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Got any Christian, or even better Catholic, philosophers worth reading /lit/?

>> No.21011223

>>21011218
Catholicism is retarded. Don't you know about the Jesuits? Roman Catholic Empire? Templars? The Military Order of Christ? The Vatican? Switzerland? 12 bloodlines? Ah forget it. Baa baa. Back to your pen sheep nigger cattle

>> No.21011234

>>21011223
Whoa, did you copy paste that from reddit or something? Nevermind, don't care, peace.

>> No.21011254
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>>21011234
Typed it out just for your dogshit thread because I have a passion for idiots like you. Peace retard. Spiritual infant. Go read some jewish circumcision manuals and worship jewish egregores even though you're not even a semite and then wonder why your life is so shit. Spiritual baby.

>> No.21011293

>21011254
You're seething man. Chill out.

>> No.21011353
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>Typed it out just for your dogshit thread because I have a passion for idiots like you. Peace retard. Spiritual infant. Go read some jewish circumcision manuals and worship jewish egregores even though you're not even a semite and then wonder why your life is so shit. Spiritual baby.

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>>21011293
>>21011353
Spiritual newbs angry

>> No.21011362

>>21011358
this is what too much mark passio and no pussy does to a mf

>> No.21011364
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>>21011223
>Catholicism is retarded. Don't you know about the Jesuits? Roman Catholic Empire? Templars? The Military Order of Christ? The Vatican? Switzerland? 12 bloodlines? Ah forget it. Baa baa. Back to your pen sheep nigger cattle
Yes, and?

>> No.21011387

>>21011364
Not even an atheist, clearly I mentioned spirit several times illiterate.
>>21011362
I forgot who this guy was haha. I didn't need him on my spiritual journey but God bless you if you're projecting, he's right about quite a bit. God help you also if you're projecting I hope you get "pussy" a.k.a. the high value wife of your dreams

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>>21011358
>>21011387

>> No.21011680

>>21011218
You can’t religious and a philosopher at the same time, it’s a paradox by definition but low IQ religious retards don’t know anything about the history of philosophy
>inb4: bu-
No, Descartes, Kant, Newton did not follow organised religion and all came up with their own unique theological systems.

>> No.21011688

>>21011218
Marshal McLuhan, Jacques Meriteon, Lubac, and Belloc. I before McIntery who wrote Beyond Virtue is also Catholic.

>> No.21011694

>>21011680
>You can’t religious and a philosopher at the same time
Rennaissance definition of philosopher is wrong so after you get over philosophy as some type of atheist language game for the lonely and spiteful you just have lovely essays on what things actually are. Theologians are actually philosophers in a different sense.

>> No.21012092
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>>21011218
Read Ellul.

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>>21012092
Wrong image.

>> No.21012108

>>21011218
Alright, people are givign you dogshit OP, if you really want to know about your desert religion pantheon hey I was there too. Read Neville Goddard then learn Biblical Greek and Biblical Hebrew and it'll all make sense real quick. Ask any torah scholar about puns/wordplay they'd tell you all about it. It's all lost even in the KJV but newer bibles are even worse..

>> No.21012284

>>21011218
https://historyofphilosophy.net/later-antiquity/ancient-christianity
https://historyofphilosophy.net/series/medieval-philosophy
https://historyofphilosophy.net/series/byzantine-philosophy
https://historyofphilosophy.net/series/renaissance-reformation
It really depends on who or what you want to read about.

>> No.21012532

>>21011218
The Church Fathers, Saint Augustine of Hippo and Saint Thomas Aquinas.

>> No.21013224

>>21011694
>Rennaissance definition of philosopher is wrong so after you get over philosophy as some type of atheist language game for the lonely and spiteful you just have lovely essays on what things actually are.
The definition of philosopher hasn’t changed since the ancient ages. The only breaking point was in fact the Middle Ages where “theology” (not a real word or field) hacks appropriated the word.
By the way you write I can get your ilk and all the retardaded beliefs you hold which don’t exist irl. You think the Middle Ages were Christian utopia and the enlightenment were satanist/atheist/scientist conspiracy against your gay cringe trad ideals (which didn’t exist back then). You’re wrong, I’m right, and the worst thing is that you’re not even interesting.
Btw, Jesus never existed, he was a creation from apocalyptic Jews in the 2nd century based on multiple figures such as Yeshu ben Ananias. The parallels between Mark and Josephus leave no doubt regarding that

>> No.21013604

>>21013224
I'm nta, I'm just an onlooker, but super curious, how do you know that the jews forging Jesus' existence isn't the real forgery? What if they created that story to hide the real life of Yahshua? Just spitballing here. I'm genuinely curious what made you convinced that this is true.

>> No.21015496

>>21011218
Yes, our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.

>> No.21016032

>>21012532
Aquinas is overrated.

>> No.21016126

>>21011223
Hm I wonder who writes these posts?
>>21011358
Oh, of course, it's a satanic kabbalah worshipping freemason kek.

>> No.21016151

>>21011358
This is utter shit.

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>>21011218
catholicism is gay as fuck
>the trinity is really important guys, God is three people guys, why aren't you listening to me???
>Mary was just born perfect ok? it's called "immaculate conception" she didn't have to work for her virtue at all
>Mary was also assumed into heaven this is really important for the faith trust me, i just made it up.
the only thing worse is a protestant, they are a waste of each breath they take

read St. Thomas Aquinas he is cool

>> No.21016229

>>21011218
Catho here.
No. Just start with the Greeks and just leave philosophy to them. Don't even bother with krautoid """"""""""""""""""""""""philosophy""""""""""""""""""

>> No.21016338

>>21011218
The people in this thread are mentally reatarded, read Saint Agustine and also Saint Anselms ontolgical arguments for the existence of God.

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>>21012092
>>21012098
I've read Propaganda and Anarchy and Christianity and loved both.
>the Subversion of Christianity
>Pointing to the many contradictions between the Bible and the practice of the church, Jacques Ellul asserts in this provocative and stimulating book that what we today call Christianity is actually far removed from the revelation of God. Successive generations have reinterpreted Scripture and modeled it after their own cultures, thus moving society further from the truth of the original gospel. The church also perverted the gospel message, for instead of simply doing away with pagan practice and belief, it reconstituted the sacred, set up its own religious forms, and thus resacralized the world. Ellul develops several areas in which this perversion is most obvious, including the church's emphasis on moralism and its teaching in the political sphere. The heart of the problem, he says, is that we have not accepted the fact that Christianity is a scandal; we attempt to make it acceptable and easy--and thus pervert its true message.
Genuinely I think this guy is going to win me back into believing. I felt insane for years practicing and feeling a tremendous dissonance between what I was being told Christianity was supposed to be according to everyone and what I was actually reading from scripture and the early church fathers, and this guy perfectly elucidates all the things I thought couldn't be true because every priest I talked to explained everything away into unsatisfactory narratives.

>> No.21016729

>>21011218
Thomas more

>> No.21016754

>>21011234
Based response

>> No.21016759

Philosophy = the love of wisdom
Believing in made up shit = the opposite of wisdom