/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2070198]

Your five favorite poets:

>1- J.D. Morrison
>2- William Blake
>3- Charles Bukowski
>4- Nietzsche
>5- Socrates

[VeiL !!LpJFJwZq2Js No.2070201]

Tao Lin.

[Anonymous No.2070203]

>>2070198
Sorry, I ment C.S. Lewis instead of Socrates, had a flashback.

[VeiL !!LpJFJwZq2Js No.2070204]

>>2070201
Is a modern dat ts Eliot

[Anonymous No.2070210]

>>2070203
Jesus christ, wtf is wrong with me.
I ment T.S. Eliot.
My mind is pretty f*cked up today...

[Anonymous No.2070212]

i have a thing for shakespeare. may sound like cliche, but his work is just so...gruesome.

[VeiL !!LpJFJwZq2Js No.2070216]

>>2070210
You meant Tao Lin.

[Anonymous No.2070223]

>>2070216
No no, T.S. Eliot for sure.
I don't know what's going on with me today, earlier I told my roomate that he should sleep in the closet more often.

[VeiL !!LpJFJwZq2Js No.2070228]

>>2070223
No no Tao Lin is a modern day Eliot.

[Anonymous No.2070230]

>>2070223
are you afraid of homosexuals or homosexual activity?

also:

1 - bukowski
2 - eliot
3 - baudelaire
4 - langston hughes
5 - fante

[Anonymous No.2070233]

>>2070228
Yes sir, but I prefer the original one.
>>2070230
Not quite, my policy with them is simple: as long as they don't want to jump me, I'm ok with it.

[Anonymous No.2070236]

>>2070230
baudelaire was a self cenered prick

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2070250]

1. Ezra Pound
2. WH Auden
3. Samuel Johnson
4. Edgar Allen Poe
5. ????

[Anonymous No.2070254]

>>2070250
>mfw forgot Edgar

[Anonymous No.2070258]

>>2070236
with good reason my friend!

[Anonymous No.2070259]

>>2070198
I don't have 5, but I like Dickinson, Eliot, Julian Casablancas.

[Anonymous No.2070261]

>>2070198
five favorite poets.

none of them wrote poetry.

mfw

[Anonymous No.2070265]

>>2070259
>Casablancas
>legitimate author
>mfw

[Anonymous No.2070266]

>>2070261
Not sure if serious

[Anonymous No.2070267]

>>2070265
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knU9gRUWCno

[Anonymous No.2070268]

>>2070265
lol Jim Morrison and Charles Bukowski didn't bother you though?

[Anonymous No.2070270]

>>2070268
they both released legitimate work and solidified their status as real writers.

[Anonymous No.2070272]

>>2070270
"real writers"

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2070273]

>>2070250
Thomas Hardy is my number 5

[Anonymous No.2070275]

>>2070272
>filename

[Anonymous No.2070279]

>>2070250
>>2070273
can't quite remember samuel johnson's main work.

[Anonymous No.2070283]

>>2070268

i can see why you could no include morrison (although he has several publications of poetry, as well as audio documentation of him reciting his own works at concerts) but i dont see how you could deny bukowski in anyway? unless your saying that he is shit and his works should not be considered in which my reply is alright?

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2070285]

>>2070279
his stuff in iambic pentameter is the best iambic pentameter I've come across.

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2070289]

>>2070285
>>2070279

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173713

dat first stanza

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070290]

>>2070283
The dude's a moron, probably looking for a chance to spread misery.

[Anonymous No.2070291]

>>2070283
has anyone even been so far to want do more look like?

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2070298]

>>2070283
I thought you were talking about Tony morrison and I was gonna defend him.. but I dont know who jimmy morrison is, and I think bukowksi sucks.

[Anonymous No.2070300]

>>2070285
>>2070289
oh now I remember, yes! absolutely love the little touch of "darkness" in his work. as if he's brilliantly calculating the right amount of obscurity

[Anonymous No.2070301]

Percy Bysshe Shelley
T. S. Eliot
Rumi (I've admittedly only read him in Coleman Barks' translations)
W. B. Yeats
W. H. Auden / John Keats (Can't decide)

[Anonymous No.2070302]

>>2070291
what?

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070304]

>>2070298
You should try reading some of Morrison's stuff.
It's pretty amazing and his poetry coexists with his music in perfect fashion.
Not knowing who Jim Morrison is it's a bit redundant...but saying Bukowski sucks, that's blasphemy.

[Anonymous No.2070305]

TS Eliot
Ludwig Wittgenstein
William Gass
David Markson
Lord Byron (lookatthisgqmotherfucker.jpg related)

[Anonymous No.2070307]

Bukowski is trash

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070310]

>>2070301
I love Sheley's work, "Ode to the West Wind" was one of the stones of my teen years.

[Anonymous No.2070312]

>>2070307

[Anonymous No.2070333]

>>2070198
oh! A troll thread!

[Anonymous No.2070335]

>>2070333
>disagrees with OP
>must be a troll
>mfw

[Anonymous No.2070347]

there's only two poems i've ever really liked; dream deffered and reapers by jean toomer

[Anonymous No.2070350]

>>2070347
but why?
sure reapers was incoherent, but that can't be the only reason

[Anonymous No.2070354]

1. Thom Gunn

2. T. S. Elliot

3. Allen Ginsberg

4. Leonard Cohen

5. Sylvia Plath

Special mention goes to Ian Curtis, who while not a "poet" in the same sense as the others on this list (except maybe Cohen), still wrote very moving verse.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070358]

>>2070354
Leonard Cohen is such a sport. He and Dylan are among the songwritters I respect the most.
Cohen is a perfectionist, while Dylan is more of an impulsive writer.

I was going to mention Ian Curtis, or Kurt Cobain, but I remembered that Cobain wasn't that much of a writer....

[Anonymous No.2070371]

>>2070358
too bad he's living the last days in the music world. cohen was probably my favorite voice out there

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070377]

>>2070371
Yeah, traveled all the way to Portugal to see him last year.
"The Miracle" is such a good song.

[Anonymous No.2070386]

>>2070358

My nigga.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070390]

>>2070386
*interweb brofist*

[Behemoth !!Twl3DmqEY/B No.2070402]

1. e.e. cummings
2. Ted Hughes
3. Robinson Jeffers
4. Alexander Pope
5. Anne Sexton

[Anonymous No.2070412]

>>2070402
>Anne Sexton
really?

[Anonymous No.2070436]

>Lord Byron
>Charles Baudelaire
>Robert Frost
>John Keats
>Robert Louis Stevenson

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070454]

>>2070436
I love that weird taste.
Lord Byron has to be one of the most bohemian writers I've ever had the pleasure to study.
Keats was pretty expressive IMO, good quality to be honest.

[Anonymous No.2070463]

>>2070454

>Lord Byron
>pleasure to study

So, so true.

[sandwiches No.2070464]

- whitman
- sappho
- dickinson
- rimbaud
- anne carson

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070476]

>>2070463
He was truly the epitome of the romaticism. Like Elvis symbolized the 50's, Napoleon the late 1800's and so on.

[Anonymous No.2070480]

Jim Morrison is a shit level "poet". Are you 15 or something?

[Anonymous No.2070481]

>>2070476

Napoleon symbolised the late 1800's?

[Anonymous No.2070484]

blake
ee cummings
rimbaud
snyder
some dude i know

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070492]

>>2070480
I'm old enough to respect other people's tastes.
You either don't understand his work or (most likely) never read it.
People these days...
>>2070481
I said the LATE 1800's. Key word is "late". I'm not talking about it at a literal level.

[Anonymous No.2070506]

>>2070492
People are Strange my friend...

[Hades !!gxdzsSnwykj No.2070508]

> No Tennyson.

What the fuck, guys? Also, Cummings up in this.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070516]

>>2070506
I see what you did there.
>>2070508
I ment to put him in an Honorable Mention section, but like you can see I was distracted when I made the thread.

[Anonymous No.2070521]

>>2070492

You're sure you want to make 'late' the operative word? He died well before the latter half of the 1800's began.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070523]

>>2070521
Depends on your interpretation of the word. Either the literal way, or your own way. I can mention Lincoln, better?

[Anonymous No.2070542]

>>2070523

Look, I like you, but let's just accept that fact that Napoleon doesn't belong to the 'late 1800's'. His peak (somewhere between 1811-1812) came before Lord Byron's (1816, at the very earliest)!

[Anonymous No.2070551]

>>2070492
>I'm old enough to respect other people's tastes.

Eat shit kiddo. I like The Doors music and all but Morrison's poetry is bad. Yes, I've read it, yes I understand it.

Are you expecting me to respect your shit taste? I don't respect it the same way I don't respect 12 y.o. girls pop music taste.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070573]

>>2070542
What I'm trying to say is that his impact was more profound AFTER his "conquest". His peak was indeed between 1811-1812, but his actions made a moss way after his passing.
>>2070551
You obviously have zero vote on the matter. You've lost that power when using ad hominem to justify your purpose. I absolutely detest Ayn Rand but I respect her work. I've read more books than your entire family put together, so I think my taste is a little bit above yours.
This discussion is over mate.
Little hint: read the most you can about Shamanism, it will probably widen your perspective.

[Anonymous No.2070582]

it takes guts to mention morrison as a favorite poet. very few people truly understand his work because they cant get passed the fact of his music.

[Anonymous No.2070583]

>>2070573

If you say so. I'd argue that Napoleon's most profound impact was upon his contemporaries. From a literary perspective, no writer has ever been so obsessively dedicated to Napoleon as Lord Byron (who even brought a bust of Napoleon to Harrow as a schoolboy, as well as latterly adopting the apelation 'Noel Byron' - in order to replicate the initials of his hero - and touring Europe in a chariot modelled on the Little General's). Besides, you initially described him as the 'epitome' of the late 1800's, not merely someone who influence that period somehow - and that's simply wrong. Byron also influenced people decades later (centuries, even) and yet one isn't likely to say that he epitomised the 1890's.

[Anonymous No.2070589]

Edgar Allen Poe, William Wordsworth, Lord Byron, John Cooper Clarke, William Shakespere (Dem sonnets)

[Anonymous No.2070590]

>>2070250


>Ezra Pound
>Edgar Allen Poe
>not terrible poets

I'm surprised that you've read Johnson; if you had, you would be able to recognize good poetry.

[Anonymous No.2070594]

>Socrates
>poet

[Anonymous No.2070595]

Just felt like I'd let OP know that he is not alone in appreciating Morrison's work so highly.

Also love Byron, Keats and Bukowski.

*brofist*

[Anonymous No.2070597]

It's nice to see that Lord Byron is so widely appreciated. For an awfully long time he was the most underappreciated Romantic poet.

[Anonymous No.2070601]

>>2070597
I think most people like him because he was such a personality. I read about him before I actually read him and for some reason I appreciated it more.

>Inb4 playa haters

[LIZORD KING SHAMON No.2070603]

>>2070573
>I absolutely detest Ayn Rand but I respect her work.

I also respect Morrison's acceptable work. You aren't the LIZORD KING, it's not about him, it about you.

>You've lost that power when using ad hominem to justify your purpose
> I've read more books than your entire family put together, so I think my taste is a little bit above yours.

Hahaha.

>This discussion is over mate.

Hohoho.

>Little hint: read the most you can about Shamanism, it will probably widen your perspective.

This is just too hilarious. Here's your homework:

Compare Morrison's "poetry" to actually decent poetry.

[Anonymous No.2070612]

no love for frank o'hara?

[Anonymous No.2070616]

>>2070601

Good point. Byron's rise to popularity has been in accordance with a general trend in literary theory toward biography. The reality is that Don Juan is an incredible poetic achievment, irrespective of the writer's personal life, but knowing that he happened to keep a pet bear at Cambridge does make it that little bit more accessible and awesome.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070619]

>>2070582
It's a point I'm trying to work on, it's hard to see beyond the "Rockstar" perspective. I wasn't too confident about his work at the beginning, but after "Wilderness" I was convinced.
>>2070583
That's one of the reasons why I admire Byron, the way he actually makes part of his work spinning around a personality he admired. Doing it with such effrontery and at the same time subtlety. Not many people have the guts to do so, Aldous Huxley was very subtle about his 'hero'.
What I'm trying to say is that most historical figures influence the future way after their passing. If it weren't for Hitler, well...just imagine how the world would be today. That was my point all along, I believe that Napoleon had a larger influence upon Europe way after he died.
And I only mentioned that Byron epitomised the romanticism of his era...
>>2070595
And here I was thinking that everybody hated Bukowski. Started to feel like an awkward fish here. Thank you for the support.
>>2070601
My grandfather mentioned him to me when I was a child and his personality fascinated me almost as much as Guy Fawkes' or Girolamo Savonarola.
>>2070603
Pathetic...

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070623]

>>2070594
I already corrected my mistake.

[Anonymous No.2070625]

>>2070619
it's hard to see one's poetry behind his personality. most people don't do that. i believe that most people hate bukowski because he was an arsehole, and can't see beyond that

[Anonymous No.2070628]

>>2070625

Byron was an arsehole, but his poetry is manifestly popular.

[LIZORD KING SHAMON No.2070630]

>>2070619
>BAWWW I LIEK LIZARD KING I RED LOTSA BOOKS SO I KNOW BETTER, I LIKE HIM AND BECAUSE I'M SO INTELLIGENT HE MUST BE GOOD YOU WRONG YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND SHAMANISM IS SO DEEP YOU SHOULD EDUCATE YOURSELF I WONT EVEN DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I RED MORE BOOKS AND I'M SMARTER I RED MORE BOOKS THAN YOUR WHOLE FAMILY COMBINED YOU SO PATHETIC

Again, go read good poetry, I have faith that upon discovering something good and then comparing it to what you used to read you will know what beauty is. Growing up also helps.

[Anonymous No.2070631]

1 - W.B. Yeats
2 - Dylan Thomas
3 - T.S. Eliot
4 - Simon Armitage
5 - U.A. Fanthorpe

[Anonymous No.2070634]

>>2070631

It's nice to see Dylan Thomas make an appearance. I had a hard time deciding between him and Keats.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070636]

>>2070625
I understand what you're saying. A person who sees an author as an arsehole would rarely pick up a book written by him. Since he is a terrible human being, his work must be terrible too, they assume.
It took me a while to look past that perspective.
>>2070630
I know I shouldn't be laughing at ignorance, but this is just too amusing.

[Anonymous No.2070641]

>>2070630
you are what's wrong with this world

[Anonymous No.2070643]

>>2070634
I don't think I've read enough Keats to call him a favourite, but I did like what I read. Keats's language sounds very beautiful, but Dylan Thomas is so very creative and energetic with words that it's hard to resist. His love of the sound of words comes through better than anyone I've read.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070647]

>>2070643
I know what you mean, it seems like he slides between his verses, and the little word games are delightful.
It's rare to see such energetic work for a man of his time.

[Anonymous No.2070650]

i cant name five but i absolutely love ts eliot

[Anonymous No.2070653]

>>2070647
>>2070643

There is a degree of delicacy in his verse. Some biographers have suggested that it was reflective of his character, and that the criticism he garnered after publishing his Endymion killed him. Or maybe it's Hyperion, I can't remember. Either way, poor John!

[Anonymous No.2070654]

>>2070641
>>2070636
>lol animu reaction images

Hey guys, just take it (as it comes) you will. I'm not even trying to prove it, I believe you will reach it someday because I dont take you as ignorants.

Otherwise try mentioning some of this poetry in a real life serious and literate discussion and watch everybody laugh at you, out of pity.

[Anonymous No.2070655]

>>2070647
It's a pity that few people appreciate his work.
He's like underground for most literature addepts...

[Anonymous No.2070664]

>>2070655
My one criticism of Thomas though - sometimes he's impenetrable. It's charming in a way, but I still have no idea what he's talking about. Example stanzas from "When, like a running grave":

When, like a running grave, time tracks you down,
Your calm and cuddled is a scythe of hairs,
Love in her gear is slowly through the house,
Up naked stairs, a turtle in a hearse,
Hauled to the dome,

Comes, like a scissors stalking, tailor age,
Deliver me who timid in my tribe,
Of love am barer than Cadaver's trap
Robbed of the foxy tongue, his footed tape
Of the bone inch

...

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070667]

>>2070653
I could not find the word "delicacy", that is what I ment. I personally loved his entire work, so it's a pity to see him buried under tons of criticism (which he did not deserve).
I felt like he was truly born to write while reading his work, like Freddy Mercury was born to sing.
>>2070654
I talk on weekly bases about literature, and I never forget to mention him as my favorite poet. Nobody laughs because they actually give the man a chance instead of reading his work with a blindfold. I gave a chance to electronic music before criticising it. Perhaps you should do the same...
>>2070655
Just like Morrison or Bukowski, few people accept him or know about him at the level they should. The man was briliant.

[Anonymous No.2070669]

>>2070655

I've observed an odd trend amongst those who proclaim themselves 'literary' outwith an academic environment (what I suppose Americans might call 'hipsters') and that is that they often denounce the Romantic poets, calling them 'sophomoric' or - God forbid - 'entry level'. How on earth these idiots are able to criticise Keats, Shelley, Byron, Coleridge and Wordsworth and yet suggest that Bukowski is brilliant is beyond me. It's worth noting that I haven't observed a similar tendency amongst my contemporaries, lecturers and tutors at Oxford.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070677]

>>2070664
Even there he's sliding...I find it hard not to love his work.
The aura of mystery surrounding the words is inviting the reader and at the same time pushing him away when he seems comfortable.
>>2070669
Like I said before, I believe that most people judge a man's work based on his personality. I am pragmatic from that point of view, and love the aformentioned authors, but I don't put Bukowski on a pedestal and kick them down. I simply admire their work as its supposed to be admired.
Good to see another brit around these "bus stops".

[Anonymous No.2070680]

>>2070677
im guessing you do some drugs, right?

[Anonymous No.2070681]

>>2070677

Got to keep the British end up, old chap. Are you at one of our fine academic institutions at the moment? I've just moved back down from Edinburgh for my second year at Oxford.

[Anonymous No.2070685]

>not mentionig John Donne

ISHYGDDT

I bet most people on here have never read poets of the renaissance period.

[Anonymous No.2070690]

>>2070681
Well, I read "The Doors of Perception" at a very young age...you can draw your conclusions from there.
>>2070681
Quite a curious case, I'm heading to Oxford too this year. First year for me, since I 'horsed around' for a year or so traveling. I read some works of people who graduated last year and I'm seeing a pretty briliant future for English literature at the moment. Maybe this generation isn't lost after all...

[Anonymous No.2070696]

>>2070681

>claims to go to Oxford

pics or it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.2070698]

>>2070690

I suppose I'll see you around then! Which college?

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070699]

>>2070685
I have "Fifty Sermons" on my "to read" list at the moment. And here I was thinking he was too underground for this discussion.

[Anonymous No.2070700]

>>2070681
Just stopping in to say that I, too, am British. This guy talking >>2070631

I've got to do an extra year at school, but I'm aiming for UCL or Edinburgh.

[Anonymous No.2070703]

>>2070696

EVERYONE IN /lit/ IS ON IVY LEAGUE/OXBRIDGE, DIDN'T YOU KNOW THIS?

[Anonymous No.2070705]

>>2070696

Oxford isn't all that difficult to get into, not now. I think The Times rated us below Edinburgh for English last year. A few of my teachers suggested that I'd be better off at Scotland 'finest' if I wasn't going to Cambridge. However, my dad went to Balliol.

[Anonymous No.2070709]

>>2070700

(I'm the guy in his second year at Oxford). I'm from Edinburgh, and my brother - six years my elder - went there to study European History. By all accounts, it's a great university in a beautiful city. I'd have happily studied there if I hadn't gotten into Oxford which - as I mentioned before - holds particularly sway for me, on account of my dad having studied there.

[Anonymous No.2070710]

>>2070699

Renaissance poets created the most superior poetry in my opinion. Donne's work is incredible in the multiple layers of meaning.

I admire Renaissance verse the most because they kept to universal themes as opposed to the more modern socio-political whining hipster bullshit, 'oh I'm a tormented artist blah blah'.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070713]

>>2070698
Oxfordshire mate.
I myself am a Manc, but I moved a lot during my child days.
>>2070700
Where the hell are you people when needed for a proper discusion? I feel like I can't talk with anyone about literature, and yet I see so many british people wandering around these places.
By the way, "The Dead Sea of Poems" was one of my favorite works when I was younger. It was just a bookmark of the end of an era for me.

[Anonymous No.2070721]

>>2070709
Thanks for the information! I don't think there's much point in me applying for Oxbridge, because I had to do some resits (hence the extra year at school). However, because I'm working class, and my parents didn't go to university, and I come from a low achieving area, Edinburgh should let me in out of sympathy, haha. Edinburgh take into account these so-called "contextual factors".

[Anonymous No.2070722]

>>2070710

'Let me pour forth
My tears before thy face while I stay here.'

From 'A Valediction: of Weaping' by J.D.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070727]

>>2070710
I understand what you're saying, it was pure. Without the infuence of, for the lack of a better word, bullshit and it was certainly ment for a higher purpose. I finished reading "Os Lusíadas" by Luis de Camões (portuguese) and his work is amazing. Just puts the Renaissance in a nutshell, the creativity and the actual DEDICATION to the work amazes me.

[Anonymous No.2070737]

>>2070721

I'm sure they'll find a place for you! If I can get a first class degree here I'm thinking of coming back to Edinburgh to study for my masters. I don't think I'll be able to afford living away from home much longer.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070743]

>>2070737
The world has become an awful place for struggling authors...it's getting harder and harder to get recognition for good work while others murder entire literary genres and are loved by millions. Dull, empty millions...

[Anonymous No.2070749]

I'm loving this thread, so many authors that inspired me through my life mentioned. It feels good to see that others love them too.
Especially Lord Byron.

[Anonymous No.2070750]

>>2070743

You'll feel an awful lot better about the world (though not necessarily better about yourself) when you arrive Oxford, m'friend. One year before I matriculated, I wished there were more like me: one year after, I wished there were fewer.

[Anonymous No.2070754]

>>2070749

It's nice that Lord George has brought some of us together (though I'm sure he'd have hated us all).

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070758]

>>2070750
Don't get me wrong, but I have traveled a lot, but never had the pleasure to meet someone like me. Sure I've met similar people, but non of them actually gripped life the way I did. In all honesty I hope you're right.
>>2070754
The man was a prick...more of a reason to admire him and his work.

[Anonymous No.2070761]

I don't wanna be "that guy", but can we archive this? I have to go now but I want to take not of all the people mentioned here, I'm kinda new to this literature world

[Anonymous No.2070763]

No particular order

Larkin
Shakespeare
Eliot
Keats
Jonson

[Anonymous No.2070764]

>>2070761
http://chanarchive.org/request_votes
Vote there if you're actually gonna help me, thanks in advance

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070766]

>>2070763
Finally someone mentioned Shakespeare.
The ultimate tragedy master.

[Anonymous No.2070769]

good to see that someone admires Morrison's work too. he is very underrated in the poetry world, and I don't even know why

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070771]

>>2070769
As I said before, it's because of his image. I'm not saying he was the greatest poet who ever lived, but his work was astonishing. I find myself swimming in his verses. Of course, because I disconnect from the whole "crash and burn rockstar" image...

[Anonymous No.2070778]

>>2070761

1) J.D. Morrison
2) William Blake
3) Charles Bukowski
4) Friedrich Nietzsche
5) T.S. Elliot
6) Charles Baudelaire
7) Langston Hughes
8) Dante
9) Ezra Pound
10) WH Auden
11) Samuel Johnson
12) Edgar Allen Poe
13) Emily Dickinson
14) Thomas Hardy
15) Percey Bysshe Shelley
16) Rumi
17) William Butler Yeats
18) Ludwig Wittgenstein
19) William Gass
20) David Markson
21) Thom Gunn
22) Allen Ginsberg
23) Leonard Cohen
24) Sylvia Plath
25) EE Cummings
26) Ted Hughes
27) Robinson Jeffers
28) Alexander Pope
29) Lord Byron
30)Robert Frost
31)John Keats
32)Robert Louis Stevenson

I'm listing the names posted so far. Part one.

[Anonymous No.2070779]

Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux is my favorite by far...I could mention others like Eliot or Baudelaire but I prefer Despréaux because of the simplicity of his work.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070781]

>>2070778
I was going to say notepad, but that's a much better way.
>>2070779
You have to be one of my favorite mentions.
From out of nowhere you drop Nicolas, it really caught me by surprise.

[Anonymous No.2070786]

>>2070778


32) Whitman
33) Sapho
34) Rimbaud
35) Anne Carson
36) William Blake
37) Snyder
38) Lord Tennyson
39) Dylan Thomas
40) Simon Armitage
41) U.A. Fanthorpe
42) John Donne
43) Philip Larkin
44) William Shakespeare
45) Ben Jonson
46) Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux

The list, thus far.

[Anonymous No.2070788]

Blake
Coleridge
TS Eliot
Immortal Technique
Eliot Harman

[Anonymous No.2070789]

1. Lord Byron
2. Percy Bysshe Shelley
3. William Blake
4. John Keats
5. Charles Bukowski

Too much romanticism? People say my taste is generic

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070793]

>>2070789
Generic? I like it. I would call them out with the "I don't think that word means what you think it means" phrase. And it's good to see others mention Blake for once.

[Anonymous No.2070794]

>>2070766
It's become a cliche I think to like him, but all the glory heaped upon him is deserved. Especially if you read his contemporaries and later poets. They're beautiful, but there's something so transcendent about Shakespeare.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070798]

>>2070794
I feel like Shakespeare's work is timeless, that's the reason why I like him so much. I often refer to him as being the Beatles of literature. I hate the Beatles though, but I love Shakespeare.
The only thing I find hard to understand about him is his source of inspiration...

[Anonymous No.2070800]

I like what Danny Fields said about Jim Morrison:
"Jim was a callous asshole, an abusive mean person. I took Morrison to Max's and he was a monster, a prick. And his poetry sucked. He demeaned rock & roll as literature. Sophomoric bullshit babble. Maybe one or two good images."
and
"As a person, I think Morrison's magic and power went beyond the quality of his versifying. He was bigger than that. He was sexier than his poetry - more mysterious, more problematic, more difficult, more charismatic as a perfroemr. There has got to be a reason why women like Nico and Gloria Stavers, the editor of 16 magazine, fell so deeply in love with him, because he was essentially an abusive man to women. But it sure wasn't his poetry. I've got to tell you, it wasn't his poetry. He had a big dick. That was probably it."

[Anonymous No.2070804]

>>2070798
I don't think that's quite so mysterious.The Renaissance inspiration was the contemporary, whether dramatic or poetic. Now his genius however, that's a mystery for all time..

[Anonymous No.2070815]

>>2070800

Danny Fields was a marketing ploy. He is the jackass who went into all these new scenes and told the record companies, "Here's how we get rich off these kids."

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070817]

>>2070800
I find hard to take Danny Fields seriously because of the antagonism between him and Morrison. Of course you're going to bash someone you detest.
>>2070804
Yes, but unike many other Renassance authors, his work offers a timless connection. I like to mention Camões because his work is very centered, unlike Shakespeare's, thus making it for the lack of a better word contemporary, stuck in his own time.
Hamlet can be adapted to almost any time, for example.

[Anonymous No.2070826]

>>2070815
Which gives him a perspective that isn't caught up in bs romanticized images.

[Anonymous No.2070831]

>>2070817
Hrmm. While I don't disagree over the timeless connection, there's some of Jonson's poetry that reaches such heights. On my first sonne, for example, or Milton's Lycidas. It's in his complete bloody continuity in his brilliance.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070832]

>>2070826
Actually, that makes him an arsehole and a biased douche.

[None !ShamanP7gU No.2070847]

>>2070831
I don't doubt that, but I never said that there weren't other timeless poets. It's just my opinion that dictates that Shakespeare is on the top of that list. I don't like all his work, but I respect it mostly.
I feel like Dylan Thomas' "Do not go gentle into that good night" belongs in that same category, for its two-faced meaning. It can be interpretated in so many ways.

[Anonymous No.2070855]

I find Alfred Molina to be a terrific actor.

[Caracalla !!S1oOkTjvsv2 No.2070864]

Reading this thread, I feel poetry is something I really need to get into. It's nice to see no-one mentioned Wordsworth, the times they are improving. Nice to see some Oxford posters as well.

1.Whitman
2.Chaucer (more of a poet for poetry's sake than some of the older figures, your Homers and Ovids etc.; was tempted to say Donne but need to do some more reading to put that opinion in a post)
3.Yeats (his stuff is pretty inconsistent but can be superb; Leda and the Swan, La Belle Dame sans Merci, need I cite more...; Dickinson was tempting but she has like these ten or 12 awesome poems and then this slew of hymns and subtle irony games)
4.Rimbaud (I like his imagery; Baudelaire is the only other modern foreign poet I've approached in the original and I don't quite have a nice perspective on him yet: so far I haven't been too impressed but ah well)
5. Y'know I'm really tempted to say Heaney here, just cause the only option for the token down-to-earth poet was Larkin and he's a real sensationalist at times. I mean 'Digging' is a little turdish and offensively ubiquitous and the political stuff is occasionally on the weak side, but there's some nice stuff if you do some sifting.

[Anonymous No.2070876]

>>2070864
I'll probably go on and quote Morrison in the wrong way, but poetry is one of the few things that survive to time itself. Poetry and music. No one remembers an entire novel, or movie. But in a (probable grim) future people will sing songs and quote poems written all along history.
Btw, it's pretty cool that you mentioned Yeats. He's like Steve Austin in the world of poetry.
Also, I believe that mentioning Homer or Ovidius was a bit redundant, since most people here have read their stuff in while young... (at least younger)

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070880]

>>2070876
*mentioning Homer and Ovidius myself

[Anonymous No.2070886]

- William Cullen Bryant
- John Wilmot, 2nd Earl of Rochester
- William Blake
- W.S. Merwin
- Theodore Roethke

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070888]

>>2070886
Amazed by Roethke and Bryant.
Good show sir!

[Anonymous No.2070892]

145 posts and no Rilke

>mfw

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070900]

>>2070892
I really liked his work, but I find his lack of impact disturbing. That might be the reason why I don't oftenly quote him...deep work though.

[Caracalla !!S1oOkTjvsv2 No.2070908]

>>2070876
Redundant? No... Maybe mentioning Ovid was silly, because he's not great, a little sort of facile and indulgent in his whimsy. I'll retroactively slip Vergil into that sentence if that's okay.

I mean as far as significance goes the two Homeric epics set up that dichotomy Western Literature has doggedly followed ever since, the one between freedom and inviduality (the Odyssey) and community and solidarity and civilisation (the Iliad). It's also a little uncharitable to consider them poems for the young; both have highly developed metaphysically aspects, the warrior culture in the Iliad, the individual and fate in the Odyssey (these are contiguous, I'll grant you that straight off the bat). That's not mentioning the glorious craft and those moments of pure brilliance; the rhetoric exchanged at the beginning of Iliad Book One, case in point.

Granted, this is coming from a person who's had much more access than average to the subtleties in Homer because I know the langauge.

The reason why I feel he has no place in my list is that Homer didn't perfectly match the spirit of poetry; poetry is always a solipsism and rarely a fable. Vergil was better on this account; there's this constant hint of sardonicism that threads the Aeneid, probably him chomping at the Augustinian party-line bit. This leads quite nicely to why I choose Chaucer; his irony is developed and directed and brilliant, all in the ways Vergil's wasn't free to be. As a narrative poet, I suppose he's still a figure in the old Homeric paradigm; but his judge of character that makes him a real poet and not a guileful prosaist.

[Caracalla !!S1oOkTjvsv2 No.2070912]

>>2070892
Rilke's an odd one; also don't forget he's ruined in translation. There's not many German readers here...

[Anonymous No.2070922]

>>2070912
The Duino Elegies has been translated into English enough to be worth reading in its own right. I don't read German but it's still powerful.

One of my closest friends does read (and write) German and he told me that Rilke didn't lose too much in some translations. He showed me some of his own translations so that I could compare them -- his were mostly literal so I got a good idea of what liberties were taken between different versions. That's just one man's opinion but I believe him.

[Anonymous No.2070924]

>>2070912
I forgot to mention he has tons of poetry in French, which is much simpler to translate. To me it's also not as good and not as memorable as the stuff he wrote in German though.

[Caracalla !!S1oOkTjvsv2 No.2070926]

>>2070924
Ahh, okay, I'll look into these

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070934]

>>2070908
My point was, that most of us read the work of Homer while young. I studied his work while in high school and was able to get a lot out of it.

Don't mistake me, but I find Homer's books as being a source of inspiration, rather than "the best epic of all time". I much enjoyed studying it, but I think I squeezed as much as I could out of his work.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe his poetry has limits.
As for Vergil, I can't quite disagree with you.

[Anonymous No.2070985]

>>2070778
i like this guy

[Anonymous No.2070988]

>>2070934
are you implying that Homer's work is for children?

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070990]

>>2070988
No, I'm merely stating that we all read his books while being young. It's a classic.

[Anonymous No.2070994]

>>2070990
btw OP I archived your thread

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2070998]

>>2070994
That dude already made a list of the mentioned poets here, there was no need for that.

[Anonymous No.2071003]

>>2071001
>wat

[Anonymous No.2071016]

>>2071003
http://archive.gentoomen.org/cgi-board.pl/lit/

[Anonymous No.2071024]

why do i feel like you're that guy i saw on /b/ posting porn for archive votes >>2070994

[Anonymous No.2071028]

>>2071024
it was me!

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2071029]

>>2071024
>>2071028
I feel dirty all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.2071032]

>>2071028
>>2071028
man what're the fucking odds of that? i hop onto /b/ for like less than two minutes and see your thread, then see you again here

fuck man
that's intense

[Anonymous No.2071036]

>>2071032
did you request something? I actually had to leave for a while. glad this was archived, I liked this thread and I want to use it for future reference.

[Anonymous No.2071039]

Robert Burns
Sr Walter Scott
Walt Whitman
Langston Huges
Robert Frost
Local College students

[Anonymous No.2071042]

Eliot
Poe
Whitman
Yeats
Blake

Also Homer, but I read him in translation so he's more prose for me.

[None !ShamanJNlM No.2071044]

>>2071039
It's been a while since I heard someone mention Robert Frost.
Good stuff, I'm re-reading some of is work next week for the sake of nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.2071045]

Lao Tzu

[Anonymous No.2071915]

Rumi
Hafiz
Nizami
Ferdowsi
Omar Khayyam

[Anonymous No.2071925]

Each star a rung,
night comes down the spiral
staircase of the evening.
The breeze passes by so very close
as if someone just happened to speak of love.
In the courtyard,
the trees are absorbed refugees
embroidering maps of return on the sky.
On the roof,
the moon - lovingly, generously -
is turning the stars
into a dust of sheen.
From every corner, dark-green shadows,
in ripples, come towards me.
At any moment they may break over me,
like the waves of pain each time I remember
this separation from my lover.

This thought keeps consoling me:
though tyrants may command that lamps be smashed
in rooms where lovers are destined to meet,
they cannot snuff out the moon, so today,
nor tomorrow, no tyranny will succeed,
no poison of torture make me bitter,
if just one evening in prison
can be so strangely sweet,
if just one moment anywhere on this earth.

- Faiz Ahmed Faiz

[Anonymous No.2071936]

1. Whitman
2. Keats
3. Maurice Manning (contemporary poet)
4. Hardy
5. Philip Levine (contemporary- current US laureate)

[Anonymous No.2071945]

Indian here. My favorite poets are (in no particular order):
1. Nissim Ezekiel
2. Kamala Surraiya
3. Thiruvalluvar
4. Rabindranath Tagore
5. Sarojini Naidu

[Anonymous No.2071949]

>Tennyson
>Poe
>Whitman
>Blake
>Stevenson

[Anonymous No.2071977]

I'm seeing a lot of Whitman, and am curious as to what you enjoyed about his work Leaves of Grass. It seemed to be merely a sort of manifesto for the New World, where all are equal and optimism and liberty are the highest values.

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2071982]

>>2071915
What rumi and hafiz translators did you read? If coleman barks and daniel ladinsky, a lot of their stuff are originals. Fitzgerald's translations are really good though, if that is what your khayyam was.. he did a pretty good translation of attar's conference of the birds too. Who are nirzami and ferdowsi?

>>2070590
Don't be a dick. I like Poetry to touch on music and pure image which is what Poe and Pound did.

>>2071945
No Kabir?

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2071985]

>>2071982
didn't mean to sage

[Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ No.2071986]

>>2071945
No kipling?

[Anonymous No.2071993]

eliot, jeffers, zukofsky, gavin douglas, liao yiwu

[Anonymous No.2071997]

>>2071982
I dont know which translator I read for Hafiz, but I'm pretty sure I read Coleman Barks for Rumi. And Edward Fitzgerald for Khayyam as well.
Nizami wrote the most famous version of 'Layla and Majnun' (Eric Clapton fans would have heard of 'Layla', which was inspired by this tale of doomed love).
Ferdowsi wrote the 'Shahnameh', which is the national epic of Iran and probably the most important work of Zoroastrian literature. It was recommended to me by an Iranian friend and though it's long, it's well worth the read.

[Anonymous No.2072002]

Rimbaud
Baudelaire
Verlaine
Ponge
Apollinaire

[Anonymous No.2072009]

>>2071982
*facepalm*
I knew I had forgotten someone. Kabir and Mirabai are simply wonderful.
Arun Kolatkar, Syed Amanuddin and Eunice D'Souza are all good as well.

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2072016]

>>2071997
oh okay. i think you should check out attar if you haven't already, since you like rumi and hafiz.

[Anonymous No.2072029]

>>2072016
Sure, thanks for the recommendation :)
Also, he may not be Persian but you really should check out Yunus Emre.

[hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs No.2072035]

>>2072029
I recently got an anthology of sufi poetry, Yunus emre is one of the poets included in it :)

[Anonymous No.2072068]

>>2072035
I only got into Sufi poetry because of my Iranian and Afghan friends. In their culture, their fathers gather the children around and read Rumi, Hafiz etc. (in the original Farsi) out loud to inculcate an appreciation for Sufi poetry from an early age.

[Anonymous No.2072193]

Walt Whitman
Stephen Crane
Carl Sandburg
William Blake
Jim Morrison