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>We are certain that only a system of values essentially similar to the Hellenic system will be able to pull Europe out of the anarchy of values. The discovery of the Hellenic world means nothing less than the premonition of a new age, an age beyond Gothic and Enlightenment. For us, the Hellenic is not a value among others, not just something great next to the Roman, the Iranian or the Indian. Rather, our knowledge confirms the intuitive certainty of Winckelmann, Hölderlin and Nietzsche that our fate is decided in the face of Hellas.
I like this passage from Hellenophile Nazi from the 1930s, I wanted to share with you. What prescriptive actions can we take to institute Hellenic values today?

>> No.20575643

>>20575631
You can start by larping on 4channel's literature subreddit.

>> No.20575644

>>20575631
The Hellenic world was gay(literally)
The Illyrian Emperors saved Greek civilization by converting to Christianity

>> No.20575647

But Nietzsche said about the Moors that Islam was even greater than Rome or Greece. Why he said this requires some elaboration which being at work I have not the time for right now, but as a convert I can say with full certainty only Islam can save the west, a mass conversion

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>>20575644
>The Hellenic world was gay(literally)
I want to see an army of naked bodybuilders assume total control of political power. I advocate for this.

>> No.20575669

>>20575631
Only educate the wealthy and have everyone else work on farms.
The strong amongst them can be soldiers.
Meritocracies are a failed platitude.
Money and blood (birthed and shed) are the two things that will move the world toward the Hellenic virtues.

>> No.20575689

>>20575631
it's not going to happen. we're too kiked. even people who can intuit the value of greek culture become conflicted when they encounter some parts of it, like the pederasty, because the jewish prohibition of homosexuality is so deeply ingrained in them that they can't accept that a man can put his dick wherever he wants to without trembling with jewish anxiety. so they have to deny it, pretend it's just some modern misunderstanding, which will prevent them from truly engaging with the culture. that's an extreme example, but this pattern occurs all the time: people are simultaneously drawn to greek culture and repulsed by it when they realize how thoroughly incompatible greek virtue is with the christianity/kikery they grew up with, how deeply they would have to cut inside themselves to resolve the conflict.

>> No.20575724
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20575724

Christian virtue has never placed value on physical beauty, Classical Greek values did. To combat this disgusting oversight make your body attractive, without that you are just larping.

>> No.20575747

>>20575689
Pederasty only exists because in pre-modern times sex with a woman always carried a risk of pregnancy. This is no longer the case. It's comparable to prison rape actually: without other options, men stick their dick in whatever. Are prison rapists gay? It's not like they'd become aroused by other men if they weren't in jail. The sexual drive just looks for an outlet wherever it can find one.
In the modern day women take the pill or you can wear a condom and you can have sex without the risk of pregnancy. You can fulfill the same function as pederasty in ancient days without having to fuck someone who you'd otherwise not be sexually attracted to.

>> No.20575763

What are Hellenic values, and what relevance do they have to my life? I don't live in a polis.

>> No.20575770

>>20575631
It's a very German passage, reflective of an important current in German thought.

>> No.20575779

>>20575689
>>20575747
The actual jewish/christian influence is not the anti-gay stuff, which is universal amongst nearly every culture (even the Romans) but the idea that all instances of sex should lead to procreation, that is the main kernel of disagreement

>> No.20575780

>>20575724
>tattoo
Yeah some monument to beauty...

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>>20575780
I didnt make the damn thing, however the sentiment it expresses is correct.

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>>20575779
The Jewish/Christian message of shame at your human body is central to their doctrine.

>> No.20575896

>>20575870
Christianity being "anti-life" might be true when looking at the scripture/tradition through an academic lens but real life is more complicated. Two generations ago all the Catholics in my country had 9 children.
When discussing Christianity there is this huge discrepancy between what the scripture/tradition says and what self-identified adherents of the religion actually do. Then again, Casanova got it pretty much right when he said that hypocrisy is a main feature of Catholicism, and that guy knew a thing or two about (extramarital) sex while self-identifying as a Catholic his entire life.

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>>20575896
Catholic Guilt is a real thing. The disgust the Judeo-Christian tradition has for the human body is vivid in all aspects. The virgin birth is an example of this. It is barbaric. It is also why almost all of the Nazi art that celebrated health, fitness and the human body were destroyed.