/lit/ - Literature

>mentions accelerationism
>'who is writing about it'
dick land
how do you even mention accelerationism without knowing about dick land
society IS collapsing, but ai will take over soon (2 more weeks landsisters)

>read fanged nuomena
>its schizo gibberish, no way you can understand anything in it, cool aesthetics tho
>lit anons tell me to start with kant's critique of pure reason, proceed to kneecha to dolce&gabana from there on
>one of the first things kant writes in pure reason is what is noumena
>mfw all the dick land texts start making perfect sense
>also read a bunch of burroughs
>now it all makes even more sense, language is a virus, lemurian time wars, IT ALL FUCKING STARTS MAKING SENSE

>>20917982
>Who is writing about it?
Does adding this to the last sentence of what is clearly a >>>/pol/ thread make this about literature?

Go read Nick Land and promptly kill yourself for shitting up the board with inane partisan tripe.

>>20918116
Societal collapse is not a good thing. Accelerationalists are retarded.

>mentions accelerationism
>'who is writing about it'
dick land
how do you even mention accelerationism without knowing about dick land
society IS collapsing, but ai will take over soon (2 more weeks landsisters)

>read fanged nuomena
>its schizo gibberish, no way you can understand anything in it, cool aesthetics tho
>lit anons tell me to start with kant's critique of pure reason, proceed to kneecha to dolce&gabana from there on
>one of the first things kant writes in pure reason is what is noumena
>mfw all the dick land texts start making perfect sense
>also read a bunch of burroughs
>now it all makes even more sense, language is a virus, lemurian time wars, IT ALL FUCKING STARTS MAKING SENSE

>>20918143
>Nick Land
He's fucking retarded. I meant who's writing about how to stop retards like him.

>>20918145
its like moralizing about gravity
>b-but its oppressing me, noooooo
doesnt matter
read nick 'cinematic 9mm automatic' land

>>20918160
>I meant who's writing about how to stop retards like him.
They stop themselves because anything they say is a complete non-issue. Dead German philosophers still cause more trouble than Nick ever will. If you're looking for books on anti-accelerationism, consider google or one of the 20 other "Recommend me something" threads that already exist.

>>20918166
>its like moralizing about gravity
>>b-but its oppressing me, noooooo
Yeah, but you know what this train of thought leads to? Communism.

>>20918177
>anti-accelerationism
It doesn't exist. What's the real terminology?

>>20917982
A thread died for this.

>>20918187
Real terminology to describe an anti-accelerationist = “not a virgin”.

You can just immediately assume all accelerationists are virgins (as it always is confirmed to be) because only someone so pathetic yet so hateful gleefully harbor murder and rape fantasies for so long (likely influenced by their virginity + loneliness)

accelerationism doesn't exist. It only serves to promote corporate oligarchies, the only other discernable trait is unrelenting progress with no regard for the individual.

>>20918218
>progress with no regard for the individual
That's Christianity.

>>20918195
It's both the male and female losers, also known as SJWs, that will bring society down. It's these hyper-Christians bottom feeders, they threaten us all. They've already destroyed our high culture.

>>20918218
>corporate oligarchies
They're mistaken. It's not the other strong that are a threat to the strong but the weak.

Nietzsche understood this.

>>20918187
>What's the real terminology?
Sane, functional, normal, etc.

>>20918356
The problem is that they're now a minority. The left and right are both out of their minds. Why? Because they're both Christian. The religion needs to be destroyed from the root.

We have nukes, that's enough to stop wars. Christianity has no further use. Secularism needs to be reformed and cleansed from all Christian morality.

Purge the cancer from all institutions.

Contemporary books and philosophers for this?

>>20918780
Everything you have. I need to make sense of this.

>>20918145
You sound like a giant fucking faggot, dont forget your hormones kiddo.

>>20918260
no? its not?

>>20918388
fedora tip

>>20918897
>>20918900
>>20918904
Christianity celebrates mediocrity. It's the reason why the blackest fattest black woman is on the cover of a magazine.

>people who never read fanged nuomena seething at it for no good reason
No one is "doing an accelerationism" as an individual. It is just something that happens in capitalism.
This is like seething at Newton for noticing gravity. I dont understand this thread.

>Christianity is why everything is gay now, not the explicitly pro democratic, proto-socialist (Babeuf) anti Christian Enlightenment

Wow it’s so crazy how redditors keep coming to this conclusion….

>>20917982
Already solved by Hegel / Joyce / Teletubbies
https://youtu.be/Slv5g4VveUE

>>20919013
Incels wishfully fantasizing about violent apocalyptic race wars theorized by bloggers because they think in the chaos they’ll be able to rape women without being executed is not the same as Issac Newton’s theory of gravity I assure you

>>20918375
>The problem is that they're now a minority
No they're not. Get off the internet you shut-in.

>>20919049
>implying implications
You sound schizophrenic, anon. These incel rapists, are they in the room with you now?
There is like a 100 people on the entire planet who read fanged nuomena.

I dont get these asspulls of yours, such as race wars, violence, rape etc. The text clearly says everyone in this future will be a stim addicted latino chinese prostitute that also works as a hacker. You completely confused what you are talking about. Society will not collapse violently. You will probably have the time of your life as the AI is taking over. You are not supposed to notice it.

>>20918924
no? it doesnt?

Accelerationism is retarded. Nick Land is just a slightly more insightful and much more autistic contemporary Ayn Rand and his ideas are twisted and evil and retarded for no apparent reason. We live in the Kali Yuga, the literal end times, and that's it. No need to fucking make it worse

>>20919013
>nuomena
It doesn't exist.

>>20919106
>Accelerationism
It's happening and it's not the one side that's making it happen but both the right and the left, because they're both Christian. Commie Zizek would've voted for Trump if he was American, that's when you know.

>>20919031
Christianity is a fucking metal illness, why is it so hard for you to accept that?

>80 iq retards who never read a single land book giving their expert opinions
is it one of those alt politicial youtube eceleb fags making videos about nick land? is there a popular may may circulating on /b/ or some other retard board telling you to come here and talk about this? is there some fucking gaymer kid talking about this on his gaymer streams?

why the fuck are a whole bunch of people who never read a single nick land book coming here to tell me their takes on it???

>>20919031
They are only "anti-christian" in what comes to metaphysical beliefs. All of the slave morality and cult of weakness mindset tho, is entirely, entirely christian.

>N-N-N-NO IT ISN'T MY TRADCATH MEMES SHOWED ME CHRISTIANITY AS BADAS—
Well, your memes are wrong. Go read the fucking Sermon of the Mount. Book of Matthew, chapter 7 if i'm not mistaken. Then tell me how all of that "the meek shall inherit the earth" shit is somehow a set of values a strong man should follow and not in any way slave morality.

>>20919200
>. Then tell me how all of that "the meek shall inherit the earth" shit is somehow a set of values a strong man should follow and not in any way slave morality.
How do we kill Christianity? It's impregnated in every fucking institution. The meek have killed all high culture.

>>20918260
Looks like the atheist shills are at it as usual

>>20919141
>metal illness
Rock on, then

>>20919267
>>N-N-N-NO IT ISN'T MY TRADCATH MEMES SHOWED ME CHRISTIANITY AS BADAS—

>>20919270
Christ cannot love you, what you feel is not love and you know it. He's dead and died for his own sins. You owe him nothing.

>>20919261
jew shills nigger fucker

>>20917982
>Companies need to pretend they're good in order to sell product
thats not what is happening at all. they're perpetuating specific ideas of what "good" is because those ideas benefit them. the idea that the rich are "just pandering" is liberal/leftist cope.

>>20919280
"Christianity is mental illness" says the guy spamming the same weird nihilist rants in every other thread unprovoked

>>20919538
>those ideas benefit them
How does it benefit them to cuck to the people? They're scarred shitless of the left because those are their customers.

>>20919522
>>20919541
Low IQ bitches. Christianity is nihilism, anti life bullshit. They promise heaven because life as a Christian is shite.

>>20919621
they absolutely arent "cucking to the people", they are manipulating the people into subverting their identities and morals and ways of life to make way for more for more libertine consumerism, annihilating to homogeneity and cohesion of the working class, and opening up economies to allow easier movement of capital and labour globally in order to fulfill companies needs at the expense of a nations communities and maximize profits and minimize the value of labour and the bargaining power of average people.

>>20919628
>Low IQ bitches.
>Christianity is nihilism
lol. lmao

>>20919653
I know right, Christians actually believe that opposing every vital instinct is nihilism and rejecting the "world" isn’t. Bitches, rejecting the world is nihilism — it’s fuckiI know right, Christians actually believe that opposing every vital instinct is nihilism and rejecting the "world" isn’t. Bitches, rejecting the world is nihilism -- it’s fucking denial.

>>20918116
>read three completely disconnected authors with no intellectual grounding
>actually manage to finish said books, while retaining little to nothing
>these three books are now your entire personality, and magically have all the answers to life's questions
>posts a stupid e-girl reaction pic

Fuck off, please.

>>20919676
Kek, it bugged out.

>>20919676
mate, not only is this a bizarre jumbled nonsensical mess of a post, but you dont even know what nihilism means and you are misusing the word entirely. this is just embarrassing...i will pray for you tonight. may you find a better path in life and may god have mercy in your soul, anon

>>20919647
You don't get it, the left can't be stopped, they're crazy Christian fanatics. Marx converted to Christianity. Marxism is the logical conclusion of Christianity. Companies are just trying to keep their heads above water against these fanatics.

for your consideration, I present to you: the vital and life-affirming would-be overman >>20919676

>>20919693
Marxism is the erasing of the distinction between excellence and mediocrity. It's Christian equality. The meek taking over.

>>20919705
The view is that communism was just Christianity in practice and Jesus was the first communist.This link was highlighted in one of Karl Marx's early writings which stated that "[a]s Christ is the intermediary unto whom man unburdens all his divinity, all his religious bonds, so the state is the mediator unto which he transfers all his Godlessness, all his human liberty".

>>20919697
the logical conclusion of Christianity is that the only thing that drives history is materialism, God and spirituality dont exist as anything but tools of the bourgeois to wage class warfare, and and the only morality is for one to do whats in ones materialistic interests?

>>20919708
We shouldn't throw the meek to the trash just cause they're le heckin inferior races, dumbass. We should inspire the best in everyone and help those who are down. A true Christian would encourage a fat black woman to lose weight and take care of herself better, not encourage her to stay fat and unhealthy. Wouldn't you want someone to help your incel ass or just let you rot?

>>20919676
jewbot bustedddd

>>20919708
your entire conception of christian equality is false, the distinction between excellence and mediocrity absolutely does exist in christian thought

>>20919708
this is your mind when its been rotted by the jew

>>20919725
>the distinction between excellence and mediocrity absolutely does exist in christian thought
So you agree that they're degenerates?

>>20919734
who? christians as a whole? no

Everybody above me and below me in this thread has schizophrenia. Cope and seethe schizos lol

>>20919713
The Christian spirit is equality for all or they'll burn your city. This is what tool down the Roman empire. Once Christians realize that the love of Jesus never comes, they bur down society. That's communism. The logical conclusion of Christianity.

>>20919732
Jesus?

>>20919717
>We shouldn't throw the meek to the trash just cause they're le heckin inferior races, dumbass.
They shouldn't be on magazine covers either, bitch.

>>20919746
>This is what tool down the Roman empire.
actuality this is objectively incorrect. Rome was taken down by basically people doing the opposite on what Jesus preached. wanton wars of aggression and extreme violence fueled by greed stretched the empire and its defenses extremely thin, sinful and apathetic emperors, greed and pride driven internal; powerstruggles and civil wars, over reliance on slavery and the loss of the empires agrarian culture, both of which were caused by extreme greed, and its subsequent inability to adequately supply grain

>>20919790
It was Christianity, it killed the masculine Roman traditions that sustained their society. You're in denial, you're like that guy who refuses to accept his girlfriend is a slut. Love blinds, it's okay, but feel the emptiness, feel the hollowness of Jesus' love. That's how you get out, when you realize it's a delusion.

>>20919817
Read Age of Constantine by Burckhardt, mediterranean pagan society was a fucking spiritual and cultural wasteland long before Christianity. All its strength was sapped, it was as bad in some ways as today's aimless pop culture consumerist faggotry

>>20919824
Roman traditions were kill or be killed, they embraced reality, it had none of today's Christian faggotry.

>>20919817
Feel the hollowness of Jesus' love! It's not real, you're sustained by a delusion instead of your balls.

>>20919817
>You're in denial
project harder. you dont even have an argument to make, just vague platitudes about "masculine traditions" that you are incapable of actually being specific about, while i just listed the actual historical factors that led to the empires decline, historuical facts which you couldnt even begin to prove wrong.

ironically, your nietzschean nonsense tier philosophy was a huge contributor to all the selfish greed and pride and decadence that went into bringing the empire to its knees. Christianity didn't kill it, retards like you did.

>>20919767
Ok and I agree with you. Ffs thats not even the fault of Christians I don't know where you get that from.

>>20919885
its a teenager seething over his Christian upbringing, ignore the nigger

>>20919885
>>20919902
>>20919867
Secularism evolved from Christianity. We live in a hyper-Christian world. Why do you think so many guys on /lit/ pretend they have no will and jack off to Meditations? They're castrated.

>>20919522
Says the faggot shilling a literal jewish religion. You're playing right into their game, retard. Of course there's that other idiot in this thread making this same point in a very retarded manner, but that doesn't make it untrue in any way.

What we observe in the decadence of the world today is merely the very things Nietzsche criticized christianity for in his penultimate work. Christians are nihilists because for EVERY CHRISTIAN "life in this world doesn't matter, what matters is heaven beyond". Phillipians 1:21: "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." How the fuck is any of this not nihilism? This is the same Decadence N criticized Socrates for—"lmao it doesn't matter bro, just let me die, this world don't matter cause the TRUE WORLD is better than this one". Now go ahead and tell me that "it was a metaphor all along" and that the verse i showed you doesn't mean what it means.

And of course one could not possibly mention the decadent world of today without getting into the topic of the so evident before our eyes Slave Morality, as that would be missing the point entirely; for slave morality is the very definition of all of the mentality of the modern neoliberal godless christian. "The meek shall inherit the earth", Jesus said. "If someone strikes you, turn the other cheek", Jesus also said. LARPers usually cope by saying it "doesn't mean what it says" of course, but i believe that to any thinking mind that's not in denial the evidence of the inherent cuck mentality in christcuckery is more than strong here. And let us not forget about Matthew 19:24: "For It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Although the slave moralist of the modern day shortens it out to just "eat the rich".—It is evident, clearer than day before the eyes of any thinking man, that in the mind of whoever made up all of the shit in the bible, power is literally evil and being meek, poor, weak and botched is good. And what do the neoliberals say? They say the same thing: they say might is evil, masculinity is toxic, it's "okay to be weak" (read: "it's evil to not be weak").

All of that shit, all of this disgraceful inversion of values, this decadent mentality, all of this is the ultimate result of christian morality being held by all folks as the only morality—slave morality as the only possible, the only acceptable, the one universal moral value by which all should live by lest they be considered the "outcast among men".


I know the tradcath LARPers (i unfortunately have to call you that) in this place mostly have the right intentions. You want to fight against the cult of weakness, against the herd of decadence, against the absolute disgrace on all that once was MAN that is the man of today. But you are playing yourselves right into the cunning merchant's hands by taking this religion of weakness as your mantra. I recommend reading pic related and deciding for yourselves.

>>20919911
>oops ive been called out, better switch to the next absurd prebaked talking point

kek. i guess i might as well destroy you again

>Secularism evolved from Christianity

no it didnt. secularism is a hard materialist school of thougght who's first recorded appearence is in ancient greece, and was later prominent throughout the middl eeast in the islamic golden age. it saw a resurgence in europe as an anti-christian movement first and foremost emphasising state supremacy, anti-clericalism and materialism.

>We live in a hyper-Christian world

no we dont. our world is defined by its libertine mockery of God and Christs teachings, and the free worship of worldy treasures and sin, and atheism.

>>20919973
> tradcath LARPers
I don't think they larp, they're genuine decadents who pray to Jesus, otherwise they would be easy to convince.

>>20919999
>no it didnt. secularism is a hard materialist school of thougght who's first recorded appearence is in ancient greece, and was later prominent throughout the middl eeast in the islamic golden age. it saw a resurgence in europe as an anti-christian movement first and foremost emphasising state supremacy, anti-clericalism and materialism.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18740986-inventing-the-individual

>>20919999
>mockery of God and Christs teachings
"The meek shall inherit the earth", Jesus said. "If someone strikes you, turn the other cheek", Jesus also said.

"For It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."


"All of that shit, all of this disgraceful inversion of values, this decadent mentality, all of this is the ultimate result of christian morality being held by all folks as the only morality—slave morality as the only possible, the only acceptable, the one universal moral value by which all should live by lest they be considered the "outcast among men".

>>20920011
when you have an argument to make, feel free to shoot me a (you)

>>20920008
LARPers in the sense that they follow (or at least that's the idea) a religion they do not know anything about. It's clear almost none of the people idolizing christianity on 4chan have ever touched a Bible and only inform themselves by a distorted meme idea they see on 4chan about what Christianity is. If they had read it they would be aware of its teachings—and they would be disappointed (or deny it, after all "it's just a metaphor and he didn't actually mean that you should not react to being attacked").

>>20919973
>How the fuck is any of this not nihilism?
because nihilism means that life has no inherent meaning, and that is not what those verses are saying. Christianity preaches that material pleasures are transient and insignificant compared to spiritual life beyond materialism, and the entire religion revolves around not only the inherent meaning god instills in our existence, but the significant meaning of all of our choices and how they reflect on our spiritual lives. Christianity is dictionary definition hard anti-nhilism. under christianity everything has significance and meaning. (except for transient and often self destructive and outwardly destructive materialist pleasures and temptations)

>>20920025
The thing about Christianity is that it attaches itself to you through love, through the idea that Jesus died for you, and this is reinforced every time you pray. So you read everything with rose colored glasses. This is why I think, to destroy Christianity, Jesus has to be destroyed. His teachings have to be exposed as an inversion of reality, and he has to be denounced as a liar by an authority, preferably the state.

This is how Christianity dies. A genuine transvaluation of values.

>>20920049
You sound like a former addict.

>>20917982
christ was an anarchist

https://youtu.be/Ewzr-ioQ_9k

>>20920074
ok? this still doesn't mean you arent an embarrassing brainlet using terms you dont even understand to attack a religion you dont understand

>>20920090
You're a nihilist don't you see that? The spiritual is just a complement to the material, something that you experience in a life or death situation, or in a very exciting moment. It's the other way around, and it certainly doesn't mean that you just wait to die for the promise of heaven. The material and the spiritual complete each other.

And the spiritual is a reflection of your inner strength, of your masculinity, not of a dead Jew.

>>20920049
First of all, ignore this idiot >>20920074; he's not me and most probably a falseflag.

Now, on nihilism: there's plenty of both personal and dictionary definitions of nihilism. It's a word that can be used in different contexts and under different meanings. It can be lack of belief in society or politics, it can mean lack in belief in religion, or can also just be meant as a synonim for "pessimism", as we see it often used. Now you must understand that Nihilism in this context and in Nietzsche's work, nihilism means "denial of life"; as in a denial of the real world, a denial of the real world for a so-called transcendental world, on which very often (in most "true world" belief systems) everything is perfect and wonderful, as opposed to this world we perceive right now, which is "bad" and not the "true world" that one should care for—therefore our life in this world doesn't matter.


Given the definition of this concept as i presented it, it makes itself undeniable that Christianity follows this line of thought entirely by the book. For the Christian this life right here isn't the one that matters, for there is a world beyond awaiting you, if you're not "evil"—as in, you're not the romans or the rich men the original poor commoners who kickstarted christianity in the very beginning so very hated and wanted to see destroyed. And there we get into the entire subject of Christian morality, the CORE of christian morality, which is that in which the meek, humble, weak and poor are the ones who will inherit this "kingdom beyond", this "kingdom of heaven". Matthew 19:24. It was never about making some "better society" where people do not "sin", that is, do not kill, steal, rob, etc. It was about giving those who were unfortunate in this life false hope—don't worry, your life sucks in this world but this world doesn't matter anyway. For in the true world that's beyond this one, the powerful will be punished, and the weak rewarded. For eternity. You are not opressed—you are the good, the just. And you shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.

>>20920090
>>20920144
"the Christian morality itself, the idea of truth, taken as it was with increasing seriousness, the confessor-subtlety of the Christian conscience translated and sublimated into the scientific conscience into intellectual cleanness at any price. Regarding Nature as though it were a proof of the goodness and guardianship of God; interpreting history in honour of a divine reason, as a constant proof of a moral order of the world and a moral teleology; explaining our own personal experiences, as pious men have for long enough explained them, as though every arrangement, every nod, every single thing were invented and sent out of love for the salvation of the soul; all this is now done away with, all this has the conscience against it, and is regarded by every subtler conscience as disreputable, dishonourable, as lying, feminism, weakness, cowardice—by means of this severity, if by means of anything at all, are we, in sooth, good Europeans and heirs of Europe's longest and bravest self-mastery."

>>20917982
Read Ellul.

>>20921275
>Christian anarchist
This is exactly what this thread is about, the stupidity of Christianity and its built in anarchism.
Ellul is the perfect example.

>>20919031
Babeuf was based though. What's your issue with him

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