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>Uhh slave morality is LE BAD because umm...it just IS, okay!?

>> No.20633265

>a needy cuck for proofs
not okay.

>> No.20633451

>>20633250
He never said it's bad. He actually said that people who admire artists need to understand the amount of slave labour needed to allow those artists to make art.

>> No.20633935

Great thread OP

>> No.20634082

He actually provided arguments for it,in difference to you,faggot.

>> No.20634090

>LE BAD IS LE BAD IS LE BAD

>> No.20634105

>>20633250
Read Genealogy of Morals, you retard

>> No.20634126
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20634126

>EATING UGLY PEOPLE BAD EVEN THO THEY RICH IN PROTEINS

>> No.20634129

>people who are more powerful than me are evil because... THEY JUST ARE OK???
Commies, christfags and all slave moralists are pathetic

>> No.20634142

>>20633250
You have to go back

>> No.20634279

>>20633250
>THERE IS NO LE BAD!!!
>B-BUT THINGS I DON'T LIKE ARE LE BAD!!!

>> No.20634291

>>20634126
>he eats ugly things
Have some sense of anesthetics.

>> No.20634295

>>20633250
>ok guys hear me out
>I'm going to call people whose character I don't approve of uhhh SLAVES
>no no, they're not technically slaves, they would oppose being enslaved, but lets just assume they're slaves mentally mkay? Got it?
>now, would you like to be a SLAVE or would you kindly agree with my views?

>> No.20634315

>>20633250
>another thread for people who haven't read N to debate people who didn't understand him about whether it is based and redpilled to agree with him or not
also, yes.jpeg

>> No.20634365

>>20634129
People say shit like this but then when people who they don't like turn out to be stronger than them they seethe endlessly.
>Might Is Right(tm) >:)
>NO, NOT THAT KIND OF MIGHT!!111!!!1!! :,(

>> No.20634376

>>20634295
>ok technically they abolished slavery globally but only because they're slaves
>I would have done it using lightning bolts because no force limits my will, do you think I'm a slave?
>no I don't want to shoot lightning bolts right now, it's lunch time

>> No.20634400 [DELETED] 

>>20634365
>might is right
Wrong. There's not even such a thing as right or wrong

>> No.20634408

>>20634400
My cock in your mouth is right.

>> No.20634409

>>20634365
>might is right
Incorrect. There's not even such a thing as right or wrong

>> No.20634412

>>20634129
They're wrong because God said so. Cope and seethe.

>> No.20634413

>>20634409
MY ENORMOUS DICK DOWN YOUR ESOPHAGUS IS 100% CORRECT.

>> No.20634416

>>20634412
The god who willingly let himself get killed on a cross like a cuck? lol

>> No.20634426

>>20634409
Given any set of premises there is and we're handed premises like wanting life to continue. You can decide to ignore it all but then you would be wrong. You're correct that you're allowed to be wrong and live in aimless confusion.

>> No.20634434

>>20634426
>Given any set of premises there is and we're handed premises like wanting life to continue
What does this mean? Are there missing commas?

>> No.20634458

>>20634434
If x then y.
Given a premise/axiom like wanting to live there are right and wrong steps to achieve the goal.
We are made by a process with the goal of spreading sustainable life, there's at least that one implied axiom to everything you do. You're free to ignore the fundamental axioms, act like that's some freeing revelation and pretend you don't exist within in any context but that also has consequences for you.

>> No.20634469

>>20634458
Thanks, i get what you're saying.
And you're actually correct in that sense of the words. In my post i was referring to "right and wrong" as in the same as "good and evil".

>> No.20634477

>>20634295
>>now, would you like to be a SLAVE or would you kindly agree with my views?
Nietzsches' entire philosophical endeavor was to promote indivual thinking and to liberate it from the shackles of conformity. If you think he wanted people to agree to all of his views or to become "Niezscheans", you are sorely mistaken.

>> No.20634527

>>20634469
Modern ideas of evil are cartoonish like Satan the red goatman. You're not even supposed to relate the goat features to any symbolism or history like Satyrs. It's just a funny cartoon that means nothing.
The original Biblical ideas about evil are smart. Job mentions the traditional views at the time like the most popular one that still remains dominant, that evil is a kind of punishment. It's not, it's just anything adversarial to human will. This is a prerequisite for alienation from God, as in if we didn't have any adversary/evil we would be omnipotent/God.
Good is omnipotent so potential is good. This is consistent with the premises implicitly given to us.

>> No.20634879

>>20634365
don't confuse quantity with strength. A million downies can trample a bodybuilder, that doesn't make the retards the "stronger"
Let's not mention that you've ended up missing the bigger point by saying that, stupid christfag

>> No.20634935

>>20634365
"might makes right" is about how the winner decides truth. It doesn't mean the winner is automatically correct, as you seem to argue. I really don't see why this concept is so hard for morons to figure out.

>> No.20634982

>>20634935
Yes as in if I cut your head off there's nobody to argue that what I did was wrong. This is false, there are consequences and I almost definitely made the wrong choice by cutting your head off. In almost all situations this world offers. You can't jump on the almost and say that proves your exception is the rule.

>> No.20634988

>>20634982
>I almost definitely made the wrong choice by cutting your head off
Almost!

>> No.20635020

>>20634982
That's because you don't have power. If you were a very powerful person, like a king in a dictatorial absolute monarchy, you could cut that guy's head off without second thought and there would be no one to call you wrong for it.

>> No.20635024

>>20634988
Given no other information the principles of reality say the right and good thing to do is not cut your head off. How right or wrong it is is defined by external rules not by the murderer. How the murderer conceives of it and tells others is what he has control of but that's separate from the external consequences. If there were no external consequences life would have evolved differently. Reality does not match your model of reality.

>> No.20635023

>>20634982
you are thinking too small scale. In that scenario, the law and society in general have determined that beheading someone is wrong, and you will be subject to their consequences. They are the stronger, not you.

>> No.20635063

>>20634412
Just talked to God and he told me you're a faggot. Sorry, bro. God's word and all that.

>> No.20635073

>>20635023
>In that scenario
I said almost all scenarios. Two guys on an island, random cavemen. farmers, a king and his subject. Your belief in the power of violence has no basis in reality. It's hard to even imagine I once agreed with you.
>>20635020
Costs you some part of the very legitimacy your power is based on. It's a sign of weakness not strength and it always has consequences you can't control meaning you are giving up power instead of taking it. The guy you murdered was the last guy that knew the secret of Greek fire or whatever, or his kid would have saved your empire from barbs. You the retard emperor doomed your empire because muh absolute power.

>> No.20635085

>>20635073
>Your belief in the power of violence has no basis in reality
moron

as I said, you are thinking too small scale. History is the clash of worldviews, and the winner's worldview is the one that perpetuates itself. Your little example of a 1v1 is irrelevant