Certified /lit/ classics

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20703888]

I’ll start.

[Anonymous No.20703959]

[Anonymous No.20703973]

>>20703888
Hippity pippity pop
Hickory dickory dock

[Anonymous No.20704035]

>>20703888
where can i find that bad boy?

[Anonymous No.20704047]

>>20704035
I stole several copies from Frater's house last night if you want one. I also stole his trip and will begin posting CP in approximately 45 minutes.

[Anonymous No.20704072]

>>20704047
>high pitched male voice, like im about to say NOOOOO NOT THE HECK- -IN -ERINO
NOOO!!!

[Anonymous No.20704109]

>>20704072
just to be clear the CP was already saved ONTO FRATER'S COMPUTER

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704118]

>>20704109
If you’re gonna post it, I may as well just post my favourite SFW stuff.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704559]

>>20704118
Hey bro bro you do a pretty fine imitation, though the loli posting and shilling of post modernism is unlike me, I also don’t really critique using feet since I prefer dividing into syllables and keeping em more divided, fun stuff though!

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704687]

You know OP, if you really did read it and you liked it, and even if you’re playing around since you’re posting some of my poetry, thanks anon, I appreciate that you liked the stuff enough to play around, I know I come off egotistical but, I really do feel rather shy about my verse and the only reason I post so much is I always want refinement of it, if any of you anons do want to read the book I’ll just link the libgen where I uploaded it to, no offense taken OP.

[Anonymous No.20704703]

Is there a real frater? None sound like him.

[Anonymous No.20704713]

>>20704703
he hasn't been here in months

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704714]

>>20704703
I can verify that
>>20704687
This one is me by just posting some poetry that I’ve not posted on the board.

Here’s an excerpt from a longer poem. (You can also just notice he doesn’t do my characteristic long posting.)

the amazing way phrasings arranging
the rage blazing stays changing weight swaying
the sage stating aged sayings awaiting
the face gazing strange tracings prays praising
the ancient of days with statements that stray
with the rays of his grace, each displays
in maze arrayed the range is parading
in a pageant all the transient masquerading
masking with fading as fragments his garments the
calves that charm as gold, avatars metamorphose;
ouroboros sword-hold-lord rose more so poured gold,
golden glory greatly given gorgeously,
fell fiends falsely foisoned falling flawlessly,
hoary honored heaven heave horrid hymns
lovely lilted leaping like lordly limbs.

come stranger, fly the grove and the moor
past the eye that is door to the mind, come stranger,
alcove and the shrine, libations I pour,
hypogeum or fane i pour all the same, come stranger,
glow the runes with your boon as a jewel,
bright as the dew, of the cold, fruitless moon, come stranger.

i saw once in a dream a dark scorpion,
and yet a scorpion it was not, abominable,
for its body was the mangled flesh of many men,
like rope knotted, a great flattened face was its body,
like rope knotted, its pincher was the pounding of the fleshen heads of men,
like rope knotted, bone twisted like metal rebar,
and all was dark in that place, save the mouth of its mouth,
for under a pale light its mouth opened before me,
first empty and then after a little while a change,
two doll sized homunculi climbed in to its mouth,
at perfect parallel they held their knees with their arms,
and both homunculi turned an eye to look upon my eyes.

within the flesh where the dark scorpions
of desire burn with fire once ethereal,
I recall the palace marmorean,
and the princely face with features regal,
stately, yet so comely my soul mimics
in more than a scroll of an agama,
and more than in antique hieroglyphics,
for my skull, my skull is the agalma,
it is from this my soul, disconsolate,
tracing colors from the rainbow palette,
and repeating sounds across the gamut,
from this I fret to make in consummate
love this breath of song, to soar echelons
above, above, to he, the eschaton.

make the sounds terrible when the mouth’s parable
is not found legible, shake the grounds sensible
till the shouts pounds man’s mounds like the clouds, when the whole
earth thunders, the words sunder the crowds and rends the soul.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704719]

>>20704713
I’ve been posting without the trip a tiny bit, but I’ve been focusing on working on a long poem, prayer, more studies and work. I’m actually enjoying finding the threads the other guys posted on to see the reaction. Though again the guy is too obvious because I would never shill myself as better, it’s just uncouth you know?

[Anonymous No.20704728]

>>20704703
No. Same with the Gardner LARPer.

[Dago No.20704734]

>>20703888
Digits confirm
What’s the qrd

You got any Japanese related esoteric readings?

[Anonymous No.20704755]

>>20704714
could be ai generated poem....

[Anonymous No.20704761]

l'anonyme

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704764]

>>20704755
Bro bro if you have an Ai generator that can do that level of multi syllabic rhyme, parallelism, mosaic rhyme, and breath control, then I’m not even mad link me to it so I can have it generate me poems to read all day. Alternatively if you desire I can describe the meaning in depth to the lines and what models I’ve used to write in such and such styles.

[Anonymous No.20704776]

>>20704764
just kidding around, bro. have a good night. (know that your cuck take on ulysses fundamentally changed the way i view that novel.)

[Anonymous No.20704780]

if you don't give frater his trip back
i
am
going
to
SCREAM

[Anonymous No.20704781]

>>20704755
no i saw him discussing part of that poem on discord a few days ago

[Anonymous No.20704785]

>>20704776
>your cuck take on ulysses
go on

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704787]

>>20704776
I hope in a good way? Give me your take on it, by the way other than the porn and direct pride stuff I think your imitation was pretty spot on! Any chance you post semi often on /tv/ concerning henry James?

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704805]

>>20704785
TLDR since it’s a bit of a job to find it on the archive, I believe that Joyce’s problem is that as much as it pretends to be ornate, pretends to be all life-embracing, it’s at the end of the day a mismatch of form and content, on account that the content he decides to write about is mundane boring people accepting the standard and substandard as the best in life, our “hero” being a literal cuckold whose victory is going to sleep and waking up, with his cheating whore of a wife, big DEAL! i say it’s crypto life denial insofar as its equality of all heroicism and types, that all men live and sleep the same, that life is it’s own adventure, effectively removes any ideals of refinement, betterment or excellence, his form is meant to be elitist but his subject matter is the common, his ideal is the common and in the end he preaches emotionally the common thus fails at producing the crystalline cold beauty that can amaze people on its lonesome. I actually prefer wake because of the abandonment of his sentiments and other ideals and his absolute fixation on his musical ideal, I also enjoy his poetry more than his prose since in his verse he strives for beauty without any pretension really.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20704814]

>>20704785
TLDR since it’s a bit of a job to find it on the archive, I believe that Joyce’s problem is that as much as it pretends to be ornate, pretends to be all life-embracing, it’s at the end of the day a mismatch of form and content, on account that the content he decides to write about is mundane boring people accepting the standard and substandard as the best in life, our “hero” being a literal cuckold whose victory is going to sleep and waking up, with his cheating whore of a wife, big DEAL! i say it’s crypto life denial insofar as its equality of all heroicism and types, that all men live and sleep the same, that life is it’s own adventure, effectively removes any ideals of refinement, betterment or excellence, his form is meant to be elitist but his subject matter is the common, his ideal is the common and in the end he preaches emotionally the common thus fails at producing the crystalline cold beauty that can amaze people on its lonesome. I actually prefer wake because of the abandonment of his sentiments and other ideals and his absolute fixation on his musical ideal, I also enjoy his poetry more than his prose since in his verse he strives for beauty without any pretension really. I still don’t count him in the highest tier of writers since I don’t believe the asiatic form of rhetoric/prose is the best, and he is a paragon of the asiatic school.

[Anonymous No.20704833]

>>20704118
POST MORE RIGHT NOW FAGGOT /LIT/ NEED'S CUNY NOW

[Anonymous No.20704894]

>>20704814
>TLDR since it’s a bit of a job to find it on the archive
Use unusual words more often. That's how I find mine. And occasionally yours.

>it pretends to be ornate
It's definitely ornate. Don't see an argument to be made against that.

>pretends to be all life-embracing
I only see this is bad critics' evaluation of a book that they didn't really read. Not always their fault. The required annotations etc weren't really compiled until when? The 1980s?

>accepting the standard and substandard as the best in life
No idea what you mean. They're just innocent men.

>our “hero” being a literal cuckold
I think the part in the library got by you, if you think this doesn't matter. It's the actual center of the novel and gives you the real reason Joyce has you inside this guy's head for a day.

>its equality of all heroicism and types
Like... what?

>that all men live and sleep the same
They don't though. Stephen, Bloom and that wife of his are all nutjobs. Refusing to bathe is weird. Jacking off in public is weird. Molly is obviously cracked.

>removes any ideals of refinement, betterment or excellence
What would be an example of this? Didactic... literature? Self help?

>his form is meant to be elitist
It does seem to filter out the rabble and the literati with ease.

>his ideal is the common
I don't see this anywhere in the novel.

>in the end he preaches emotionally
Now I have no idea what you're referring to. Do you?

>crystalline cold beauty
This is throughout the novel. It's not a smooth glide though, if that's a requirement to get the crystalline into your system...

>I actually prefer wake
Too bad. That's a ridiculous thing to say, pardner.

>he is a paragon of the asiatic school
Wrong tool for analysing Ulysses wew lad. He does a sandblast job on rhetoric though, hopefully you got a kick out of that at least?

[Anonymous No.20704896]

>>20704787
>I hope in a good way? Give me your take on it,

I think so. It struck me as a true take, that you put your finger on something significant that I was certainly aware of, but which never really *registered* with me. Too, there's something I've always found dissatisfying about Ulysses, and that cuck aspect may be the reverse-touchstone that exemplifies or is in some way the source of that dissatisfaction. I'm not sure, I'm still thinking it through.

> by the way other than the porn and direct pride stuff I think your imitation was pretty spot on!

That wasn't me. My only posts on this thread, other than this one, were>>20704776 and >>20704755.

[Anonymous No.20705135]

w A i T i N g

[Anonymous No.20706311]

>>20704764
youre a sad cunt and your 'work' blows

[Anonymous No.20706312]

>>20703888
simple as

[Anonymous No.20706385]

>>20703888
>>/lit/thread/S18242305

[Anonymous No.20706451]

>>20704734
He refuted Guenon.

[Anonymous No.20706480]

So I was thinking, while on my meditative walk this morning, right before I got come and brewed myself some strong black *Colombian* stovetop, which was right before my first of three composition sessions, that it would be really cool to have a website like 4channel except everyone has a trip, and you can follow your favourite tripfaggots and see all of their posts

[Anonymous No.20706544]

>>20706480
maybe since it records what you read we could call it 'read it'

[Anonymous No.20706552]

>>20704814
ive never seen someone as up his own arse as you in my life. youre not even a writer, youre a rank amateur with fatal levels of delusion.

[Anonymous No.20706564]

>>20704814
>I don’t believe the asiatic form of rhetoric/prose is the best, and he is a paragon of the asiatic school.

Why do you consider these to be asiatic, and alternatively what do you consider to be the native occidental mode?

[Anonymous No.20706589]

>>20706564
he doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about. this guy is the biggest fucking fartbreather on the planet.

[Anonymous No.20706609]

>>20706564
asiatic means, per the greeks or romans (i forget which) unnecessarily complicated and flowery speech (essentially purple prose)

[Anonymous No.20706625]

>>20704814
based take

[Anonymous No.20706637]

>>20706544
A delightful though!

[Anonymous No.20706647]

>>20704814
goddamn remove your head from your ass. you criticize joyce for purple prose then write a fucking ten page long essay just to say 'common bad'. self absorbed hypocrite faggot.

[Anonymous No.20706664]

>>20706647
he's apollonian

like dicky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJIkDBLnRDQ

what do you expect
reading his post is like watching that clip

[Anonymous No.20706669]

>>20706664
holy cringe

[Anonymous No.20706713]

>>20706669
cringe? it's apollonian it's content and form in one
it's a man hunting, like a hunter, the best in life -and finding it-
a hero miles above the common man, looking down, his consciousness the sun through a magnifying glass burning through whatever it takes into its gaze
he's so full of life here, singing and dancing
while in absolute danger from the US govt apparatus
he's refined, excellent, an elitist, an expert on nietzsche and a famous writer hated and despised by all sides of anything with sides
and yet here we see him in his glory

[Anonymous No.20706768]

>>20706713
>>20706664
Based deleusional life-affirmator. Only cowards will try to suppress and not to celebrate innocent (even if abominable) becomings: a horse galloping through fields, landing massive amounts of shit in the state of absolute joy.

Come, brothers. No need to argue, no need to prove anything — post as if no one sees, even God or Gods. Post for the wild beasts and birds.

[Anonymous No.20706770]

>>20706768
huh?

[Anonymous No.20706779]

>>20706770

[Anonymous No.20706785]

>>20706779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Disu1pFOOLQ

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.20707359]

More like Farter La Semen

Your poems are gay go eat a dick

[Anonymous No.20707672]

>>20707359
what's you're problem, man

[Anonymous No.20708622]

[Anonymous No.20708721]

QRD on this? The only /lit/ book I know of is Call of the Crocodile.

[Anonymous No.20709300]

>>20708721
Inside Frater's head is a movie screen on which an endless series of very funny and ghastly one-liners are being projected more than any other modern writer he has caught the interior winds of our time. Vastly entertaining even at its most acerbic. Reading it is like a wine-soaked ribbon being pulled through your nasal cavities. A ribbon with one big belt buckle of surprise on it. The ending is explosive.

[Anonymous No.20709512]

>>20704814
You wouldnt know beauty if it bursted out your belly. I refuse to believe actual people give you these opportunities to repeat your retarded rants.
>>20704728
Both are pretending not to shill themselves. /mu/ is wiser to desperate wanabes

[Anonymous No.20709533]

>>20709512
There’s no way all the Gardner spam could just be one single guy.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20709564]

>>20704894
> It's definitely ornate. Don't see an argument to be made against that.

In content it’s pretty simplistic and in all ways but form it’s pretty trashy.

>they’re just innocent men

They’re nothing exceptional and he glories in that.

> What would be an example of this? Didactic... literature? Self help?

Or any work the content of which is the truly strange, glorious, powerful, actually beautiful and rare.

> Now I have no idea what you're referring to. Do you?

What is the whole yes repetition but a way to trigger sugary emotions and to affirm the goodness of his ideal?

>>20706311
I believe my work would be unfit for public consumption since it’s not written for entertainment but solely myself, only reason the above is published is the publisher asked me and I desired to help em out.

>>20706552
I wouldn’t classify myself as either, it’s a hobby bro bro.

>>20706564
Asiatic and attic are used as a dichotomy in Cicero and older rhetoric, both having many sub schools but asiatic was noted for tons of wordplay and verbal tricks and witty stuff, I think wit can distract from the quality of a work if left unchecked, I realize my work is very much not in the generic attic mode but I also do not have any desires for it, in china they likewise had a school corresponding to the attic and middle mode of rhetoric (of which han-yu was the paragon) of which arose in opposition to this same style of “asiatic” prose, I use the term for Joyce since it’s literally the same methodology.

>>20706647
I am against the disharmony of form and content; if he was writing 1200 pages using a single vowel concerning the unity of godhead or the slaying of some evil I would be all for it.

>>20706779
I didn’t write that one the other anon did.

>>20707359
Bro bro how you gonna call a nigga gay when your name is “deep and edgy” because you like it deep and to get edged? Lmao just playing.

>>20708721
>>20704035

Here, though it’s not very good I would say I’ve grown considerably since it’s writing in terms of skill.

https://libgen.is/fiction/A22AB87022A81EB8DC5706F2DA4DF38A

It’s mostly written in a kind of free verse since I write for spiritual contemplation and thought the meter would weaken the contemplative benefit, then I had a period of writing very metrical poetry and now I’m on a period of playing with vowel and form a ton.

Excerpt from a longer poem to show what I mean.

Cont

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20709569]

>>20709564
metaphysical man’s metamorphosis my manifestation,
multiplicity made monadic my momentary mortal mentality,
move my mind’s many movements monstrous mastery’s maker!
motivate my manifold modalities metathetic meanings,
mystical methodology maximize my momentum,
Maya’s mani my mandalic mantras meditatively mingled,
my minion mara’s my music’s model mutating mahakalachakra,
mazel-mahamudra mazzaroth masking my majesty melech,
my madness mimics mastama making my messiah mahazael!

tele-pinu tarsi teraphim,
hell’s key by Ru-amni’s seraphim,
the cells swell, the brass cast, the door forms,
Daleth Gimel, as el in hell I gaze past the veil.

Christ is the corpse upon the cross of GoD,
“veiled in faint air and gemmed with light,”
saint of saints, sin bedight, the lord who knocks,
paled with pains bared and dressed in night.
the sun paints day and paints the night with not,
“look! I stand at the door and knock”
from dawn’s hue to dawning dusk through twilight,
good hides and blacks the flawed eyesight.
the enemy is crouched and does not knock,
“a white star made of memory”
in revelry of devilry darts dawn,
the rhymed song blazes energy,
aflame infernal with a bloodied mind
“And there the lion’s ruddy eyes”
will flame the night a scarlet runny dye,
and bare the diamond‘s comely guise,

by the sun of eye the hell gate door I knock,
by the love of I the self same thorn and god,
by the thorn that is sin, the thorn that pierced him,
i pry the door through the skin, and more know him,
more upon the door of hell I knock upon,
past doors of dawn withdrawn to night, knock upon,
by the sun of eye the hell gate door I knock,
by the love of I the self same thorn and god,

comes the noxious shade, comes the monstrous face,
the conscious fades, I concentrate,
the comets Blaze, I vomit rage,
i psalm the name, I Don the cage,
i contemplate the godless place,
i dominate the darkest phase.


>>20709512
Nah when I shill I just post like the above since I don’t care if you download a pdf or not I also consider what I wrote before as Beneath my current skill level so nothing to be proud of nor shill, do you not like Joyce’s verse?

[Anonymous No.20709602]

>>20709569
Hey, this was really groovy stuff to read, man, very nice. Props on all the hard work you obviously put into this stuff, saved.

[Anonymous No.20709636]

>>20709564
re ulysses

>trashy
Yeah in the sense they're not aristocrats, you're right. Not sure if you mean something specific.

>They’re nothing exceptional and he glories in that.
I think the game was lost on you re Shakespeare. Too bad.

>truly strange, glorious, powerful, actually beautiful and rare.
This is a description of the novel Ulysses by James Joyce. Fucking lol.

>What is the whole yes repetition but a way to trigger sugary emotions and to affirm the goodness of his ideal?
Whose ideal? Molly is a whore cunt within the world of the novel. Only morons read that ending as goodness or ideals. It's interesting that she loved him once but she was just thinking about well you know, presumably...

>only reason the above is published is the publisher asked me and I desired to help em out
Where can this be bought?

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20709648]

>>20709602
Thanks! Here’s a long poem I’m somewhat proud of, the beginning is rough but I’m trying to like, do an Apollonian strangulation of it until it bursts, it’s based on the rhythm from a Marvin Gaye song silly as that may sound.

You might like it.

https://pastebin.com/6VdaYGdE

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20709734]

>>20709636
>not aristocrats

Nor heroes, nor mighty men, nor as in Goethe’s meister effectively deities in writing style; I don’t find being a hoe and a jack off particularly extraordinary.

>re Shakespeare

Mang the problem is, I get a lot of people consider that the soul of the novel and look, I love the decadents he references I love the painter shilled and so forth, I am even a REALLY REALLY big fan of Ae Russell, but what is in that chapter but a love of being qua being that you see in the rest of the novel? What is in that but an affirmation of the idea and art as the good coupled with the common sort of apophaticism of the mundane worshipper which despises the specifics of what is the good and why is it the good? Which is to say a kind of neutering of the ontological origin of their aesthetic beliefs, I even agree with Joyce concerning Newman being so high quality.

In the end I see neither great terrible beauty in his writing; nor systematic philosophy nor do I respect his Shelley-Esque limp wristed art-nature worship, you even see the same ideals in Swinburne who I adore the style of and u despise it equally in him, once more my problem with Joyce is I don’t believe the wild style he strives for is coherent with his content for what is the very section you point to but an example of him using the book as a soapbox to preach to us concerning his ideals with a pathos based rhetoric?

> Where can this be bought?

I really don’t know, I know he said something or another about printing from Amazon and how he’s placing it in book stores but I receive 0 profit concerning the book, am completely anonymous in relation to it and do not really have any interest in what happens out of it, just not really a thing I’m interested in ya know?

Anyways In a lot of ways I feel the likes of Arthur machen more accurately fulfills the ideal of Joyce or at least the good I see in it, or again I will argue his verse as always better, like isn’t this verse of his good for the period and style?

Gaunt in gloom,
The pale stars their torches,
Enshrouded, wave.
Ghostfires from heaven's far verges faint illume,
Arches on soaring arches,
Night's sindark nave.

Seraphim,
The lost hosts awaken
To service till
In moonless gloom each lapses muted, dim,
Raised when she has and shaken
Her thurible.

And long and loud,
To night's nave upsoaring,
A starknell tolls
As the bleak incense surges, cloud on cloud,
Voidward from the adoring
Waste of souls.

[Anonymous No.20709870]

>>20709734
>consider that the soul of the novel
The Joyce quasi-insert Stephen lays out his theory of how Shakespeare wrote his masterworks. They happen to match Bloom's life. We're in Bloom's head for approx half the novel's sections, the idea being that you empathize. That's the engine inside the novel. It is powerful, strange, beautiful and heartbreaking.

I think maybe you bumped up against it and couldn't get into the novel, which is normal. But you sound like, well, like exactly that when talking about it haha just shrug next time.

[Anonymous No.20711214]

>>20703888
>>20703959
Gardner/Frater crossover when?

[Anonymous No.20711371]

>>20711214
They are in a discord server together and holy hell are their exchanges an autistic goldmine. They sperg about asian and Christian mysticism back and forth between one another. It usually ends with Gardner bringing up flat earth which he somehow makes every conversation about. The only reason Gardner hasn’t been kicked from the server is because he’s a meme celebrity and everyone has to put up with it or else Gardner throws a temper tantrum.

[Anonymous No.20711937]

>>20709734
less is more. you talk too much.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.20712425]

>>20711214
>>20711371
I like him.

>>20711937
More is more, I see no reason not to explain exactly what I mean and I see no reason not to talk as much if not more than I would irl if we were discussing any such topic.

[Anonymous No.20712444]

>>20712425
But you come off poorly when you're out of your depth, which is often. But entertaining. Unintentionally.

[Anonymous No.20713040]

>>20711371
link?

[Anonymous No.20713197]

>>20713040
I can’t post it because the jannies can tell who posted the links. Gardner might find out and probably bitch about it and get me banned from it. It’s the Unreal server. Ask /wg/ and they’ll post it.

[Anonymous No.20713676]

>>20709870
>It is powerful, strange, beautiful and heartbreaking.
Kill yourself you retarded Rupi Kaur wannabe faggot

[Anonymous No.20714685]

>>20713676
seethe

[Anonymous No.20715363]

>>20714685
dilate