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Anonymous Thu Sep 22 21:39:34 2022 No.21028618 [Reply] [Original]

I want to be like the Druids of old who were more than just priests, they were legal authorities, adjudicators, lorekeepers, medical professionals and political advisors.

What should I read to get me on that path?

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 21:45:55 2022 No.21028652

>>21028618
Lawbooks
Legal treatises
Law dictionaries
Casebooks
Legal history books
Medical manuals
Medical textbooks

What, you didn't think you would find all this stuff in some occult library, did you? You can't read books on magic spells and ancient rituals to become a lawyer-doctor-politician you tard. This is one of the stupidest questions I've seen on this board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 21:46:32 2022 No.21028655 >>21028652 Where did OP say anything about the occult?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 22:00:38 2022 No.21028706 >>21028669 Simba :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 22:45:04 2022 No.21028853 Reading to become like a Druid is inherently oxymoronic. Druids were bound by tradition to never write down their learnings. To read is to be anti-Druidic.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:22:46 2022 No.21028971

>>21028618
They were initiates. At least they would have been originally, who knows if they were true initiates near the end. The definition I use for initiation is, I believe, the same as that of Guenon, meaning that the individual in question had undergone an ontological shift (upward) of his consciousness. He had transcended the merely temporal, average human state. That is why they were masters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:24:15 2022 No.21028980 >>21028971 lmao, I'd be real interested in knowing which book you misread to think that's what Guenon meant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:25:49 2022 No.21028987 >>21028980 Perspectives on Initiation, probably. What did he actually mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:29:39 2022 No.21028995 >>21028987 The initiation is about the apprentice-master relationship, not the "consciousness" of one individual. There is no initiation in the mind of a single man.

Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:35:08 2022 No.21029017

>>21028995
>words
In Guenonian initiation the candidate undergoes a fundamental, permanent change in his consciousness, reaching a supra-mundane state. If you're going to argue that it was never actually "his" consciousness, that is just mindless pedantry. Or maybe you don't know what the actual meaning behind your words is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:37:39 2022 No.21029023 >>21029017 Again, I'd really be interested to know what books you misread, it could not have been just Apercus Sur L'Initiation

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:43:59 2022 No.21029042 >>21029023 >can't engage with the argument >initiation means like student-master relationship, consciousness doesnt matter >won't say anymore I don't think you understood Guenon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:44:41 2022 No.21029046 >>21029042 Listen, just tell me the books you misread, it's a simple question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 22 23:47:14 2022 No.21029053 >>21028618 >>21029023 Druids only practiced oral history.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:06:17 2022 No.21029149 >>21029053 Only oral? Well, I guess they share something in common with your mother then, lmaoooo

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:07:58 2022 No.21029158 >>21029149 dabbed on the celts qnd your whore mom Congrats

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:11:00 2022 No.21029178
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>>21028618
We know basically nothing about the OG druids, other than a few brief anecdotes that some Roman emperors wrote. Anything being presented as "druid" is just neopagan LARP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:18:04 2022 No.21029215 >>21029046 Good argument, high quality dialogue

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:22:49 2022 No.21029243 >>21029178 They would have been initiates originally. The "Serpent's Egg" is a druidic mystery, where the coils of the serpent must be opened to access the Serpent's Egg.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 00:47:23 2022 No.21029390 >>21028655 the phrase , "Druids of Old" kinuv elicits the dark arts? >>21028652 >>21028853 >>21029178 No Cap, then ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 01:11:08 2022 No.21029506 >>21028618 read the Vedic scriptures

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 01:44:20 2022 No.21029625 You need to practise hopping about like a wren. Then you might want to destroy a couple of bird feeders. Once you get a murmuration, you'll have plenty of others to ask.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 02:15:32 2022 No.21029751 >>21028652 This and practice semen retention and take low amphetamine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 02:17:37 2022 No.21029760 >>21029751 >low amphetamine How low are we talking? 2mg? 5? 10?

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 02:21:33 2022 No.21029773

>>21028995
>The initiation is about the apprentice-master relationship
The initiation, in the terms he usually describes it, is a transmission of influence and supra-rational knowledge from master to initiate. That is why initiates can eventually become masters in their own right, independently of their former master, and continue the line of transmission. This is extremely obvious from not just Perspectives on Initiation, but it's scattered throughout all of his books. If you're really so obstinate I will dig out the relevant statements later on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 03:33:58 2022 No.21030013 >>21029773 >The initiation, in the terms he usually describes it, is a transmission of influence and supra-rational knowledge from master to initiate And from the initiates point of view what does this look like?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 03:43:24 2022 No.21030031 >>21030013 Reintegration into the source in active mode. In other words a change in state of the being, not just a change in consciousness as the other anon was implying (consciousness as we know it being only one limited type of state).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 03:48:48 2022 No.21030043 >>21030031 It's a permanent and active opening up of awareness to higher states, its the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 05:46:44 2022 No.21030310 >>21029046 You're actually retarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 07:04:17 2022 No.21030558 >>21030310 And you have poor reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 23 07:53:24 2022 No.21030687 >>21029178 yeah we sort of do.

Anonymous Fri Sep 23 08:44:25 2022 No.21030774

>>21029053
>>21028853
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salutius

This is the closest you'll get to an authentic druidic philosophical text, he was a Gallic pagan philosopher, a pythagorean-platonist, which according to other classical sources druids were basically pythagoreans. So in my view it is likely Salutius was familiar with both similar philosophies and likely influenced his works.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Sallust_On_the_Gods_and_the_World

Also just reading all the ancient Welsh and Irish literature will give you a flavour of bardic lore and some of their oral tradition.

Also the ancient systems of law in the celtic nations are thought to be pre-christian in origin which is interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Irish_law#Origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyfraith_Hywel#Origins

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