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To what extent was Hitler -- and the NSDAP at large -- influenced by Nietzsche?

>> No.20836308

A little bit here and there, I s'pose

>> No.20836322

a political system is not defined by any one philosophy except perhaps machiavelli, rousseau, hobbes & aristotle

a philosopher like nietzsche is essentially useless to a politician if not to anyone at all really

>> No.20836332

>>20836299
Read ‘Hitler’s Library’ and find out

>> No.20836348

>>20836322
Aristotle is massively overrated for political philosophy. Most of it is common sense rambling about various issues in Greek city states at the time. The only interesting bits are on how a state resembles a husband ruling over his wife, how cripples should be aborted, and heroic monarchies. It's a shame he spends so much time discussing politeia, considering it is the least interesting and least distinguished form of constitution.

>> No.20836357

>>20836348
aristotle deals with how to plausibly apply what plato even discusses politically in to action that is why i mentioned him but you are correct that he is not sufficient that is why i also mentioned rousseau

>> No.20836512

>>20836299
Hitler was more of a Schopenhauer fan.

>> No.20836519

>>20836512
yeah the kantian-schopenhaurian ethics of richard wagner's writings on politics are probably the basis of hitler's vision for prussia

>> No.20836627

>>20836299
>the chud stare vs the chad uninterested stone cold look

>> No.20836635

>>20836299
Zero. They were influenced by his sister’s distortion
Naziism is about being proud of your slave morality

>> No.20836656

>>20836512
Schopenhauer didn't influence his politics, but Nietzsche and Wagner did.

>> No.20837559

I read in book 'Pandora's Lab' that Hitler was greatly influenced by the American eugenicist Madison Grant, he had a bestseller that Hitler read while in jail, and used as the basis for his final solution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Grant

>> No.20838666

>>20836635
>nazism
>slave morality
Read Mein Kampf, Dalton translation

>> No.20839356

>>20836656
And schoepenhauer directly influenced nietzche and wagner............... and hitler........

>> No.20839364

>>20838666
>>nazism
>>slave morality
yes.

>> No.20839904

>>20836299
None at all I think. Alfred Rosenberg, for example, was totally dismissive of his work

>> No.20840943

>>20836299
Very little. Hitler was influenced ideologically when he attended the Realschule and met teachers like Dr Leopold Potsch. In another book "The Mind of Adolf Hitler" it states that Hitler's nationalist tendencies were based on his parentage with his German father and Austrian mother.

>> No.20840952

Nietzsche influenced everybody directly or indirectly starting from the 1890s. If you weren't directly "Nietzschean" you were still influenced by all the Freikorps authors like Junger who were, or Thomas Mann's Gedanken im Kriege. But other influences like Houston Stewart Chamberlain were more decisive for the Nazis directly.

Read Mosse Crisis of German Ideology and Goodrick-Clarke Occult Roots of Nazism

>> No.20840967

quite heavily from what i understand. unfortunately that type of outlook always brings down even the greatest men among us. if he payed less attention to the likes of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer and a little bit more attention to the bible he probably would have gone down as the greatest man to ever live since Christ

>> No.20840987

>>20840967
Hitler was like raw energy, it's a shame he wasn't channeled into something with more principle, he really could have been the King in the Mountain and Frederick II Redivivus

>> No.20840992

>>20836332
Not op, but will surely read.

>> No.20841235

>>20839356
Yes, but not their politics.