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[Anonymous No.20757671]

>bridges the is-ought gap

[Anonymous No.20757677]

>>20757671
Define ought

[Anonymous No.20757741]

>>20757671
Imagine putting Sam in a cell with trump speeches playing on an endless loop at high volume. How long until he breaks? Hours? Minutes?

[Anonymous No.20757767]

A lot to unpack here

[Anonymous No.20757768]

>>20757671
At least he acknowledges that an is-ought gap exists. Neo-scholastics just stick their fingers in their ears and scream when you try and tell them about Hume

[Anonymous No.20757839]

>>20757768
Is the is-ought distinction even a problem for religious people?

[Anonymous No.20757862]

>>20757767
Okay, so...

[Anonymous No.20758034]

>>20757839
>it IS a fact that God says to do something
>you OUGHT to do what God says
If you just say that you ought to do what God says that is just bridging the is-ought gap by fiat and an atheist could easily do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.20758078]

>>20758034
define ought

[Anonymous No.20758090]

>>20757671
>grifting jewish pseud who isn't even smart

[Anonymous No.20758140]

>>20758078
Is-ought gap assumes the existence of oughts. You're right though there is no real argument that morality even exists besides appeal to intuition.

[Anonymous No.20758175]

>>20758140
Right, the concept is poorly defined. The best picture of morality is an axiomatic reliance on preference as the basis for all action. Why do eat? Because I prefer to eat. Why do I sleep? Because I prefer to sleep. Why am I good to other people? Because I prefer to do so. The people who are the loudest proclaimers of objective morality also recognize that by following morality they will end up in heaven, the most preferable place possible. So it is all just preference.

However, the most objective way to look at things is by realizing that we simply evolved to have desires and certain behaviors because these increased survival odds. The desire to exist itself only exists because organisms who have such desires tend to survive better. So at best morality is an internally constructed model, subjective, and ultimately unjustifiable.

[Anonymous No.20758187]

>>20758140
jesus christ. Morality is literally an embedded an idea from the beginning of human consciousness. if its 'an appeal to intuition' than that intuition is there for a reason. like all weird social things humans do, morality drives the ability to thrive within a social setting, even if its non human socializing. if you leep doing good things for yourself and people around you you are rewarded, if you keep doing bad things to yourself or others you are punished. its clearly a development of socialization rather than, as youre putting, an appeal to our own monologue. the human brain, and ESPECIALLY consciousness, are effected by experience of environment. this can happen on a meta level, like socialization.

[Anonymous No.20758192]

>>20758187
Morality is social game theory, we get it

[Anonymous No.20758425]

>>20757671
>doesn’t understand Nietzsche and refuses to read him
>thinks morality can be derived from science

[Anonymous No.20758436]

Here's a simple solution: stop playing jewish language games

[Anonymous No.20758694]

Saying you ought to have sex is true on a more fundamental level than saying the sky is blue. You only perceive the sky as blue because you ought to have sex.