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To destroy the body as the way to sever one's relation with this
world is another motive behind certain cases of religious suicide.
Under this category, the following are worthy of mention.
Monk Fa-k'uang (d. 633), a native of Hsien-yang (in present
Shensi province), "had an uncommon moral integrity in his youth.
He was more inclined to the Confucian ideals of conduct." Some
years later, when he became a monk, he used to live strictly
according to the monastic discipline. He often said: "Only because
of birth and death am I involved in the endless wheel of transmigration." He therefore "constantly felt dissatisfaction and
wished to abandon [his body]. On the twenty-first day of the
second month of the seventh year of the Chen-kuan period (April
5, 633), he entered into the Chung-nan mountain. When he arrived
at a place about forty li inside the Charcoal Valley (T'an-ku), he
hung his clothes on a tree, cut his throat," and thus ended his life
in this world.24
There was an anonymous monk of Fen-chou (in present Shansi
province) who "disliked birth and death. It was difficult for him
to pass days in this evil world, so he vowed that he would abandon
his body. At first, he gradually limited his food and took incense.
When the occasion of his meeting death came, monks and laymen
were assembled. Incense, flowers, banners, and umbrellas [were
offered to him] and arrangements were made for his escort.
People followed him to the Tzu-hsia-hsiieh cliff. At the top of
the cliff, the monk faced towards the west, with a solemn
expression on his face. People sang 'Hail, hail!' as a farewell to him
for his happiness. The monk then let his body fall from the overhanging cliff. After he had fallen to the ground below the cliff, he
was found in a sitting posture. When people rushed to see him,
they found that he had already passed away." 25
Another example concerns two sister-nuns of Ching-chou (in
present Hupeh province), who "read the Lotus Sutra together and
deeply disliked their bodies." Both of them therefore burned themselves to death in the same flame after performing religious
ceremonies.26

>> No.20721664

Source?

>> No.20721704

>>20721048
This is literally me, I shot myself with a 5 watt laser on my hand and a year later 7 small dot scars are still visible. Also I had surgery on my ballsack to remove fluid like Edward Gibbon, I have literally transcended my attachment to my body and my scars is complete and utter proof that I literally do not care at all about my body. I really do not. I only weigh 200 pounds.

>> No.20721713

Based, image being happy in this world

>> No.20721718

I NEED THE SOURCE WHAT'S THE SOURCE AAAA

>> No.20721744
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>>20721048
Based beyond belief

>> No.20721750

Legends say that chandragupta also killed himself that way

>> No.20721941

>>20721048
>>Another example concerns two sister-nuns of Ching-chou (in
>present Hupeh province), who "read the Lotus Sutra together and
>deeply disliked their bodies." Both of them therefore burned themselves to death in the same flame after performing religious
>ceremonies.26
yes chink bugs never understood buddhism.
Also the buddha said only fully enlightened people may kill themselves

>> No.20722089

If you unironically hate your God-given flesh, you are mentally ill.

>> No.20722112

>>20722089
Why?

>> No.20722135

What are some books that illustrate this topic? I want to be inspired to detach myself from my body.

>> No.20722145

"Oh young anon, clinging to death is an attachment. You cannot escape the cycle with such a strong negative emotion of life and yourself. You have much to learn about the dharma dear student. Farewell." Thus spoke the Buddha to the 4channer.

>> No.20722148

>>20722145
I am drowning without clinging you stupid old faggot.

>> No.20722162

>>20722145
Devaluation of the body is a common theme in the suttas.

>>20722089
It's the other way around.

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>> No.20722229

>>20721664
>>20721718
Better learn how to use Google

>> No.20722269

>>20722194
Jesus, where's this from?

>> No.20722272

>>20722269
Better learn how to use Google

>> No.20722276

>>20722272
Yeah, nevermind, I've got Temptation of St. Anthony sitting on my shelf and it really is time I read it.

>> No.20722367

>>20721744
Who is everyone in the middle and right columns except Schopenhauer?

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>>20721664
>>20722135
>>20722229
>>20721718
https://sci-hub.se/https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/462506

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=BE1752D11331FA1234CB38BFBED7B7A1

>> No.20722674

>>20722135
https://archive.org/details/104775752-satyasiddhisastra-of-harivarman/page/3/mode/2up

>> No.20722681

All those people with uncontrolled sensuality,
not free of lust, enjoying sensual pleasures in this life:
again and again, they return to birth and old age;
those who go with the stream are sunk in craving.

So a wise one in this life, with mindfulness established,
doesn’t take part in sensual pleasures and bad deeds.
In pain they’d give up sensual pleasures:
they call that person ‘one who goes against the stream’.

Someone who’s given up five corruptions,
a perfect trainee, not liable to decline,
who’s mastered their mind, with faculties immersed in samādhi,
that’s called ‘a steadfast person’.

The sage who has comprehended all things, high and low,
cleared them and ended them, so they are no more;
they’ve completed the spiritual journey, and gone to the end of the world,
they’re called ‘one who has gone beyond’.”

Anusota Sutta AN 4.5

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>>20722194
>>20722269
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52225

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>>20721048
The Fuck Rate.
The Worm.
https://youtu.be/jiegso1JQWw

>> No.20722866

>>20722089
It’s the result of nihilism, the feeling that this world is in an inescapable problem.

>> No.20722882

>>20722866
No, it is pessimism. Nihilism is just a code word for atheism. Nihilism did not exist before the atheist revolutions a few centuries ago.

>> No.20723558

>>20722866
>>20722882
buddhism is not nihilism;
If nothing really matters why would the buddhists do their practices, develop different philosophical systems and try to change their current state to something better, to liberate themselves?

and its not pessimism, because they have a goal (nirvana) which is regarded as something 'positive' and worth attaining.

>>20722194
this is christianity btw

>> No.20723602

>>20723558
>goal
That's an attachment. You will cope by saying that this goal will quench the thirst for all goals. But then I would point you to >>20722145 and you will say that you will be reincarnated in that case but if people don't remember what happened in their pervious life then why anyone should give a shit about reincarnation?

>> No.20723648

>>20723602
>what the fuck you can't just posit fundamentally different metaphysical and cosmological premises from mine!
Yes I can. Also

>if people don't remember what happened in their pervious life then why anyone should give a shit about reincarnation?
They do.

>>20722866
Correct, and it's the reason why Christian monasticism is so absurd. The solution of course is to stop regarding life as a problem to be solved at all.

>> No.20723668

>>20723648
>They do.
Bullshit, the evidence is always kook shit

>>20722866
>>20723648
Nihilism is a meaningless term.

>> No.20723683

>>20723668
Who cares what you believe? We're talking about Buddhism. Buddhists believe in memories of past lives (plural, it's not just your previous life). Why should you care about your next life? Because it's going to fucking suck if you don't.

>B-B-B-B-BUT YOU JUST SAID "your"!
Fine, the life that some portion of what you will be at the time of your death will go on to help constitute for some portion of time.

>> No.20723688

>>20723602
i was expecting this kind of response
this just shows the problem and the limits of language, that's why it's good to just practice and be silent (like the Buddha many times)

to speak of a 'goal' is more of a theravada thing, mahayana metaphysics doesn't let you get into this problem, because of non-duality there's no distinction between samsara and nirvana

>> No.20723831

>>20721941
Why would you practice wrong speech?

>> No.20723834

>>20722882
>>20723558
>>20723648
>>20723668
Spengler was right. It is just Indian nihilism.

>> No.20723844

>>20723558
If nothing matters, why would Nietzsche come up with his insane ramblings? It’s all the same nihilist problem at it’s core. I suspect Nietzsche and Buddha are analogous across cultures, but both are just nihilists at heart.

>> No.20723848

>>20723844
>>20723834
retards

>> No.20723853

>>20723844
The Buddha is rather pragmatic. He claims to have found unconditioned, endless happiness, and have also found a way to teach it.

>> No.20723854

>>20723834
fr bruh g. have you heard about sky burial and Jalasamadhi(suicide by drowning)?