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20795615 No.20795615 [Reply] [Original]

"Free verse" is not poetry. It's just prose with line breaks.

>> No.20795618

>>20795615
What a completely fucking retarded opinion.

>> No.20795630

>>20795615
where is the janny, why do I keep seeing hate symbol posted here. clean all frogs, janny

>> No.20795677

>>20795615
Based and true

>> No.20795683

op is not a retard, he is just special.

>> No.20795690

>>20795615
>free verse
>written in a book that costs money

>> No.20795697

true

>> No.20795802

>>20795615
I agree. The line is too blurred at that point without some kind of structure.

>> No.20795827

Free verse is prose (poetry) with line breaks, yes. I've never read a free verse poem that I wouldn't have preferred to be an article or pamphlet.

>> No.20795839

I mostly ignore rhymed poetry. It's just feels childish, frivolous and kitschy. Sorry. :/
Free verse or nothing.

>> No.20795853

>>20795615
Preach

>> No.20795854

>>20795839
I hear this opinion expressed. It sounds like Dr. Seuss, etc. But do you feel the same way about music?

>> No.20795859

>>20795839
t. Thinks all unrhymed poetry is “free verse”

>> No.20795871

>>20795615
No, there is still intention of rhythm and sonority in free verse.

>> No.20795892

>>20795827
I found Stevan Davies' translation of the Apocryphon of John in verse to be far superior to any other presentation. Arguably there are poetic devices used that distinguish it from "free verse", but I think in any "free verse" poetry you will find poetic devices used as they occur naturally in prose. I disagree therefore with the OP; there is a distinction between free verse and prose further than simply line breaks.

By placing line breaks in it, a prose work is changed at least in that it is no longer read in a natural voice (prose) and becomes something slightly different, containing also the mentioned poetic devices that occur naturally in prose, but are now changed. They are no longer devices that serve the purpose of being part of the prose, but now serve the purpose of being poetry.

You are fools and will suffer for letting "free verse" pass you by because you've arrogantly assumed it's too similar to prose. Open your eyes and give your heads a shake you madmen.

>> No.20795922

>>20795871
Lots of prose has rhythm and sonority.

>>20795892
>You are fools and will suffer for letting "free verse" pass you by because you've arrogantly assumed it's too similar to prose.
Plenty of free "verse" is worth reading, just like plenty of prose is. But neither is poetry.

>> No.20795928

>>20795922
I could accept there being a third category, but I think we can be satisfied with prose being writing in the way we speak and poetry being anything else.

>> No.20795931

>>20795615
Other poetry is also just prose with line breaks, just also with rhymes and meter throughout

>> No.20795969

>>20795928
>prose being writing in the way we speak
That would be dialog. Prose is closer to the way we think but even that is not accurate, more constructed and planned out than thought generally is.

>> No.20795984

>>20795922
>Lots of prose has rhythm and sonority.
Sure, but prose tends to confine itself to conversational or declarative styles, whereas free verse inserts deliberate line breaks to emphasize certain rhythms or speech sounds.

>> No.20796016

>>20795969
Yes, you are right, and we see here we are ultimately dealing with definitions in this discussion. I think it might not be worth our time lol.

>> No.20796021

>>20795839
that's blank verse, mayne

>> No.20796025

>>20795618
fpbp

>> No.20796029

>>20795630
this. what's with all the alt-righters flooding up the board

>> No.20796031

>>20796025
he whined like a woman instead of giving an actual refutation

>> No.20796042

>>20796016
Dialog is the only one we can accurately define and that is sort of a cheat since dialog can contain prose and poem. Best to just lurk and poke the occasional hole in fruitless attempts.

>> No.20796185

In the principality of Dialogus
On the day of meaning
The duke of reason decreed
That you're a faggot

>> No.20796324

>>20796185
Lol nice.

>> No.20796496

>>20795615
All poetry is gay. Read some non-fiction you dorks

>> No.20796504

>>20795839
Poetry can have a metre without a rhyme scheme.
It's called blank verse.

>> No.20796518

>>20795618
It's a stupid frogposter, what were you expecting?

>> No.20796547

>>20796496
Endothermic quadrupeds
Embodied hermeneutics
Emergent machine elves
Emma Watson with a werewolf

>> No.20796594

English is a bad language for poetry I was told. There are a few that I like, but mostly prose seems the best way to express an idea.

>> No.20796607

a poet
is just
a prosodist
with
a sensitive
keyboard
and
tour
ettes

>> No.20796638
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20796638

>>20796594
you do not see

>> No.20796660

>>20796607
Four hundred and forty thousand
Prosodist paratroopers
Per second

>> No.20797880

>>20795615
True free verse poetry is something like Fagles, where there is clear metre but it is not consistent throughout the entire poem. It is a great display of skill and sounds fantastic. Sadly 99.9% of free verse is Rupi Kaur tier filth as you describe.

>> No.20798647

>>20797880
Could you post a little snippey for us?