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The final boss of literature.

>> No.20847953
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20847953

Cute. But no.
Picrel is it. You unironically have to be a master to read it, absorb it, enjoy it, and learn from it.

>> No.20847968

>>20847679
im genuinely curious how many people have actually read the book and comprehended it. from the little bit ive skimmed it seems incomprehensible.

>>20847953
i finished the first two books and i can confirm that within a budding grove at least was an absolute slog, but still a very beautiful novel and i appreciate prousts insights into the human condition

>> No.20847980

>>20847968
Wait till you get to the 3rd book with the 100 page party scene. At least I think it was the 3rd book. One of the biggest slogs ever

>> No.20848001

>>20847679
Is this the kind of book where I should pick apart and analyse every sentence or should I just submit myself to the "stream of consciousness" writing style, not trying to analyse too much?

>> No.20848042
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20848042

>>20847679
>>20847953

Cute, but no.

>> No.20848044

>>20848001
You read it aloud and savour the beauty of the proses.

>> No.20848051

>>20847679
one of the only books i unironically hate. whenever i read it i feel a visceral hatred for all these nonsense sounds that joyce is transcribing and for the lack of surface level structure. im aware of how long he spent writing it and how it's basically all coded speech with some kind of actual meaning behind it, but the gobbledygook at the surface pisses me off. if this is what getting filtered feels like then so be it. funny to think some people get this feeling from blood meridian or moby dick or whatever.

>> No.20848055

>>20848042
definitely one of my favorite books ever but i wouldn't say its as difficult as finnegans wake. its basically written in modern english vernacular for starters

>> No.20848058

>>20847953
>>20848042
If you're talking about actual complexity of language and overall difficulty, neither of these compare. Though Proust is daunting because of length. GR is fantastic but I never found it difficult

>> No.20848068

>>20847953
>4 volumes
Wasn't it supposed to be bigger than that

>> No.20848074

>>20848058
agreed

>> No.20848084

>People who treat literature like video games have shit taste
Shocking.

>> No.20848088

>>20848058
Joyce's "difficulty" is artificial and phony. Proust speaks clearly and directly to the human condition.

>> No.20848130

>>20848088
You're obviously gay for Proust. The point is Proust is not 'the final boss' of literature by any metric

>> No.20848157

>>20847679
There is no final boss. The real redpill is reading something that speaks to you at certain moments in your life. That book will differ depending on your age and where your at in life

>> No.20848159

>>20847679
weird middle name but ok

>> No.20848226

>>20848088
"Proust? That's not literature." — Cormac McCarthy

>> No.20848235

>>20848226
Cormac McCarthy is the pinnacle of "artificial and phony" literature. Of fucking course he was filtered by Proust's heartfelt and direct style.

>> No.20848251

>>20848235
He's the pinnacle of fiction, indeed

>> No.20848258

>>20848226
wtf i hate Cormac McCarthy now

>> No.20848271

>>20848226
i enjoyed suttree and blood meridian immensely but hes just wrong about proust

>> No.20848282
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20848282

Pretty sure final boss is this

>> No.20848286

>>20847679
>>20848042
These are high school reading material.

>> No.20848563

>>20847953
There is nothing challenging about this book compared to Finnegans Wake. I love asking good readers to read the first page aloud seeing how far they can get without stumbling, breaking rhythm, mispronounced words, etc. No one can do it everyone gets filtered

>> No.20848572

>>20848563
That’s not literature. It’s an autistic game with phonics.

>> No.20848583

>>20848286
very few (ie none) highschoolers would have anywhere near the amount of knowledge to appreciate most of the books chapters. you need to have a pretty solid grasp on the pop culture of the time period, as well as the counter culture movement, various different conspiracy, scientific concepts etc. i read it for the first time at age 18 and i definitely wasn't fully prepared

>> No.20848611

>>20847679
It's shit, but marshall mcluhan wrote interesting stuff about it

>> No.20848612

>>20848572
Call it what you will. No one can play the game but those who make the book their life's mission (figuratively speaking)

>> No.20848619

>>20848612
what a low thing to aim a life at

>> No.20848629

>>20848619
It's not unusual for academics to devote an entire decade of time and energy to a subject. While some go on to specialize and master one particular aspect of a subject. There are Joyce scholars out there and FW is a book only accessible to them and related literature buffs