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[Anonymous No.20968783]

>be Christopher Browning
>want to know how normal, ordinary citizens in Nazi Germany could commit brutal genocide
>compare to scientific experiments that study human behavior when under influence of authority (Stanford prison experiment, Milgram experiment, etc.)
>conclude that many of these soldiers were disgusted with the act of executing jews and were merely acting under self-preservation and not acts of passion. Only a few sadists enjoyed it. Many were actually from anti-Nazi regions but were conscripted into the war.
>enter Daniel (((Goldhagen)))
>"In his book Hitlery’s Willing Executioners, Daniel Goldhagen asserts that anti-Semitism “more or less governed the ideational life of civil society” in pre-Nazi Germany, and when the Germans “elected” [sic] Hitler to power, the “centrality of antisemitism in the Party’s worldview, program, and rhetoric . . . mirrored the sentiments of German culture. ”Because Hitler and the Germans were “of one mind” about the Jews, he had merely to “unshackle” or “unleash” their “pre-existing, pent-up” anti-Semitism to perpetrate the Holocaust."
>Browning ends up dedicating a whole chapter to defending himself

I wonder if Browning's opinion has changed on the subject?

[Anonymous No.20968793]

>>20968783
apologies for turning this thread into pol-lite but I just thought it was too hilarious not to share

>https://www.c-span.org/video/?315314-1/the-devil-dies

if you really want to see who is criticizing any narrative that isn't "everyone hates the jews" look no further.

[Anonymous No.20968881]

>>20968783
don't forget the additional facts
>most were older men unfit for front line duty
>drunkenness was encouraged to get compliance
The Boomer Battalion sounds pretty fun desu
>>20968793
>"everyone hates the jews"
I feel like a lot of Jews do that. Bari Weiss, for example, didn't have problem with progressives until they started calling Israel a racist, white colonist apartheid state.

[Anonymous No.20968893]

>>20968881
Jewish self hatred is a thing too, dont forget. Otto Weininger and Philip Roth come to mind

[Anonymous No.20968909]

>>20968783
>Because Hitler and the Germans were “of one mind” about the Jews, he had merely to “unshackle” or “unleash” their “pre-existing, pent-up” anti-Semitism to perpetrate the Holocaust.
What's wrong with this statement? I thought it was common knowledge. German antisemitism dates all the way back to Luther and even earlier medieval times and it got so bad after 1933 that Jews sought refuge in catholic fundamentalist shitholes like Poland because even they treated the Jews mildly compared to the Germans

[Anonymous No.20968912]

Also, I think the moderate functionalist approach to the holocaust makes sense

[Anonymous No.20968924]

>>20968783
Who wouldn't enjoy the experience of killing kikes? I'd immediately jump at that opportunity.

[Anonymous No.20969057]

>>20968783
The real question is how we can have historical records of 359 Jewish expulsions and large-scale persecutions by every group of people imaginable (Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, Persians, Germans, British, French, Armenians, Arabs, Christians, Muslims, even the fucking Mayas who kicked Jewish settlers out of their villages in the jungle after initially welcoming them with open arms) and yet the Jews can still get away with claiming that they did literally nothing wrong ever, and that the only reason for every single one of those anti-Jewish reactions was due to an entirely irrational inborn hatred of Jews.

By any measure of common sense, this explanation is patently absurd, so if you believe their narrative, you really only have two ways to explain it that make sense:

1. God made it so that the Goyim would always hate the Jews. Accepting this explanation forces you to accept the premise that their religion is either entirely the correct one or is at least based in large part on the Truth, and you should look into following the Noahide Laws so that you may become one of the 2800 Gentile slaves which are promised to every observant Jew in the World to Come.

2. You accept that anyone who seriously believes this narrative is mentally retarded to the point that they've been tricked their entire lives into believing something so completely bonkers that you can't put it into words without sounding ridiculous. As this likely includes yourself up to this point and most of your family, you should seek guidance from your intellectual superiors over at counter-currents.com, >>>/pol/ and other places.

[Anonymous No.20969161]

>>20968909
It's a significant statement for two reasons:
1) If Goldhagen didn't respond, the message to the average reader would have remained similar to Browning's conclusion: The average Nazi-Germany citizens weren't antisemitic but merely acting under antisemitic authority.
2) Goldhagen's response actually triggers an investigation by more curious readers. Why is Goldhagen so insistent on "proving" that the Nazi-Germany citizens were antisemitic? If it's true, wouldn't that instigate even more investigation into why that would be? That path doesn't exactly put the jewish population in a positive light. If it's false, doesn't that confirm the jewish stereotypes of victimization and deceit and, in a way, confirm Hitler's message?

[Anonymous No.20969168]

>>20968783
I find it very disingenous that no study of the holocaust mentions any of the other factors that contributed to the general negative attitude of the German people towards jews.

The stab in the hack legend had a real genesis in the Far-Left starting several armed and sustainable revolutions while the then German Empire was still fighting the lions share of combat in World War 1, these revolutions were largely (though not exclusively) led by jews, based on the arguements of jews, supported by the politics and philosophy of jews and eventually, where succesful, ruled over by jews. From the Sparticist League, Bavarian Socialist Republic and more. All over Greater Germany.

Following the War there was rampant inflation with people starving, there was people who has international connections, again typically jews, who would profit and gain from the hardships of others in this, charging truly evil rates for basic food stuffs thats native Germans must pay, or starve. There was also several multi-million mark scandals that were exclusively jewish, the Barmat scandal and the Sklarek scandal, each was devastating and openly showed war profitteering.

There was also the general breakdown of sexual manners, from open child prostitution, every manner of fetish, kink ans behavior. This was done via chemists and doctors of which many were Jewish, by simply telling the doctot how long you had been sick, in years, would match to what age you wanted your prostitute, along with codes for specific for specific requirements. This being partly why the Nazis expelled jews from the industry well before other actions began. The was entire jargon for selling sex from widowed house wifes reluctant to do it but needing to feed their children to work sectetaries being pimped out by their jewish bosses.

It angers me that this is never mentioned, you only find out by reading other books that try to celebrate it.

[Anonymous No.20969177]

>>20968783
I have no idea, but I'm sure most (if not all) people have a built in "tribalist mindset" and a repressed violent self.

[Anonymous No.20969178]

>>20968881
Good points as well. At the end of the day, I have no issues with any groups. You just get tired of the whining and the victimhood Olympics between all of the special interest groups. It's like the pampered feminists who are constantly complaining about oppression yet get preferential treatment with occupational placement and academia.

[Anonymous No.20969182]

>>20968893
Bobby Fischer

[Anonymous No.20969197]

>>20969168
Many people only learn this on 4chan

[Anonymous No.20969207]

>>20969168
History is written by the victors.

[Anonymous No.20969261]

>>20969168
>The stab in the hack legend had a real genesis
there were good Jews in WW1.
I think Hitler even gave some Jewish veterans protected status so they couldn't be fucked with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber
>>20969178
>At the end of the day, I have no issues with any groups
I do but I'm a white man and not a black, gay, or woman so I'll go ahead and forge my own path in life.

[Anonymous No.20969309]

>>20969261
>there were good Jews in WW1.
Sure there were, that does nothing for the overwhelming number who are bad jews. Jews were underrepresented in combat, but over represented in marxist-agitation. The few good does not at all make it harder to condemn the whole.

I suspect you are jewish.

[Anonymous No.20969483]

>>20969261
>there were good Jews in WW1
There will always be an outlier in the crowd but that does not detract from the irreparable damage they caused Germany, or the world for that matter.

The further you delve into socialist history and communist revolutions, academia, journalism, media, the arts, humanities subjects etc. the more you find an overwhelming Jewish presence, which dominates most other demographics. They forced themselves into these fields and set up shop freely and weaponised it against all else.

Correlate this to the propaganda being spewed forth daily and to the problems in the world currently. It all links back to this specific group of people, who will tirelessly play the victim card and try to vilify anyone who speaks out against them or their tribe.

The outliers to the tribe aren't enough to rectify the collective mindset or goals of their kin, nor are they enough to erase their sins. It's tiresome, they are tiresome.

On that note, I think I left my oven on.

[Anonymous No.20969666]

>>20968783
>>conclude that many of these soldiers were disgusted with the act of executing jews and were merely acting under self-preservation and not acts of passion.
This isn't accurate, what Browning described was more complicated. An amalgamation of social pressure and nationalism. He focused on these ragtag police battalions made up of those too weak to fight on the front. His point was that these were not party dogmatists, though they certainly believed in national socialism, and that anybody could be compelled to do those things. There wasn't any fear of being executed on the part of the soldiers at all, their officers gave them ample opportunity to refrain from carrying out the executions. But they still did it, however, they'd have to rotate men out because they'd often grow too distraught over what they were doing despite willingly doing it. It was total cognitive dissonance and was the result of a combination of perceived peer pressure and expectations of duty common to the time. These guys were ordinary men, and if anyone living today was in that situation they would've done the same thing.

The key point isn't that these people were compelled, they committed the executions willingly despite clearly not wanting to. The only exception were times Browning talked about certain groups of conscripts that went out on "jew-hunts," gleefully.

Iirc the only cartoonishly evil and anti-semitic person he mentions was an SS officer who brought his wife to watch the executions, however it is important to note that he didn't actually kill anyone himself.

It's a fascinating book

[Anonymous No.20969675]

>>20969483
>On that note, I think I left my oven on.

[Anonymous No.20969677]

>>20969666
Have you read Soldaten (Welzer/Neitzel)? You'd probably like it as well, very similar and primary source based

[Anonymous No.20969687]

I think that the jew is right. Hitler moved the German people quite well. He inspired them to do many things.

[Anonymous No.20969759]

>>20968783
>want to know how normal, ordinary citizens in Nazi Germany could commit brutal genocide
So he's never met a Jew got it.

[Anonymous No.20969783]

>>20969677
I havnt, but will check it out. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.20969801]

>>20968893
Eh, they don't really hate themselves, they just want to feel special and "unlike the other jews". Thinking, or feeling like that you must necessarily be the center of the universe is a pretty jewish thing, ironically.

[Anonymous No.20969851]

>>20968909
>Jews sought refuge in catholic fundamentalist shitholes like Poland because even they treated the Jews mildly compared to the Germans

The weirdest thing is that sometimes it feels like they are more angry at the people who at least tried to save some of them for not saving enough or not preventing things from happening at all than they are angry at the actual perpetrators. Like, compare how much seethe poland or hungary generates among them in contrast to, say, romania whose jewish population got wiped out almost completely, but you never really hear them frothing at the mouth at the mention of romania and the romanian people, in contrast to poland or hungary.

[Anonymous No.20969881]

>>20968909
>that Jews sought refuge in catholic fundamentalist shitholes like Poland because even they treated the Jews mildly compared to the Germans

No, this is because Poland had the highest number of jews per capita in Europe. Outside of the judeo-bolshevism of the Soviet Union, there was no other place where jews has as much localized power. That is why all the camps were located in Poland, the area of Europe most infected by the jews.

[Anonymous No.20970373]

>>20969168
I searched for one of your claims (the one regarding doctors prescribing prostitutes) and I don't see a single source anywhere that backs this up. I'm welcome to seeing one though

[Anonymous No.20970381]

>>20969881
You're correct on the number of Jews per capita but that didn't really translate into political power as most Jews kept to themselves and ran small businesses instead of seeking out government positions. The government itself was fiercely antisemitic and Lipski, Polish ambassador in Berlin, told Hitler that should he successfully expell all European Jewry to Madagascar they would erect a monument in Warsaw to honor him. Overall the Jews wielded far greater power in countries like the United Kingdom despite their smaller per capita number

[Anonymous No.20970414]

>>20968893
Stanley Kubrick

[Anonymous No.20970419]

>>20970381
>You're correct on the number of Jews per capita but that didn't really translate into political power
Thats why i said local power, you kike. They lived together and had their own courts, laws and representitives.

>The government itself was fiercely antisemitic and Lipski
Yes, because of the sheer number of them that fled the Soviet Union and from leaving the Pale of Settlement when that was ended. Anti-semetism exists proportionately to the number and strength of jews in the area. Before Israel, the middle-east enjoyed cenuturies of relative calm with their jews.

>Overall the Jews wielded far greater power in countries like the United Kingdom despite their smaller per capita number
You conflate individually power jews, the English branch of the Rothchild banking family for instance with comprehensive jewish representatives in politics, like in Soviet Governments.

Your kikery is easily spotted.

[Anonymous No.20970428]

>>20970373
It is pharmacists that would prescribe children. A simple search of pharmacist weimar and prostitutes reveals plenty of sources.

[Anonymous No.20970434]

The books that the Germans burned were literal tranny pervert books written by Jewish "doctors".

[Anonymous No.20970440]

>>20968783
Actual people commiting and overseeing the murders like Ohlendorf literally said in their testemonies that anyone showing pleasure or symphaty during the killing was sent home. They only had to be indifferent. Then doing something you precieve to be a higher cause and are doing it on people you don't see as equal indifference becomes quite easy. That is also why they only let the most ideologically fanatical SS members do it. They genuinely saw it a just something that had to happen wether they liked it or not.

[Anonymous No.20970453]

>>20970440
Why would they send home a person who is enthusiastic about it?
Is the logic perhaps that such a person is unstable and could be a danger to his fellow soldiers as much as anyone else?

[Anonymous No.20970463]

>>20970434
Damn that is a good looking horse, he a white nationalist?

[Anonymous No.20970509]

>>20970463
It is a painting by the Serbian fascist painter Dragos Kalajic

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[Anonymous No.20970588]

>>20970453
Because he literally saw himself as being just a cog in the machine who shouldn't feel anything while doing these things. He was the perfect example of the ''I was just following orders'' memes. Most of them understood that killing was generally not a good thing to do and definately not something to be celebrated or to be enjoyed but had to be done. Some of them were also the ones who were promised land in the east to settle themselves so for them it was not just ideology but help in clearing out their future property. This was not the overall view though since Ohlendorf was only one gruppenfuhrer. Some might have allowed more violence just for convenience and in general they had a fair bit of freedom when it came to who and how they wanted to kill since the orders given to them were super vague.

[Anonymous No.20970683]

>>20969057
After Titus destroyed Jerusalem the Jews became a nomadic, wandering people, living in countries where they were minorities. In both the Christian and Islamic countries they were hated for religious reasons. Their higher IQ caused them to be rich and successful (as well as the Church’s ban on interest-lending leaving no Christian competition for Jewish moneylenders). This naturally led to a lot of jealousy which led to persecution and robbery. This isn’t some Jewish-created myth either. In the Middle Ages numerous Popes had to issue bulls ordering the Christians to stop persecuting jews, beating them up, robbing them, destroying their festivals, falsely accusing them of ridiculous crimes such as sacrificing babies and taking them to kangaroo courts in order to steal their money. It started with Pope Calixtus II who condemned these practices in the 1100s but many subsequent Popes such as Gregory X had to do the same.

This is not something “special to the Jews”. It would happen to any minority group with significant religious and cultural differences which is of a higher IQ and wealth level than the native population. Look at Zimbabwe for example. The white people who live there are resented by the native black population because they’re higher IQ and more wealthy and successful. So whites get persecuted by black Zimbabweans who are jealous of their achievements and so create this “oppression narrative” to not have to face their own inferiority. White Christians did the exact same things to European Jews because of the exact same psychological reasons.

[Anonymous No.20970692]

>>20968793
>the people most affected by anti semitism are the most likely to speak out against it
imagine my shock

>>20969168
>the corrupt actions of a few individuals justifies mass murder of completely unrelated people
very dumb

[Anonymous No.20970699]

>>20969309
Woody Allen doesn't belong here. Great director and his views on age of consent lines up with the typical 4channer

[Anonymous No.20970712]

>>20970683
Everything you said is a lie or half-truth. The only jews that have higher IQ are ones that were able to take advantage of the Germanic system, the Ashkenazi. Thay genius is only because of their Germanic admixture, no Shepardi, Mountain Jew, Hasidic or Beta Israel, or of the other jewish denominations amounted to anything more that biting the foreskins of screaming infants and subversion.

The jew owes its success to taking advantage of the German people, its system and heritage.

[Anonymous No.20970719]

>>20970699
He is literally a pedophile.

[Anonymous No.20970731]

>>20970719
okay but deny that he's a great filmmaker. you cant!

[Anonymous No.20970745]

>>20970731
No he is boring.
Stanley Kubrick was an actual great filmmaker (and he said that Hitler was right) and Eyes Wide Shut is the quintessential redpill movie.

[Anonymous No.20970751]

>>20970712

[Anonymous No.20970754]

>>20970731
I don't watch tv or cinema.

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[Anonymous No.20970811]

>>20970712
I’m only talking about Ashkenazi Jews here because I’m talking in the context of European Jews which are overwhelmingly Ashkenazi. The only Jews with a long history in Europe are the Ashkenazis. Therefore when we talk about Jewish persecution in Europe it makes no sense to talk about Sephardic Jews or any others.

Now the fact remains, that European Jews are of a higher IQ and have been much wealthier than European Christians for most of their history in Europe. Being a minority + following a different religion and culture to the native population + being higher IQ, more educated and wealthier is a recipe for disaster for any group. When this happens, the native population usually invents some “oppression narrative” to explain their inferior status and looks for ways to rob and persecute the minority population. This happens in countries like Zimbabwe and Africa, and even the US though of course blacks in the US are the minority not the other way around. This seems to be just a basic sociological fact, not something unique to the Jews as you claim.

In the case of the Jews both the peasants and the kings and nobles took advantage of them and robbed them regularly, just like blacks do to whites in Zimbabwe now. For example you can look up “Abraham of Bristol”, who was simply tortured by King John because he refused to give up all his money to the crown. The Nazis had similar motivations, for example in Himmler’s Posen speeches he talks about how robbing the Jews is ok because they’re not doing it to enrich themselves but rather the Nazi state.

However, if there’s a minority in a country who is actually LOWER IQ (such as the Muslims in Europe) but still religiously and culturally separated then the reaction of the native population isn’t a feeling of being “oppressed” or “plotted against”. It’s more, “these people are invading us and making our lives hell and committing crimes etc.”

The only solution I see to this is not to have these minority situations in the first place. States should be homogenous and we shouldn’t have mass migration or colonialism.

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[Anonymous No.20970826]

>>20970811
You are being dishonest.

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[Anonymous No.20970836]

>>20970811

[Anonymous No.20970863]

so is this board all just posting books that jordan peterson has referenced?

[Anonymous No.20970924]

>>20970863
Why are you freaks STILL seething about this milquetoast liberal

[Anonymous No.20970948]

>>20968783
Look at the state of the world.
The only thing that the germans did wrong was losing and the holohoax is obviously bullshit for anybody with two functional neurons.

The west was defeated and now the world is going to shit in a tsunami of degeneracy and racial abominations, all courtesy to jews.
The current state of the world does not only show that the national socialist movement was right, but even that they were compasionate compared to the rest of the subhumans who we share the human genus.
Just look at all the degenerate leftist celebrating minor kids castration, or all the leftists salivating at dead germans just because "MUHH THE UKRAINE", just look all the vicious blacks celebrating crimes against whites or asian, or asians on black and whites, or whatever.
Is not that germans or national socialist are saints, is simply that jews, sionists, freemasons, blacks, arabs, muslims, antifas, trannies, lgbtq faggots, social democrats, anglosaxons and all the rest of the chaff are simply worse.

[Anonymous No.20970951]

>>20970948
>at dead germans
*at dead russians

> that jews, sionists, freemasons, blacks, arabs, muslims, antifas, trannies, lgbtq faggots, social democrats, anglosaxons and all the rest of the chaff are simply worse.
Forgot NIGGERS

[Anonymous No.20971014]

>>20970948
>holohoax
You don't really believe the holocaust didn't happen? Come the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.20971024]

>>20969666
Great post, and very well written.When I read it for the first time I was actually quite astonished at the potentially crushing weight of social pressure and the things people will do when they feel they're in the "right".
I felt it was much more of a psychological investigation rather than a historical commentary.
History was there, but it was secondary to the ultimate conclusion which touched on a core feature of a shunned part of the human psyche.
The implications reach far beyond the killing fields of Poland and, arguably, span the length of human history down to the present.
It is probably one of my favourite non-fiction books.

[Anonymous No.20971060]

>there are countries where you can literally go to jail for denying the holocaust
>but you can deny the incarnation and ressurection of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and this is completely acceptable, even normal

[Anonymous No.20971062]

>>20971024
Agree 100x. It's like Browning took personally that sort of sophomoric idea of "how could anyone do this? Id never kill innocent people!" And decided to advance a very convincing argument that nobody is so moral and so principled that they won't do something horrific. It's frightening, and really makes the broader conspiracies about shit like 9/11 and anything in that vein more convincing.

[Anonymous No.20971074]

>>20970948
Germans brought this upon themselves by helping communists to come to power in Russia. Many did help, but Germany likely had highest contribution, with Britain being close second. Fall of Russian Empire started destruction of old world that eventually reduced Europe from one and only center of the world to state it is in today. They are in no position to complain.
>inb4 it aint me, it was secret invisible gigajews who had so much money they could just buy making things happen like life is video game
Opinion of illiterate /pol/tards with zero knowledge on history other than repeating what's written in 3.5 infographs with jpeg compression artifacts.

[Anonymous No.20971097]

>>20971074
>Germans brought this upon themselves
opinion discarded
literally tranny/jew/nigger logic
completely irrelevant to the point
the point is that the good guys lost and we got the worst shit governing earth
there is NO ARGUMENT that hold against that
so all the retards masturbating at the "defeated nazis" are mentally retarded or just coping
> ohhhh im a slave, but look, im gonna make masta happy insulting his enemies
WEAK

[Anonymous No.20971107]

>>20971074
>Germans brought this upon themselves by helping communists to come to power in Russia
>"Germans"
It was LITERALLY Jews.

[Anonymous No.20971111]

>>20969182
Yes, him too

[Anonymous No.20971117]

>>20971111
How come he didn't really look Jewish? He could pass as an Anglo or something.

[Anonymous No.20971121]

>>20971097
>the point is that the good guys lost
And question would be
"Lost against what?"
Let's pretend not to answer this, if one wants to stay TRVE ARYAN GVMER free of cognitive dissonance, because answer would be "against radical, obscurantist quasi-religious ideology that has no regard for human life and that they themselves brought to power by helping it to destroy European empire, physically wipe out its elite that was culturally close to Germans themselves and enslave its population to serve their malicious means".
You cannot analyze ww2 period separate from ww1 period, they are inseparably tied by causality, and this is causality that Germans set up for themselves during latter.

[Anonymous No.20971126]

>>20971121
>"Lost against what?"
Sheeps.
Tons of sheeps.
Tons of sheeps that now need to coexist with less evolved hominids that rape their daughters and wives, hunt them in the night like feral apes while evil agents of the system castrate their sons.
"We defeated the nazis" is COPE.
The worst scenario happened, the worst people won, you have nothing, every day we are in a worst position.
The rest is COPE.
So keep COPING while the world become shit.
Pussy.

[Anonymous No.20971150]

>>20971107
Jews what? Jews deployed extremely wide and deep intelligence network? Capitalized on internal instability of regime? Compromised Baltic fleet? All while not being allowed to even settle in capital and central areas of territory in question because of Pale of Settlement.
This is retarded misconception stemming from jews being widely employed as middlemen and enforcers after deed was done, which was natural due to their butthurt towards population and their general nature, but they couldn't have pulled off one of most sophisticated intelligence operations in human history, they were nothing compared to resources and abilities needed for that.
>But money
Let's have little thought experiment. You want to topple your government. I like your idea, so I send you one trillion dollars. Your next actions? Keep in mind that you stand out much less in your capital, than jew in imperial St. Petersburg.

[Anonymous No.20971157]

>>20970692
>>the corrupt actions of a few individuals justifies mass murder of completely unrelated people

A people is less than 0.2% of your entire population, yet are overwhelmingly represented in organizations that want to tear down your centuries of tradition, culture and history and build something new.

It truly is a mystery why they are hated.

>>20970811
I’m only talking about Ashkenazi Jews here because I’m talking in the context of European Jews which are overwhelmingly Ashkenazi. The only Jews with a long history in Europe are the Ashkenazi

Bullshit, the Sephardic jews have been in the Iberian peninsula just as long, some speculate longer. Galacian Jews have been in Ukraine for centuries and the Litvaks, Lithuanian Jews are the single longest inhabited group in Europe.

Stop lying, kike.

>, that European Jews are of a higher IQ and have been much wealthier than European Christians for most of their history in Europe.
Again, only one branch, that of German admixture has higher IQ, no other jew in the world has contributed anything to the advancement of humanity. It is only those who piggy-backed on the race, Germanic, who have contributed more than any other people to the understanding of the world.

You can not help your kikery.

>Being a minority + following a different religion and culture to the native population + being higher IQ
This explains Asians, Japanese, exactly. Yet they suffer no ill will from Europeans and white Americans. Why is this? Because they do not subvert, infect, destroy and profit of the misery of the host nation they inhabit?

You are thrice named a kike.

[Anonymous No.20971193]

>>20971126
Thanks but I am now content with you knowing what you did Hans, and therefore why you enjoy such karma.
If you aren't Hans but pure 1/1024 Bavarian phenotype then I'm sorry but outcome of WW2 wouldn't have changed what's going on in US that much, so you shouldn't even get agitated over that, it would have happened anyway.

[Anonymous No.20971218]

>>20971193
Karma exist and that's why the "winners" of WW2 are getting their sons dicks chopped.
That's also why jews have every fucking genetic illness in the list.
Cursed blood of demons.
Those who consorted with demons now have to see their daughters raped and their sons castrated.
The jews that feel all powerfull all vivctorious see their degenerate seed implode due to their acursed blood.
The rest of the animals of thise world, asians, blacks, arabs, all cherfull of the white demise are literally killing themselves like animals.
Just look at how they live. DISGRACEFULL.
WE are HUMANITY.
HUMANITY DIE WITH US.

[Anonymous No.20971332]

>>20971193
I suspect both of you are false flag actors.

[Anonymous No.20971423]

Wouldn't it be wild to find out that the majority of Jewish expulsions and antisemitic tracts were fabricated to perpetuate the myth of a chosen people oppressed throughout history in order to give their race a protected status and prevent the majority of society from acting against them in any tangible fashion

[Anonymous No.20971439]

>>20971423
More likely they were the result of repeated actions that repulsed, offended or hurt the host nation they were living off.

[Anonymous No.20971458]

>>20971117
Not all Jews look the same despite /pol/ thinking they do

[Anonymous No.20971460]

>>20971439
That's assuming you trust written history to not have been subverted by Jews
How much of academia is in their grasp? How much of what we consider hard historic fact is just reiterating and restating what has been said by prior academics?
Do you believe in the efficacy of the vax too?

[Anonymous No.20971497]

>>20971460
You can not be this stupid.

Every single teaching institution in the Occident agrees with the narrative that the jewish people have done nothing to deserve the horrific treatment they have endured since their inception of a nomadic people. To even suggest that they it is even partly the result of their own collective actions is to ruin any career or professional achievement you have.

The idea that anti-antisemitism exists in a vacuum with no actions preceding it beyond theological prejudice is false. Their actions cause the resulting hate and violence inflicted against them and has done since the beginning of their wandering.

[Anonymous No.20971538]

>>20971497
I'm saying it's jewish lies all the way down, you illiterate kike enabler, specifically to engender the attitude that you describe as pervading academia
I mean, surely they haven't lied about something and gotten it accepted as hard fact before, right? I suppose I'm asking too much to expect a fashwave loser to think any deeper than his pudding cups though

[Anonymous No.20971613]

>>20971458
No, the goblins have to blend in somehow. It's easier to subvert and control when you're a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Anonymous No.20972317]

>>20969851
>romania whose jewish population got wiped out almost completely,
That's false. Barely any Romanian jews from Moldavia and Wallachia got killed after the pogroms of 1940, which were brutal but relatively low-scale. One of Antonescu's childhood friends was jewish and one of the leaders of the Romanian jewish communities and he personally petitioned Antonescu multiple times to prevent the slaughter of Jews in Romania, with success.
They were still discriminated against and were the lowest in the social hierarchy (which went Romanians> other Orthodox minorities > Germans > other catholics and protestants > Hungarians and Gypsies > Jews).
Romanians however went berserk in Bessarabia and Transnistria, blaming Jews in those regions for alligning themselves with the USSR, serving as fifth columnists, commiting terrorist acts against the Romanian government and army and commiting crimes and war crimes against the Romanian population, blaming the jews for attempting to colonise Romanian land and participating in deportations of Romanians to the Siberian gulags.
There are official reports of armed jews attacking medical convoys and gouging the eyes of the wounded soldiers being transported to hospitals, for example.
The Romanians killed a shitton of jews in Bessarabia and Transnistria, which is why after the war the Soviets imposed a troika government on Romania consisting of two jews (one of which was a woman) and a russian, who ended up killing over half a million Romanians in purges, including women who often got the worst fates as a result of orders from the jewish woman in charge (Ana Pauker), which is one of the vilest people in history.

[Anonymous No.20972329]

>>20968783
That's a vastly inadequate summary of reserve police battalion studies and their role in understanding mass racialism in Germany.

The fact that "partisan hunting" was considered desirable leisure compared to partisan hunting by Heer and SD troops like reserve police battalions, EVEN WHEN NON PARTICIPATION WAS UNPUNISHED, etc.

sure, just misrepresent Browning online. It isn't like other people here have read him.

[Anonymous No.20972668]

>>20968783
Goldhagen is a total disaster, he was disassembled and immolated by Finkelstein: not surprising since his "work" is just Jewish racist hysteria about evil bloodthirty goyim. I am honestly surprised to see anyone in 2022 talking about Goldhagen.

[Anonymous No.20972675]

>>20968909
This is a blisteringly ignorant post. This person probably knows enough history to understand what's wrong here but is deliberately seeking replies.

[Anonymous No.20972848]

>>20971157
Clearly you know nothing about this issue. Eastern European Jews are in fact Ashkenazi Jews. If you look at alternative theories of Ashkenazi ethnogenesis, some people say they actually emerged from the Turkic Khazar empire near Ukraine. Arthur Koestler makes a case for this in his book The Thirteenth Tribe. But even if you accept the mainstream history that Ashkenazis emigrated into South and Central Europe and then spread out from there, Lithuanian Jews and Russian Jews were still Ashkenazis who emigrated from Central Europe towards the east. It is pointless to talk about non-Ashkenazi Jews in Europe when discussing this question because 99% of them were Ashkenazis for most of their history in Europe, or at least descended from Ashkenazi stock.

There’s no point debating this further with you because this issue is clearly a religious commitment for you, as evidenced by your insistence that I’m a Jew (equivalent to “demon” in your religious system), even though I am a blonde-haired, green-eyed Catholic descended from Baltic Lithuanians and Poles. I would be happy if I found out I had Jewish blood, it being the race which has arguably contributed more to civilisation, science, literature, art, and philosophy than any other, but unfortunately I don’t think I do.

[Anonymous No.20972867]

>>20970546
>>20970554
>>20970434
Iv seen this shading style a bunch in yugoslav children's books and propaganda stuff, really neat

[Anonymous No.20972955]

>>20970428
You could at least try to dig up a legitimate source yourself, nazi.

All of the sources mentioning this are works by shitty journalists without any historical expertise. Even female prostitution was criminalised until 1927. There was no such thing as a semi-open pharmacy system for prostitution of minors.

Stick to your propaganda comics.

[Anonymous No.20973060]

>>20972848
>If you look at alternative theories of Ashkenazi ethnogenesis, some people say they actually emerged from the Turkic Khazar empire near Ukraine.
No. All bullshit, kike. The ancestry of the jews is the most explored geneology to date. We know exactly how they came to be in their respective situations and for how long. Every major group has has been sequenced because for some reason Israel, despite not being an ethnostate, wants to check that the people they let in are indeed decendants of Abraham.

>Lithuanian Jews and Russian Jews were still Ashkenazis who emigrated from Central Europe towards the east. It is pointless to talk about non-Ashkenazi Jews in Europe when discussing this question because 99% of them were Ashkenazis for most of their history in Europe, or at least descended from Ashkenazi stock.
Yet they have never amounted to anything beyond the typical jewish behavior. They are absent the Germanic admixture that gave the Ashkenazi their abilities to contribute something. Lithuania and Russian jews ard the same backwards infant abusers you find in Israel.

>There’s no point debating this further with you because this issue is clearly a religious commitment for you, as evidenced by your insistence that I’m a Jew
I am agnostic and have contempt for all three Abrahamic creeds, i am however very racist.

>I am a blonde-haired, green-eyed Catholic descended from Baltic Lithuanians and Poles. I would be happy if I found out I had Jewish blood, it being the race which has arguably contributed more to civilisation, science, literature, art, and philosophy than any other, but unfortunately I don’t think I do.
Jewish Internet Defense Force cope reply #3. You are a lying kike and it is exactly this kind of vile lies and slander that evokes such anger at youe kind.

[Anonymous No.20973123]

>>20972848
>Jewish blood, it being the race which has arguably contributed more to civilisation, science, literature, art, and philosophy than any other, but unfortunately I don’t think I do.
This is not true desu. Not even close.

[Anonymous No.20973161]

>>20972329
My apologies for not constructing a thesis paper on a Japanese paper mache dildo replica image board. I'll do better next time kind internet stranger.

[Anonymous No.20973162]

>>20973060
>Yet they have never amounted to anything beyond the typical jewish behavior.
Again, Eastern European Jews are Ashkenazi just as central European Jews. Almost all European Jews are Ashkenazi. Being a people without a homeland, they travelled all throughout Europe and set up communities everywhere.
Also there are many examples of Eastern European Jews who did in fact "amount to something". Richard Feynman is just one example off the top of my head.
>Germanic admixture that gave the Ashkenazi their abilities to contribute something
And yet the Ashkenazis outshone the Germans xD

[Anonymous No.20973204]

>>20973162
This is just factually wrong, Ashkenazi is settled on the Rhine river at the turning of the first millenium. The jews of the Cacausus, Georgia and those from further east predate the Asheknazi arrival by over 500 years. The Ashkenazi are decendant from them, however the Asheknazi are the most dominant demographic, as said because they mixed with the Germanic admixture, took advantage of the German systems and therefore the German people. For every one Ashkenazi there are one hundred native historical Germans who achieved greater. Almost every one, from Goethe to Wagner despised the jew and his kikery.

That is a sentiment that is shown all over the world. The greatest minds of all nations, of all time, the best, the brightest, the wisest, the most educated, the genius, the creative, the pious, the most industrious all, from every nation on the planet, that has ever been, all warned us not to permit the jew to roam freely.

Why?

[Anonymous No.20973243]

>>20973204
Keep saying it’s wrong all you want but a simple google search will tell you that Russian Jews and Eastern European Jews were Ashkenazi overwhelmingly and spoke Yiddish xD

[Anonymous No.20973253]

>>20969168
I bet that guy votes Democrat

[Anonymous No.20973334]

>>20973253
>Fascism is left cos muh gubmint
>Left means less freedoms
>Right means more freedoms
>Ben Shapiro said so
>Must agree with all the things on my side
>Must reject all things other side says
>Both sides are bought and owned by different industries

[Anonymous No.20973339]

>>20970509
Based

[Anonymous No.20973345]

>>20973253
>rich white man
>voting anything but conservative

[Anonymous No.20973367]

>>20973345
>Native European or a clear decendant of Europe abroad
>wanting anything but National-Socialism

[Anonymous No.20973480]

>>20973334
Fascism is a revolutionary left wing ideology. You can trace its intellectual origins to Marx and further back to the French Revolution. It’s true Fascists don’t value equality BETWEEN races, but they do value equality within the race. Its only due to a peculiar set of historical circumstances in the West that white nationalism is broadly considered right-wing. But any other sort of nationalism — black nationalism, Arab nationalism, Latino nationalism — are all considered left-wing because nationalism at its core is left wing. Libertarianism is right-wing because it doesn’t value equality.

[Anonymous No.20973490]

>>20973480
Wrong desu anon. Libertarianism is left wing.
Right wing is monarchy and traditionalism.

[Anonymous No.20973497]

>>20973490
Monarchism is also right wing because it doesn’t value equality. Left wing = values equality highly, right wing = doesn’t value equality at all/very little.

[Anonymous No.20973505]

>>20968783
Despite the cookie factory memes, it is possible for a small group of men with machine guns to murder a large number of captured civilians in a very short time frame with little effort. I bet they had dedicated squads with the most cold-hearted picked out. Just look at dirlewanger division.

[Anonymous No.20973511]

>>20973505
ALSO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_tossing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_eagle
Don't underestimate 'comically evil.'

[Anonymous No.20973512]

>>20973505
Yeah, the idea that humanity is too peaceful and loving to do such things is bullshit. Look at all the cartel torture videos online. Humanity is evil.

[Anonymous No.20973519]

>>20973512
Just humans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7WGIH35JBE

[Anonymous No.20973555]

>>20973519
Yeah but nonhuman animals don't have reasoning faculties so they can't be held accountable, at least not as much. If you're a human being then presumably you can follow Plato's arguments which establish the fundamental unity of all things, from which you can conclude that Love and compassion is necessary etc.. Humans have even had great religious figures such as Buddha and Jesus which have told them these things, but they refuse to listen. So humans are the most evil.

[Anonymous No.20973695]

>>20973480
>they do value equality within the race
No, they don't. They are big on heiarchy, the complete refutation of equality and egalitarianisn. Libertarians, like liberals, want equality of opportunity. Their intellectual origins grew from the left, while Fascism was a refutation of Marxism.

Libertarians are worse than Socialists

[Anonymous No.20974257]

>>20973695
based

[Anonymous No.20974311]

>>20973695
Lol no why do you think all the Fascists call themselves socialists and were staunchly anti-capitalist. They’re just another sect of Marxism.

[Anonymous No.20974489]

>>20974311
By your retarded, backwards logic trans woman are woman because they have the word women in their name.

They were staunchly against the global financial system, which again is in direct conflict with Marxism, you can not be this stupid.

[Anonymous No.20974548]

>>20974489
based

[Anonymous No.20974779]

>>20973161
You could, you know, not grossly misrepresent a major widely read text in public like the cunt you are. Please livestream your suicide.

[Anonymous No.20974803]

>>20974779
>Please livestream your suicide.
Kek

[Anonymous No.20974875]

>>20973695
>Fascism was a refutation of Marxism
How so?

[Anonymous No.20974953]

>>20974875
>Marxism
>Class conflict is the root of all societal ill
>Natural hierarchies should be dismantled
>The concept of a Nation is based on class conflict
>Private property allows for an unfair/unjust society
>The abolition of all distinctions is good
>We are all brothers of the world
>Promises utopia and less work and a life of leisure
>Believes humanity is above nature and can be shaped like clay and can be in the image they wish

>Fascism
>Class is a natural hierarchy, wherein loyalty must flow up and down
>Natural hierarchies form naturally wherever you gather people
>The concept of a State/Nation is the collective expression of a ethnic group
>Private property allows for greater responsibility
>Predatory businesses damage the people and therefore the nation
>The abolition of all distinctions is terrible, we are unique and must protect our differences
>Against the idea of global world government
>Promises hardship, effort and the need to engage in the struggle
>Believes humanity is an animal and is subject to biological processes like evolution that shape them.

There are some caveats, like Fascists are for private property, the farmer can pass it on to his son upon his death. But, should the son fail to deliver any resource from the land entrusted with him or worked against the interests of the people, he will be replaced with a worthwhile individual who would assume sole responsibility for the farm and would then pass it on to his son.

[Anonymous No.20974985]

>>20969851
If everyone dies, who's left to get mad?

[Anonymous No.20975004]

>>20969851
Hungary was on Germany's side.

[Anonymous No.20975027]

>>20974953
Thank you, very interesting indeed.

>Promises hardship, effort and the need to engage in the struggle
This just feels like the right approach, intuitively. They say that lifting weights and physical exercise makes your more right wing, probably because it bestows some understanding of the primordial truth and natural hierarchies on you. We are all biological creatures, the mechanisms of hormesis and hypertrophy are clearly observable in ourselves. Why would a political expression of the biological reality fail rather than lead to the same result that is increased growth and resilience? Greatness never arises out of sloth.

[Anonymous No.20975049]

>>20975027
It was found that for people who lean somewhat towards left wing views, if they get a testosterone boost, they become more right wing.

[Anonymous No.20975051]

>>20971538
>six million myth
There were a shitload of Jews in Russia during the civil war, and the whites were infamously anti-semetic, what's the problem here?

[Anonymous No.20975070]

>>20975027
>Thank you, very interesting indeed
Your welcome, pal. You are right in what you say, I hope it encourages you to read more in to Fascism and National-Socialism.

>>20975049
I've read that too, despite being a Fascism I don't think it to be true. You've had all types on all sides of the political spectrum, the stereotype is however funny.

[Anonymous No.20975088]

>>20973123
Lmao need more training Moshe

[Anonymous No.20975147]

>>20975070
The problem I have with fascism is that it doesn't seem like a coherent ideology, at least nobody ever put it on paper in a concise and logical manner.

[Anonymous No.20975150]

>>20975147
Yeah, you've never read a Fascist author., you just listen to what others say about it. You can start with Giovanni Gentile and go from there.

[Anonymous No.20975164]

>>20968783

Anti-Nazism and Antisemitism aren't necessarily diametrically opposed. You can anti-Nazi and for reasons completely unrelated to Jews and still be a fervent antisemite.

[Anonymous No.20975186]

>>20975150
>Gentile
>Hegelian
Nope, not reading that.

[Anonymous No.20975214]

>>20971538
I don't believe the holocaust was a lie, I fully believe it happened. My question is what actions of the victims led to an entire nation, and every nation that has housed them, to turn so violently on them and drive them out?

>>20975147
You're viewing it as an ideology, instead of a world-concept, based on realpolitik. There are underlying principles that govern the movement but there is no political ideology that states we can not do it. Only firm principles that the native people that comprise the nation must be strengthened, not weakened by any action.

>>20975150
Don't read Gentile, it's high-minded meta stuff of no use to anybody. Read Mein Kampf, For My Legionnaires, National Socialism: A Biological World View and Kurt Eggers, SS Warior-Poet. These are far easier to read, the last one I'm only beginning but it is enjoyable and uplifting.