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20781769 No.20781769 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw as a young intellectual you have to get through 2,500 years of philosophy, history, art and literature within 5 years to formulate a coherent vision for your generation before you get too old and someone else takes your spot and becomes the leader of a movement

how am I supposed to read and absorb D&G in full within the next few years if only now have I finished the theoretical primer on all of philosophy, history etc. and that took me 2 years. and I can't formulate my vision if i'm a pseud who didnt read everything there is to read

>> No.20781785

>>20781769
why don't you just give up?

>> No.20781787

>>20781769
youre too honest for this world

>> No.20781801
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20781801

>>20781769
Seek better ways to gain immortality, become a christcuck or a celeb or go work in a NGO with cat ladies or some shite. It's all the same in the end, a cope from death in the pursuit of significance and immortality.

>> No.20781810

>>20781769
Man why is /lit/ filled with retards. You want to study philosomeme fine just make shit up thats the same thing your professor did.

>> No.20781821

>>20781769
You’re going about it the wrong way nigga you don’t need to read all philosophy to formulate a coherent theory of now

>> No.20781833

>>20781810
>>20781785
I want to achieve the closest approximation of objective Truth yet. An integral theory of everything. It is possible. There are models that are very close to being Correct, the only thing missing is an ideological (political-economic) proposition. I am close to that too, but what I want is to be an actual expert on these things so that my vision is clearly unbeatable rhetorically, and unassailable by the glowies

It's a titanic effort. I still have time but I'm not sure I'm gonna make it. If not now, then never. We are on the track to either make it or suffer for decades in the Dark Ages of the population winter, further clouded by globohomo Hyperreality

ironically it is thanks to this Hyperreality that we are able to see the true, objective Reality for the first time. i fear all the time that someone will beat me to it and fill this gaping niche and coopt the movement because few people with a "power level" this high can remain Good as i do

>> No.20781847

>>20781833
>objective Truth
>being Correct
>globohomo Hyperreality
>glowies
>can remain Good
>true Reality
ngmi

>> No.20781853

The best have already been reading the classics since they were ten years old. They did it because they were curious and precocious, not because they were poseurs who vent on /lit/

>> No.20781860

>>20781853
>have already been reading the classics since they were ten years old.
have such people ever actually come up with anything?

>> No.20781881

>>20781860
Not all young curious kids grow into generation-defining geniuses but all generation-defining geniuses had that curiosity (and natural intelligence and proper environment)

>> No.20781924

>>20781833
I feel you anon, I too want to know the truth. If there was a way I would love to get into contact with you, but alas I don’t think this is the case.

My advice is this: it isn’t about reading all that you can, but reading as much quality content as you can. Why read 50 different books about the interpretation of Aristotle when you can just read Aristotle and a few good commentaries (Porphyryr, Aquinas, Sachs) to get an idea of what he believes?

If you want to learn philosophy, start by reading the major works of a few of the most important and stand out philosophers (Plato/Plotinus, Aristotle, Confuscius, Seneca/Epictetus/Marcus Aurelius, Cicero, Augustine, Boethius, Averroes, Rumi, Thomas Aquinas, Descartes, Spinoza, Locke, Hume, Kant, Hafez, Balmes, Hegel, Marx, Freud, Husserl, Heidegger, Sartre). From these, find which philosophers you trust and believe and then read more of their work, then read from those they influenced or had things in common with, etc. The only people really worth reading are those that say something new and speak the truth; many authors can be disregarded using this criteria.

Schopenhauer has some really good stuff on the intellectual life in some of his essays. If you can find the collection "On Literature" or just a general haphazard collection I highly recommend reading through them as he is a good guide (he also has funny things to say on women).

Good luck anon.

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20781971

>>20781833
Your 'quest' is admirable, if a little naive and stupid. One piece of advice I will give you is this: you're going to be pushing yourself to the mental limit, and in order to reach and sustain yourself at this limit, you might want to make some lifestyle changes that will promote mental health and clarity; simple things like making sure you're getting eight hours of sleep a night (get a sleep mask, get a box fan for white noise and to keep the room cool, get some ear plugs if your environment is loud at night, etc etc), don't watch pornography, and wean yourself off of any addictive video games that might be taking up valuable time. If you want to make some bigger changes (again, with the goal of improved mental health), start doing some light exercise (cardio or lots of walking or jogging; taking long walks was a habit a surprising amount of intellectuals and philosophers had), and fix your diet (it's basically proven at this point the effects your diet has on your mental and emotional well-being. Look up the Mediterranean diet, for example, as a good place to start). If you're serious about this, you should give it your all.

>> No.20782180

>>20781769
yes and yes.
the key words are form and vision though. you needn't study all of them, you just need a coherent view and continuity and as bad as it sounds a way to reduce them, in the case of philosophy and the social sciences, as in relation to whatever you're trying to do. it's all framing and it's always been framing.

and the point at which you realize you're about to be thirty is the cut off. after that you've 'made it' and you have 'time' again to work on things properly.

>> No.20782200

>>20781810
Deleuze once defined a condition of philosophy as the creation of concepts. This is literally it. Be creative, find new ways to express reality.

>> No.20782233

>>20782200
Deluxe was a retard otherwise I would have read him.

>> No.20782898

>>20781769
Reading is just academia bullshit. Just connect yourself to the collective mind and let it speak through you.

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20783030

>>20781769
>formulate a coherent vision for your generation
can you actually give me the biography of any widely read philosopher, who had this kind of goal?
oh, you can't?
try to reorganize your mental life
>>20781810
you haven't met my profs, I think most of them just wanted to pay rent and got while the getting was good
>>20782180
this is a funny post but ultimately realistic because most people reading your shit will not know if you plagiarized Hegel or not, and the miniscule segment that does won't give a shit about that particular issue