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>King James Bible published in 1611 when Shakespeare was 46 years old.
>In Psalm 46, the 46th word from the beginning is "shake" and the 46th word from the end is "spear."
What is the meaning of this?

>> No.20770845

>>20770842
its not true, but grifters assume many people to be too lazy to check it.
they are right, sadly

>> No.20770847

>>20770845
also what grown up man would code his age into the text? your birth year maybe but your age?!
hurrdurr look at me im 46 years old im so special

>> No.20770857

>>20770845
Shakespeare would have been 46 at the beginning of 1611. The 46th word from the beginning of Psalm 46 is clearly "shake" and the 46th from the end is "spear", but only if you don't count the final "Selah," which could be the only thing you're referring to as being untrue.

>> No.20770862

>>20770847
Speaking of age, you have to be at least 18 years old to post on this board.

>> No.20771169

>>20770842
Had a prof show me this back in school with the suggestion that Shakespeare was part of the translating team. Had forgotten about this

>> No.20771292

>>20771169
He could have helped out a bit unofficially or simply been someone's friend or something. Who knows. It would be really bizarre for it to be a complete coincidence though.

>> No.20771559

>>20770857
I don't feel like the 46 is very meaningful here
So then it's more a question of how many times the words, Shake and Spear appears in the Bible

>> No.20771586

>>20771559
I checked and they each appear 46 times
Just kidding, it's 65 and 57

Anyway, I don't think the amount in the entire Bible is meaningful as it was worked on by a committee of a number of different people. If there was going to be something hidden in it it would be more likely to be in a small section like a single book or chapter (or psalm).

>> No.20771630

"Shakespeare" was an inside joke among renaissance bros. You had to be there.

>> No.20771684

>>20771630
I remember those days. Hobbes was always touting around his concept of man in nature liked he lived with the cavemen. he would go outside the town and make an ass out of himself to prove that without society, he, like other people, would turn into primitive monkeys unless the king was there to control him. ended up in gael thousands of times, usually drunk off cider and mumbling incoherently to himself while the prison guards laughed at him. they took pity on him and released him and he'd be back to his old tricks. back in the day, photography didn't exist, and you know how people say "take a picture, it'll last longer" well people told him the same thing but regarding writing, and so he did and everyone read it only for Rousseau a century or two later came to resent this fact and tried to counter his thinking which lead to people losing their minds (literally) to the guillotine. people should have just stuck with good ol' Tommy Hobbes and all this would have been avoided. sigh. I miss those days.

>> No.20771691

>>20770842
Nothing because King James is heretic

>> No.20771710

>most famous English book
>only exists because of a Scots bull
English bros...

>> No.20771909

>>20771586
I mean in the sense of, if they are common words
it's not unlikely they just happen to appear in the same chapter by chance, rather than conspiracy

>> No.20772058

>>20771292
Proceed with the 46 count moving down from shake and up from spear: and Lord. Consider now the full 92 count with respect to the alphabet: 9 = I; 2 = B :
I B:
>I AM
Spooky

>> No.20772082

>>20772058
ebonics is 2 spoopy4me

>> No.20772106

>>20772082
The 92nd psalm accounts for comments such as this, verses 4 and 6 (46) read in tandem:
>4. For thou, Lord, hast made me glad through thy work: I will triumph in the works of thy hands.
>6. A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
Can't say that I'm really all that surprised, anon..

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20772156

>>20770845
what is this gay nigger faggot post?

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20772170

>>20772156
A modern translation should also make it clear why skipping the Selah is fine.

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20772177

>>20771169
>The first edition of the King James Bible, which was edited by Francis Bacon and prepared under Masonic supervision, bears more Mason’s marks than the Cathedral of Strasbourg.
- Manly P. Hall

>> No.20772213

he was actually named shakspear. the e was added when they printed his stuff because by a flaw design putting a k and an s together crushed the wooden letter blocks

>> No.20772222

>>20772177
he fell for the "achsually masons have existed forever and it's not something we retroactively made up to give our group some more cred" meme

>> No.20772224

>>20772213
It was actually Shakespea, after a medieval activity of putting a pea on a fork and shaking it to see how far it will fly off.

>> No.20772250

This is fucking retarded.

>> No.20772278

>>20771909
Or maybe Shakespeare is a pseudonym that he came up with using the bible

>> No.20772291
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20772291

>>20770842
where is his neck?

>> No.20772302

>>20772213
>There are a few extant examples of Shakespeare's actual signature, and as was customary at the time, with spelling being somewhat lax in those pre-standardized days, on at least one occasion he signed it 'Shakspeare', which divides into four and six letters, thus '46'.

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20772316

The curse on his grave is great.

>> No.20772326

>>20772250
They keep a 1st edition KJB open to Psalm 46 at the church where Shakespeare is buried.

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20772396

>>20772326
Sauce? Do they actually?

>> No.20772423

>>20772396
No, this is schizo bullshit.

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20772424

>>20772396
it's there, yes

>> No.20772425

>>20772396
It heard about it in The Secret of Psalm 46 by Brian Moriarty. I found another mention of it here
https://theholidaze.com/the-great-shakespeare-museum-confusion/
>The church also has a glass case with a first edition of the King James Bible from 1611, just before Shakespeare’s death. Apparently it is usually open at Psalm 46

>> No.20772450 [DELETED] 

>>20772213
>>20772302
>/lit/ discovers variable English spelling
Wait till they find out about Scottish English texts

>> No.20772657

>>20772425
>Psalm 46
It's a great psalm; one can hear although perversely the witches' reassurance to the future thane of Cawdor-- MacBeth-- in the first three verses.

>> No.20773117

>>20772424
>>20772425
Impressive. Very nice. Is there any other schizo occult shit hidden in his plays? I just picked up a volume of his complete works for free

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20773267

>>20773117
discerning schizos believe that Sir Francis Bacon was the true author of the works attributed to the shaker of the spear. one such clue might be the highly convoluted 33 repetitions of the word "Francis" found in a single column of the First Folio edition of Henry IV, Part I

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20773279

>>20773267
this era is as aesthetic as it gets

>> No.20773376

>>20770842
in the 1599 Geneva Bible translation shake is 47 and and spear is 44 (not counting selah, but why wouldn't you?). Coincidence seems a sufficient explanation to me.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+46&version=GNV

>> No.20773403

>>20773376
>not counting selah, but why wouldn't you?
Because it's some kind of liturgical mark. See >>20772170

>> No.20773409

>>20773376
also the Geneva bible was originally published in 1560, in case you had another schizo theory about Shakespeare being involved in it.

>> No.20773451

>>20773376
The KJV isn't really a translation from scratch but makes heavy use of previous English versions. And with a project like this, there would have been enough scrutiny that if someone wanted to hide something in the text, it would have to be through innocuous means. A thing like this is about all someone could honestly get away with, seeing a spot where if you shifted the wording just so it would give a neat effect. That doesn't prove anything, but it can't be proved either way to begin with.