remarks are a cut and paste from this thread (and probably others):

These are my posts

>> No.21035288

>>21034329
The fuck are you on about?

>> No.21035496

>>21031018
stupid bratty Eve... teach you lesson about eating fruit of knowledge... needs mortality and pain-during-birth correction

>> No.21035512

Gideon

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Lot’s daughters

>> No.21035550

Whats the moral of the Prodigal Son?

>> No.21035592

>>21035550
If things don’t work out go back to dad and ask for free gibs

>> No.21035608

>>21035496
looooool

>> No.21035661

>>21035592
Why didnt father give free gibs to him older son?

>> No.21035981

>>21031002
God will curse you with sickness and death for drinking totally normal bread and wine
>So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

>> No.21036520

>>21030971
King David

>> No.21036545

absolutely based jw witnessing on /lit/ of all places

>> No.21036629

>>21031500
there were dozens of people writing down things jesus did