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>it’s a Levin chapter

>> No.20688294
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>it’s a Levin chapter

>> No.20688298

>clippity clip the grass

>> No.20688329

>>20688298
That whole scene was embarrassing. Peasant and poor worship. If Tolstoy was alive today, the equivalent scene would be some black drug dealer and muh noble negroes

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>It’s a Levin o’clock

>> No.20688404

Is there really that many Brits from “noble” stock posting here?
You work for MI6 or something?

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>>20688274
>Idiot by Dosto
>it's party scene

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> The Doll by Prus
> I'ts a Rzecki chapter

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>reading The Sound and the Fury
>it’s the Benjy chapter

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>>20688274
>Death in Venice
>Tadzio on the beach chapter

>> No.20689305

>>20688329
Way to misread it. It's picturesque because it's from Levin's point of view and he isn't normally doing all that labor.

He shows the peasants and uneducated yokels in other scenes. For example, when the peasants begin to freak out when Napoleon is getting close and want to start looting, but then the steward scares them by implying he can see into the ground beneath the lead instigator (i.e. that he's a sorcerer), which delays them long enough for Rostov to show up.

Sometimes the soldiers are seen in a picturesque view, but that's Rostov's glory goggles. The dark side comes in with them sexually harassing the daughter of the poor peasant trying to flee the French in his wagon. And the flip side of the gallant charge of Prince Andre is Petya charging and just catching a bullet to the dome and boom, there goes a character that's been around for 1,300 pages in one stray shot

The way Tolstoy shows how people see things in idealized forms and then switches into a realist lens is part of his greatness.

>> No.20689313

>>20689305
And yes, that's example from another book, but I've read War and Peace multiple times and Anna Karenina only once, a few years ago, so the examples don't come to mind as quickly.

But the wheat scene isn't cringe. The only cringe part was when Levin and Kitty are spelling out the letters with each other.

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>it's a Fyodor Pavlovich scene

>> No.20689349

>it's an Anasurimbor Kellhus scene

>> No.20689363

>>20689349
Not a faggot, so who is that? Pretty sure Tolstoy never had a character with that name.

>> No.20689370

>>20689305
>>20689313
Many anons here cum their pants over that scene. What does that say about them?

>> No.20689407

>>20688418
kek

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>>20689363
It's the Darkness That Comes Before, the peak of genre fiction.

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>>20689313
>The only cringe part was when Levin and Kitty are spelling out the letters with each other

>> No.20690918

>>20689305
>>20689313
I feel like the shift from idealization to realism you talk about doesn't actually happen in Levins case. It's almost all idealization, at least in the second half of the book.

>> No.20691530

>>20690918
Because Levin + Kitty are the idealized happy relationship. The relationships he says are all the same in the opening of the book, while every unhappy relationship is different.

Anna and Vronsky have so much more depth, although at times they are shown to be shallow too.


The point is partly that Levin is happy because he idealizes parts of life and doesn't look into the grit.

Obviously it's not that Tolstoy was a full on proto-SR who worshipped the peasants because his other books and stories sometimes show them as violent, uneducated retards. But for Levin, leaving things simple and focusing on piety leads to a higher, idealized understanding.

Sort of like how Andre is clearly in many ways the emotional and intellectual superior of Pierre, but he is unhappy and his relationship with Natasha falls apart because he can't deal with imperfection. He only glimpses peace when he is staring at the "lofty sky" the first time he almost died, and then as he dies. Pierre bumbles, but is earnest and improves.

This is the influence of German piety in Russia at the time, at least partly.

>> No.20691831

>>20688294
fpbp

>> No.20692256

>>20691530
Interesting, I hadn't considered that Tolstoy might have intentionally portrayed happiness as a more "shallow" state of being.

>The point is partly that Levin is happy because he idealizes parts of life and doesn't look into the grit.
If we accept that Levin's view is highly idealized then it opens up the possibility that the people around him aren't as happy as he thinks they are. Then again that might be in line with Levin's character as somewhat selfish. But it seems like a strangely selfish message. I can't help but feel like Tolstoy was a little too blinded by his own marital happiness at the time to see the more sinister sides of it.

>> No.20692760

>>20689445
I don’t read children’s books.

>> No.20692836

Read the book a few years ago but from my memory Levin was poked fun at for being a naive romanticizing dork.