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why was ayn rand so obsessed with trains and industry?

>> No.20680663

I don't know, why are you so obsessed in making low-effort threads?

>> No.20680673

A thread died for this.

>> No.20680674

>>20680660
Why is ayn rand so obsessed with art deco and vidya
>>20680663
He didnt this is the best thread we had all day

>> No.20680688
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non-meme answer: this book (which is schizo kino) is essentially an idealized version of her own life story and depicts a young woman upset by the gender roles of her time. she spends much of the book seething about expectations of women in early 20th century Russia, and in the book she studies engineering in order to become an epic captain of industry and thumb her nose at all the people like her dad who say such a job is not for women. ayn rand spent her entire life mad she was born a woman and her books are all about simping for the kind of powerful man she wishes she could be. read this shit though it's dope.

>> No.20680707

Ayn Rand is a person I really hate but also like at the same time

>> No.20680713

>>20680660
That's just the way the economy was. If you read the Intelligent Investor all the examples are railroads and shit like that.

>> No.20680982

>>20680660
because of her very flat imagination

>> No.20681150

>>20680660
In The Fountainhead, Miss Rand was obsessed with a guy in his early twenties building big tall buildings that thrust up into the pure virginal air.

In Atlas Shrugged she was obsessed with a guy who builds big powerful trains that thrust their way through the virginal landscape.


Dunno, anyone got any ideas?

>> No.20681159

>>20680660
She had le autism. A rare condition for the female but it can happen.

>> No.20681318

>>20680660
She was born in a shithole. You see the same thing with Indians.

>> No.20681320

>>20681318
We should import more upper caste indians to America. Everyone would benefit

>> No.20681334
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>>20680660
who doesn't love trains
trains are cool

>> No.20681904

>>20681150
she was the one who ran the trains, did you even read the book?

>> No.20681946

>>20681904
If by "she" you mean the self-insert, she was just some colourless middle executive, IIRC. The man in question was the guy who actually build the tracks, with his POWERFUL METAL.

>> No.20681973

>>20680660
Train = Dick
Industry = Male Greatness

Meaning she wanted dick from a great male.

>> No.20682215

>>20681946
she was the vice president but she basically ran the entire company, her useless brother was president but he basically just handled "washington" and corrupt stuff

>> No.20682227

>>20680660
Read the essay collection Return of the Primitive: the Anti-Industrial Revolution

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>>20680660
I don't like these feminist women who larp as "conservative". If you are a woman and truly conservative then you would shut your mouth and stay at home cooking and cleaning instead of writing these shitty atheist books for fat libertarian retards.

>> No.20682269

>>20680660
Because they're fucking cool. The aesthetics are by far the best part of Ayn Rand.

>> No.20682273

>>20682269
She is as soulless and materialist as the stupid commies.

>> No.20682275

>>20682250
Ayn Rand never identified herself as a conservative and in fact shat on them multiple times (and was shat on by them in return). Read the essay Conservatism: an Obituary.

>> No.20682297

>We the Living
>Kira gets dicked by bourgeois chad and communist chad

>The Fountainhead
>Dominique invites Roark to rape her then willingly whores herself out to Keating and Wynand while fucking Roark on the side

>Atlas Shrugged
>Dagny jumps from cock to cock from Francisco to Rearden to Galt, each of them taking the love of their life abandoning them in a bizarre nonchalant way

>> No.20682300

>>20681946
The powerful metal guy was another person. The one she was into was the guy who build that amazing motor.

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>>20682275
>Ayn Rand never identified herself as a conservative and in fact shat on them multiple times
All the more reason this dumb bitch can fuck right off.
She's just a watered down, soulless copy of Nietzche for lowbrow retards. I don't even like Nietzche but at least he wasn't some dumb jewess.

>> No.20682316

>>20682273
>muh soul muhfugga, muh saints, muh mysteries and compassion for niggers
Don't care

>> No.20682330

I won't read Ayn Rand because she was a woman and also because she was ugly.

>> No.20682337

>>20680688
>depicts a young woman upset by the gender roles of her time. she spends much of the book seething about expectations of women in early 20th century Russia
Jews are all like this.

>> No.20682340

>>20682250
>>20682275
>>20682305
She disliked conservatives, Christianity and libertarians/anarchists. It's really strange how these 4 are her main audience now.

>> No.20682341

>>20682305
You can't just heckin cast the people who made the modern world as heroes, that's declassé! Wait till my trans friends hear about this.

>> No.20682348

>>20682305
>copy of Nietzche

Except really early on, she opposed Nietzsche. Read the essay Apollo and Dionysius.

>> No.20682353

>>20682340
That was her entire purpose. To subvert conservatism in America. Same as Goldwater.
She was like the Frankfurt School, but for conservatism.

>> No.20682354

>>20680660
America's lack of public trains is representation of everything wrong with America.

>> No.20682364

>>20682341
retard

>> No.20682365

>>20682353
Conservatism in America failed when it refused to seriously fight the Warran Court and the Civil Rights legislation. They didn't need Rand for that.

>> No.20682372

>>20682365
It failed with the 19th amendment.

>> No.20682384

>>20682372
The 19th amendment didn't actually change much because states could and did institute poll taxes for single women. It was basically just double votes for married men.

>> No.20682393

People like Ayn Rand make the same logical fallacy as Marxists.
If your worldview is pure materialism then you have no basis on which to make value judgements of how things "should" be. There is no "should" if you want to be a materialist. Things simply are.

>> No.20682396

>>20682364
Oh sorry, are you the trad cath or evolatard flavor of anti-modernoid instead of the tranny kind? My bad

>> No.20682404

>>20682396
>trannies
>anti-modern
??????????????????????

>> No.20682407

>>20682393
Read John Galt's speech and the essay The Objectivist Ethics.

>> No.20682427

>>20682404
Yes. Lots of overlap with gnosticism and evola-tards, actually.

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>>20682407
>>20682348
>>20682227
>Read the entire author's bibliography
I'm not wasting my time with this talmudic shit. Either explain her reasoning and present an actual argument or shut up.

>> No.20682439

>>20682427
Modernity is gnostic. Just look at transhumanism.

>> No.20682450

>>20680660
Autism and amphetamine addiction.

>> No.20682489

>>20682439
I fail to see how wanting to escape reality is a pro-modern sentiment

>> No.20682495
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>Ayn Randianism
>Marxism
>Zionism
>globalism
Fundamentally, these ideologies are all the same. Utopian fantasies. They are Jews trying to find salvation through political and economic means instead of in the Lord Jesus Christ. They are the same as the Pharisees who crucified Jesus because they wanted their Messiah to be a political savior who would overthrow the Roman authorities and make Israel into a strong nation.
It is the religion of Antichrist.

>> No.20682532

>>20680688
>she spends much of the book seething about expectations of women in early 20th century Russia
No, she doesn't.

>and in the book she studies engineering in order to become an epic captain of industry and thumb her nose at all the people like her dad
She gets expelled from uni very early on in the book and spends the rest of the story in a menial job. The character is also mostly respectful of her father, it's with her mother and sister that she clashes. Most of the boom is spent with her whoring herself to a high ranking communist to get enough money to send her bourgeois boyfriend to treat his tuberculosis, and then she gets shot while trying to flee Russia.

Why do most of Rand's critics know nothing of what she actually wrote? They shit on her based on arguments other people used and solely because they want to be in the cool kid's club like the second-handers they are

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>>20682532
Sorry, it's my duty to shit on Jews and I don't read women.

>> No.20682561

>>20682555
You're a retard but you made me laugh