/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20673431]

The modern world is so devoid of
aesthetics, you can't even write a book in setting of it without your book being dull and meaningless. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.20673450]

>>20673431
you know that aesthetics is a collective noun, right?

[Anonymous No.20673792]

There’s some truth to what you’re saying. I consider the thought exercise of writing a realistic contemporary novel. What would I write? A 40 minute commute? A work from home job? I agree it’s hard to find aesthetic inspiration in the contemporary world, the Western world especially.

[Anonymous No.20673799]

>>20673431
You can always explore the human mind being exposed to such a world. A good writer will always write good books.

[Anonymous No.20673807]

>>20673431
Why is this image so hot? I've masturbated to it five times in the last hour.

[Anonymous No.20673811]

>>20673431
>tfw not from a Western country
It can get pretty weird out there anon, probably also in your country when you go to the weird places.
Like flyover states, what's the deal with those? How can people live there?

[Anonymous No.20673855]

>>20673811
The truth is that there is little difference between urban and suburban America regardless of state and region. Life around San Francisco and life around Boston are more or less the same.

[Anonymous No.20673861]

>>20673855
I was thinking of rural USA, deep West Virginia, some swamp in Florida.
And depressing Nebraska and those states, they appear depressing to me at least.

[Sage No.20673868]

You literally only made this thread so you could post this picture. Low effort, off topic. Get saged and reported.

[ESL No.20673911]

>>20673431
>write a book in setting of it
I don't understand what this means

[Anonymous No.20673915]

>>20673431
Just describe how devoid of meaning it is, wouldn't that give it some meaning?

[Anonymous No.20673927]

>>20673915
An absurd tale of a wagie finding meaning in the meaningless and living an absurdly fullfilled life.

[Anonymous No.20673966]

>>20673861
Yeah, but like most rural places there’s a comfiness there precisely because you’re removed from the city and closer to nature. But yeah, it’s pretty much the same everywhere.

[Anonymous No.20674038]

>>20673861
Rather the countryside than any shithole, antihuman USA city or town. Even soggy bogland has more to feed the spirit

[Anonymous No.20674063]

>>20674038
>>20673966
There's countryside and then there's Deliverance

[Anonymous No.20674103]

>>20673431>>20673855

>The modern world is so devoid of
>aesthetics,
i love how bugmen keep saying, when the whole coooommercial society is based on aesthetics instead of functionality, in order to coom better. Prime illustration is of crouse the bug megacorp, ie Apple.

[Anonymous No.20674110]

>>20674063
You’ll find deliverance in just about every US state. But what is it exactly you think those people do? They work for corporations. It’s really not that backwater.

[Anonymous No.20674125]

>>20674103
the aesthetics it chooses are retarded. For example porn, I'm a sex/masturbation addict like everyone else but I can't watch porn, the women are just too fugly. The aesthetic it's going for is basically shock value and functionality, biggest fakest girl and most gratuitous unsensual shots of dick in vagina for peak stimulation. What professional porn never focuses on is the beauty of the women or camera angles that are intimate or pretty. One form of aesthetics is wholly neglected in favor of a weird utilitarian aesthetic that disregards beauty as being inconvenient.

[Anonymous No.20674128]

>>20674103
Yeah, but it’s lowest common denominator aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.20674140]

I don't know if it's the poly substance abuse, or just the lack of or adjacency to creative people, but man, I feel the dull, boring, and meaninglessness of modern culture. Everything is literally about politics. Academia is the most tedious thing too. Great, I can write a paper, or synthesize ideas about other ideas, but literally no one gives a fuck, apparently this is supposed to be an opportunity of self discovery but all I'm doing is regurgitating information in the correct format. I hate this so much, I'm talking deep academic reforms required if anything meaningful is going to be accomplished. Then politics on the layer cake that is modern existence, trying desperately to steer anything towards anything. It's all so trite and boring. Where are the drug bars, where are the crash pads, the open use, the schizophrenic coherence this strait-lace pedant needs? The ecstatic orgy and deep participation, that little revolution that changes it all?

[Anonymous No.20674286]

>>20674103
hylic post

[Anonymous No.20674356]

>>20673807
Women in unkempt disheveled casual shit is hot
She probably masturbated after this

[Anonymous No.20674412]

>>20673431
>you can't even write a book in setting of it without your book being dull and meaningless
I don't agree. It might not be a book, but look at something like Breaking Bad. Modern setting, but it's still intense, dramatic, and full of passion / interesting characters, and someone had to write it that way.

[Anonymous No.20674580]

>>20674412
Breaking Bad is not a book.

[Anonymous No.20675629]

yes

[Anonymous No.20675693]

>>20673431
>>20673431
You sound like an ESL autismo (the bad kind)

[Anonymous No.20676621]

>>20674580
it is a power trip for numales

[Anonymous No.20676656]

>>20673927
Don Quixote?

[Anonymous No.20676669]

>>20673431
Read this if you'd like to know more

[Anonymous No.20677052]

Leave Society

[Anonymous No.20677078]

>>20673431
>”modern life has no aesthetics”
>posts aesthetic image of modern life
???????????

[Anonymous No.20677817]

>>20673431
You need to go back to Joyce and climb your way up the literature of the last 100 years because it's absolutely full of incredible books, and this thread only shows that you don't read.

[Anonymous No.20677825]

>>20673792
>>20673431
you have a weak imagination

[Anonymous No.20677851]

>>20674140
>Academia is the most tedious thing too
I feel like I am too old for this board now that I am past my thirties and I cringe really hard at university students, whose parents throw money at to go study, complaining about academia. You have it good, just stop caring about institutions, do the bare minimum required for your courses, and read your own stuff. Any associations of humans is by nature regressive and asks the sacrifice of your individuality in order to function, so the earlier you stop putting your faith in these things, the better. Steal time from them and not get caught, if you can. And trust me when I say that the real horror lies beyond: wait until you get a job (if you ever do).

[Anonymous No.20678908]

>>20677851
I'm an independent student in my 30's. I've been in the work-force for a decade now, and am juggling a job and course load.

I want an aesthetic renaissance, I want Tokyo Florence in America. I want cobbled streets and artisans to make my city-dwelling experience beautiful. LED mosaics, beautiful metal work, amphetamine bars. But no, the modern protestants want some pseudo apocalypse so they can be the savior. It's so cliche and sucks the creative energy out of everything. I just want to live in my studio ghibli fantasy renaissance town with witches and wizards who care.

[Anonymous No.20678957]

>>20677817
I would argue this is the real problem. The modern world isn't lacking depth, it wears the mask of simplicity because otherwise it's unbearable in its expansiveness.
The requirement for being well read during Joyce's time was already a gargantuan task. Add another hundred years and double that amount in books (all to be read in the original; learn five or six languages fluently, translations kill the soul) to be cultured in the craft and be able to write a decent work that can express vividly the world we live in. The only plus is that the internet exists, but in the sea of meaningless information and endless diversions all engineered to take advantage of your primal drives, and in an irreparably atomized society where the looming necessity to produce and consume is always present, I'm not sure the magical tool alone is enough consolation.
To see modern society as it is, to know literature deeply enough to be able to write something that's not shit, to have innate talent, hyperexcitability and enough life experience to develop a deeply reflexive sense of self in a world that actively fights against every one of these traits? You're asking for the kind of genius that may never come. It's unfair to expect your usual, tiny, half blind ape addicted to corn syrup and brain rotting drugs to even know where they stand. No fucking wonder propaganda rules the world.

[Anonymous No.20679055]

>>20673431
Not a particularly interesting thread idea. Authors have been lamenting this shit for ages, and authors have been finding beauty in their own time for ages.

[Anonymous No.20679071]

>>20674140
Indeed

For that reason, I've decided to take drastic measures with writing
(and increase my drug/alcohol intake)

[Anonymous No.20679542]

Ukulele whistle hearin', alegría drawin', beyond meat-eatin', influencer-followin', streamer-donatin', DLC-buyin', NFT-collectin', current thing-supportin', smartphone-addicted, cinematic universe-exited, black people worshiper, ponzi-pumpin' modern man!

[Anonymous No.20679688]

>>20673431
What about that architecture thing were they build a modern design into an old facade?

[Anonymous No.20679899]

>>20673431
That's where creativity shines. You can't really write a novel out in the wilderness with real characters, but the absurdity of western culture has been fertile writing grounds for decades. You can criticize both sides of the political spectrum or just one. You can have nuanced arguments, rather than DUDE MCDONALD'S LMAO you can point out the homogenization of the restaurants and its depressing new architecture for a deteriorating culture and society.

[Anonymous No.20680133]

>>20677851
You really shouldn't assume everyone who complains about academia is currently an undergraduate student in their early 20s funded by their parents

[Anonymous No.20680146]

>>20678957
that's why we need Pneumatics, /lit/'s original theory of everything that systematizes and characterizes everything

[Anonymous No.20680177]

>>20679688
That's a palimpsest.

[Anonymous No.20680264]

>>20673431
That's what happens when your society is driven by materialism, consoomerism and has no culture and traditions. Everything is bland, sterile and soulless. The western world is like a cultural and civilizational post-apocalyptic world. It's like everything ended after WW2 and you had to start from scratch, while still knowing some few basic things

[Anonymous No.20680282]

>>20680264
While I agree with your sentiment, there was tons of great stuff that came out the second half of the previous century. I think 9/11 has more to do with the apocalyptic feeling the West and obviously now the Great Reset shit. Its hard to compete with such an outrageous spectacle like the planes hitting the towers, you gotta destroy the world as well to be compelling. Thats why a show like Walking Dead was very popular at one point

[Anonymous No.20680402]

>>20679688
it just shows lack of creativity and aesthetics by modernists

[Anonymous No.20681975]

>>20673431
I like dull and meaningless
maybe read Pattern Recognition by William Gibson or Glamorama by Brett Easton Ellis

[Anonymous No.20682006]

>>20680264
Consumerism is culture.