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It appears my superioritey has led to some controversey

>> No.20695758

Too based for this world.

>> No.20695766

If only I could a fraction of Wagner's genius, then I'd be a god amongst men.

captcha is gay: kysop

>> No.20695770

This dude's facial situation makes it look like his head is on backwards

>> No.20695893

Was trimming your beard like a Covid mask really a thing in Romantic Germany?

>> No.20696226

the only accurate use of this now retired meme

>> No.20696740

why does he make people seethe so much? why can't people just appreciate good art and a good artist?

>> No.20696753

Literally anti-Semtism is all the modern masses need know to dismiss someone entirely but that’s what they’re taught so you tell me

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>> No.20696872

~Nietzsche at late 1870s Bayreuth

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>Nietzsche's objections to Wagner's music are physiological—as he listens to Wagner's music his whole body feels discomfort: He does not breathe easily, his feet begin to rebel, as they do not find a desire to dance or march being satisfied.

>> No.20697042

wag(n)er l(ie)d(tzsche cried).

>> No.20697124

I always felt like Nietzsche needed to distance himself from Wagner so he could become his own self. I think his critiques on Wagner should be seen in that perspective.

>> No.20697131

that's a good analysis. i feel like Nietzsche's overbearing family stunted his development of personality

>> No.20697145

Nietzche stole all his ideas from lesser known writers of his time.
When confronted with Wagner he knew he could not get away with plagiarising him.
Plus he is a herd animal in comparison to Wagner.

>> No.20697204

I think these letters prove that:

>The friendship deepened into something like a father-son connection. "Strictly speaking, you are, aside from my wife, the one prize I have received in life," Wagner wrote to his disciple in 1872. Later, in a draft of the preface to the second part of Human, All Too Human, Nietzsche described the relationship as "my only love-affair," before striking the phrase from his proofs.
>"I always think of him with gratitude, because to him I am indebted for some of the strongest incitements to intellectual independence" (letter, 14 January 1880).
>"Certainly those were the best days of my life, the ones I spent with him at Tribschen and through him in Bayreuth (1872, not 1876)… And the disillusionment and leaving Wagner – was not that putting my very life in danger? Have I not needed almost six years to recover from that pain?" (3 February 1882).
>"I have had such experiences with this man and his work, and it was a passion which lasted a long time – passion is the only word for it. The renunciation that it required, the rediscovering of myself that eventually became necessary, was among the hardest and most melancholy things that have befallen me" (16 July 1882).
>"I am better now and I even believe that Wagner's death was the most substantial relief that could have been given me just now. It was hard for six years to have to be the opponent of the man one had most reverenced on earth, and my constitution is not sufficiently coarse for such a position. After all it was Wagner grown senile whom I was forced to resist; as to the genuine Wagner, I shall yet attempt to become in a great measure his heir (as I have often assured Fräulein Malvida, though she would not believe it)." (19 February 1883).

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