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20621883 No.20621883 [Reply] [Original]

why are so many authors gay/bi? is it true what they say about the sexual deviancy and creativity?
>oscar wilde
>kerouac
>burroughs
>ginsberg (beatniks lol)
>mishima
>thomas mann
>byron/shelley
>bret easton ellis
>evelyn waugh
>capote
>walt whitman
>chuck palahniuk
>H.C. andersen
>zweig
>jeremy bentham
>probably you

>> No.20621894

>>20621883
As a (irl) closet bi I can deny cause I suck at writing

>> No.20621900

>>20621883
>shelley
?

>> No.20621903

>>20621883
Fags have fembrains and can't into hard science so girly writing is all that is left.

>> No.20621914
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20621914

>>20621883
>probably you
No sir, not me.

>> No.20621949

>>20621883
You're making that list up. There really isn't a correlation between deviance and creativity, except if your metric is just being disgusting or retarded in a way that is frowned upon and pretending that's creative. This is the same way that BASEDENCE says women are more "creative." What they actually test for are violated social standards. Anyone can see a standard and understand it is possible to violate it, no creativity necessary.
If anything deviant authors just write what they coom to and it's easy for us to look back with retard goggles and see that as creativity when contrasted with the times.

>> No.20621958

>>20621883
>shelley
>byron

>> No.20621962

>>20621883
>that guy is gay
What a shame, he's hot. I'm sure he could make some lucky girl happy.

>> No.20621969

>>20621962
YWNBAW

>> No.20621972

>>20621883
>why are so many authors gay/bi?
because they want to get published

>> No.20621989

>>20621883
Abrahamism, especially Christianity, is inherently homosexual in disposition, so a culture heavily rooted in it will create latent homosexual tendencies in the men. Any tradition that involves worshiping the male human form, including nonsense about "holy flesh", will eventually create homosexual tendencies in the men and make the women whores. This is also why there are a lot of pornos starring Jesus.

>> No.20622004

>>20621914
>saved pictures of men he likes onto his device to look at and "use" later
ok retard

>> No.20622008

>>20621883
my guess is whatever energy that would used would have to get transferred to something else. especially if you couldn't be openly gay

>> No.20622050

>>20621883
homo authors are just like any other authors in this era because their desires are not suppressed. Maybe if the author lives in a homophobic country, then the person could potentially make something that stirs one heart.

>> No.20622071

>>20621883
It might be due to some mixture of masculine and feminine qualities. One notices that, among female authors of quality, lesbian tendencies are often present -- in fact, almost every female writer of note was a dyke, or at least bisexual: Sappho, Aphra Benn, Katherine Mansfield, Virginia Woolf, Marguerite Yourcenar, Iris Murdoch, Gertrude Stein, the list goes on. There are speculations about Emily Dickinson as well, though I do not know how credible they are. The only obvious exceptions to this lesbian supremacy in the field of letters that come to mind are Mary Shelley, and Austen and the Bronte sisters.

With regard to males: It is disturbing how long the list of male homosexual and bisexual writers is. Instead of trying to compile a list from memory, it would be better to scroll through the Western canon (and the Eastern canon too, and perhaps the Martian canon...) and scratch out the names of the heterosexuals (not that there are few of them). For instance, if we go back to the very beginning of the canon, we find our list already troubled by the sodomitical: more than half the seven great lyric poets of the Archaic era wrote love poems to boys, including Nietzsche's idol Theognis; Pindar was affected by this disease; the playwrights Sophocles and Euripides had multiple recorded amorous incidents; even the founder of stoicism was a lifelong pederast; and Socrates, though chaste, was unapologetic about his taste for handsome young men. We can be relieved, at least, by the fact that there is no indication Aeschylus had romances with boys, although he is credited with being the first writer to depict Achilles and Patroclus as romantically and sexually intertwined, and we find his son named as a beloved on a piece of pottery... But, well, that was a Greek vice! Surely the disproportionate number of (at least behaviourally) homosexual high-achievers (and this tendency extends beyond the realms of literature, as any student of Plutarch will attest) is merely culturally specific...

NO! What is happening? Wherever I travel, I am bummed. In Elizabeth's England, who are the eminent writers? William Shakespeare, Christopher Marlowe, and (well, a few pegs down the list) Richard Barnfield. With Ben Jonson alone am I safe. Don't even speak to me about Renaissance Florence... or fin de siecle Paris... or monarchist Paris... or interwar Paris... or about any of the Mohametan cities, nor about the courts of the Carolingian empire, nor the drawing rooms of the English nobility. The towering heights of the canon: Proust! Mann! Rimbaud! By God! What a horrific cavalcade of queens. Among modern English poets: Auden, Housman, Sassoon, Owen, Hopkins, Graves. I will extend an olive leaf and grant that Virgil's homosexual poems are probably purely conventional, an imitation of Greek bucolic poetry, and not autobiographical, despite the insinuations of later classical writers.

Also, Bentham, I don't think, was homosexual, though he wrote a defence of it.