Is there another poet who has managed to transform philosophy into verse?

[Anonymous No.20567097]

Dante made the rationalist theology of the philosopher St. Thomas Aquinas literature, he created the poetics of scholasticism.

Is there any other poet who has achieved something similar after him? That is, made poetry and philosophy forget their differences? It does not necessarily have to be a work as great and unrepeatable as the Divine Comedy, but at least something similar.

[Anonymous No.20567111]

>>20567097
That’s not Lucretius, OP. That’s that Dante guy. He didn’t do any such thing

[Anonymous No.20567220]

>>20567097
a ton
but the ladst one... erm last one... was T S Eliot

[Anonymous No.20567236]

>>20567097
Martianus Capella

[Anonymous No.20567241]

F Gardner

[Anonymous No.20567244]

>>20567241
this

[Anonymous No.20567246]

>>20567220
What philosophy?

[Anonymous No.20567260]

>>20567111
>Lucretius
Epicureanism is a philosophy that seeks to make therapeutic use of knowledge to make us more insensitive towards people, it is more psychology than philosophy itself; something very different from the criteria that motivated the medieval rationalist philosophy of the scholastic sign that influenced the secular thought of Dante. That's why Beatrice replaces the Epicurean Virgil in Purgatorio (who was a much better Epicurean than Lucretius himself btw).

>He didn’t do any such thing
This is either delusion, ignorance or never having read the Divine Comedy.

[Anonymous No.20567277]

>>20567246
who cares

[Anonymous No.20567294]

>>20567260
>Epicureanism is a philosophy that seeks to make therapeutic use of knowledge to make us more insensitive towards people, it is more psychology than philosophy itself;
hmm that's an interesting take... I personally researched the issue and there are only two major branches descending from Greek philosophy: stoicism (via Socrates & Zeno) and skepticism (via Democritus & Pyrrho)... the latter one splitting itself into Epicurianism on the one hand and Descartes/Kant/Husserl on the other
so what you are saying is like saying you prefer one illusion to the other
(all this, discounting Lord Jesus, of course)

[Anonymous No.20567312]

>>20567097
One thing I've realized is that all great literature is philosophy in disguise.

[Anonymous No.20567332]

>>20567312
(?)

[Anonymous No.20567353]

>>20567241
This

[Anonymous No.20567362]

>>20567260
>make us more insensitive towards people,
No.
> the medieval rationalist
Theologians
>Poem got stuff to say
Your diminishment of the best example of philosophy turned into epic poetry isn’t appropriated, LARPer

>>20567277
Oh.

[Anonymous No.20567386]

>>20567362
>Oh.
just let it wash over you
it was the ultimate conclusion of Thomas Aquinas too, and implicitly King Solomon... if it wasn't, the Second Temple wouldn't have been cursed (i.e. no Holy Spirit, according to consensus) and Jesus wouldn't have come to save us
but yeah, exploring is worth it, Sabbath is a real thing; maybe check out Meditations on the Tarot.

[Anonymous No.20567397]

>>20567332
You don't think Shakespeare was a philosopher? Lear, Macbeth and Hamlet are pessimistic plays about how corrupt and self-destructive mankind is.

[Anonymous No.20567427]

>>20567386
>Swishing hands around
>No no no, you must read the whole thing for yourself! Here, I’ll drop a fee hints to prove I know what I’m talking about!
>More extravagant hand gestures

[Anonymous No.20567463]

>>20567427
>wiggling around without hands and feet
>"i don't trust you, you have hands!"
mios dio

[Anonymous No.20567552]

>>20567241
This

[Anonymous No.20567799]

Yeah the guy he was inspired by, Boethius

[Anonymous No.20567879]

>>20567241
This.

[Anonymous No.20567934]

>>20567097
Wagner's dramas for 19th century German philosophy/Lutheranism in general.

>Wagner was to the end of his life a philosopher. All the currents of philosophical thinking that were important in his day, from Fichte's idolisation of the self to Marx's critique of the capitalist economy, and from Feuerbach's repudiation of religion to Schopenhauer's theory of the will, left traces in his dramas. There is no work of philosophy that delves so deeply into the paradoxes of erotic love as Tristan and Isolde, no work of Christian theology that matches Wagner's exploration of the Eucharist in Parsifal, and no work of political theory that uncovers the place of power and law in the human psyche with the perceptiveness of The Ring.
- Scruton

[Anonymous No.20567951]

>>20567934
Not literature. Wagner achievement was in music.

[Anonymous No.20567984]

>>20567951
people who respected and admired Wagner's poetry:
>Whitman, Baudelaire, Swinburne, Mallarme, Nietzsche, Dujardin, Yeats, Proust, Jung, Weininger, Joyce, Eliot, Wittgenstein, Schmitt, Junger, Auden, Adorno, Scruton etc.

people who didn't:
>some random anon

[Anonymous No.20568007]

>>20567984
>>20567951
>people who respected and admired Wagner's poetry: lots
>people who enjoyed Wagner's poetry: eh...

[Anonymous No.20568056]

>>20568007
All of those writers enjoyed his poetry. Even Wagner's arch nemesis Hanslick admitted that in Meistersinger the poet's natural feeling 'appears in all the glorious freshness and health of youth'.

[Anonymous No.20568282]

>>20567552

[Anonymous No.20568985]

>>20567097
Bump

[Anonymous No.20568992]

>>20567246
Not him but I was going to say that Eliot did a decent job of illustrating neoplatonism in Burnt Norton and somewhat less so in the other three Quartets. I hesitate to compare him to Dante, but I can't think of a better example.

[Anonymous No.20569006]

>>20567241
This

[Anonymous No.20569015]

i only read poetry and no philosophy, so honestly I have no idea. and no italian poetry either

[Anonymous No.20569066]

>>20567097
Goethe, obviously, weird that I am the first one to mention him.

[Anonymous No.20569208]

>>20567097
Lucretius