/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.20586073]

Why don’t they have a worthwhile literature while Latin-America produced so many greats? What was lost when those Europeans settled the North American continent that wasn’t lost while they settled South America? Is it because the main cultural influence was British, the weakest of the main European literary traditions? Why was it not corrected after countless Germans, Italians, Irish etc. emigrated? From the top of my head they have Faulkner and arguably Melville and Poe, that seems like a weak harvest for 250 years of existence. And why are they so obsessed with this concept of the “Great American Novel”? Is it because they can only approach arts and culture through the lens of sports?

[Anonymous No.20586081]

>>20586073
Because you have absolutely dogshit taste in literature if you think latin america is better, you limp wristed loser

[Anonymous No.20586087]

>>20586073
Because America decided nature is its culture instead of history

[Anonymous No.20586093]

>>20586087
America is obsessed with its own history, the problem is that it's young

[Anonymous No.20586178]

>>20586081
Cope. Borges, Rulfo, Sabato, Machado de Assis, Arlt, Cortazar, Asturias just to name a few. What does American have to offer besides the aforementioned Faulkner? The pastiche of machismo of Hemingway and Bukowski? The mental masturbations of Pynchon? Roth? Franzen? Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.20586181]

In no order, just a small segment of American writers that highlight our obvious superiority and why OP is massive pleb faggot:
Hart Crane
Frank Stanford
Thomas Wolfe
Charles Olson
TS Eliot
Robert Creeley
Pynchon
Henry Miller
H. Thompson
Frank O’Hara
Herman Melville
Henry James
E. A. Poe
Robert Frost
W. Faulkner
Carson McCullers
James Baldwin
John Ashbery
William Carlos Williams
Wallace Stevens
Robert Bly
Tennessee Williams
Marianne Hauser
Philip Roth
Don DeLillo
Robert Duncan
Emerson
Alfred Starr Hamilton
William Gass
Hemingway
Fitzgerald
Marianne Moore
Ezra Pound
Robert Lowell
H.D.
Louis Zukofsky
James Schuyler
flannery o'connor
Truman Capote
PKD
David Markson
Gertrude Stein
Emily Dickinson
George Oppen
Langston Hughes
Anne Sexton
Sylvia Plath
Elizabeth Bishop
Adrienne Rich
James Merrill
James Purdy
John Knowles
William Gaddis
Frederick Exley
Donald Barthelme
Richard Brautigan
Steinbeck
Gabrielle Burton
William Lindsay Gresham
Updike
Upton Sinclair
Malamud
Walter Abish

[Anonymous No.20586189]

>>20586178
>sabato
>arlt
HahahahahahahahahahhahHaha holy shit thanks for the laugh

[Anonymous No.20586193]

>>20586181
Pitiable

[Anonymous No.20586196]

>Pitiable

[Anonymous No.20586208]

>>20586193
Spread your legs, let's get this over with honey

[Anonymous No.20586212]

>>20586181
>TS Eliot
You know your literary tradition is shit when you have to include a Brit whose greatest works dealt with the social reality of Britain and Europe and emigrated to the US later in life.

[Anonymous No.20586219]

>>20586212
Yawn. You’re a little wog faggot

[Anonymous No.20586226]

>>20586219
OH NO NO NO NO NO the little retard tried to delete his retarded post

[Anonymous No.20586227]

>>20586181
>TS Eliot
You know your literary tradition is shit when you have to list a writer who wrote his greatest works about Europe after emigrating there and renouncing his US citizenship.

[Anonymous No.20586232]

>>20586226
I got the order of his immigration wrong, still doesn’t change the fact that the Wasteland is about Europe and he renounced his US citizenship.

[Anonymous No.20586237]

>>20586227
>unfathomable seething and coping: the post
Post your chin, bud. Imagine being so retarded that you wrote pure insipid schlock because you have no idea what you’re talking about, then deleted it hoping no one would catch on

[Anonymous No.20586239]

>>20586232
Doesn't matter, you were wrong and now you have the right to be shamed

[Anonymous No.20586251]

>>20586073
this is a troll thread

[Anonymous No.20586266]

>>20586237
>>20586239
Massively coping to detract from the fact that you still haven’t been able to disprove the main point of the OP. Homing in on the fact that I mixed up some biographical details of a writer that is largely irrelevant to the original topic shows how desperate you really are.

[Anonymous No.20586291]

>>20586266
I posted a lost of a few american writers that “disproved”—you write like a reddit faggot—your retard post. Simply for the fact that you have only read 30 books in your entire life outside of high school does not mean everyone else is as retarded and has shit taste as the likes of you. Keep being a retard, but everyone already knows because it’s painfully obvious that you have not read 96% of the writers on my list. “Pitiable.”

[Anonymous No.20586302]

>Massively coping to detract from the fact that you still haven’t been able to disprove the main point of the OP. Homing in on the fact that I mixed up some biographical details of a writer that is largely irrelevant to the original topic shows how desperate you really are

[Anonymous No.20586310]

>>20586291
Why the fuck should I read 96% of the list when I’ve read about 50% and all but 3-4 were utterly pointless? You even listed the likes of Upton Sinclair and Henry Miller, which makes me doubt you’ve read all of the writers you’ve listed. How many of the Latin American writers I listed have you read?

[Anonymous No.20586316]

>>20586178
If you think Hemingway is a pastiche of machismo you didn't understand him at all

[Anonymous No.20586321]

>>20586310
>50%
Damn, you have to collapse into lying on 4chan to save face. Oh well.
>…I listed you read
All of them, in fact.

[Anonymous No.20586334]

>>20586321

[Anonymous No.20586344]

>>20586334

[Anonymous No.20586375]

>>20586181
>James Baldwin
>Langston Hughes
lmao

[Anonymous No.20586384]

>>20586073
>What was lost when those Europeans settled the North American continent that wasn’t lost while they settled South America?
But Mexico is in North America, and you mentioned Rulfo here >>20586178
Soooo...

[Anonymous No.20586665]

I like american literature. I really love it because their music is average, movies are average, but their literature and maybe some games is the only reason God haven't destroyed them yet. Their literature is a breath of fresh air.

[Anonymous No.20586870]

another one of these threads huh

[Dante Lapongo No.20586883]

>>20586189
Sabato rules. You sucker!

[Anonymous No.20586987]

>>20586073
>anti-British AND anti-American
lmao what a mongoloid
one is fair enough, but not both

[Anonymous No.20587293]

can anyone recommend any 17th or 18th century texts written by colonial era settlers or visitors? mainly those from england/britain preferably rather than anything spanish

[Anonymous No.20587403]

Thank you America for your literature. I read it all my life.

[Anonymous No.20587443]

spics can't into literature

[Anonymous No.20587857]

>>20586178
Literal whos?

[Anonymous No.20588241]

>>20586073
>arguably Melville
but he wrote the greatest book ever written

[Anonymous No.20588964]

>>20586073
>Latin-America produced so many greats
The best Latin-American story was The Old Man and the Sea by American Ernest Hemingway.

[Anonymous No.20589007]

>>20586178
>Arlt
Come on

[Anonymous No.20589795]

>>20586178
Machado is a Sterne imitator and Borges himself recognized the greatness of American literature.
Get lost.
Also, Sabato and Arlt are mediocre.

[Anonymous No.20591018]

ESL spic got BTFO

[Anonymous No.20591035]

>>20586073
how many times are you gonna make this exact thread?

[Anonymous No.20591050]

>>20586178
hehehe.

[Anonymous No.20591186]

Fuck anglos and the US, but nothing beats Clark Ashton Smith, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Robert W. Chambers and all the pulp american writers of the early 20th century.
Greetings from BSAS.
>no Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, Esteban Echeverría, Horacio Quiroga, Enrique Medina, Silvina Ocampo, Juan Rodolfo Wilcock
Get fucked.