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Why didn't they teach me about this dude in any English class I had? Seems like he is literally the most influential American writer of all time?

>> No.20969712

Also some sort of proto-/pol/ shitposter:
>While in St. Elizabeths, Pound would often decline to talk to psychiatrists with names he deemed Jewish (he called psychiatrists "kikiatrists"),[369] and he apparently told Charles Olson: "I was a Zionist in Italy, but now I'm for pogroms, after what I've experienced in here (SLiz)."[370] He advised visitors to read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and he referred to any visitor he happened not to like as Jewish.

>> No.20969716

https://counter-currents.com/2019/10/remembering-ezra-pound-9/

https://counter-currents.com/2012/11/ezra-pound-2/

https://counter-currents.com/2014/08/ezra-pound-3/
(video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOmuHs5-rJE )

>> No.20969737

>>20969708
If you rely on schools to teach you anything you're absolutely ngmi.
Same with leftist retards who insist on schools teaching tranny and faggot ideology. If schools don't teach it, they think no one is going to learn it because to them, the idea of gaining knowledge on your own or teaching your children what you believe in is completely unthinkable. If the state doesn't do their work for them it's literally genocide in their eyes.
Normal people have the talk about birds and bees with their kids themselves and later in life, through simple conversation, they help their children find new things like for instance poets that none of the incompetent teachers at public schools have ever even heard of.

>> No.20969744

>>20969708
>Seems like he is literally the most influential American writer of all time?
Dude's the architect of Modernism so I'd say you're right.
The ABC of Reading is excellent.

>> No.20969745

>>20969712
sounds just like me except that i've never browsed /pol/

>> No.20969748

>>20969712
insanely based. his radio broadcasts were the original rightist podcasts

>> No.20969757

>>20969712
My dad is a huge Ezra Pound fan. He had a college professor, Professor Forrest, who apparently met him once and it was very funny, he tells it a lot
>college professor manages to arrange meeting with Ezra Pound
>goes to his door
>Pound opens it
>professor is all nervous
>“Oh uh, good morning. H-how are you Mr. Pound?”
>“Senile.”
>Pound lets him into his house, they sit in opposite facing armchairs
>professor asks him a few questions, Pound just sits there glowering at him with his arms crossed, saying nothing
>eventually he stops asking him questions, they’re just sitting across from each other in silence
>after a bit of this, the professor takes out a cigar and lights it
>“Forrest…”
>“Yes? What is it Mr. Pound?”
>“Your cigar smells like shit”
That was the only other thing he said to him during that meeting

>> No.20969775

>>20969712
fpbp, I mean it's really the reason.
Also Pound was right about Milton.

>> No.20969796

>>20969757
That's hilarious. Pound was such a curmudgeonly old bastard. We need contemporary poets of his disposition.

>> No.20969866

>>20969737
I mean I don't disagree, but its weird he isn't brought up at all despite his influence. Are they worried kids will want to learn more about him and become antisemitic or something? He seems like the type of multidimensional personality that might actually make kids interested in learning, but I guess his opinions are considered to controversial. Still, you would think he would be mentioned at least. I didn't even learn about him in my college literature class, and we went over Hemingway and T.S. Eliot both of whom he had enormous influence on.

>> No.20969886

>>20969708
He wrote about poetry incredibly well for somebody whose poetry is trash.

>> No.20969893

>>20969866
>I didn't even learn about him in my college literature class, and we went over Hemingway and T.S. Eliot both of whom he had enormous influence on.
I think the fascism and antisemitism are to blame. You can be the undisputed king but if you're le problematic you shall not be named. Pound seems to be one of those
>Are they worried kids will want to learn more about him and become antisemitic or something?
Yeah, I think that's it. He's dangerous oooooohhhh scary.

At any rate, I'm glad you found out about him. There are also some recordings of Pound reciting his poems available. Check those out too if you haven't yet and if you're interested. I think it's always quite rewarding to hear how a poet recites his own work

>> No.20969897

>>20969708
>>20969866
In my high school English class, Ezra Pound was mentioned when we were learning about the beat poets, all we were told was he was a minimalist and we read “in a station at the metro.” No mention was made of the Cantos, fascism, his time in an asylum, or anything else

>> No.20969900

>>20969893
https://youtu.be/mEADZ2PJ6iY

>> No.20969907

>>20969897
>his time in an asylum
Was that just post war jewish propaganda? I bet it was and they hospitalized him for nothing

>> No.20969910

>>20969900
Didn’t realize this had music added
https://youtu.be/xn6r2Nm0ZMo

>> No.20969935

>>20969907
He was declared not fit to stand trial by these doctors after World War II. They actually saved his life, he would have been hanged for treason like William Joyce if they hadn’t.
I don’t know if the doctors thought he was genuinely insane, or if they just didn’t want him killed, but he spent ten years in an asylum instead of being hanged in Nuremberg. It’s a good thing they did, because he was provided for in the hospital and his room had a typewriter, he basically just slept, ate, read, and wrote without any care. Wrote the Pusan Cantos during that time

>> No.20969986

>>20969935
>Pusan Cantos
Meant to write Pisan Cantos

>> No.20970005

>>20969708
Who?

>> No.20970026

>>20970005
The guy in the subject of the OP’s post, as well as with an accompanying photograph, along with a text post asking why he is not taught so much in school
Learn some things outside of school and you will not embarrass yourself like this anon

>> No.20970035

he was a nazi, a traitor and an awful lot of his work is fairly difficult. Not really highschool-tier stuff.
T. S. Elliot is much more suitable for high-school kids

>> No.20970067

>>20969935
How did he write poetry without access to https://www.rhymezone.com/ ? That's fucking next level fr.

>> No.20970081

My second year of high school the entire theme of the course (American Literature) was Ezra Pound. Not even the people he influenced, literally just Ezra Pound and a smattering of a few other books. Based Mr. Wagner. ABC of Reading is still one of my all time favorite books.

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20970133

>>20970081
>does an entire year of ezra pound
>his favorite book is pound's plebbiest book
Oh nononononono

>> No.20970222

>>20970133
Yes, I'm a pleb. Yes, The Cantos filtered me. No, I don't care and I still think he's great.

>> No.20970311

>>20970035
Eliot was an anti-semite with volkisch sentiments, also Pound wasn't a traitor you little weasel, you probably lionize a dozen "traitors" like Luxemburg and Lukacs but support creepy shit like the revenge-murder of William Joyce for daring to be on the wrong side in a brother war in which both sides had were simply standing their moral ground

>> No.20970332

>>20970311
He was a traitor to zionist america

>> No.20970340

Where to start with Pound. I read a small collection of all his poems, a couple of Cantos, but those seem too much

>> No.20970379
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20970379

I like Ezra Pound, Thomas Carlyle, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Martin Heidegger, and Gottlob Frege.

>> No.20970383

>>20970311
are you on your period?

>> No.20970385
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20970385

>>20970379
>every single one is an antisemite

>> No.20970407

>>20970385
That's almost all authors before 1945

>> No.20971174

>>20970379
Good taste anon

>> No.20971182

>>20970332
That's only because the Jews want for the same thing most eurosceptics want. There's only six degrees of separation between the two.

>> No.20971194

>>20970385
so a litmus test for functioning brain cells?

>> No.20971976 [DELETED] 

>>20970379
>Charles Olson
Uber based.

>> No.20971981

>>20970379
Uber based.

>> No.20972129

>>20969708
goys love and hate jews, simple as

>> No.20973398

>>20971182
What do you mean

>> No.20973399

>>20970340
ABC of Reading

>> No.20973513

>>20969708
Idk, but after he won that Bollingen award much kvetching followed and custodianship of the award was handed over to the jews at Yale.

>> No.20973516

>>20969712
rent free

>> No.20973521

he looks like a human bosmer

>> No.20973613

>>20973521
Who’s Bosmer?

>> No.20974271

>>20973513
Seriously?

>> No.20974275

>>20969712
>kikiatrists
kek

>> No.20974295

>>20969708
In Italy his name is anathema. We are not allowed to name him

>> No.20974303

>>20973398
Both want it bad for us. I don't get why this is so hard to understand

>> No.20974307

>>20974303
Europe will never be your zionist communist utopia

>> No.20974312

>>20974295
You are all pussy faggots. What about Papini?

>> No.20974338

>>20969708
Check out the interviews with Eustace Mullins he was esentially pounds protégé

>> No.20974371

>>20969712
>he referred to any visitor he happened not to like as Jewish
Literally me

>> No.20974392

>>20974295
Isn’t there a fascist group named after him? Casapound or something?

>> No.20974536

>>20970035
Shielding the youth from ideas is the most cowardly, short sighted, idiotic thing you can do.

>> No.20975930

>>20969708
I believe he said some unkind things towards the you know whose

>> No.20977362

>>20970035
You learn about Hitler in high school dude

>> No.20977373

>>20974536
Yes, because then you turn them into forbidden fruit they will actually look up, instead of blissfully ignoring like the rest of the stuff they learn at school.

>> No.20977388
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20977388

>>20974392
>poundhouse

>> No.20977408

>>20969708
>>20969737
>>20969866
I'm not sure if my college is exceptional but we studied pound quite a bit alongside eliot and the others. There was sort of a caveat made regarding his antisemitism and support of muss, but one professor of mine actually referred to his radio broadcasts as "jokes" and kind of waved it off.

>> No.20977469

>>20970133
ABC is great. So full of that fiery youthful energy that wants to take on the world.

>> No.20977728

I downloaded ABC of reading and I'm going to read it
Reading William Blake, Fearful Symmetry and now this, hopefully I will enjoy it

>> No.20978003

>>20977408
>I'm not sure if my college is exceptional but we studied pound quite a bit alongside eliot and the others.
What college would that be?

>> No.20978411
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20978411

>>20969708

>> No.20979175

>>20974271
Yes. Read the controversy section in
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollingen_Prize
Also you can listen to this Yale professor who mentions it during his lecture on Ezra.
>https://youtu.be/oYQ7dWVI_I8
Obviously neither points out the subtext of the transfer of the award from the Library of Congress to the Jewish stronghold that is called Yale but that is effectively what happened.

>> No.20979286

>>20969708
>Why didn't they teach me about this dude in any English class I had?
I don't know because they did in my class and other classes around muttistan.

>> No.20979414

>>20978411
holy based

>> No.20979477

>English on both sides
Thought he was eastern euro or something

>> No.20979597

>>20978411
Crazy how all the smartest people in the world keep coming to the same conclusion

>> No.20979940

>>20969708
>Said Herr Krupp (1842): guns are a >merchandise

>I approach them from the industrial end,

>I approach them from the technical side.

>1874 orders from Paris and Egypt…..

>orders from the Crimea,

>Order o Pietro Il Grande

>and a Command in the Legion of >Honour….

>500 to St Petersburg and 300 to >Napoleon Barbiche

>from Creusot. At Sadowa

>Austria had some Krupp cannon;

>Prussia had some Krupp cannon.

>“ the Emperor (‘68) is deeply in'erested in >yr. catalogue

>and in yr. services to humanity”

>(signed) Leboeuf

>who was a relative of Monsieur Schneider

>> No.20980110

We only read a few of his poems like In a Station of the Metro in high school, but we went way more in depth during my college lit courses. I don't remember if the fascism stuff was brought up during high school.

>> No.20980129

>>20979597
DAS RAYSIS

>> No.20980141

>>20980129
They always call it raciss, but never wrong.

>> No.20981726

my dumb ass thought ezra pound was a woman up until I saw this post. I now realize that I had been conflating him with Gertrude Stein for the past few years

>> No.20981738

>>20981726
Same

>> No.20981757

>>20969708
He's likely the most influential literary figure of the 20th century, but not for his writing. He was much more instrumental as an editor and promoter of others. Hemingway estimated that he only spent 1/5 of his working time actually writing his own work.

>>20969886
I wouldn't call his poetry trash, but I agree that his essays are better.

>> No.20981765

>>20981726
Name one(1) female Ezra

>> No.20981771

>>20981765
I don't know any other Ezras at all. But it certainly suggests femininity to me

>> No.20981982
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20981982

>>20981765
Ezra Miller

>> No.20982014

>>20981982
mentally ill men are not female

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20982122

>>20982014
Wrong.

>> No.20982302

>>20970311
>in which both sides had were simply standing their moral ground
I have no idea what events you are referring to, but even I can see that's a cope, and a hard one.

>> No.20982321

>>20979597
The conclusion is first and foremost visceral, they feel it, this rejection to the foreign. Their genius is in building these staircases that lead them where they want to go.
The most convincing argument I've ever heard was: "You feel it in your bones, don't you? You just don't like them."
That feeling should be respected. Maybe that's the thing about smart people, they've learned to trust their hunches.

>> No.20982509

>>20981771
There's even a Book of Ezra in the Bible.
Dumb angloid thinking any name ending in -a is feminine.
>tfw knew an English girl named Andrea (manly)

>> No.20982551

>>20979597
Anon, stop noticing things.

>> No.20982561

How do I get into Ezra Pound?
Which editions do I want?
Are there any that are pretty comprehensive that provide translations for all the Latin and Italian and explains the literary references?