Gay litreture

[Anonymous No.20851553]

My step nephew is having gender problems and as a favor to my dad and a sort of rehab , conversion therapy, i've agreed to take him to Italy for a month. I dont think im expected to make a man of him or anything, just take him away from his equally gender confused friends.
I even asked the gf not to come because he is always trying to imitate her.

He is 15 and obviously gay. Denying that, In my opinion, may actually make his problems worse, with him going on hormones and getting the chop, just to 'be normal.'. My hope is to just distract him and maybe give him some much needed confidence.


He reads plenty and does whatever i tell him, so i mean to push some affirming gay lit in his direction.

[Anonymous No.20851558]

>>20851553
Tell him to suck your penis

[Anonymous No.20851564]

>>20851558
no

[Anonymous No.20851585]

Be honest, can he pull it off?

[Anonymous No.20851593]

>I'm taking my gay nephew to Italy and I specifically asked my gf not to come
nigga that's gay

[Anonymous No.20851596]

>>20851593
>>I'm taking my gay nephew to Italy and I specifically asked my gf not to come

He has no interest in her except except that he want to look like her. She is not gonna fuck him straight, thats for sure.

>>20851585
what the girl thing ?
IDK he is 15, boys, girls, they all look the same. Probably not tho. Right now he looks silly, but thats just cuz he doesn't know what he is doing.


anyway recommend me stuff , and dont say André Gid. Too dull.

[Anonymous No.20851602]

>>20851553
Augiéras, The Sorcerer's Apprentice

[Anonymous No.20851603]

Someone here praised Earthly Powers by Anthony Burgess. But all I know is that it's about a gay writer

[Anonymous No.20851607]

>>20851596
What I was getting at, is that you want him to see you as less of an uncle and more as a daddy.

[Anonymous No.20851614]

>no death in venice
Death in Venice

[Anonymous No.20851621]

>>20851553
>He is 15 and obviously gay. Denying that, In my opinion, may actually make his problems worse, with him going on hormones and getting the chop, just to 'be normal.'. My hope is to just distract him and maybe give him some much needed confidence.
Holy fuck this was me as a kid. I was gaslit into not living my life and it has been very very hard.

[Anonymous No.20851622]

>>20851607
He had no father figure since he was 6 or something ... Im not taking over, i've got a life to live, but since i have him i hope to show him masculinity ,and i guess life in general is not what discord tells him it is.
His mom is actually a responsible lady but she had to work and he was practically raised by the internet, thus the gender thing.

if you mean that in a sexual way then thats lewd anon

>>20851614

Im not sure thats an 'affirming' book. Though i do like Mann.

[Anonymous No.20851637]

>>20851622
>affirming
It's a don't be an idiot and repress important shit out of fancy book

[Anonymous No.20851639]

>>20851637
is it? Mann was perfectly happy to repress his sexuality ,both before and after.
I think the unrequited part of that story is kind of the point.

[Anonymous No.20851645]

>>20851621
>Holy fuck this was me as a kid. I was gaslit into not living my life and it has been very very hard.

what did you do. Do tell.

[Anonymous No.20851651]

>>20851553
>going on an Italian holiday with a gay 15 year old
>alone
This is a bait thread so anyway so just start posting the good stuff please, guys.

[Anonymous No.20851653]

>>20851553

[Anonymous No.20851668]

>>20851553
SAGE
Kill yourself faggot

[Anonymous No.20851672]

>>20851639
It's not just the love interest he never talks to, the MC ignores a cholera epidemic because it might stop him seeing the love interest, changes his taste in music just after being knighted for his taste in music, doesn't realise he's in love with the boy he's clearly in love with until like half way through when he probably already has caught cholera and is having fever dreams, and then you have the whole lipstick on a pig foil where he becomes the dolled up old queer he was disgusted by before he repressed his own tastes. Mann's definitely writing about repression and avoiding reality.
It's not just the homoeroticism of the book but the singular fixation and everything he's willing to repress for one desire that's fitting thematically. You're only looking for gay parts and not considering that your nephew probably only wants to be the grill because women are more generally the objects of such ruinous desire for men and so a reality where the young boy is beautiful and his sisters almost nuns they're so plain might give him room to see such desire as not solely female focused. That it points out you might not pass how you want incidentally and the fact he's more likely to identify with the invincible adolescent than the repressed make up wearing dead guy probably means he'll be asking you for a sailor suit with trousers within weeks of reading it.

[Anonymous No.20851704]

I'm not sure how important "affirming gay" literature is right now to him. Give him some affirming full stop literature. Some bildungsroman that will make him think in general. Since you mentioned that you liked Mann, I'd say something like Magic Mountain, but I think that he might be too young for that, a lot of things would fly over his head.
I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say, maybe you have something on your mind already.
If not, give him Maldoror, i dunno.

[Anonymous No.20851710]

Anything about being closeted?
I'm not gay but I find that stuff to be very powerful

[Anonymous No.20851718]

>>20851710
sure you aren't homo

[Anonymous No.20851721]

>taking an obviously gay 15 year old to the birthplace of Catholicism while firmly asking your girlfriend not to come
>posts picture of a hairy man stepping on a hairless boy's face

You are going to fully turn this kid into a faggot, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.20851724]

>>20851672
>Means he'll be asking you for a sailor suit with trousers within weeks of reading it.
Yes, this means OP will fuck his nephew's twink ass into oblivion and he'll realise he isn't a tranny but a twink. He'll have a pederastic and healthy relationships with a Socrates like figure, and when he reaches his early 20s and can no longer look like androgynous and fulfill a passive role in homosexuality he'll become straight. It's a great outcome.

[Anonymous No.20851729]

>>20851718
Yeah I'm not
Tried gay pornography when I was 13 and it did nothing for me besides make me feel bad

[Anonymous No.20851737]

>>20851553
You should cast him into a firepit, he is obviously a demon and God doesn't make gay people

[Anonymous No.20851743]

>>20851672
There is something to him wanting to become a girl for the male attention, but trans people get is very different form of it , even when the attention is good . I hope he can see that, though he may be too young and timid to understand.

It's been a while since i read DIV so you may be right . Though the impression i got was always more of a classical tragedy, however inverted, where beauty is the only thing that can compete with power and thus destroys the hero. the MC discovers his nature in comfortable old age, but he never acts on it. He seems fulfilled by the mere idea of the kid. He writes, he becomes more energetic, but he gains it all from the occasional glimpse, and is only destroyed by trying to go further. The relationship is more dante and beatrice then anything.

>>20851704
he is now reading Waugh's Decline and fall. They had it on the shelf and i told him it's funny and kinda gay .
like i said he is oddly timid. does whatever you tell him.


>>20851724
>>20851651
lol
I truly regret mentioning the gf thing. I thought it would would show im straight and thus he's is in safe hands.
Though if he gets laid there it might even help.

[Anonymous No.20851822]

>Timid
>Wants to look like your GF
>Does whatever you tell him

Looking anon, I'm not saying you have to bugger him. But I think he likes you.

Also I don't recommend Earthly powers, it's mostly about how gay people are sad, and will likely die alone. Good book though.

[Anonymous No.20851828]

>>20851553
Not your blog groomer.

[Anonymous No.20851841]

>>20851553
>Tfw no cute submissive 15 year old nephew to take on a romantic trip to Italy where I show him the pleasures of taking dick up your ass
Why even live

[Anonymous No.20851870]

>>20851743
>Waugh's Decline and fall.
Of all the female role models you gave him Mrs Beste-Chetwynde/Metroland? What's next, East of Eden? Myra Breckinridge?

[Anonymous No.20851933]

>>20851870
Hey he likes it. Said it's funny. He's got taste, there is hope him

>>20851822
I doubt it, he definitely a little scared of me though IDK why, i've always been nice, if a little indifferent to him. . Also he is too timid to ever do anything. I've seen him with his 'friends' no one can look each other in the eye.

[Anonymous No.20851964]

>>20851553
>my nephew is having problems with his mental illness
>tranny-ism, not homosexuality, why I'm gay too so surely there's nothing wrong with gays.
Fuck you mentally ill faggot. Let your nephew recover from the degeneracy you plan on shoving down his throat in secret you fucking aids-ridden rat. Sage'd your dogshit thread too kill yourself

[Anonymous No.20852043]

>>20851553
Anon i think you shouldn't give him anything that's explicitly about homosexuality. I believe that a lot of the LGBT stuff has to do with identification issues. Monkeys have gay sex and dolphins fuck penguins.
The problem is basing your assumed identity on the kind of people you want to have sex with.
So the optimal solution would be to fix this identity problem by being initiated into a tradition or belief system that removes this false sense of self (the atman) and instead focuses on the whole (the brahman, god, whatever). How this is happening doesn't matter too much. Being shy, depressed, insecure or obsessed with the own assumed sexuality are all issues stemming from an overidentification with the ego.
For me the way was anti-realism (a la Donald Hoffmann and Westerhoff) to Bernardo Kastrup to idealism, non-dualism, Yogachara, Advaita Vedanta and Guenon etc.
I also liked King Warrior Magician Lover and Iron John and there is a very good section about sexuality in the BAP book even though I don't agree with it's politics. There is also a Sufi book called In an Eastern Rose Garden by Hazrat Khan that's a little more feminine in it's approaches.
sorry I'm ESL

[Anonymous No.20852051]

>>20852043
>dolphins fuck penguins
Penguins fuck dead penguins even if it's gay so laying all the blame on the dolphin here seems off

[Anonymous No.20852054]

>>20852043
Very good English for ESL, well said anon.

[Anonymous No.20852055]

>>20852051
>Penguins fuck dead penguins even if it's gay so laying all the blame on the dolphin here seems off
Are you fucking retarded? Jesus Christ how old are you?

[Anonymous No.20852058]

>>20852051
kek

[Anonymous No.20852080]

>>20851553
desu it could be a low test thing too. Convince him to start working out, drink 12 raw egg yolks a day and spend a lot of time in the sun

[Anonymous No.20852105]

Giovanni's Room could be what you're looking for. I kinda went through similar phases of confusion about my own gender like your nephew when i was younger. Social media is poison.

[Anonymous No.20852120]

>>20851553
Had similar issues as a teen - effeminate, long hair, shy etc. Luckily I didn’t go full tranny because I had a dominant slut gf who pretty much forced me to have sex, but she also cheated constantly so maybe the cuckoldry was even more damaging.
It wasn’t until mid twenties that I realized my problem stemmed from absent masculine role models and low testosterone. Managed to pull myself together and man up, although the traumas made me schizoid.
What I’m trying to say with this blogpost is that your nephew might not even be gay, just terribly confused and misguided. Try to toughen him up before affirming homosexuality - not that there’s anything wrong with gayness of course, we’re on /lit/ after all.

[Anonymous No.20852131]

>>20851614
OP wants to death in venice his cousin

[Anonymous No.20852135]

>>20852120
>my problem stemmed from absent masculine role models

that's what king warrior magician lover is about

[Anonymous No.20852145]

>>20851553
I don't think that will work anon, many of my friends were accepted as gay as kids but transitioned anyway. Some even went from being into women to being into men. But if i had to pick one i'd say maybe fight club would make them more confident.

[Anonymous No.20852154]

>>20851672
You can gice a tranny a kini for being a tadziolike boy. That may be OP's best chance to pull it off

[Anonymous No.20852170]

>>20851743
Just fuck him you faggot, he'll appreciate it in the end, I assure you.

Also when you do please come back and tell us the details; this is my greatest fantasy.

Is he Blond, Btw?

[Anonymous No.20852175]

>>20852131
—and yes, that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.20852177]

>>20851672
Kind of yeah, the MC isn't just in love with tadzio, he wants to BE him, because he's young and beautiful while he's decrepit and about to die.

[Anonymous No.20852186]

>its vital that my girlfriend doesnt accompany me to Italy, she would get in the way of manly binding between me and my nubile, 15 year old gay cousin.
>I'll make a man out of him yet

[Anonymous No.20852198]

>>20852105

Thanks anon. I'll read it on the train home tonight.See if it's appropriate

>>20852080
>>20852120
>>20852145

He certainly seems gay. He's stayed over ones I've taken him around down town before and the way he looks at guys, particularly good looking ones, is obvious.

Also his mom tells me she caught him kissing a boy on the playground when he was 13 .

Also for heavens sake i dont care of he is trans it's just that everyone in his friends circle is some form of gender special.
literally everyone he talks to is on hormones or binding, or loudly dreaming of the day they can legally cut their dick off.

if he wants to fuck his life up, fine. but he needs to know there is more out there.
You can be happy in a sex cult, but usually it's because you see no alternative for yourself.

[Anonymous No.20852208]

If he's going to be a fag, make sure he grows up to be a right-leaning homofascist like Mishima.

[Anonymous No.20852251]

>>20852198
>Also for heavens sake i dont care of he is trans it's just that everyone in his friends circle is some form of gender special
He needs a gay friend at least, being around trannies all day is bad, even for trannies. Do they have any hobbies? Try to push them into a club where girls or gays go to

[Anonymous No.20852290]

Not exactly gay but Hemingway helped me out a lot. Also Italy , and just Europe, has quite a bit of homosexuality but not many trannies so getting socialized there is not as bad.

[Anonymous No.20852304]

>>20852290
Italy's Europe's Brazil

[Anonymous No.20852306]

>>20852304
>europe's brazil
>not spain or portugal

[Anonymous No.20852313]

>>20852290
If you knew more about Hemingway you'd really rethink about recommending him to a tranny lol

[Anonymous No.20852350]

>>20852306
>implying Spain/Portugal didn't also own half of Italy when it owned Brazil

[Anonymous No.20852372]

>>20851553
give him bald's leechbook.
why would you turn him gay, when he can become heterosexual.
dude has this copying mindset where he copies everything he sees.
15 yos have adhd tho, and a medieval medicine book is what it takes for a kid to get into something while forgetting dumb vices.
also, give him the lebor gabala erenn.
make him read good, obscure shit, so he wont be able to copy anything, because of the unknownness of it.

[Anonymous No.20852410]

>>20852177
"I love you!"
What did the main character of DIV mean by this?

[Anonymous No.20852417]

>>20851553
Italian here. Bring him in my hometown (better if it's after 15/09) I'll pound the fuck out of him till he becomes straight again.

[Anonymous No.20852422]

>>20852417
OP wants him for himself retard. Why did you think he planned this trip?

[Anonymous No.20852515]

>>20851553
Holy fuck let him be feminine, kiss a dude or two at a house party in college and then let him go his way putting babies a girl some point later.
How is this such a difficult thing?

Stop grooming gays or whatever. Holy shit read a suicide ways book or something yourself instead.

[Anonymous No.20852520]

>>20852422
We can both fack the twink. As matter of fact, if takes two dicks raw, no vaseline allowed, he might reject homosexuality altogether

[Anonymous No.20852900]

>>20851621
die

[Anonymous No.20852969]

>>20851553
Men are so depraved, defective and vile.

[Anonymous No.20853022]

>his equally gender confused friends
this is just most kids now. your hysteria over a new generation understanding gender differently is going to make them react equally hysterically and actually go on hrt or get the chop to meet your opposition. most of their generation just end up presenting androgynously. some time away from the internet would do most westerners good, sure. but the most good you can do is just to give them room to grow and have confidence in who they are. by trying to change them you’re only reinforcing the idea that they have to change.

[Anonymous No.20853032]

>>20851553
you're in a pickle, I'll tell you that much. Introducing masculinity isn't really going to do anything unless you give him reason to want it. Most kids like this lack a real self-interest, they want to be accepted by their peers and their peers are currently treating gender like trading cards he will eventually be obliged to do the same no matter how much masculinity you expose him to. Whether he comes out of the closet or not, you will need to make the VITAL distinction to him that he is a "man that is gay" not a "gay man". If you or him fail to understand this, he will just "trade up" his homosexuality for something more eccentric so he can be cool online. He needs to develop an understanding of his individuality.

[Anonymous No.20853054]

>>20852043
The ATMAN is the BRAHMAN

[Anonymous No.20853068]

>>20853054
OP will most likely put his ATMAN into his nephew's BRAHMAN iukwim

[Anonymous No.20853079]

>>20851553
you should address your "nephew" by she/her pronouns, to help her feel more comfortable in herself.

[Anonymous No.20853288]

>>20851553
It sounds like a lost cause. Anybody willing to cut off their dick is a certain kind of queer. The only possibility is of delaying it a bit by convincing him that he’s more appealing to men as a femboy in knee high stockings that kind of thing. You might have to buy them for him since he’s shy. Also get him a dildo while you’re at it and show him how he can receive a lot of pleasure as a passive participant without having a front hole.

[Anonymous No.20853880]

This is maybe the sexist threat in lit.

[Anonymous No.20853998]

Jesus christ gay """men""" are so fucking mentally ill, fucking creeps. Reading this thread was the goddamn most nauseating thing.

Leave the child alone, OP. I can clearly see the actual intentions behind your post and they will be the very opposite of beneficial to this boy.

[Anonymous No.20854014]

>>20853998
Fucking weak satanic shit. Its telling that all fags know and celebrate is decay and corruption.

[Anonymous No.20854019]

Begone, sodomites, this is MY board.

[Anonymous No.20854108]

>>20851553
Since you’ll be in Italy the obvious novel is call me by your name, but it really is boring. Most gay literature is not affirming but tragic so you will probably just end up making things worse if you try to make him read something gay.

[Anonymous No.20854147]

>>20851553
>My step nephew is having gender problems
>plebbit spacing
Pottery
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.20854149]

>>20853880
>threat
w-what?

[Anonymous No.20854157]

>>20851668
/thread

[Anonymous No.20854194]

OP, if he insists on getting the cockchop, you should show him examples from the SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors thread on kiwi farms so he can see what could go wrong.

>>20853032
Most genderweirdness is pretty harmless. Xey/Xirs and Fae/Faeself nonbinaries generally don't take hormones or want to get their body parts removed.

[Anonymous No.20854246]

>>20851553
>>20852208
this. he needs to read confessions of a mask