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Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:31:17 2022 No.20645864 [Reply] [Original]

>Harold Bloom
>Mortimer J. Adler
>Will Durant
>Pic related
Who has the best "what to read" list?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:37:07 2022 No.20645881 File: 26 KB, 1092x1037, 5845cd230b2a3b54fdbaecf7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20645864 >ywn go to this school Can you imagine being a 30yo with a job and trying to self-teach this curriculum? Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:37:08 2022 No.20645882 >>20645864 At least they are trying to prepare seniors for entering the workforce by having them read The Metamorphosis by Kafka

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:43:55 2022 No.20645906 >>20645864 Me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:46:45 2022 No.20645914 >>20645864 Bloom >Gives out specific translations on what to read >Included Epic of Gilgamesh and other "Eastern" works >Realizes Shakespeare is king

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 08:02:25 2022 No.20646462 >>20645864 I have no idea who those guys are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 08:06:19 2022 No.20646473 >>20645864 >phaedrus twice

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 08:08:43 2022 No.20646483 >>20645914 Why did you put eastern in quotes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 09:43:09 2022 No.20646698 >>20645882 kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 09:52:05 2022 No.20646711 >>20646483 Because the East is not real, only an alleged location

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 10:40:44 2022 No.20646833 >>20646483 Because it's debated what is "East" and "West". Some say Russia isn't "the west".

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 13:49:52 2022 No.20647437

>>20645881
It's plausible, but it does take a lot of desire to do so and regulation of time outside of work.

Mind, quite a few of these books you could spend your whole life going back over, while a four year program is a nice occasion to have to sit and focus on them, you'd get much less out of them than you'd like.

>>20646473
They read Phaedrus at the end 0f Freshman and Senior year, since it's about speeches, reading, and writing, so it's, I guess, a tidy way to cap off what the students have been doing for four years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 14:30:44 2022 No.20647557 >>20645864 Mortimer J Adler’s is the most straightforward. Bloom includes way too much, this St John’s list is too wacky with its inclusion of old scientific and mathematical works and American focused, and idk Durant’s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 17:50:28 2022 No.20648225 >>20645881 It has a very high acceptance rate >60% and a reputation that a lot of the students only pretend to do the reading.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 18:16:11 2022 No.20648325 >>20645881 I'm 40 without one, I'm learning fast. must be the autism

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:30:51 2022 No.20648831

>>20645864
Try Clifton Fadiman's Lifetime Reading Plan.

I like that one because it's a good combination of mostly Western with enough Eastern to give context (at least with the latest edition co-edited by Major), without an excessive emphasis on particular domains. Adler focuses too much on "thought" works which emphasize ideas and the philosophies of an era with an inadequate emphasis on pure art, while Bloom skews too far the other way and emphasizes aesthetic quality over historical and philosophical context (to say nothing of his full list's prohibitive length)--Fadiman splits the difference, to decent effect.

That said, once you finish Fadiman (230-ish books, chronologically please, grasshopper), you can absolutely use all the remaining lists you've posted (particularly Bloom) to fill in the gaps, though now with sufficient context to see how each of these additional works was informed by the signal texts of each era.

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:34:40 2022 No.20648850

>>20645914
You can easily find a good translation through your own research by keeping in mind your purposes for reading

Also, Gilgamesh originates from the river valley civilization from which Western Society springs--it was axial in that regard, not Eastern

Read a fucking book

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:39:00 2022 No.20648879 http://sonic.net/~rteeter/greatbks.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:56:21 2022 No.20648984 >>20645864 >>20648879 Also: https://thegreatestbooks.org/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 22:56:42 2022 No.20649450 >>20648984 Thanks

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:15:51 2022 No.20649503

https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/catalogue-of-books-from-mudies-circulating-library

>https://eggsa.org/1820-settlers/index.php/records-of-the-cape-colony

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/

>https://www.otago.ac.nz/english-linguistics/tudor/reference.html

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebogroup/

>http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/index.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/wiki/books

>https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?page=browse&cc=ecco&c=ecco

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/h/homeop?cginame=text-idx;id=navbarbrowselink;page=browse

>https://quod.lib.umich.edu/c/cme/browse.html

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/modsbookfull.asp

>http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/collections

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/home.html

>https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b3449120&view=1up&seq=15

https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/lists.html

>https://www.bartleby.com/cambridge/index.html

http://www.fullbooks.com/

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:17:39 2022 No.20649509

>https://www.fulltextarchive.com/

https://www.forgottenbooks.com/en

>https://lexundria.com/

http://www.attalus.org/index.html

>https://www.tertullian.org/

https://topostext.org/texts

>https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?page=browse&cc=moa&c=moa

http://www.luminarium.org/

>https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/8244.Loompanics_Unlimited

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/index.html

>https://maps.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/history_shepherd_1911.html

https://www.ccel.org/index/title/A

>https://www.fadedpage.com/index.php

https://digital.nls.uk/encyclopaedia-britannica/archive/190218840

>https://www.telelib.com/authors.html

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Fantastic-Four-1961

>https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:20:42 2022 No.20649513

https://library.uniteddiversity.coop/

>http://www.lesatkins.com/books/epubfiles/

https://worldradiohistory.com/

>http://www.pauladaunt.com/books/

https://joycefoundation.utulsa.edu/resource-center/bibliography-works-on-james-joyce/books-finnegans-wake/

>https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:25:51 2022 No.20649523

https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/thomas.htm

>http://gospelofthomas.nazirene.org/philip.htm

https://rejectedscriptures.weebly.com/book-of-veles.html

>https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert

https://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:33:14 2022 No.20649547 I DON'T KNOW BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD HEXAGONS WILL ROT YOUR SOUL

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 23:49:35 2022 No.20649604

>>20645864
I'm torn. I tried this year doing SJC's reading list. It's great but halfway through I wasn't feeling like I was learning anything. Their reading schedule is also very intense – Junior or Senior year they read War & Peace in two weeks. I'm sure it can be done but how do you enjoy a book that massive in such a short time?

Everyone is different and I think only you know what'll be best for your mind, soul, etc. when it comes to being well-read. What's the point in dragging yourself through Euclid's Elements if you don't care about math?

If you do have a natural curiosity then, of course, dig at the list. Nothing wrong with it!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 01:14:37 2022 No.20649868 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ZUCWXnswE

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 01:38:20 2022 No.20649955

>>20648831
>That said, once you finish Fadiman (230-ish books, chronologically please, grasshopper), you can absolutely use all the remaining lists you've posted (particularly Bloom) to fill in the gaps, though now with sufficient context to see how each of these additional works was informed by the signal texts of each era.
I like this idea. Pretty cool Fadiman was a cousin to William James Sidis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 04:50:59 2022 No.20650760 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 05:54:37 2022 No.20650930 >>20650760 Degenerate!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 06:37:37 2022 No.20651018 >>20650930 Phony!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 06:40:34 2022 No.20651024 racional XR P TD

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:58:53 2022 No.20652245 Թովմաս

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 16:54:29 2022 No.20653015 >>20645881 Are you me?

Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:30:28 2022 No.20653156

>>20648225
I know a guy who went there, and he would simply use SparkNotes for everything he could and pay 2-3 classmates for their notes on whatever remained. You could probably make enough to pay for a semester's worth of student loans if you study there and actually read the books

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:32:24 2022 No.20653160 >>20652245 Ո՞ր Թոմասը:

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 17:33:43 2022 No.20653163 >>20652245 Ո՞ր Թովմասը:

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:39:13 2022 No.20654602 >>20645881 Stupid frogposter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:34:14 2022 No.20654796 Bloom probably has the better list. However, it’s probably more important to read deeply and what you feel will enrich your life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 06:42:46 2022 No.20656019 >>20645881 Hey bro, you're not alone. Keep going.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 06:46:52 2022 No.20656028 >>20653156 i went to sjc. i can assure you that you would definitely be dis-enabled if you didnt do the reading

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 07:14:52 2022 No.20656074 >>20656028 Lol unlikely, so many bullshitters passed enablement and graduated

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