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Theres something magical about this book, man. How did young Pynch manage to write a novel this complex and challenging but also pure, without coming across as a tryhard. He started writing it when he was 20, I’m 20 and I can never come up with such outline for the story, merging of abstract concepts and whacky characters all while conveying it in beautiful prose. God cursed me being a retard so all I can do is read the works of smarter people than me, I can never write myself.

>> No.20673473

the difference between you and pynchon?
pynchon never said pathetic woe-is-me shit like this.

>> No.20673482

I found it to be the weakest/least realized of his works, but again it was his debut. A bridge, if you will, between his short stories (mostly forgettable) and CoL49 when he really came into himself. This also feels the most Gaddis like of his novels, and I don't know if it's ever been confirmed if he had read Gaddis or not, but it certainly feels influenced by The Recognitions.

Having said that, I'm not at all saying it's bad, and especially considering his age it is disheartening for those who want to write and be faced with the fact that an early twenties Pynchon at his debut is better than anything one will ever write.

>> No.20673488

>>20673473
you dont know him retard, he’s probably not even a single person but a collective of faggoty new york writers or a glownigger experiment
>>20673423
yeah you are a wimpy faggot, cry about it

>> No.20673577

Pynchon ghostwrites lyrics

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>>20673482
Interesting you picked up on the common thread with The Recognitions. I imagine it comes from common influences not limited to their relationship with New York City.

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>>20673488
>you dont know him retard, he’s probably not even a single person but a collective of faggoty new york writers or a glownigger experiment
>>>20673423 (OP)
>yeah you are a wimpy faggot, cry about it

>> No.20673947

>>20673596
???

>> No.20674129

>>20673423
I've been trying to figure out how he wrote it. We know about the Baedekers and the Sudwest stuff. You can sorta see how the ideas are woven throughout, which just leaves us the question of where dafuq did he get da bawls to write sometin like dis actually i think i know the answer to that

>> No.20674139

>>20673423
Haven't read it, what makes it so great? I've read like the first page of various Pynchon novels and it never really blew my socks off.

>> No.20674152

Maybe my fave of his, despite how scrappy and overstuffed with ideas it is.
I seethe that he had such talent at such a young age (whereas I am incapable of writing even good shiteposts) but he did have esoteric Mayflower magic and predestination on his side. The bastard.

>> No.20674187

>>20674139
Its prose is weird and beautiful. You get a twisted up view of NYC and Africa and Valetta and WWI and a bunch of other places I'm not going to list right now.

The postmodernist games being played are brain whirring but they're subtle and they don't get in the way.

You're not going to get a sense of where the novel goes from the first page or first chapters but by Mondaugen's Story the book is going buckwild.