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Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 06:22:28 No.20563681 [Reply] [Original]

Is this the biggest cope in the history of philosophy?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 06:23:34 No.20563684 File: 39 KB, 800x450, 1231241242131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yes, and thats a good thing

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 06:25:29 No.20563689 nihilism vs absurdism discuss

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 06:37:35 No.20563731 Difficult labor is a pleasure when you're conditioned to it. I worked for six hours in 100ºF heat today and didn't want to stop. p.s. this thread isn't for niggers.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 06:41:06 No.20563743 File: 52 KB, 800x529, 94569031-C8B7-4EB1-99A9-DB84DD016642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I prefer to imagine Alison kissing Claire. >>20563731 Why the postscript?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 07:30:12 No.20563851 >>20563743 fapfapfapfap I did enjoy the Breakfast Club unironically though

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 07:52:15 No.20563886 >>20563731 >apologetics for being a slave lol

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 08:37:43 No.20563991 The Greeks were trying to cope with Sophists, Poets, Rhetoricians...

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 09:02:47 No.20564038

>>20563681
It's more of a rationalization based on the error of believing Sisyphus to represent something other than a Man being punished; if we take the Sisyphus story and put it into Western Christian theology then the Sisyphus could be translated into Adams punishment, perhaps..

In the old world this was anyway understood as the obvious idiocy of a person doing something the wrong way and refusing to change their plans. Comparable to Atlas in the story of Hercules, where Atlas isn't a noble figure but a buffoon who only believes he's holding up the world by holding a boulder.

>>20563886
true.

>>20563731
Although I feel the same way, manual work is healthy.

"why does it pain you to see me working with my hands?"
Gaius Musonius Rufus, in a chain gang

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 10:42:05 No.20564257 >>20563886 1. I work for myself on my own land 2. I SAID NO NIGGERS

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:03:44 No.20564458 >>20564257 >2. I SAID NO NIGGERS cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:13:06 No.20564494 >>20563681 Not really. Existence itself is the one true joy, and its not like his punishment is actual torture or oblivion

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:26:42 No.20564536

>>20563681
Its incredibly frustrating how many people only know this one quote and maybe a wiki article and interpolate a philosophy from it without ever reading the damn text. Its a short essay, you can finish it in a few days. please read the actual essay.

The whole essay is literally an attempt to outline every form of philosophical cope possible and avoid it. The Sisyphus parable at the end is the one possible way he sees of facing the unsolvable rift between a world refusing to be meaningful, and a consciousness refusing to be meaningless without trying to give up either of the two. The parable should not be read as submitting to meaninglessness and just going on until you are happy, the point is to continue the struggle against all odds until the struggle itself becomes meaningful.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:43:12 No.20564591 >>20563681 This isn't philosophy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:44:13 No.20564597 >>20563689 Absurdism isn’t a philosophy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:45:04 No.20564603 >>20564597 nihilism self-refutes

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:52:22 No.20564618 >>20564603 Retard

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:55:26 No.20564623 >>20564536 >interpolate Oh ho ho ho hooooo. I think you mean extrapolate, sweaty.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 12:56:32 No.20564631 >>20564536 This anon has read the book.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 13:00:57 No.20564641

>>20564623
if you take a few quotes and use them to guess the contents of the rest of the essay, i think thats interpolation. Extrapolation would be if you use those few quotes to guess what Camus would think of people saying dumb things on an anonymous image board.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 13:01:03 No.20564642 >>20564536 Yes, you said exactly the same as the quote but longer and less eloquent

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 13:06:09 No.20564656 >>20563731 Striving for greatness =/= being a wagecuck

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 13:06:15 No.20564657 >>20564642 less eloquent sure, but hopefully harder to misinterpret as 'cope'

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 13:08:23 No.20564663 >>20564657 Well, that's right, might read the essay then

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 15:01:41 No.20564977 >>20564536 >the point is to continue the struggle against all odds until the struggle itself becomes meaningful Cope

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 15:31:51 No.20565109

it's true that you tend to feel more alive, less depressed when you're occupied with manual labour. you don't have the time nor the disposition to introspect.
doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result by not doing anything, you just need to follow your conscience.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 16:27:46 No.20565287 >>20565109 >introspect This is due to the outrospection inherent in constructive and practical tasks. A valuable thing for any educated person to keep in mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 16:31:49 No.20565309 >>20563684 stupid frogposter.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 16:32:22 No.20565316 why did we invent philosophy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 16:54:28 No.20565419 sciences aren't invented, they're discovered.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:10:22 No.20565488 >>20563731 People will hate on this because they can’t differentiate work from slavery anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:11:23 No.20565490 Philosophy isn't a science.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:19:41 No.20565523 >>20563731 Pfft. I work the Mississippi fields 11 hours a day, and search for gold by night. t. Lucas Beauchamp

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:22:11 No.20565535 >>20563731 I worked 10 and I wanted to kill myself lol

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:22:56 No.20565542

>>20564038
>Atlas isn't a noble figure but a buffoon who only believes he's holding up the world by holding a boulder.
Do you have a source for this? I've never once come across this interpretation of the myth and I can't find anything similar via a cursory Googling.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:27:17 No.20565565 >>20563731 dumb plantation nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:43:50 No.20565637 >>20563681 No, materialism is.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 17:44:29 No.20565639 >>20565637 >Dualism isn't a cope for the fact that you'll die and cease to exist one day

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 18:06:21 No.20565761

>>20565542
Myths are supposed to be interpreted, anon, but sure:
It's implied that he's comical figure because Hercules tricks him with the boulder, and it's implied Atlas was only ever holding a boulder - and not the world - beause duh, Hercules and Atlas were both in the world at the time. I read it as more a comment on the false burdens that people carry around that they believe are important: self imposed hardships of no consequence.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 18:19:35 No.20565836

>>20563689
Nihilism is unfounded and demoralizing propaganda.
Absurdism is founded, in the sense that there is something such as the Absurd from an ontological point of view, not necessarily that it infects the whole rest of knowledge, but Camus was not interested enough in its metaphysical expression, and Sartre, who was, took enough wrong positions right from the start to invalidate everything else.
Husserl had already identified the Absurd as the source of all metaphysics much earlier.
> “...the irrationality of the transcendental fact that emerges in the constitution of the factual world and of spiritual life: thus, metaphysics in a new sense.”

Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 19:22:27 No.20566180

>>20564494
I'm just failing to see how oblivion should be so bad. I know an idealist could make an ontological argument that the Good subsists in Being and therefore oblivion being the furthest distance possible from the Good had ought be reviled. But don't existentialists, particularly Camus, reject such metaphysics? In what exactly does existence constitute a good in itself?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 20:14:16 No.20566420 >>20563681 This is based

× I V R I V S × !!GgBWHLRiayD Wed, Jun 22, 2022 20:35:48 No.20566536
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Unbeknownst to anyone, he is actually wearing invisible headphones, and listening to Sofia's vibe: transce.

https://soundcloud.com/user-637448757/malibu-200422#t=13:00

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 21:21:27 No.20566742 >>20565109 When i had a manual labor job i felt pretty damn motivated to get a better job because i fucking hated doing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 22:24:16 No.20566995 >>20566742 I liked my job but I realized i couldnt make a living on it. Then I decided to go to school for philosophy. Hahahahaha I am so fucked.

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>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 22:37:55 No.20567046 >>20565109 >more alive, less depressed when you're occupied with manual labour Tell that to slaves and minimum wage workers.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 22:47:54 No.20567088 >>20563681 No, that would be equality.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 22:54:23 No.20567123 >>20567088 >Chud moment Stupid bootlicker. Shouldn’t you be in Ukraine?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 22:55:40 No.20567127 >>20567123 Gosh, I didn't expect anyone to prove the point that quickly.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 22, 2022 23:17:57 No.20567235 >>20563681 >reading the French

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 00:01:21 No.20567404 >>20567127 >Opposing Naziism is “cope” Another Chud moment. You’re not good at this

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 05:01:17 No.20568550 >>20563681 the soul.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 05:11:43 No.20568602 >>20565316 We didnt

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 10:06:41 No.20569313 >>20563689 nihilism self-refutes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 10:07:16 No.20569316 >>20568602 Do you mean we discovered it? Or do you mean "we" as in people here, on this board?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 23, 2022 10:13:07 No.20569331 >>20566742 when I had one, I knew it wasn't going to be forever. but I felt really alive after work. like a natural cocaine high.

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