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Are there any literary villains that reach the same menace as the Judge? Anonymous Tue Jul 26 23:57:20 2022 No.20741130 [Reply] [Original]

Anton Chigurh and Boris The Manskinner also

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 26 23:59:32 2022 No.20741148 >>20741130 Type candle and jack together.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:01:42 2022 No.20741159 >>20741148 Too risky anon, you know what happened to the last person who said Candlejack on this bo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:30:16 2022 No.20741262 >>20741130 >Menace Iago othello

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:48:59 2022 No.20741329 Wolf Larsen

Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:53:17 2022 No.20741346
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>>20741130
I have no idea anon. Cormac McCarthy is a master at crafting these terrifying unbeatable villains.
>>20741262
I’m a midwit, can you or anyone else explain to me what makes Iago such a compelling villain? I liked him but I didn’t get the same terror that Harold Bloom got when he read him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:55:53 2022 No.20741356 >>20741130 Pierce Invararity

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:56:56 2022 No.20741362 >>20741130 the chick from East of Eden

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 00:58:20 2022 No.20741368 File: 385 KB, 930x1335, 115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Head Doctor of TG University Hospital

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:01:30 2022 No.20741374 >>20741362 >kate >villain

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:03:12 2022 No.20741378 File: 61 KB, 250x329, 89_Years_Old.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20741368

Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:04:20 2022 No.20741380

>>20741346
I think it's because Iago's reasons are obscure. He's a well crafted example of human malice since often it's extremely cunning but ultimately pointless. That men of great intellect will overthrow an empire for the mere chance to eat a baby's toe could exist would terrify someone like Bloom.
>>20741130
Is the judge menacing without the Glanton gang? Is he anything at all without the Glanton gang? Most of his speeches are made to darkly edify them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:48:55 2022 No.20741550 >>20741130 Yes, Eren Yeager from AOT

>>	Sage Wed Jul 27 01:50:20 2022 No.20741556 >>20741148 Come on man nobody believes in that creepypasta shit, Candlejack isn’t re

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:58:37 2022 No.20741617 >>20741130 check out my diary desu the villain is society

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 01:59:54 2022 No.20741627 >>20741556 Another one bites the dust.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:03:44 2022 No.20741653 >>20741374 genuinely interested in your take

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:06:45 2022 No.20741665 >>20741130 God in the OT

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:07:50 2022 No.20741668 >>20741665 bible isn't literature

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:09:15 2022 No.20741673 File: 705 KB, 1796x638, FC523001-49B5-4B60-B34F-DA13B03C67AB.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sam in Call of the Arcade

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:09:19 2022 No.20741674 If you are talking about "menace", then unironically lovecraftian gods, since canonically they are so menacing they'll make you insane, although of course that's only in universe

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:10:44 2022 No.20741679 >>20741378 i don't understand wut he's talking about

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:11:10 2022 No.20741683 >>20741673 piss of

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 02:20:43 2022 No.20741775 >>20741380 the glanton gang are nothing without him

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 03:52:15 2022 No.20742254 File: 705 KB, 1796x638, E809CAAF-E778-4436-82E3-02D97622A629.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sam in Call of the Arcade

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 03:54:23 2022 No.20742265 >>20741130 I really didn’t find the judge that scary or terrifying. Hell glanton terrifies me more. The judge is literal learned bro who rapes sometimes and dances so fucking what

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 05:36:05 2022 No.20742628 >>20741380 Interesting stuff regarding Iago anon, I’ll have to re-read Othello. Seems like one of those works I didn’t appreciate my first time through.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 05:50:52 2022 No.20742661 >>20742254 Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 05:59:05 2022 No.20742676 >>20741668 then why is it on /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 06:05:21 2022 No.20742691 >>20741665 OT is scary as fuck. Imagine not being able to please a demented god

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 09:22:25 2022 No.20743198 >>20741775 Without them he is nothing but a maniac. Without him they are directionless savages. Perhaps combined these two things are so, but more than likely they are moieties of the same whole. The dark human spirit, and the dark human material.

Anonymous Wed Jul 27 09:27:58 2022 No.20743209

>>20742628
It's quite good. Take notice how at the beginning Iago, a lot like a devil, stands in the shadow of another man's discontent and grows out of it. Like the judge, can human 'evil' act alone, or does it always require some base flesh? I find it interesting to note that both Iago and the Judge have a close, but pathetic lackey, Iago with Rogrigo, the Judge with the idiot.

I suggest reading the Faust stories and Moby Dick to further see this dynamic in play. Faust is probably the most blatant example, but you'll notice a similar dynamic between Ahab and Fedallah.

Another interesting thing to note is that all these dark influencers are chiefly concerned not with the seizing of fate itself, but rather speaking that they have knowledge of fate.

Anonymous Wed Jul 27 12:37:15 2022 No.20743748

>>20741346
To add to this exchange on Iago I would note that it is his seeming friendly counsel combined with his ruthless passion for Othello's destruction that makes him such a superior villain. Imagine if one of your own, closest, friends held, secretly, such a violent desire for your downfall, and was prepared to use an incredible intelligence to action this desire.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 14:53:41 2022 No.20744355 >>20741556 Stop fucking LARPing. He dosent exist and the Candlejack meme is shi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 20:39:34 2022 No.20745964 >>20742254 Good answer. I liked how much of a manchild he was.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 21:00:43 2022 No.20746037 >>20742691 So is he in Revelation. If anything, God's mercy and grace is just as breathtaking in the Old Testament but there's a false dichotomy between the two parts because people either dont read or dont see what actually happened.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 21:14:57 2022 No.20746079 >>20741130 Wolf Larsen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 27 21:17:19 2022 No.20746090 >>20742254 fuck off your books sucks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 00:42:44 2022 No.20746930 >>20741380 >Is he anything at all without the Glanton gang? You've got the power structure the wrong way around. The gang is nothing without the Judge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 01:17:38 2022 No.20747078 >>20742254 Sam was actually the main reason I read the rest of Horror’s Call. He was by far the most curious character.

Anonymous Thu Jul 28 01:32:45 2022 No.20747130

Not menacing per se, but I have never found a villain I detested as thoroughly as Ellsworth Toohey. His corruption of altruistic endeavors for no reason beyond his own spite is just incredibly well written. I honestly wonder if it's how Rand viewed all charity organizations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 03:06:22 2022 No.20747499 >>20742628 Iago BTFOs Milton’s Satan

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 03:08:00 2022 No.20747506 File: 70 KB, 800x800, 1630139892484.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20741148 Candlejack. Is there a problem?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 09:52:46 2022 No.20748652 >>20741130 Yes, Eren Yeager from AOT

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