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The world would be better off if schools still taught Flannery O'Connor. They don’t anymore because Flannery was born poor, sickly, southern, and her books use the nigger word. Read her if you like dark southern gothic tales with a spine grounded in Catholic morals.

>> No.20729877
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>Catholic morals

>> No.20729881

>>20729873
I teach her to my 11th Grade class.

>> No.20729884

>>20729877
t. Ernest Cline fan

>> No.20729893

>>20729884
Uncalled for, anon. Moderate your insults.

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>>20729884
Nope, try Carson McCullers.

And for the record newfag, you're supposed to greentext the t., otherwise you are talking about yourself.

>> No.20729904

>>20729895
McCullers is the Murakami of southern lit. Wrote like she was ashamed of her own accent. I can’t sanction it.

>> No.20729917

>>20729904
That's like when poor people are proud of being poor- it's gross. She knew how awful the south was and depicted it as such. I don't see the problem.

>> No.20729935

they read flannery o'conner at yale, maybe you should go to better schools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjplQUPhES4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzAb8FyIis

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>>20729935
Not for much longer.

>> No.20730012

>>20729917
Post med shelf, troon.

>> No.20730063

>>20730002
I might be bothered a little less by people who get mad at historical figures if they ever actually bothered to learn a little history first.

>> No.20730066

>>20729873
>The world would be better off if schools still taught Flannery O'Connor
I had to read one of her short stories in my first year of college, so they definitely do

>> No.20730141

She’s widely taught in undergrad programs and she’s widely respected.

>> No.20730155

>>20730141
You neglected to mention that she's also very wide

>> No.20730177

>>20729873
I read her short stories in a high school literature course and her novel was frequently mentioned in an undergrad philosophy course I took. Your experience of (possibly) graduating from a single American high school does not empower you to speak on behalf of American public schools at large.

>> No.20730208

>>20729884
Who?

>> No.20730214

Parker's heart began to beat faster and faster until it appeared to be roaring inside him like great generator. He flipped the pages quickly, feeling that when he reached the one ordained, a sign would come. He continued to flip through until he had almost reached the front of the book. On one of the pages a pair of eyes glanced at him swiftly. Parker sped on, then stopped. His heart too appeared to cut off; there was absolute silence. It said as plainly as if silence were a language itself, GO BACK.

>> No.20730272

>>20730002
The naivete of people about the South is really disappointing. You grow up in a world with strict class boundaries and people outside of it somehow expect you to upend everything each generation. It is like that with India's caste system people still bitch and moan about it. Thing that people have to understand is writers like Faulkner and Hurston got from the Old South because they thought it'd be nice for blacks to have their own houses with electricity. Now the latter I know didn't really care about integration at all but O'Connor actually did for religious reasons as it reflected heaven and dissolved differences between people somewhat on principle like she wrote in the "Artificial Nigger" where Atlanta represents heaven and to understand grace is to understand the desperate desire for grace of people unlike you.
O'Connor still didn't want to be around blacks in general but it is in the kind of Romans 7 attitude of look this is just the way things are on earth, we have to look past hypocrisy and look towards the kingdom. I think it's wild because To Kill a Mockingbird is still a big deal yet at least when we discussed it in my southern school the point wasn't "raciss bad" but more nuanced about principles mattering more to the point that bigotry wasn't the crux of the story at all.

>> No.20730393

>>20730012
muh derailing threads

>>20730272
You are making generalisations about a vast group of people. Excusing the racism of O'Connor and Faulkner because it was a southern tradition to lynch niggers is ignoring writers like Lillian Smith and Carson McCullers who were able to embrace racial equality while living deep in the south.

It wasn't like O'Connor was just a bit edgy as well- she was outspoken with her racism even in the deep south.

>> No.20730411

I read Wise Blood in high school because our teacher recommended us A Good Man Is Hard to Find. Don’t remember shit, though.

>> No.20730540

She cute

>> No.20730558 [DELETED] 

>>20730393
Kill yourself you fucking nigger loving faggot.

>> No.20730565

>>20730393
> She was outspoken about her racism blahblah

and? her works are great who gives a fuck

>> No.20730570

>>20730393
Stfu, fag, Carson spent most of her life in NYC and only intermittently in Georgia after turning 17

>> No.20730572

>>20729873
>Catholic morals
Like serial killing, the art of murdering hard-working immigrants, how to marry and abandon a mentally disabled girl in order to steal her mother's car, or how to steal a wooden leg (in one easy lesson?

Those morals?

>> No.20730577

>>20730393
Remember when you used to post your med shelf for attention whenever anyone requested that from you?

>> No.20730619

>>20730572
these are in her stories? gotta read them now

>> No.20730623

>>20730619
Enjoy, anon. She’s leagues better than McCullcuckers

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>>20730558
>>20730565
>>20730570
>>20730577

>> No.20730675

>>20729873
I read O’Connor in high school

>> No.20730715

>>20730675
And here you are, posting on 4chan. Seems like OP's suggestion is useless.

>> No.20730722

>>20730002
It’s funny the stories of hers I’ve read were extremely woke.

>> No.20730769

>>20730572
[The stories alluded to here are, respectively: A Good Man is Hard to Find, The Displaced Person, The Life You Save May Be Your Own, Good Country People.]

>> No.20730983

>>20730722
She is a deceptive woman

>> No.20731005

>>20729873
I read "Good Country People" in an undergraduate English class which turned me on to her. I am old so that was about 10 years ago. Sad if true that she isn't taught anymore. I loved the story so much I ended up eventually reading everything else she wrote (besides her letters). Wise Blood is amazing.

>>20729895
You can like your favorite author without dissing my bby girl Flannery. Also idk why it's a barrier for you that she's Catholic. I'm not religious and I adored her even while I was going through my cringey "edgy atheist" phase.

>> No.20731024

>>20729873
she's the best short story writer the states have ever produced but I'm pretty sure they still teach Good Country People in american high schools, at least in the northeast

>> No.20731042

>>20730722
not even remotely

>> No.20731133

Rayber was woke af (if only Tarwater could have followed his exampled...).

>> No.20731186

I'm from the south and have literally never heard of any of these writers. None of it's taught anymore

>> No.20731328

>>20731186
they still assign kate chopin regularly cuz she has a bunch of short stories that even the most brain addled zoomer can get through.

>> No.20731441

>>20731186
yeah no idea what these olds are talking about

>> No.20731514

>>20731186
>not capitalizing South
Carpetbagging Yankee scum detected

>> No.20731566

>>20731514
Capitalizes yankee
>ngmi

>> No.20731619

>>20729895
She looks like she could be related to Gianna Michaels

>> No.20731626

>>20731619
Isn't that a porn star?

>> No.20732401

>>20731619
Gross

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>>20729877
>t.atheist morality

>> No.20732569

>>20732494
I'm not an atheist you nonce

>> No.20732734

>>20731186
>>20731441
How the fuck did ye end up on a lit board?

>> No.20732967

>>20729935
i always wanted to edit clips of her videos into her saying lewd things

>> No.20733066

>>20729917
>She knew how awful the south was and depicted it as such
You literally can't even begin to understand her work then if that's what you think, dumb n*rtherner

>> No.20733148

>>20730572
b8

>> No.20733152 [DELETED] 

>>20732967
do it
have her say "a good cock is hard to find"

>> No.20733161

>>20730715
kek

>> No.20733168

>>20732967
"A hard man is good to find"

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>>20733168
Indeed

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Threadly reminder that this this the Carson McCullers-cum-Sally Troony-cum-Ducks, Newburyshart troon who tries to derail every thread when you do le heckin wrongthink

>> No.20733221

>>20733206
I think you're more mentally ill than me anon. My posts itt have stayed on topic- (You) are the one derailing things.

But please keep giving me attention; it makes me feel important uwu.

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>>20733221
>mentally ill shitposting
>on-topic
Maybe you should get back on your meds, bud

>> No.20733247

>>20733225
Is pic related?

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>>20733247
>Mentally ill troon shits up every thread at the slightest hint of O’Connor
Part and parcel. Does it make you mad that O’Connor will always be a woman unlike you even if she had a debilitating physical illness?

>> No.20733265

>>20733260
Yeah, I don't like her as a writer, so I criticise her. What about that is off topic?

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>>20733265
Still posting in your little discord groups to derail threads, troon?

>> No.20733279

>>20733265
Every O’Connor thread in the archive is you invariably trooning out by whinging that she is a “horrible racist” and that is your little schtick. That’s all you fixate on since you even conceded you did not even understand Wise Blood

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>>20733279

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>>20733273
That's just my book club I run with my friends.

Still open btw, new members always welcome.

https://discord.gg/qNHN8K2PP8

>> No.20733293

>>20733265
the problem is that you spam every thread about her and blogpost frequently. Learn to shut up

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>>20733287
Where’s your degree from, piggy?

>> No.20733965

Bump

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>>20729873
Arriving today. Watched this fruity lil niggas presentation about her and was intrigued.
https://youtu.be/TTp-Ohh9hqg
Pretty excited as I am poorly educated and had never heard of her before /lit/

>> No.20734784

>>20734010
Fuck yeah

>> No.20734871

>>20733148
Yeah, but accurate, and for a good cause.

>> No.20735270

>>20729877
Yes.

>> No.20736075

Kek this thread

>> No.20736093

>hey there's an escaped killer. wow. scary. road-trip.
>hey pull over into that side road off the highway
>wow, crash. oops
>oh wow, a car has come to save us
>omg it's THE KILLER
>i forgib you
>kills everyone
>the end

This was so deep. The pinnacle of Christian short stories.

>> No.20736105

>>20736093
Perfectly captures the depth of McCuckers

>> No.20736117

>>20736105
cormac mccarthy more like reddit mcsharty. seen that nigger in an airport. wow so fuckin deep airport lit