/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20807864]

My brothers in misery...

[Anonymous No.20807874]

My brothers in misery...

[Anonymous No.20807921]

>>20807874
who's top middle?

[Anonymous No.20807931]

>>20807864
>>20807874
Only one of these people has a sense of humour, and he's also the best writer -- coincidence?

[Anonymous No.20807941]

>>20807921
Al-Ma'arri, one of the greatest Arabic poet. He was blind. He suffered. A lot.
Omar Khayyam was also blackpilled

What do you think about Gass' prose?
>So shut your fist up, bitch, you bag of death; go bang another door; go die, my dearie. Die, life-deaf old lady. Spill your breath. Fall over like a frozen board. Gray hair grows from the nose of your mind. You are a skull already—memento mori—the foreskin retracts from your teeth. Will your plastic gums last longer than your bones, and color their grinning? And is your twot still hazel-hairy, or are you bald as a ditch? . . . bitch . . . . . . bitch . . . . . . . . . bitch. I wanted to be famous, but you bring me age—my emptiness. Was it that which I thought would balloon me above the rest? Love? where are you? . . . love me. I want to rise so high, I said, that when I shit I won’t miss anybody.

IN THE HEART OF THE HEART OF THE COUNTRY

[Anonymous No.20807953]

>>20807931
Cioran is funny, Ligotti has subtle dark humor(he even said no matter how dark he consider humor to be most human trait), Bernhard is funny, Beckett is funny, Schopenhauer is unintentionally funny, Zapffe wrote few books on jokes.

You have shitty sense for humor.

[Anonymous No.20807989]

>>20807953
All those people (save Beckett) are the funny in the same sense that Foucault or Nietzsche talk about 'laughter', a wheezy skull-faced observer cracking an evil grin at the absurdity of things. Beckett's the only one who actually submits to the goofy logic of the gag.

(Plus I've barely read any of these guys heheh.)

[Anonymous No.20807999]

I don't get why people think of Beckett as being "miserable" or even negative in his philosophy. He soaked up life & didn't dwell in misery at all. His novels are filled with humor and an admiration for people who can forge meaning out of destitute or empty experiences. I think it's a fundamental misreading if you get some nihilistic or miserable experience out of reading his books.

If you want to be persuaded, I highly recommend reading "The Letters of Samuel Beckett 1966-1989" & the biography in pic. They're testaments to how much he soaked in life, spending time with his Suzanne, playing tennis and cricket, and meeting & corresponding with young writers. In his letters you see a tenderness & love of life that is more difficult to find in his fiction.

[Anonymous No.20808011]

>>20807989
>Foucault or Nietzsche talk about 'laughter', a wheezy skull-faced observer cracking an evil grin at the absurdity of things
Projection

[Anonymous No.20808025]

>>20807999
So? He had to cope with life and he did. One time he said that life is such a long journey towards death.

[Anonymous No.20808042]

I only recognize pessoa

[Anonymous No.20808074]

>>20808025
>One time he said that life is such a long journey towards death.
How exactly is that negative or pessimistic? That's just reality, brother. He had persistent health issues, yet decided to live 83 years & never once (according to his biographer Cronin) did he even consider suicide as an option. Quoting from the book page 519:
>when the topic of this often discussed solution [suicide] to the problem of existence was raised, he brusquely replied that such a solution was 'out of the question'
I can dig around for more evidence from this biography if you still aren't convinced. He had a pessimistic attitude toward most human beings, but not at the reality of life as a whole. An individual could rise above the muck of humanity to find meaning in his own life. I think it's indicative that he died only a handful of months after his wife Suzanne. His heart was broken. And I don't think a philosophical pessimist could have a broken heart.

[Anonymous No.20808284]

Let us arise from the constraints of causality, brothers

[Anonymous No.20809000]

>>20807921
Abu al-ma'ari, ancient arabic pessimist and antinatalist.

[Anonymous No.20809008]

>>20808284
An act never possible, for the 'arising' comes from the connection to causality, and is itself caused.

[Anonymous No.20809083]

>>20809000
Learned about an interesting poet from looking for trips.

[Anonymous No.20809096]

>>20807864
>Cioran
shit

[Anonymous No.20809741]

>>20807864
I'm a better thinker than all of them.

[Anonymous No.20809919]

>>20807874
Who's middle right?

[Anonymous No.20809933]

>>20809919
Zapffe

[Anonymous No.20810337]

>>20807864
>>20807874
Never heard of them.

[Anonymous No.20811686]

>>20807864
I don't know who bottom left is but too right was a pseud and bottom right lived a happy life. The only truly fucked up is Pessoa

[Anonymous No.20811717]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_intrinsic_pontine_glioma
The best argument for anti-natalism out there.

[Anonymous No.20811731]

>>20811717
Why am I crying

[Anonymous No.20812047]

>>20808074
>And I don't think a philosophical pessimist could have a broken heart.
This might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen written on this board.

[Anonymous No.20812101]

>>20807953
>>20807989
Pessoa is also very funny but as usual the humour might be lost in translation, especially since the portuguese sense of humour (which he acutely had) is extremely dry and based on vocabulary and syntax.
You also have to read him outside of the usual "le doomer" persona people usually ascribe to him.

[Anonymous No.20812147]

>>20812101
everything is funny according to pseuds because it makes it seem like they have a super highbrow sense of humor and communicates intelligence without actually backing it up

[Anonymous No.20812273]

>>20812147
One of the sure signs of pseudery is not being able to appreciate the humour contained even in serious matters.