Ray Bradbury interview

[Anonymous No.20724696]

>How does the story of Fahrenheit 451 stand up in 1994?
>R.B.: It works even better because we have political correctness now. Political correctness is the real enemy these days. The black groups want to control our thinking and you can't say certain things. The homosexual groups don't want you to criticize them. It's thought control and freedom of speech control.
Was he right?

[Anonymous No.20724712]

>>20724696
About what?

[Anonymous No.20724752]

>>20724696
yes

[Anonymous No.20724755]

>>20724712
About negroes and faggots wanting to control our speech and thinking through political influence.

[Anonymous No.20724775]

>>20724696
>Was he right?
no

[Anonymous No.20724800]

Everything people said about political correctness back then is the same now. Even the same groups are aligned (jews feminists blacks gays vs religious right, neocons, and radfems). It never changed, lmao.

[Anonymous No.20724802]

>>20724696
>The black groups want to control our thinking and you can't say certain things. The homosexual groups don't want you to criticize them. It's thought control and freedom of speech control.
Idk how anyone could disagree with this. Even if you think it's a good thing, it's obviously happening.

[Anonymous No.20724806]

>books good
>tv bad
Fuck this guy

[Anonymous No.20724812]

>>20724806
t. /tv/ faggot

[Anonymous No.20724841]

>>20724806
he's right, television is an absolute dogshit medium, it's irredeemably bad

[Anonymous No.20724855]

He’s wrong. It’s not just one side or faction controlling speech and thought. Memetic warfare is being employed by all sides. People get to choose which echo chamber they’d like to be in.

[Anonymous No.20724864]

>>20724841
but Dekalog is kino

[Anonymous No.20724865]

>>20724855
oh shut the fuck up you gaslighting tranny. i suppose youre a 'rebel' too, right? totally not the mainstream and you totally dont get paid to spew your revolting poison while the rest of us get put in jail or lose or jobs for saying no.

[Anonymous No.20724915]

>>20724865
See this unintelligible garbage? This is the consequence of hyper polarization. The death of discourse.

[Anonymous No.20725032]

>>20724915
you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.20725050]

>>20724696
Yeah he was right even then. The 90s wasn't really that great as young kids think it was

[Anonymous No.20725284]

>>20725050
correct. the canon wars happened in the 90s and the evil side won.

[Anonymous No.20725301]

>>20725050
I think popular music was at its lowest during that decade

[Anonymous No.20725384]

>>20724915
>akshhually people can say n*gg*r in the darkest corners of internet, so there is akssually freedom of speech.

[Anonymous No.20725482]

>>20724696
Have there been any actual critiques of these things that didn't start or end as racist or homophobic? Strangely enough, one of the best critiques of "blacks" was a Youtube video titled 'Ban Niggers' which went into, well, banning niggers because they bring down the black folk. There was a time when people like Malcolm X and Huey Newton were popular (in certain circles) and admirable men who were great role models for young black people. The majority of the Black Panthers and others like them were actually good for the black community and not only helped their communities (despite state intervention to the contrary as when the BP had set up to make sure all, and not just black, kids in their community in Chicago would get a good breakfast and interaction and the day before it was to officially start CPD officers went in and literally pissed in everything) but sought to keep rights for them and others. Remember, the state thought gun ownership was fine until the darkies exercised their rights.

Now, I do think nigger culture is horrible. The glorification of nigger culture is even worse, and it's a self-perpetuating but also outside influenced problem. So, ban niggers. Thug niggers. Give the young folk something to actually aspire to that helps others instead of races towards material assets and early death due to pointless gang wars that only destroy.

[Anonymous No.20725496]

>>20725050
Nah, the 90s were pretty good.

[Anonymous No.20725500]

>>20725482
You make a salient point, however, considering black culture is external locus of control in essence, it lacks personal responsibility and will resort to lamenting racism for failure.

[Anonymous No.20725506]

>>20724696
OP is a fag

[Anonymous No.20725521]

>>20725506
t. thought-controlling niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.20725545]

>>20725521
Bitching about how people stop consuming people who get paid millions to influence billions of people including children because they don't like them and saying there's a dictotarship because people don't like you to be mean, even though there are thousands of people in the internet who are literally fascists and you can say literally whatever you want irl

[Anonymous No.20725901]

>>20725500
There is a lot of truth to a cause being racism, though. It shouldn't be discarded simply because of other issues.

[Anonymous No.20726006]

>>20725545
>you can say literally whatever you want irl
You can't. That's the thing.

[Anonymous No.20726020]

>>20725384
>so there is akssually freedom of speech.
Another consequence of hyper polarization. The death of reading comprehension. It forces everything to exist within a binary. You either do exactly as I do, or you are the enemy.

[Anonymous No.20726022]

If you criticized the Iraq war in the states and went on tv you basically had to have a baseball bat with you when you went to your car.

[Anonymous No.20726032]

>>20726006
You can, that's the thing, like it's the first time people have looked down on retards and fags who say shit, you can literally say whatever you want, most people are completely retarded and don't give two fucks about all of this

[Anonymous No.20726037]

>>20725384
Why do you want to say nigger?

[Anonymous No.20726041]

>>20726032
No, you can't say anything you want. You could lose your job and future opportunities if you go against the script.

[Anonymous No.20726042]

>>20724696
if only he knew how bad things really got and will continue to got

[Anonymous No.20726046]

>>20726006
Does your mouth stop working when you try to say a specific word or something?

[Anonymous No.20726047]

>>20726037
why not?

[Anonymous No.20726051]

>>20726041
>this is a robbery
>put your fucking hands up and put the money in the bag

[Anonymous No.20726071]

>>20724915
>posts a meme from a board that got deleted because they made fun of troons

[Anonymous No.20726081]

>>20726071
do you not see how that proves my point

[Anonymous No.20726083]

>>20726022
Burgers are psychos. Every civilised person knows this.

[Anonymous No.20726088]

>>20726041
Before you lost your job and future opportunities if you "went" against the script. (As in being a homosexual, or not white). And also that's because you guys don't have socialism, sucks to be american

[Anonymous No.20726097]

>>20726047
Because faggots say nigger
From your answer i assume you also wnt to say "I am a closeted homosexual and I like to fuck my mom in the ass very hard until she gets a little milk on her shirt" for no particular reason

[Anonymous No.20726103]

>>20726042
>if only he knew how bad things really got and will continue to got
Why do you guys want to say things when you can't even speak english? Honest question

[Anonymous No.20726104]

>>20726088
>everyone is american
??

[Anonymous No.20726105]

>>20726104
We know you're Brazilian, buddy.

[Anonymous No.20726108]

>>20726097
seething monkey

[Anonymous No.20726110]

>>20726104
I didn't say everyone was american I thought you were, if you aren't that doesn't really affect my argument, but I do apologize for calling you that

[Anonymous No.20726113]

>>20726110
apology accepted

[Anonymous No.20726118]

>>20726108
Cope and seethe fren, cope and seethe

[Anonymous No.20726126]

>>20726113
We got the happy ending :D

[Anonymous No.20726138]

>>20724915
I misread your post. I thought you were refering to the post above yours. But I still don't understand your point. /qa/ was that way for a reason you get "hyperpolarized" from discussion. Discourse occurred and "hyperpolarization" was the result.

[Anonymous No.20726167]

>>20726088
>anyone else has socialism

Um burger alarm??

[Anonymous No.20726170]

Why didn't he want Fahrenheit 451 released as an ebook? I always thought that was oddly hipocrical of him. Wasn't one of the points that the physical book doesn't matter its about the retention of knowledge. Isn't that why the one guy memorizes the Bible?

[Anonymous No.20726197]

>>20726103
do you think perhaps I was making a funny for one second?

[Anonymous No.20726207]

>>20726118
cope n

[Anonymous No.20726224]

>>20726170
Ray Bradbury was a bibliophile. He probably didn't want any of his books sold as ebooks.

[Anonymous No.20726226]

>>20725384
>the darkest corners of internet
Get a fucking grip, you victim complex faggot.

[Anonymous No.20726268]

>>20726167
Didn't say that, I mean *I* have. I don't even know what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.20726273]

>>20726197
Nope sorry my fault

[Anonymous No.20726292]

>>20726138
>But I still don't understand your point. /qa/ was that way for a reason you get "hyperpolarized" from discussion. Discourse occurred and "hyperpolarization" was the result.
Exactly. Discussion, if left alone, will tend towards the two largest points of view subsuming the others. From this position there is only one way to proceed. Each side will become more and more extreme in an attempt to overcome the other. Your opponent does not just disagree with you, he is your enemy, he is trying to kill you, he is trying to destroy everything you love, and you must attack him now, before he does the same. And as for anyone who does not agree with you, well, they're enemies as well. You must not be a social democrat, you must be Marxist. You cannot be a neo-con, you must be fascist.

/qa/ and basedjacking are a perfect microcosm of this. Relatively civil discussion quickly devolves into shitflinging contest of ACKjacks vs Chudjacks. This is where I think Farenheit 451 gets it right, in comparison to something like 1984. The people (as a group) are ultimately responsible for this. Their own human nature causes the dystopia, and not some external force.

[Anonymous No.20726397]

>>20726292
If the discussion was left alone people would have eventually got bored. It wasn't ever left alone people constantly fanned the flames. One side just wanted to be left alone it didn't have to end up like this :(

[Anonymous No.20726535]

>>20726397
>One side just wanted to be left alone it didn't have to end up like this :(
Both sides say this. You don't seem to get it.

[Anonymous No.20726556]

>>20726535
I'm just failing to see why tranny shit needed to be spammed on an apolitical shitposting board in the first place.

[Anonymous No.20726597]

>>20726556
>why do people spam shit on a basically unmoderated imageboard
they do it because they can

[Anonymous No.20726650]

>>20726597
I got banned anytime I attempted to post basedjaks outside of /qa/.